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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #50 on: March 22, 2011, 10:35:14 PM »
Quote from: cdboi84 on March 22, 2011, 09:56:47 PM
Do both your's and Nutto's campers have 15" rims or does one have 16"s?

Jayco didn't get to be the company they are by doing whatever they like and in fact after owning three Jayco's I wouldn't own anything else  ;D With the amount of Jayco owners on here... i'm not the only one who likes them  :cup:

Both are 15in.....

Not getting into a bagging this and that contest but just trying to clarify differences. Now, the height diff between the two is beyond noticable. Jayco got to the position buy providing a product at a reasonable price. The thing is, when you call the dealers, they don't have the answers to avert questions like this. Now, don't get me started onto build quality considering the van was new and had to wire up the fridge myself with dangerous wiring which has been reported to Jayco for action..(yes, built to a price)...Again, this wasn't meant to be a bagging Jayco thread but trying to find answers to questions that dealers couldn't answer...... ;D


Your input is valued and I'm glad someone from Jayco can answer the issues some of us have..... :cheers:
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #51 on: March 22, 2011, 10:44:28 PM »
Ok, a bit more background on Nutto's Hawk  vs Teabags 'lowrider' Hawk   >:D >:D ;D (settle down TB - longer shackles mate, prob solvered?... >:( )
My camper is basically stock.   The tare is stamped at 1084kg with 129kg ball weight, with the all up allowable weight being 1384kg, so I have the minimum weights that are as per the jayco specs in the 2010 sales brochure
Teabags is about 250kg heavier than mine dry, hence the 2t upgrade.
We both have the same 15' rims.
My camper was not a special order, it arrived as dealer floor stock the day before I phoned up about it, therefore, it was not designed around the vehicle hitch height, which none seem to be anyway as these things are production line so can't see them making adjustments to hitches to suit vehicles.  The dealers only ask what you have as a tug to make sure it is suitable for the job (how am i going cdboi84? - jump in if i'm barking up the wrong tree here.... ;D). 

Now, remember how I was banging on about hitch heights earlier, & Cdboi84 confirmed the max height above ground is 460mm.  Well, I made sure the camper was level, then took a measurement from the ground to the underside of the chassis at the a-frame drawbar (just in front of the jockey wheel) and low & behold, I am right on the legal max height of 460mm!!  As seen in my sig pic, the rig is level
So, what is this height on BD & TB rigs with the 2t setup?

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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #52 on: March 23, 2011, 08:23:43 AM »
Hey Nutto I always thought yours looked alot higher than others........
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #53 on: March 23, 2011, 08:26:20 AM »
Checked my hitch height this morning and mine is just over 405mm.
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #54 on: March 23, 2011, 08:39:49 AM »
Quote from: Teabag on March 23, 2011, 08:26:20 AM
Checked my hitch height this morning and mine is just over 405mm.
Mate, that's just too low - get up on the limit... ;D  ;D
Might as well have 22' wheels & pimp it good.....hehehe ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2011, 08:42:36 AM »
ill check it out tonight as well.
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #56 on: March 23, 2011, 09:38:13 AM »
Quote from: Nutto on March 23, 2011, 08:39:49 AM
Mate, that's just too low - get up on the limit... ;D  ;D
Might as well have 22' wheels & pimp it good.....hehehe ;D ;D ;D

Yep, might as well.  ;D ;D ;D

Go the low rider....hehehehe 8)
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #57 on: March 23, 2011, 11:09:48 AM »
Nutto do you need a milk crate to climb into the Hawk? Or are you looking at the extra step modification   ;D

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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2011, 12:35:06 PM »
Quote from: cruza driver on March 23, 2011, 11:09:48 AM
Nutto do you need a milk crate to climb into the Hawk? Or are you looking at the extra step modification   ;D



It's a bit of a struggle, I tell ya  ;D - might have to get teabags bottom step of him to add to mine - his is nearly on the ground anyway....  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #59 on: March 23, 2011, 12:39:45 PM »
Quote from: Nutto on March 23, 2011, 12:35:06 PM
It's a bit of a struggle, I tell ya  ;D - might have to get teabags bottom step of him to add to mine - his is nearly on the ground anyway....  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Your safe, they can't stack shyt that high....... ;D

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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2011, 01:31:20 PM »
  ;D ;D
Thanks for the entertainment fellas
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2011, 02:06:54 PM »
Quote from: Teabag on March 23, 2011, 12:39:45 PM
Your safe, they can't stack shyt that high....... ;D

PS: TIC

Hehehe...  55mm mate, 55mm... that's this much lower   |.......................................|     :'( ;D     Ya don't really need that bottom step.... >:D
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2011, 03:37:01 PM »
Nutto you could always dig holes and sit the tyres in there so you need the bottom step ;D

Also as you might remember I once owned a N/A 01 Hilux. I was wondering you encounter skateboard style speed wobbles with the amount of power the hilux puts out with the Jayco that high.  ;D

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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2011, 04:53:16 PM »

Rich,
Dammn wobbles - sh#t yeah - don't even go there.... >:(  such is the acceleration awesomeness of the lux, I'm finding that I frequently operate outside the speed rating on the 'awesomeless' std issue GT radial A/T's on the hawk, thereby, getting the dreaded death wobble. Thankfully, i have enough power in reserve to accerate more to pull the wobble straight, but this is bloody risky, as by this time, the tyres are screaming 'enough enough, you sic hilux'!!! 
I'm gunna need z rated tyres - it's the only answer.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Damm that lux is sic....... >:D   I don't know how you managed with your 01 model, as that is EFI, unlike my mechanical injected firebreather, so you had 3 more out-of-control kw's to manage.....you must have had a hell time with that thing   >:D >:D ;D ;D ;D

Anyway, back to Teabags lowrider hawk - lad's been through a few tissues...  :'(  :'( ;D ;D
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #64 on: March 23, 2011, 05:07:55 PM »
So, my Jayco Hawk (so called Outback) is really a fully sick low riding chick magnet....... 8).......Soon, I will be way too sexy for this place....... 8).......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39YUXIKrOFk
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #65 on: March 23, 2011, 05:09:47 PM »
I wonder if I can get the Low Riding Jayco to do this........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlD1KgfHGXs&feature=fvst
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #66 on: March 23, 2011, 06:44:07 PM »
Quote from: Teabag on March 23, 2011, 08:26:20 AM
Checked my hitch height this morning and mine is just over 405mm.
Just checked mine as well and its exactly the same, just over 405mm with 15" wheels.

The easiest way is to get some more height is change the tyres to 31x10.5R15
Current tyres 235/75R15 are 733mm overall diameter.
and the 31's are 775mm.
A difference of 42mm which we need to half so that will give us 21mm extra height which will still leave us about an inch shorter than Nutto 8)
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #67 on: March 23, 2011, 06:48:24 PM »
Quote from: Black Diamond on March 23, 2011, 06:44:07 PM
Just checked mine as well and its exactly the same, just over 405mm with 15" wheels.

The easiest way is to get some more height is change the tyres to 31x10.5R15
Current tyres 235/75R15 are 733mm overall diameter.
and the 31's are 775mm.
A difference of 42mm which we need to half so that will give us 21mm extra height which will still leave us about an inch shorter than Nutto 8)
Story of my life  ;D

Cool, you can join me in the low riding so called Outback club...... ;D
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #68 on: March 23, 2011, 06:54:00 PM »
Quote from: Teabag on March 23, 2011, 06:48:24 PM
Cool, you can join me in the low riding so called Outback club...... ;D
;D Trendsetters we are.
I couldve done with the extra height crossing the howqua river at Bindaree last weekend i tell ya, i nearly took the spare off. The only thing that saved it was the Myswag wheel cover  :cheers:

So TB if you knew going 2t axle would give you 55mm less height before you ordered it, which way wouldve you gone?

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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #69 on: March 23, 2011, 06:57:50 PM »
Quote from: Black Diamond on March 23, 2011, 06:54:00 PM
;D Trendsetters we are.
I couldve done with the extra height crossing the howqua river at Bindaree last weekend i tell ya, i nearly took the spare off. The only thing that saved it was the Myswag wheel cover  :cheers:

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And that a certain trailer had also cleared the way ;D

Even my daughter asked how Captain Crunch was doing today

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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #70 on: March 23, 2011, 06:59:23 PM »
Quote from: Black Diamond on March 23, 2011, 06:54:00 PM
;D Trendsetters we are.
I couldve done with the extra height crossing the howqua river at Bindaree last weekend i tell ya, i nearly took the spare off. The only thing that saved it was the Myswag wheel cover  :cheers:

So TB if you knew going 2t axle would give you 55mm less height before you ordered it, which way wouldve you gone?

Cheers
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I would not have ordered that extra water tank or gas bottle......but hey, still does the job but would have loved it be a true Outback height.


PS: mine was measured with water tanks and camper empty of any personal gear.......
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #71 on: March 23, 2011, 07:05:30 PM »
Quote from: Teabag on March 23, 2011, 06:59:23 PM
I would not have ordered that extra water tank or gas bottle......but hey, still does the job but would have loved it be a true Outback height.


PS: mine was measured with water tanks and camper empty of any personal gear.......
Same here. A couple of Jerry cans of water and jobs done.
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #72 on: March 23, 2011, 07:12:00 PM »
Quote from: GGPatrol on March 23, 2011, 06:57:50 PM
And that a certain trailer had also cleared the way ;D

Even my daughter asked how Captain Crunch was doing today

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Yes you got that right Garrick :cheers:
Cleared the way like a dredge and left a nice beacon to navigate through.....

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« Reply #73 on: March 23, 2011, 07:47:49 PM »
Great read :cup: :cup:
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Re: Jayco Outback - Axle
« Reply #74 on: March 24, 2011, 08:19:07 AM »
Quote from: Teabag on March 23, 2011, 06:59:23 PM
I would not have ordered that extra water tank or gas bottle......but hey, still does the job but would have loved it be a true Outback height.


Its a caravan............deal with it  ;D  ;D  ;D
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