thanks for all the welcomes i did think about hire camper trailers but theres not much in the geelong area most places i will be goining in it will be sw vic so bit of a hassel going to melbourne then back again to drop it off , anyways like the idea of having one ready to go , i have done some research on cheaper brand campers ie mdc , ezy,mars ,gic,and at this stage im leaning twards ezytrail from what ive read on this site and others a lot are pretty happy with them and you seem to get alot for your dollars ,im a spraypainter panelbeater so i will prob stonegaurd under it and respray the whole thing again just to make sure it anit going to rust also when ido this will change the seals on tailgate and top section that foam they use is just crap and maybe a rewire from what ive read the wireing and tank hoses arent to flash, by the way had alook in the camper builds awsome thers some talet in that lot, let yas know how im travelling with it cheers john