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Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« on: December 26, 2017, 05:37:13 PM »
Have anyone modified their Kaymar twin wheel carrier and add jerry cans to it.
Pics will be great.
Also how did it hold up on corrugation?
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2017, 06:43:27 PM »
Considering 'Kaymar want $900.00 plus for the arm with the dual jerry box.  (I've asked them, ok.  & DUAL is really spelt that way.)
It shouldn't be a hard option to achieve.  I have an original Kaymar dual(double) jerry box on mine.
Looks to be 1.5 to 2mm sheet steel pieces that were used when they made it.
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2017, 06:51:36 PM »
Are you thinking about cannibalising one of your existing arms, making a new dedicated arm for the jerries, or bolting a jerry can holder to the wheel mount?

For reference, two full jerries are about the same weight as a 16" steel rim with a 285/75 KM2.

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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2017, 07:15:33 PM »
I was thinking one jerry per side and modifying the two wheel carriers.
I remember seeing in a mag a guy from NT with a LC76 with Kaymar twin wheel carrier and a jerry can fix to each. He was also towing a Camprite camper.
The wheel carriers was design to carry a high lift jack and up to 315/75/16 wheels with steel rims, so hopefully the single jerry per side will not push it over.
Just after some ideas of fixing it, at the back (1st price - between wheel and door) or the front of the wheel. The guy I mention above had it in front of the wheel.
Anyway, just want to know if anyone have done this or something similar.

And thanks, I’ll check the Rasslar website
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2017, 07:35:12 PM »
Hang on $900 to carry 2 jerry cans & 2 spare tyres . Get a roof rack for the tug or CT  . You can carry bare tyres & Jerries at a fraction of the cost & weight . lf you not up to changing tyres out there then its your call ,  myself l will change them  .      :cheers:
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2017, 08:53:48 PM »
So you want to carry a wheel and a jerry can on each swing arm?....if so that is a lot of weight when the can is full. Not saying it can't be done, but the movement on corrugated roads from all that weight would break it sooner or later i reckon. I converted my old single arm wheel carrier Kamar bar to a dual arm one on my last vehicle, just cut in and welded a new stub axle to the spare side and went from there....at the end of the day it's just welding steel to create what is needed, nothing special really.
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2017, 10:13:07 PM »
Hang on $900 to carry 2 jerry cans & 2 spare tyres . Get a roof rack for the tug or CT  . You can carry bare tyres & Jerries at a fraction of the cost & weight . lf you not up to changing tyres out there then its your call ,  myself l will change them  .      :cheers:
$900.00 was for just the arm with the dual can holder.  And there's no tyre Mount involved.
My reference to Rasslar was for Modifying a Kaymar Tyre carrier arm into a double can holder. 
This involved removing the part that mounted the tyre, and fitting the box that holds the Jerry cans.

I'm with Geoff and Rummy here.
If you want a can mounted to a spare tyre on each side of the rear of the vehicle, that's fine.
Just don't expect to carry anything else in the vehicle behind the back seat. Or on the roof.
And you'll need a tow bar, just like the bent Cruiser at Inskip Point.
The same thing will probably happen too.
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2017, 07:03:23 AM »
If you're planning to add a jerry holder to a swing-away that's also carrying a wheel, I think you'd be asking for trouble in more ways than one.

The extra weight WILL be an issue for both GVM and fatigue. Mounting it further from the body will compound it.

My 2c.

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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2017, 01:33:57 PM »
Correct, the weight at the back will break something.
I have a long range tank and am planning for my Canning trip.
Will leave the rooftop tent and carry fuel on the roof.
I only need 40L in jerry cans.
That should be enough with the 166L in the long range tank to get to the halveway point.
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2017, 06:53:53 PM »
Where are we planning to go that requires the extra tyre on rims & the jerry cans of fuel ,,,,,,, ???
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2017, 06:00:56 AM »
Where are we planning to go that requires the extra tyre on rims & the jerry cans of fuel ,,,,,,, ???

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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2017, 11:58:50 AM »
can I add that the bar alone is ****in heavy.. I was shocked when I fitted mine as to how heavy it was

fwiw, much lighter to take tyres and couple of tyre levers.
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2018, 09:23:46 PM »
l have never traveled the Canning  but l don't believe the rims will be buggered when the tyres are . As said all you need is a few tyre irons  , a rubber mallet  & 1/2 hour to fix the job . When you stuff a tyre its usually time for a cuppa anyway  . When you pull up put the billie on & kick back . lf your that time poor then you really do need to slow down a bit  .               Just a thought                :cheers:
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2018, 04:57:27 AM »
can I add that the bar alone is ****in heavy.. I was shocked when I fitted mine as to how heavy it was

FWIW, the GU Kaymar bar itself weighs 62kg. It adds 32kg over a std GU rear setup and tow bar.

Each swing away arm adds 11 kg. A wheel and mud tyre is about 40kg.

Weights for other cars may vary.
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Re: Kaymar twin wheel carrier with jerry cans
« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2018, 06:50:19 PM »
If planning to go with the suggestion of carrying a tyre only as the 2nd spare and fit it to a rim when required, make sure you have a go at home before you leave with someone who has done it before. Removal and replacement of tyres requires significant physical effort and there's a few tricks to it. Using levers isn't generally advised on alloy rims as you will damage the rim, but it can be done.

Can you carry your 2nd spare on the roof, preferably up front to get some weight forward, and run a twin jerry holder on the swing arm that is freed up? Getting a tyre & rim on and off the roof rack presents another challenge though.