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Fraser island
« on: February 06, 2012, 09:18:04 AM »
Hi all,
We are off to Fraser Island mid April and I wanted to ask a couple of questions. Do you need sand flags on Fraser? And are there places to fill a CT with fresh water on the Island or at Inskip Point before arriving? Oh and one more question. How do people go charging camera batteries when they are not 12 volt? Maybe I might have to buy another one which would make it three batteries all up. I can't bare the thought of not being able to take photos, I tend to act like the paparazzi and take as many as I can and of everything possible. Thanks everyone in advance for your thoughts.
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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2012, 09:28:27 AM »
Hi guys,

Sand flags aren't generally used on Fraser Island, there's no need to travel over the dunes as a rule.

There are water taps on the side of the road as you leave Rainbow Beach, just turn left near the hotel, if you turn left before then you will miss the taps.  We've always used the fresh water in the creeks on Fraser if needed.

I use an inverter for 240volt power on low power items.

It's always easer if you travel a few hours either side of low tide.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2012, 09:59:35 AM »
We also use a inverter. We got ours from Dick Smith store for $45, 150 watt which is heaps for us.
No flags needed on Fraser.
Heaps of fresh water on the island.  If you have a 12 v pump you can just fill up your tank straight from the creek, or use a bucket.
Don't forget to lower your tyre pressure on your vehicle and camper.
Watch the tides when getting off the ferry.  The Manta Ray Barge is a locally owned company and we usually like to support them.
Wish we could join you.  It is a perfect place.









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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2012, 11:17:38 AM »
You can go into Dundabara campground (between Cathedral and Indian Head) and use the toilet/shower facilities, you can also get fresh water from the taps there so all you'd need is a hose and fittings.

Not sure whether you can do this at other campgrounds on the Island.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 11:53:42 AM »
All good advice, after several trips to Fraser we've never seen a sand flag. As has been said there is water roadside at Rainbow Beach which is pretty popular. If you're filling up tanks from a creek make sure you source it from us far up stream as possible ;D ;D ;D ;D, we usually fill jerries from the top of Eli.

Your in for an awesome trip, by the way good camper choice and  your location ain't to shabby either :cup:

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 03:23:22 PM »
No sand flag required but a good tip if you are camping along the beach maybe a flag at the entry to the campsite just to mark it.  (We drove past our campsite once or twice after day tripping hehe)

There are a number of camp grounds with showers toilets along the east beach. You have the two big resorts on the island to. The water in the creeks is ok but not spring feed.  Id carry some tablets to drop in the water tanks if there hasnt been any rain fall recently to keep the water free.  Thats just me but.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2012, 04:46:08 PM »
The best creeks are the small ones you see bubbling up out of the sand.  Dig a hole for some fresh water filtered through the sand dunes above. 

On the big creeks like Eli you stand there thinking has that big bearded bikie bloke wallowing in the shallows been out for a piss yet.

Mind you I've drunk everything imaginable from all over the country and never been sick so I might not be the best judge.  But if you are a little delicate in the stomach throw the tablets in.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2012, 11:20:16 PM »
for fresh water we just go to Cathedrals shops and use the tap beside the petrol bowsers, there is a donation tin there you drop a gold coin in for use of the sand spear.
as mentioned alread, no sand flag required as you can't drive over the big dunes that are on the island,  but a dune marker isn't a bad idea to help find your campsite easier.

 
  The Manta Ray Barge is a locally owned company and we usually like to support them.
there is no other barge company at Inskip anymore, Manta Ray bought out the Kingfisher barges and only run their own 2 barges there now.
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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 02:03:06 AM »
I'll be over Fraser on the 20th of this month for a week so I'll do a trip report then and let you know the conditions
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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 06:49:40 AM »
The shop at Orchid Beach also has a tap for water. Never found it to be a problem. Enjoy, a great place.  :cup:
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 08:17:50 AM »
Last time we were there (Sept 2010) there was fresh water on tap just off the beach near the ranger station just north of Eurong.  Fraser is a magic place.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 10:39:29 AM »
I'll be over Fraser on the 20th of this month for a week so I'll do a trip report then and let you know the conditions

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2012, 08:05:07 PM »
I'll be over Fraser on the 20th of this month for a week so I'll do a trip report then and let you know the conditions

Can't wait to see what you have to say. April can't come soon enough though we have plenty of work to do before then. Planning longish trips, even for a brief three weeks, takes some work.

Thanks everyone for your advice, especially the inverter stuff for my camera battery. Certainly knocking a few chores off my to-do list with your responses.

Hey disco teddy, love my camper and my town, wish we had some more Summer though.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2012, 09:52:16 PM »
Tides look good and most of the bigger highs are at night. April/May tends to dry out a bit so be prepared for softer sand and chewed up cuttings if it hasn't rained for a while. I did a quick weekend run up last weekend and it was all good and reasonably hard.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 04:44:27 PM »
Well, it's 7 weeks and 2 days to go. Can't believe it and still so much to do. Just had to put the countdown on.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2012, 08:17:03 PM »
Hey Louise,

Make sure you keep us updated on how the Fraser Prep is going. It may remind me of something I've forgotten getting ready for our turn in October. How good are these Canberra summers, most mornings the heater gets a run on the trip to work. We've only been here since Oct 2011, surely this is unusual?


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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2012, 08:58:07 PM »
Hey fellow MySwaggers,

I was there last week for work at Happy Valley, the resort at Happy Valley is partially open only the shop section so far.
Track from Kingfisher to the Lake McKenzie turn off is like powder, this section is right in the middle where the fire came thru in november last year and its like the track has never seen the sun before. Beach conditions were pretty good even with the king tides.

The march flies were the worst I have seen  >:( >:(, we usually use bushmans, but found good old aeroguard way better.

Enjoy your trip when you go

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2012, 09:31:30 PM »
Hi disco teddy,

This is definitely unusual weather and I can tell you I'm not happy about it either. Winter is always so long here and to not have a hot summer is a killer as winter will soon be here again if not now. Usually aim for heater on ANZAC day. We had a 2 night trip to Buckrnderra fishing first week of Feb and nearly froze. Apparently 11 degrees in Cooma. Lucky I packed a beanie on the off chance. Still had 4 layers of clothes on though to fish. Don't fret, hopefully next summer will be hotter (usually it!s stinking hot in the high 30's).

Planning for Fraser so far has involved a lot of questions that come to me popping on this site. Have started planning the menu as need to be organized to get meat cryovaced at local butcher. He needs order a week in advance. Started building a drawer for camper that will have 2 drawers at one end where the food will live. Protection from dingoes. Bought a GMAT at 4wd show in Queanbeyan to reduce the sand load. Bought some solar panels there too. Have a battery in camper but unable to fit a spare in the engine bay of the model Prado we have. If we get time there are plans for a duel battery system in the camper or we have a second battery and just carry it separate. All permits will need booking shortly and have a list ready to go for that. Booked Frasers at Cathedral a few months back. Planning on 5 nights there to protect gear from thieves whilst we trip around the Island each day. Will spend last 2 nights beach camping and just plan to fish so can keep an eye on things. Going to do the Mantaray barge as recommended by many on here. Plan on staying at Inskip Point the night before so there's another permit. Bought a Korr lighting kit to add more light in camper as we are doing unpowered. Still planning trip up and trip back. Have a bit over a week on the way up and a week coming back. That's it so far, but will keep you updated.

Thanks Maca76 for your advice. Always handy to have as much as possible. First trip for us to Fraser so any info is precious.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2012, 09:52:40 PM »
Hey McAbouts,

Instead of staying at Inskip why don't you hit the beach at Noosa and stay either on the beach or at freshwater. You can then go through the freshwater track to Rainbow Beach and then onto Fraser. Gives you a little bit of sand driving time and confidence before you drive straight off the bitumen and onto the sand at Inskip and Fraser.

It's a much nicer drive than Noosa Gympie Rainbow.

Just goog le Noosa North Shore and you will get a fair bit of info.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #19 on: February 16, 2012, 06:29:59 AM »
Never had a problem with thieves last October when we were there. We beach camped the whole trip and did plenty of day trips. The barges are now owned by the same company so you have no choice there. We did lock our food and fridge up for the Dingos but never found them to be a problem. They came through camp on dark but kept their distance. The rangers did tell us not to keep food in the canvas part of the camper as they would rip their way in. A great place so enjoy.  :cheers:
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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2012, 03:45:08 PM »
Hey McAbouts,

Just checked when you are going and we will be there at the same time. We will be at Ochid beach working/fishing from the 16th of April for a week. Might see you around.

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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2012, 08:29:57 PM »
Hey myswaggers ,
We got back from fraser yesterday , we went across on the Manta Ray via Inskip point , you have only got about a 2 hour window either side of low tide to get around the trees at hook point if you want to drive up the beach , we camped at Dundubara campground ( which is fenced ) due to having our grandkids with us for 6 days - hot & cold $1 coin showers, dish washing facilities , water taps ( take your own hose & fittings ) , I used our solar panels to charge our camper batteries , I had a few issues with charging due to the shady trees in the campground  but i got about 4-5 hours charging the batteries per day , and as maca76 said the march flies were bad - some were as big as a stubby top - we started out with bushmans first then went to aerogaurd which way alot better , we did all the tourist stuff ie : eli creek , lake mackenzie , maheno wreck , champayne pools etc etc , we did about 1500 k's during our stay , the only track that was very dry was as maca said from lake mackenzie to kingfisher bay resort but nothing to hard that you'll get bogged (we used 2nd gear high range ) - try to avoid buying desiel over there as it's $2.05/litre at Eurong store & $2.10/litre at Cathedral store , I topped up both tanks on my patrol at Rainbow beach $ 1.55/litre and had 2 x 20 litre jerry cans which saw us through untill we got back to rainbow beach
hope this gives you some information which helps
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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2012, 10:42:45 PM »
you have only got about a 2 hour window either side of low tide to get around the trees at hook point if you want to drive up the beach ,

This is some of the best advice you'll get. Our coast line has been smashed over the last 12-18 months. Beach travel is still good, but sucks in some spots.

My advice would be, seeing as though you're travelling a long way, and need to do it again to get home, avoid the beach run from Noosa through Double Island Point to Rainbow Beach. The beach has been smashed lately, and there's a very good chance, that you'll get 80% of the way, then be forced to turn around and head through Freshwater Track. It's an easy drive, plenty to see and such, but if you've driven that far, skip it, stick to the bitumen and save your self a lot of wasted time, and follow the signs off the hwy to Rainbow Beach.

If you get to Inskip Point outside of a few hours of a big low tide, I'd suggest using the inside track on Fraser. It's rough as guts, but will bypass the most of the vehicle claiming area of Fraser Is, Hook Point. But in saying that, Hook Point is very negotiable. You may end up with salt water up to the sill of your vehicle, and you may not. But, if I'm a couple of hours outside of a big low tide, I avoid it. You can always run through Hook Point on your return.

When travelling the inland tracks of Fraser, always sit up the bum of a tour bus. There's heaps of them, so you wont find it a hassle to follow one. The tracks are single vehicle, with who ever gives way first, does so. 95% of the vehicles give way to the buses, so follow closely to them, as their power of the road, becomes yours as a tailgater.

Don't be terrified of dingos. I have been bitten by a few dogs, but never a dingo. Be aware of dingos, but not terrified of them.

Be aware of what the barge operators tell you. They'll tell what their mood depicts. Many times I hear "Old mate on the barge said such and such". He has a 12 hour a day job, dealing with tourists, back packers, rain, intense QLD sun and LOTS of stupid people. He'll tell you what ever the hell he feels like at the time, and smile convincingly. The ladies selling the ice though, they're good chicks, and won't tell you crap. If you need condition reports etc, these are the chicks to talk too.

Commercial fisherman are like barge operators, ie cranky, but their Missus' are usually great. Take advice from them, not the cranky old men.

Fraser Island is spectacular. Beach travel is too easy, no hills, no lights etc, but it changes from day to day. The internet report you may read when you leave home, may well be irrelevant when you get there. Be smart, be sensible and drive back home once you have finished this spectacular island. Don't become another photo on the wall of Rainbow Beach Hotel. For every hairy beach negotiation, there's an inland track. If it doesn't feel right, go inland.

Once you've seen Fraser, go home the scenic route, if the weather and tides permit. You'll see not much more than you've already seen on the island. You'll see some coloured sand, but I reckon you'll be sick to death of sand by that time.....

Fraser is one of the coolest places on this country. You'll love it I'm sure, BUT PLEASE don't rely on conditions reports from the net or the QLD Parks Rangers. PLEASE talk to the locals, especially their wives, they won't lie to you. Cranky old men will tell whatever the hell they feel like at the time.

It is a beautiful place. If you use common sense, listen to locals (not cranky old men), you'll have a ball. Remember this is Queensland, beautiful one day, cyclonic the next.

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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2012, 10:56:04 AM »
When travelling the inland tracks of Fraser, always sit up the bum of a tour bus. There's heaps of them, so you wont find it a hassle to follow one. The tracks are single vehicle, with who ever gives way first, does so. 95% of the vehicles give way to the buses, so follow closely to them, as their power of the road, becomes yours as a tailgater.

Don't be terrified of dingos. I have been bitten by a few dogs, but never a dingo. Be aware of dingos, but not terrified of them.
 The ladies selling the ice though, they're good chicks, and won't tell you crap. If you need condition reports etc, these are the chicks to talk too.

Shane.
Agree totally Shane , we had no problems with traffic on the tracks , it's get a bit busy on saturday's and sunday's which is to be expected but on the week days you will have the inland tracks & beach to yourself most of the time ,
Don't worry about the dingo's as we had them come up to us while we were fishing and even with the kids didn't cause us any concerns ,
The ladies at the shops were an excellent source of information as there were a few spots on tracks  that we were advised to be wary of that were washed away from the storm the previous night so we knew the conditions and drove accordingly
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Re: Fraser island
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2012, 03:01:33 PM »
you have only got about a 2 hour window either side of low tide to get around the trees at hook point if you want to drive up the beach ,
this is a very general time frame IMHO, it depends on tide heights and wind conditions aswell, something not alot of people take into account when they go to Fraser Island.
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