Hi Lift Jack - Do I really need one?????

[Dueller]

Try this link:

http://www.proquip.com.au/ProductPages/SafeJack/14110.html

Cheers

[BigJules]

Gee that's nice isn't it


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[Roo]

I think using dynamite would be safer than a hi lift for any of those...

whilst dynamite is a ridiculous statement, the use of a hi-lift to raise a vehicle and remove and replace a tyre is  not and is no less safe than the original jack when done with appropriate precaution and tools. Any other work done under vehicle is performed with chassis stands in place so again, no issue. Next time you pull out the original jack, have a look at where and how it locates in its lifting position....it isn't a very big top on the jack, it has a small indent to sort of conform to the rear axle housing but as the vehicle lifts the contact point moves in an arc and so does the contact point. This has slipped in the past for me so I'm not keen to use it again.
At the front of a 100 series cruiser (IFS) the factory lifting point is on the front crossmember. With a nominal 50mm suspension lift and 285 tyres the standard jack won't lift the tyres off the ground anymore. Solution, hi-lift into located slots in bulbar....simples and perfectly safe to work under if you have the means to provide secondary support.


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[shanegtr]

I have not used mine in a couple years.
But I know deep down in my heart that the trip I do not take it on is the time I will need it.
Better to have it and not need it than to need it and have it sitting at home in the shed.
It has its rightful place on Nav, therefore I take it on all my offroad trips...
Bill and Morag

I agree. I've used mine several times, but not for a few years. Ive only used it for solo recoveries and as that's they way we normally travel its handy to have just in case. 

[Dueller]

Gee that's nice isn't it


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I've found it very handy. Saves having to pack the bottom of your bottle jack to get more height, spreads the ram head load evenly under the car and has more than enough reach to lift and change 33" tyres on the tug. It breaks down and packs away in the back of my rear draws with the rest of the recovery gear.

[nic0]

I have one, it usually stays at home when i go out 4wding, the only time i have used it is to pull some large tree roots out of the ground so i could put in a veggie patch.

[Bird]

Try this link:

http://www.proquip.com.au/ProductPages/SafeJack/14110.html

Cheers

http://safejacks.com/collections/frontpage/products/safe-jack-bottle-jack-recovery-kit-with-bottle-jack $230??? is that Yen?

[Champin]

Never realy trusted high lift jacks due to their stability problems, but in saying that, any jack is unstable on uneven ground. Had a flat the other day with my Toyo AT aquaplanes and only just got it up high enough with bottle jack . Thinking of chucking in the trolley jack so I can jack under wish bone stead of lifting the whole suspension. Like the idea of the baae plate tied to the jack in the video though. Gives me ideas. As an old boss said to me one day...no use making thing idiot proof....cause idiots are soo damn ingenious.
  Oh and whilst dynamite may be useless for lifting a forbee, det cord makes a hell of a bead breaker.

[Symon]

I think using dynamite would be safer than a hi lift for any of those...

Like any other tool, if you misuse it, it can become dangerous.

I always carry two jacks, the factory bottle jack, and the hi-lift.  The bottle jack is only useful for changing tyres, the hi-lift is much more versatile.  I've used it as a hand winch to get me out of a bog, as a clamp to re-assemble a leaf spring pack, and as a press to straighten out my sidesteps after they got bent up.  Occasionally I even use it to change a tyre.

[doc evil]

Like any other tool, if you misuse it, it can become dangerous.

I always carry two jacks, the factory bottle jack, and the hi-lift.  The bottle jack is only useful for changing tyres, the hi-lift is much more versatile.  I've used it as a hand winch to get me out of a bog, as a clamp to re-assemble a leaf spring pack, and as a press to straighten out my sidesteps after they got bent up.  Occasionally I even use it to change a tyre.

finally some common sense.......
carrying 2 jacks especially if remote is the norm. If it falls of one, you have the other to rescue you. Otherwise, it could be a loooooong wait..........

I  have a large bottle jack (works under the axle) and an exhaust bag.

[GeoffA]

finally some common sense.......

...look who posted it...no surprise there...

 

[wakychapmans]

http://safejacks.com/collections/frontpage/products/safe-jack-bottle-jack-recovery-kit-with-bottle-jack $230??? is that Yen?

nope that there is US dollars.

yep - US$230 = around AUD$335

(which is still considerably cheaper than the AUD$375 being quoted locally for the kit only... no jack itself)

[shanegtr]

Never realy trusted high lift jacks due to their stability problems

One of the most handy features of them when getting out of a bog. A couple of times I've used the hi-lift to jack up and then push the car sideways out of the bogged location

[gclan]

Yes they can be unstable, but we never go anywhere without it. Had to rely on it too many times now when offroad or remote touring. Mainly for changing tyres.

[Troopy_03]

Try this link:

http://www.proquip.com.au/ProductPages/SafeJack/14110.html

Cheers

That looks like a handy project.

[Ben.Archer]

That looks like a handy project.

Exactly what I was thinking - a few steel offcuts for the base plate and then down to the local yacht rigging shop for the wire.....

[Bird]

I still see the biggest issue with most bottle jacks is the base size - even if you sit it on a massive hunk of steel, the physical base size doesn't make the unit stable when extended..

[jk]

I made a small mod ( used a die grinder to remove a small amount of the molding ) to our plastic Hilift Jack base plate and now it also fits our 12t bottle jack as well at the Hilift Jack, made it a lot more stable/safe   

The support plate also gives you a bit more height if it's needed  !!!!

Cheers
John K

[Bird]

I made a small mod ( used a die grinder to remove a small amount of the molding ) to our plastic Hilift Jack base plate and now it also fits our 12t bottle jack as well at the Hilift Jack, made it a lot more stable/safe   

Cheers
John K

few of those on ebay..

theres also this... I'd give him $25 for it...
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/281803147885/


handy in a carry case
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171960602964

[#jonesy]

Exactly what I was thinking - a few steel offcuts for the base plate and then down to the local yacht rigging shop for the wire.....

What's the wire for?


Roadside also make a set and baseplate( link above in other post  to the plate)

[Troopy_03]

Exactly what I was thinking - a few steel offcuts for the base plate and then down to the local yacht rigging shop for the wire.....

already got some 8mm staino and swages 

[Troopy_03]

What's the wire for?


Roadside also make a set and baseplate( link above in other post  to the plate)

The wire is to give the jack lateral stability, it braces the upright to the base plate on either side ... Like on a tower crane where they have a cable behind the tower pinned to the base and at the top of the tower. Is it tower or mast??? anyway, you know what I mean...

[GeoffA]

.....12t bottle jack......

You don't muck about, do you jk....

[Mandrake]

I rather like this one --
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AIR-MANUAL-20-TON-HYDRAULIC-BOTTLE-JACK-TROLLEY-JACK-TRUCK-AIR-BOTTLE-NEW-JAC-/111288198255

[jk]

You don't muck about, do you jk....

A great man once said '' if it's worth doing then it's worth over doing'', and I couldn't agree more