Both are soft floor, the first is newer, and is top of the range with some great extras like fridge. It's a smaller tent, more like the size for a rear fold hard floor. I'm pretty sure it's being sold by a swagger, and if so I think it is its probably in great condition. The second has a huge area under canvas if that is what you want, and also looks like it's been well optioned up. Modcon canvas work is really good quality. But neither are hard floor :-)