seriously, life's too short to drink warm beer.... i have a 3 way in the current van which sucks arse, but my new one i have on order has a 12v i can totally dedicate to food.... therefore my 60l fiberglass Evakool is 100% for beer. Including battery, cable to charge, box etc its a $1600+ exercise, but when im drinking ice cold beer in the middle of nowhere, id pay double that for the set up. I used to buy beer at highly inflated prices, drive backwards and forwards to civilisation to buy crappy half melted ice and on the second day it was basically coolish water.... know what id prefer....