New Triton 4x4

[thommo19]

Thanks guys for all your comments,alot to think about.

Jeff

[discoteddy]

It's a blanking kit on the forum for those who cant make one. From memory a blank plate and gaskets.  My point is if they sell them there is a market for it.

I want to be clear here. I am over the BS that some owners go on with about their precious goddam cars. We are not discussing our wives here but chunks of metal.  If there is a problem suck it up. Imagine how many potential patrol owners would have been saved thousands of dollars in repair bills if the BS about it only affecting a few "early" ones had not happened.

As soon as you hear "all vehicles have problems" you know the vehicle has become their bitch.

The SPECIFIC issue with Triton is the manifold design.  It IS an ongoing issue but it shouldn't deter you from buying one if you are happy to fix it with a mod or get the ecu reflashed and manifolds replaced routinely.

Mmmm time for a bex and a good lay down maybe

Our ML has just on 95,000 Km's on the odo, she has been a good truck and has towed the Trackabout without complaint, through Fraser Island and through Davies Plains ( up and down) without recovery. She only gets used for family camping adventures and is set up as such. I guess I'm one of these weirdos that thinks their truck has a character, just going for a drive in the big girl makes me grin! We bought her new and I've had her serviced every 7,500 Km's by MMA. She has been ultra reliable with my only drama being an experiment with Iron Man suspension earlier on which has since be replaced with a full Ultimate kit.

I to had earlier concerns re the manifold issue, had no dramas but my dealer replaced the manifold with the new "updated" manifold  at one of the interim services, no real performance difference although the fuel consumption dropped slightly. On the flip side maybe I've just been lucky!!

Yep the big girl ain't perfect, may have a potential carbon issue one day, the drivers seat is not as comfortable as our new Swift and servicing ain't cheep but she's a keeper. When our family of four opens the shed door and see the Trito/Trackie pair we can't help but smile

 
Time for another port.

Disco teddy.

[dazzler]

Mmmm time for a bex and a good lay down maybe

Hi Disco

Actually I had some panadol due to the dreaded flu.  Its not often I crack it - just occasionally 

Good luck with yours.

[dirtpilot]

My NS Pajero just had the manifolds replaced as the second attempt to fix engine surging under light throttle, the first being a reflash of the ECU.
Step 3 was clean the EGR valve and reflash again.....

Still surging.... perhaps the fly by wire throttle is buggered...
6 weeks to go to end of warranty. I am determined to get this sorted....

Ask them to check the suction control valve.

[dirtpilot]

I have a 2010 MN with 180k on the dial. Heres what goes wrong with them,

Manifolds carbon up every 80k approx

Sychros on gearboxes wear out

Suction control valves fail

Rear springs squeak and sag

Also had MAF senser replaced 2x, cd player x1, 1x turbo at 80k, steering rack leaked.

Steering colums are replaced on some, seats are terrible, turbo lag under 2000rpm.

Servicing is very expensive av $450 minor, $800 mid, up to $1500 major. Valve clearances need to be checked every 30,000km ($400 extra) timing belts at 100k.

Positives,

Not bad off road

Good value for money

Best warranty in the class

Good mid rang power

clutches last labout 140k


Summary, not bad, not good, cheap to buy and good warranty cover.

[spargo]

We've got a 2008 MY09 VR dual-cab, since new, done 70K kms. It has the 3.2L engine, and what I think it the now very-dated 4-speed auto. As a VR, ours has the Super-Select Auto box, providing 2H, All-Wheel-Drive, as well as 4H on the fly, and of course 4L. Without Super-select, I wouldn't have got it.

It does the job on and off road. Fuel economy is reasonable, interior space and comfort was class-leading in '08, we got an alloy tray put on it not long after new but have out-grown it now with two kids onboard so we're back to the styleside tub.

Top of your list not long after driving it home should be The Ultimate Suspension al-round. Just brilliant stuff that allows it to drive like it should from the factory. Some decent A/T tyres have also been a dramatic improvement to the vehicle over the stock rubber.

While I can't say I love it, it is a very good ute, only now being overtaken by the Amarok and matched by the BT-50/D-Max.

[laddon]

I have today returned from my local dealer with a quote of $1400 to replace the manifolds on my 07 Triton. I went in today with an intermitent engine light issue and returned home somewhat dissapointed in the dealers explanation. Toinght I turned to the inter-web to find I'm not alone here. This vehicle has done 105k's and been relaible towing a camper all over the SE Qld. I did tell the dealer I would consider his estimate along with his unwillingness to say this problem would not reoccur.

[dazzler]

And I thought it was all an Internet conspiracy.

[laddon]

I notice there is mention on this forum of a fix for the Triton carbon build up with a blanking plate to the EGR and a catch can arrangement. My question to the knowledgable few is if the plate is installed is there a need to change to an aftermarket chip? It would appear from some marketing firms of this equipment these are sold as a set. As I see it there is little benefit of changing the mainfolds only to have the problem return a a later date. My goal like most other owners I expect, is to do it once and do it properly something I had hoped my Triton manufacturer was doing for me with R&D.
 

[Matto]

Laddon,

My understanding is that you don't need a chip. Early ECU's would throw a fault code if the ECU was blanked, and a lot of people fitted chips to stop that happening. However, my understanding is that the latest ECU code has fixed this, and that you can blank away to your heart's content. Those with earlier ECU's can have the dealer flash them up to the latest version.

This is all second-hand knowledge - I've been sorely tempted by one of these cheap GLX tritons, so have been lurking around NTN and consuming as much knowledge about them as humanly possible.

Good luck with the repair.
Matto

[laddon]

Matto thank you for your response.
I have had the chip flashed and do expect it wil be up to the task with a blanking plate installed.
I can't really criticise my ML Triton as it has been realiable and taken me to many a great camp spot with little outlay.

If nothing else this problem happened me visisting the local TJM guy who has a tricked up Triton with a similar isssue and has talked me into a new front bar and possible lift kit. Makes my orignal manifold replacement quote of $1400 from the dealer seem a paltry amount now.

Regards,
Laddon

[mongrel]

I am on my second Triton.  First was an ML and second was an MN.  I love em.

Admittedly, I turn it over every 4 or 5 years, so maybe I don't have them long enough to have an issue - but both trucks have been brilliant!

[4wd26]

Laddon, you have a early ML, you can blank these (really good if you have just replaced the manifold)
when I did this I found that I would get limp modes- only about 10% of the ML tritons suffer this when blanked- trial and see

this is where the chip comes into the equation in that it does not allow the code that blocking the EGR (I think absolute manifold pressure) to register in the triton ECU and therefore it does not limp and allowed me to block the EGR

I have had the plate in and chip installed for over 110,000kms of the vehicles 120,000km trouble free life.

Booked in for its last service before warranty expires in 2 weeks- will be getting the manifold looked at- should be clean due to the blank.

been quoted $1100 which includes the tappets adjusted and misc filters/ oils (big cost service)

It has been run with 32" mud tyres and the whole ARB catalogue since new and towed a 2 tonne offroad van to a lot of Australia (Fraser Island for example) and been able to keep up with most vehicles offroad as well (dual locked, transfer case gears and 34" simex centerpeeds- so has not been babied)

still "love that car" 

[laddon]

Thanks 4wd26, I will install the new style of manifolds and revisit the plate/chip.
The triton does seem more than capable off road and provides a good level of passenger comfort.
Laddon

[dazzler]

Thanks 4wd26, I will install the new style of manifolds and revisit the plate/chip.
The triton does seem more than capable off road and provides a good level of passenger comfort.
Laddon

If you are mechanically minded you could pull the old ones, clean them, refit and then blank.  The new manifold puts the sensor higher up so it takes longer carbon up and if you put the blank plate in this isn't an issue.  (At least thats my understanding)

[dirtpilot]

$32,000 with $2000 cashback. In todays paper for dual GLX.

[Sawed-Off]

orignal manifold replacement quote of $1400 from the dealer

http://wynns.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/EGR4-Spray-23478-PIS.pdf

About $20 if you can find it. I believe it's a "professional" product that doesn't generally appear on retail shelves. Might have to ring around to a few mechanics.