Getting out of bogs

[Tjupurula]

Hi Swaggers
I have been through a lot of the previous threads and have found little about bogs, and getting out of them.
I know that many people here would have been in bogs, and even without photos would have conjured up some interesting methods of getting out of the bogs, reckon it would make for some interesting stories and memories.
I am a part time grader operator (full time boily), so I have had to pull a few people out on the Tanami, my first couple of attempts involved pulling bull bars off vehicles (luckily the owners put the chains and straps on).
Just a thread out of curiousity.
Regards
Tjupurula

[speewa158]

This could be bigger than Ben Hur .
I have extracted myself from bogs with a Hi lift jack & Turfor & chain , wire straiger style pull . Slow process but as l didnt have anywhere else to go fill in the arvo . When bogged the 1st thing out of the truck should be the kettle . Might as well make a cuppa , your going to be here a while .

[Tjupurula]

Hi Speewa
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a Turfor?
Regards
Tjupurula

[bobnrob]

Turfor?
Usually found in your favourite supermarket...turfor the price of one! 

Or...something like these

    

[BigJules]

Tirfor

[jwb]

Hi Speewa
Pardon my ignorance, but what is a Turfor?
Regards
Tjupurula

You will soon learn  how to translate 'Speewa'
:-)
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[noel_w]

You will soon learn  how to translate 'Speewa'
:-)

I'm still working on it!!!!   

[Pipeliner]

"Bogged" is a generic term relating to getting stuck in either mud or sand, and the methods of getting out will vary depending on the actual ground conditions, but there are some basic rules.

• Don't spin the wheels! All that does is dig you in deeper, and once the chassis comes in contact with the ground you are not going to drive out.
  
• Try driving the vehicle very gently backwards and forwards, stopping as soon as the resistance is felt.  This will compact the ground under the wheels and (hopefully) make a long enough firm surface for you to get sufficient momentum to drive out
  
• Dig out under and in front of each wheel and find something reasonably long and rigid (no, not that!) to jam under the wheels to provide a roadway out.  Maxtraks are best, but in the past I've used rocks, branches, and once a bunch of star droppers I had in the back of a ute.
  
• If the chassis is touching the ground you will either have to dig out under the vehicle or jack it up and place rocks, boards, whatever under the wheels.  Make sure you have a good solid baseplate to spread the jack load, otherwise all you will do is drive the jack into the ground.  Exhaust jacks are ideal for this - in fact it's the only time they should be used.
  
• If you have a winch, then an anchor can be made by burying your spare wheel.

Above all, don't panic.  Just think about all the options available to you.  Hopefully no-one on this forum would ever get themselves into such a situation without having the basic recovery gear with them - for bogged situations the shovel is the first thing you should be going for.

[BigJules]

I think Pipeliner has just about covered it.

As a boy, with my father, in a G60 we got stuck a few times with nothing but the jack. Only once were we stranded for a night, in soft loamy soil south of Warwick.

Tyre pressure! As soon as you're not going anywhere and before you dig too deep, let some air out of the tyres. If that doesn't work, let more out. Just a few weeks ago we were down the back paddock with a old 2wd HiLux ute and trailer and got stuck. It was so wet the things was just spinning on the grass. I was too lazy to the walk the 500m back to the Cruiser so we let the back tyres down and span the wheels on the way out. Next trip,  , same thing but this time I let even more air out and there was no wheel spin.

[Bird]

Sometimes a winch is all it takes. You can have your tirfor... Been there done that, bought electric winch the very next day.

[Blinky Bill]

Tjupurula - That "pulling bull bars off vehicles" quote had me remembering a doco I saw 'The bare foot snake man' or some such name. The guy himself was an interesting enough bloke who seemed to like catching poisonous snakes for some strange reason.

Anyway there he was bogged in his yellow Hilux 4x4 & his mate hooked a chain up to his bull bar to help pull him out. Well off came the bull bar & off he went too. He was as angry as a bull ant and it was all there for us on video. 

I fell off the couch laughing.       But then made a mental note 'always hook up to correct recovery points & never the bull bar'. 

And you can keep your Tirfors too. Man alive they are the slowest most painful things I ever used. They do work though. Eventually.

Cheers - Wayne

[fishfinder]

i use a ciggicost

[Manjimike]

Man alive they are the slowest most painful things I ever used. They do work though. Eventually.
Cheers - Wayne

Lot faster than a hi-lift jack tho', and even they do work. Very eventually.

 
Mike

[Maîneÿ . . .]

i use a ciggicost

what does a ciggicost ??

 

Back on track......

I got the Ssangyong bogged (forward velocity terminated temporarily)  last week on a local beach I've driven on various times previously with no problems, had a shovel, cleared out the bulk of sand behind the tires and drove out backwards 

Watched as a VW 4WD got into the exact same predicament right beside me, it made me feel happier 

[Kimberley Mob]

I don't get bogged
I just failed to proceed!!!

[bullfrog]

Yep, between Pipeliner & Big jules the basics are covered. Your biggest asset is between your ears. Use it. Stop, look, think. The old story of boiling the billy & having a cuppa is not as silly as it sounds. It just means  slow down & see how much $hit you're  in & weighing up what you have & what you can do. Sadly,this may mean getting stuck a few times to learn the tricks of the trade.

[Northy]

Jeez when I was growing up with the old man we were up hill and down dale long before anything fancy like snatch ropes were invented, only thing we carried for recovery gear was a shovel and jack and half the time we were in a 2wd holden ute with the tyres down and rarely had problems.

When we did it was shovel out, drive the car back and forth and try to jam anything available to get traction under the wheels.  Maxitracks seem great but they are $$ and take up a fair bit of room to carry with no other purpose. 
Best thing I have seen for this is carpet squares or heavy duty rubber mats - use them when camping but also great to shove under the wheels.

[Squalo]

I am a part time grader operator (full time boily), so I have had to pull a few people out on the Tanami, my first couple of attempts involved pulling bull bars off vehicles (luckily the owners put the chains and straps on).

Here's one someone made earlier (language warning! no volume if you play it at work)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhqfrMJoa9k&feature=youtu.bet
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[duggie]

Firstly the best way to get out of a bog is not to get bogged . If you can go around it, do so. Secondly, engage you hubs. I don,t know how many times I have seen people either bogged or get bogged simply because they have not engaged their hubs. I drive all dirt roads and bush tracks in high four, if needed low four, but I will always have the hubs engaged and the leaver in the 4x4 position.Happy four wheel driving, and remember it is called four wheel driving because you are in four wheel drive.
cheers duggie

[Tjupurula]

Hi Squalo
Yep, that was a bull bar coming off, though I have never quite managed to do it that dramatically.  Great video, thanks for the laugh.
Regards
Tjupurula

[Tjupurula]

Firstly the best way to get out of a bog is not to get bogged . If you can go around it, do so. Secondly, engage you hubs. I don,t know how many times I have seen people either bogged or get bogged simply because they have not engaged their hubs. I drive all dirt roads and bush tracks in high four, if needed low four, but I will always have the hubs engaged and the leaver in the 4x4 position.Happy four wheel driving, and remember it is called four wheel driving because you are in four wheel drive.
cheers duggie

Hi Duggie
Out here during the wet we all keep our hubs locked in, and normally drive in high 4, but even in low 4, people frequently get bogged.  It is just how it happens, no matter what sometimes.  I have walked through a local creek to check, and walked all around in the water, thought it was okay, and two days later dug the car out.
Regards
Tjupurula

[just startin]

Hey guy's there's nothing wrong with a Tirfor (or like) WHATS the hurry, you get out when you get out.. Some people seem to be afraid of a little work.
 Used 1 at work to pull a 5T machine 100+ mtr on skids, just 2 of us in 8hrs. You do need a case of beer though!!!!

[duggie]

Hi Duggie
Out here during the wet we all keep our hubs locked in, and normally drive in high 4, but even in low 4, people frequently get bogged.  It is just how it happens, no matter what sometimes.  I have walked through a local creek to check, and walked all around in the water, thought it was okay, and two days later dug the car out.
Regards
Tjupurula

Hi Tjupurula,
Sounds to me that you have been doing the offroad thing for quite some time, I was not referring to the guys/girls who have been around this thing for a long time but to the weekend warrior . But in saying that some of the people who I have helped should have known better

[Dogsbreakfast]

Highlift jack can be rigged up to act as a tirfor too if no/busted winch

[Tjupurula]

Hi Duggie
You could be right, the closest bitumen to us is about 300 km's away.  My car has 198k+ on the clock, and less than 10k of that is bitumen, mind you, I have been through plenty of bearings and seals, a couple of sets of wishbones and CV's, new tie rods and a few other bits and pieces here and there.
The last time I got bogged I had to use long planks beside the car, a high lift into the tyre rims, and lift out then other planks in under the wheels, all in all about 4 hours and I was out.  I thought I knew the road, I did not know that someone else had dug themselves out and not filled the hole in.
Regards
Tjupurula