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New Cordless Drill
« Reply #50 on: May 26, 2012, 05:08:20 PM »
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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #51 on: May 26, 2012, 06:06:58 PM »
Hilti , but then again i keep my old work tools when i buy new ones (you do not get a lot for trade ins)  the worst thing for cordless tools is the fact that they do not get used enough sometimes you are better off getting a 240v tool for the infrequent  jobs  . i have also noticed that a certain manufacturer of cordless gear ,from the land of the rising sun their chargers are cooking their lithium batteries    cheers Graham
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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2012, 06:30:40 PM »
Hilti , but then again i keep my old work tools when i buy new ones (you do not get a lot for trade ins)  the worst thing for cordless tools is the fact that they do not get used enough sometimes you are better off getting a 240v tool for the infrequent  jobs  . i have also noticed that a certain manufacturer of cordless gear ,from the land of the rising sun their chargers are cooking their lithium batteries    cheers Graham

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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2012, 11:23:05 PM »
Hi Wayne
I have a 28 volt Milwaukee, both drill and angle grinder (cordless), came with bag, charger and two batteries.  Not cheap but well worth the buy.
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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #57 on: May 27, 2012, 08:21:38 AM »
Hi Wayne
I have a 28 volt Milwaukee, both drill and angle grinder (cordless), came with bag, charger and two batteries.  Not cheap but well worth the buy.
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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #58 on: May 28, 2012, 09:38:02 PM »
Just bought a makita set as its there platinum special at the moment. 18v cordless hammer drill and impact driver with 3 3amp batteries for 499.  8)
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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #59 on: May 29, 2012, 02:55:57 PM »
Looked at the Panasonics yesterday, hmmmm maybe them instead of Milwaukee.
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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #60 on: May 29, 2012, 03:02:24 PM »
Looked at the Panasonics yesterday, hmmmm maybe them instead of Milwaukee.
A mate of mine has some Panasonic gear. Rates it very highly. Not the most common choice, but IMHO certainly a good option.

My brother has some Milwaukee gear, and loves it. Long story short, I don't think you can go wrong. So long as the system includes the tools you want, I don't think you can make a bad choice.

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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #61 on: May 29, 2012, 06:23:21 PM »
A mate of mine has some Panasonic gear. Rates it very highly. Not the most common choice, but IMHO certainly a good option.

My brother has some Milwaukee gear, and loves it. Long story short, I don't think you can go wrong. So long as the system includes the tools you want, I don't think you can make a bad choice.

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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #62 on: May 29, 2012, 11:44:10 PM »
I can't belive there's not more Panasonic users. Before dewalt and Milwaukee got big here all the sparkies used panasonics. I bought a 15.6 v one in 98 and it's still going strong. I have had the batteries repacked ($80 ) about every 3-4 yrs. would buy another tomorrow if it died on the stregth of this one.
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« Reply #63 on: May 30, 2012, 08:51:02 PM »
I supervise 9 repair techs (Door industry) and over the last 10 years the best lasting tools are 1: DEWALT
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« Reply #64 on: May 30, 2012, 10:29:04 PM »
I can't belive there's not more Panasonic users. Before dewalt and Milwaukee got big here all the sparkies used panasonics. I bought a 15.6 v one in 98 and it's still going strong. I have had the batteries repacked ($80 ) about every 3-4 yrs. would buy another tomorrow if it died on the stregth of this one.

I had one of the 15.6v ones too.  in 8 years it did 2 chucks, 3 triggers and 1 motor (motor under warranty), but the two original batteries lasted the entire time.  Panasonic brain everyone else when it comes to battery and charger technology, even Festool get Panasonic (or at least used to) to supply the cells and chargers for their cordless drills.
The newer 14.4v Lithium Panasonics are still pretty popular with Joiners.  Resonable power, light and well balanced, but the lack of other tools in the range is their downfall.

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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2012, 12:01:02 AM »
Hilti are the best in the business but really only if you're making a living from cordless tools. Nicads, while heavy are the most forgiving and longest lived(economic) but you cannot leave them uncharged or they'll crystallise and die. You also have to run them right up and down. Hence pointless for the handyman as are NiMh batteries whose only benefit is no memory effect. That leaves lithiums and you get what you pay for. The trade needs fast charge and plateau performance - ie. drills the same and then dies within a couple of screws which means expensive battery technology. The handyman can overlook that for cheapness(long charge times and tapering performance) but I'd advise buying the maker's torch so you can use the batteries more regularly at home and monitor their charge occasionally as lithiums need to stay at least 40% charged. Don't whatever you do overheat lithiums (eg in the car in direct sun) or they're dead and always try to charge and keep them in the shade. Unlike Nickel based batteries they can be topped off as much as you like but remember ALL rechargeables self- discharge on the shelf so in a month or two they'll be flat and left like that they'll die on you.   
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« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 AM »
I said all rechargeables self-discharge but if you're into AA and AAA rechargeables then Eneloops are the go-
http://www.sanyo.com.au/gaia/eneloop
but that functionality is not available in cordless tool batteries unfortunately for the handyman. Nevertheless Panasonic and Sanyo make the best batteries (and probably supply Hilti) so you should always ask for them in repacks. Handyman stuff is never worth repacking cf a new drill and batteries. Like mobile phones- So many working drills and so few good batteries.
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« Reply #67 on: May 31, 2012, 01:09:46 AM »
I had one of the 15.6v ones too.  in 8 years it did 2 chucks, 3 triggers and 1 motor (motor under warranty), but the two original batteries lasted the entire time. 

That's the difference with Hilti. The batteries last and so do the triggers, clutches, motors and chucks and you can hammer in nails with their plastic. Trust me, bite the bullet next time and buy the Hilti 14.4V drill and impact driver and you'll never go back to anything else. The lad's a sparky and also uses the soft start 36V  TE7A rotary hammer with click on SDS and standard chuck (chizel, masonary drilling and click on the chuck with auger bit for timber stud drilling) Over 2 grands worth but with 2 yr commercial warranty and it's working all day long. You can't beat the clutches on Hiltis so forget 18v stuff for normal drilling and screwing and stick with their 14.4V workhorses.
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« Reply #68 on: May 31, 2012, 01:23:48 AM »
One important tip for the uninitiated and it will surprise you how many tradies don't know about it. When driving in screws ALWAYS use the appropriate clutch setting for screws and not the drill setting which is strictly for drilling and if the clutch is not up to it then it's a toy drill.
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« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2012, 06:10:29 PM »
When I bought a Festool Sander twelve months ago I was so impressed I said I would buy a Festool 18v.cordless when my metabo bit the dust. I now have a Festool 18V. with all the attachments and it is a joy to use.

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« Reply #70 on: June 01, 2012, 06:44:28 PM »
One important tip for the uninitiated and it will surprise you how many tradies don't know about it. When driving in screws ALWAYS use the appropriate clutch setting for screws and not the drill setting which is strictly for drilling and if the clutch is not up to it then it's a toy drill.



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« Reply #71 on: June 01, 2012, 08:20:43 PM »
Just a tip if you've got an old 7.2V or 9.6V drill lying around with no batteries, they'll work fine on 12V if you want to wire them up to use them on your stabiliser legs, etc. Continual use at 12V would overheat them but casual use doesn't worry them at all as a mate discovered wiring up a few old Makitas for the hippy solar crowd.
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« Reply #72 on: June 02, 2012, 05:50:24 PM »
I have had a 14 volt Bosch cordless for a number of years but it is really starting to show its age.  But the other day my family gave me a Makita 18 volt drill and impact driver kit for my birthday!  ;D  My god what a difference.  Just to give it a run I drilled a half inch hole in a piece of ½ inch steel and it did it with ease.  And never having owned a impact driver before, what a fantastic tool they are.
Plus Makita have a promotion at the moment where you can redeem, via their web site, another battery.  That will give me three.  Gotta love that.  :cheers:
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Re: New Cordless Drill
« Reply #73 on: June 02, 2012, 08:47:58 PM »
I'm going to do a mod to a couple of 12 V  drills that have dead batt packs...

Whack an anderson plug on them and use them when camping....main use will be to wind down stabilisers on the van


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   met a chap who had done that on a Mitsubishi truck, except he used to pick up garage sale drills for a few dollars as they either didn't have a battery or the battery was dead.
Apparently they don't have to be exactly 12V to do the job either.


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« Reply #74 on: June 03, 2012, 08:27:07 AM »
I recently purchased a Dewalt battery hammer/drill.
Dewalt were doing a trade in offer. They gave me $50 for every drill and $20 for every battery and $20 for a charger.
Shed clean out time - I traded in 2 drills / 2 chargers and 5 batteries.($240 credit)
Great deal - the original price of the Dewalt drill was $400 but only cost me $160 and I got a third free battery thrown in as well.
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