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Offline carinya

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I need more length
« on: June 22, 2012, 01:57:13 PM »
Hello people.
After serious thought, a few bashed knuckles and some swearing I have decided we need a longer draw bar on the CT.
There is too much gear on it for the space we have.
I want to build a new one entirely, and the old man reckons we should extend it, you know the old cut and shut.
To get away with that you'd have to run extra steel alongside, making it twice the weight, or at least stagger the join.
May as well be new all the way. Old farmers can't see the point in replacing stuff when you can bodgey it up.
Will someone here please help me explain to him why I don't want to butt weld two joins in my draw bar.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2012, 02:08:11 PM »
Because, no matter how good a welder you are - (and probably much better than me)!

In case of an accident, breakage, whatever, you dont want the body of your CT detaching from your vehicle and spearing some unsuspecting family of 6 coming the other way.

Then you dont want the ensuing legal battle/compensation claims/stress/divorce/etc.

That shoud do it!

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Re: I need more length
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2012, 02:21:22 PM »
my thoughts are that fatigue will eventually catch up with it and it will break and you will be left stranded on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere, and if it causes an accident it wouldn't be a very nice feeling knowing it could have been different.

 The other thought is wether it is illegal to do such a thing.

  I own a farm and know all about bodgeying things up where it doesn't go any faster than 40 k/hr and isn't on the main roads. if I was you I wouldn't join the draw bar for any money.

I also work with my father who suggests many options on how He thinks things should be done, you just have to go with your own peace of mind and do what you want, the old man still won't agree but at least you will have the design mod as you would like it.

 All the best

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Re: I need more length
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2012, 02:31:44 PM »
my thoughts are its your trailer get the job you want done.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2012, 03:03:45 PM »
Thanks, fellas.  Exactly what I am thinking. Just wanted something in writing, as it were.  Someone might want a cheap draw for a box trailer in town. To do all the extras on that job I will use near on the same amount of steel anyway.
It will be a while before it's done but I will put up some pics in the mods section.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 03:14:20 PM »
Because by the time you cut and patch, it is quicker and easier to build a new A frame and a length of RHS shouldn't break the bank.
Been there, done it and learnt my lesson when we had the farm.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 03:19:29 PM »
How much extra length are you looking for? For me, this would determine whether or not to build an entirely new frame or to cut the hitch off and insert 400mm of thick wall channel section (which can look very professional and allow you to alter the hitch height if necessary).

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Re: I need more length
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 03:23:05 PM »
Have a look half way down this page and you will see the extension I put in my last camper, easy and nice and strong

http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=1870.250

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Re: I need more length
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 04:02:43 PM »
i read the title and assumed the missus was unhappy. can't help with that either but was interested in the suggestions.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 04:31:13 PM »
Quote from: RosLed on June 22, 2012, 04:02:43 PM
i read the title and assumed the missus was unhappy.

x 2 *thinking it's a common issue* ... LOL!   :cup: 

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Re: I need more length
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2012, 05:31:37 PM »
Hi
Another option that mite help is a extension for the hitch

http://www.janer.com.au/hitch.html

 :cheers: sheeds
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2012, 10:24:43 PM »
No one wants to hear about my welding, hence the attention grabbing title.  I am looking for a metre more on the draw.  Between the tow hitch on the Triton being slightly under the tray, and with a big toolbox, spare wheel and stoneguard fitted, there is not much room to operate the handbrake or the swing up jockey wheel without a bit of messing about.
GG, your extension looks the goods and I think it would be the quickest but with the jockey wheel being a swing up it might not work.  Have to get on with the tape measure and see.  Still leaning toward a new A frame.  All steel in gal will only be around $260, so not an issue.

Pics of us a Marsden, the closeup shows how much space we don't have.

Thanks again for the tips.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2012, 10:27:08 PM »
Somebody had to post it

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Re: I need more length
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2012, 10:44:35 PM »
LENGTH D4D, not pressure.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2012, 05:03:53 AM »
Quote from: carinya on June 22, 2012, 10:44:35 PM
LENGTH D4D, not pressure.

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I need more length
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2012, 05:53:36 AM »
What GG has done is what I was intimating, but that's not going to work for 1 metre. Will your ramp over still be acceptable?
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2012, 09:31:37 AM »
Quote from: D4D on June 22, 2012, 10:27:08 PM
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2012, 09:59:32 AM »
Quote from: Patr80l on June 23, 2012, 09:31:37 AM
Note the warning on the package.   Not suitable for use on virgins.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Why are they film coated?  Where do you insert them?!
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2012, 10:19:24 AM »
Quote from: LJs GQ on June 23, 2012, 09:59:32 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Why are they film coated?  Where do you insert them?!

I used to sell that stuff :) The film coating stops the tablets from getting stuck in your throat & giving you a stiff neck :D
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2012, 08:33:33 PM »
Glad to hear all your thoughts on the A frame.  Also thank you for your concern regarding my undercarriage. I'm fine thank you.  Just finished this prelim plan, will go from there.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2012, 08:48:23 PM »
Sorry to drag it to the gutter Grant  >:D

The design looks very professional and much better than any cut.
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Re: I need more length
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2012, 08:55:11 PM »
Looking at the pix you provided it appears to be a bolted on drawbar anyway. i would p!ss it off and redo a drawbar from RHS. i would start the new drawbar from back close to the front spring hangers and possibly put another RHS through the middle of the trailer.

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Re: I need more length
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2012, 08:58:27 PM »
Quote from: GGPatrol on June 22, 2012, 03:23:05 PM
Have a look half way down this page and you will see the extension I put in my last camper, easy and nice and strong

http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=1870.250

GG


I have exteded draw bars on a couple of trailers in this fashion in the past and never had a problem...This extension looks awesome GG Patrol....
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