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Offline Gregmyswag

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Jerry Cans illegal
« on: November 18, 2011, 05:02:13 PM »
Anyone heard a rumour that it will be illegal to have jerry cans with fuel placed on the drawbar or the side of camper trailers next year 2012

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 05:15:59 PM »
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 05:17:50 PM »
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 05:21:02 PM »
I havn't heard of and can't find anything on this, who is the source of this rumour ???

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 05:21:48 PM »
Front and rear I am pretty sure are illegal already, haven't heard anything about the side being illegal.

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 05:35:57 PM »
Cub told me they are illegal for fuel.

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2011, 06:09:44 PM »
Next thing is they will tell you cant drive over -05 . If you cant carry jerrys where will we carry our port   ??? ;D ???
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2011, 06:17:24 PM »
Excelent use of our law enforcement time i say >:(  why waste time catching drug dealers ,kiddy fiddlers and drink drivers....
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2011, 07:13:36 PM »
Laws such as fuel storage are not upheld by the Police. They are covered by the Dangerous Goods Act and are 'policed' by the relevant State Government departments such as Workplace Standards. :police:
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2011, 07:58:57 PM »
I heard they do that in WA

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2011, 06:25:11 AM »
From the carrying of dangerous goods act.

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6.      Can you explain what is now ‘bulk’ or ‘packaged’ transport?

The former regulations defined ‘packaged dangerous goods’ and ‘dangerous goods in bulk’ in order to set the threshold limits for licensing and other obligations. The new regulations set out simplified triggers for licensing without the need to retain the old definitions. Also, ADG7 uses a container based approach that does not rely on differentiating between packed and bulk dangerous goods. Requirements are specified according to the type of container .e.g. tank vehicles, pressure drums, cylinders.

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Small quantities

7.      Are people transporting very small quantities of dangerous goods exempt from complying with the Dangerous Goods (Transport by Road or Rail) Regulations 2008 and the ADG Code?

Yes, people transporting very small quantities are exempt from complying if all of the following requirements are met. The load:

    does not contain any explosives (other than exempt explosives)
    does not contain any dangerous goods in a receptacle with a capacity of more than 500 litres or more than 500kg of dangerous goods in a single receptacle
    is less than 25 per cent of the placard load and is not being transported on a passenger train, and
    is not transported by a person conducting a business or person in the business of transporting dangerous goods.

The requirements also do not apply to the transport of dangerous goods in a vehicle if the:

    load involves very small consignments where the total quantity of dangerous goods is below the quantity limit for marking and labelling of inner packagings as detailed in the ADG Code (Volume 2, Part 5.2.1.8, page 419)
    dangerous goods are in a vehicle’s fuel tank
    dangerous goods are in appliances and plant that form part of a vehicle and are necessary for its operation
    goods are in portable fire fighting equipment or other portable safety equipment that are part of a vehicle’s safety equipment.
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2011, 06:31:45 AM »
.............also read that diesel is classified as a "Combustible Liquid", not "Dangerous Goods".
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2011, 06:41:25 AM »
There is no such ruling in WA. They are well behind the times and have only just introduced stamping of VIN numbers into trailer chassis.

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2011, 06:49:29 AM »
Are they going to make the rule for all fuels or just petril?  Diesel and Biodiesel are a whole lot less explosive than the later...

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2011, 06:57:34 AM »
It has been a rule in many states for quite some time, that Flammable Liquids cannot be carried on the front or rear extremities of a vehicle, where they are most likely to be dammaged in the event of an accident.  As stated in an earlier post, diesel is NOT a flammable liquid, it is a combustable liquid.  Carrying diesel is not the issue, this applies only to those carrying petrol.  Also the front of the camper trailer, between the camper and tow vehicle is not an extremity, in front of the car is a different issue.

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2011, 07:42:03 AM »
This same post has been put up in ExplorOz, me thinks a troll is at work trying to start a rumour  ???  No replies from the OP on either forum and a first time poster on both, hmm....

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2011, 07:43:13 AM »
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2011, 08:00:43 AM »
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If you cant carry jerrys where will we carry our port
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2011, 08:27:02 AM »
This same post has been put up in ExplorOz, me thinks a troll is at work trying to start a rumour  ???  No replies from the OP on either forum and a first time poster on both, hmm....

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2011, 01:21:19 PM »
Same post on Ausfish.

I believe that gas is included, the same as petrol, but as others have stated, diesel is exempt.

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2011, 02:08:33 PM »
Hi,
  I have a post on here some where with a heads up from an American site offering the last of the 'Jerry cans" as they will be phased out because they don't meet 'childproof' regulations for poisonous contents.

We are not getting confused with this proposed regulation are we?

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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2012, 05:33:14 PM »
I was just speaking to a guy from Hans trailers in bundaberg and he told me it is illegal to carry gas bottles or petrol in a jerry can on the side of the trailer in Qld. It supposedly has to go on the draw bar. That makes nearly every camper trailer illegal. If this is the case why do new manufacturers still do this if it is illegal? mmmmm makes me wonder!
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2012, 05:50:32 PM »
.............also read that diesel is classified as a "Combustible Liquid", not "Dangerous Goods".

yes thats true, and to put that into perspective wood is a combustable solid.  ;D

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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2012, 05:59:53 PM »
This all sounds like a huge shower of B S  to me  >:D
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Re: Jerry Cans illegal
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2012, 08:54:12 PM »
I was just speaking to a guy from Hans trailers in bundaberg and he told me it is illegal to carry gas bottles or petrol in a jerry can on the side of the trailer in Qld. It supposedly has to go on the draw bar. That makes nearly every camper trailer illegal. If this is the case why do new manufacturers still do this if it is illegal? mmmmm makes me wonder!
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