Fuel station bowser calibration accuracy.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Having been around/worked petrol stations a bit in my life and the fact my brother still owns one today, we've seen it all.

When the "weights and measures" folks use to call in to check the pumps, if one was short changing customers, they would lock it straight away.
If it was short changing the service station, they just told you about it.

I guess i have to ask the question, if the pump was out of order the other way, say you filled an empty Jerry can you knew was dead empty and only 15 litres showing on the bowser, filled it to overfowing, would you offer to pay the extra and do the right thing or keep ya mouth shut.
Hmmm, i bet i know which one.... 
Most would slip home, get another Jerry can and fill that too as well as the car, the wifes car, tell the neighbours that bowser 4 is in a very good mood today and keep ya mouth shut the whole time your paying for the fuel.
OF COURSE, I'M NOT SAYING ANYONE ON HERE WOULD DO THAT, i'm just saying, most folks have very double stanards when it comes to being shortchanged.

We once had a bloke not want to pay for fuel for whatever reason, so we offered to drain the fuel out again.When told, it might take an hour or so, he paid up.

If someone tried to not pay for the bowser amount, the console operator would have to call the cops. He or she, can only act on what the bowser tells them.
In my opinion, you need to pay for what the amount is the bowser has shown, but tell the operator, you will take it up with management at your first chance.
Take down all details, names, times etc and do it correctly.

If ya don't want to do it that way, then just cop it on the chin.

Its no different to when i get booked for speeding, which is pretty often. I try to cop it on the chin, as the number of times i've gotten away with not getting booked, far outweighs the times i did.

Another good example, is a mate use to work for Top Taste and the trouble they went to so that cakes made the correct weight.
If they passed a set point a tad under weight, the creamer or jammer would be adjusted for aa extra big squirt  to get it over the minimum weight and they often fell into the 1 - 5% over the correct weight and no customers complained, but geez, have it come out under weight, they would have to scrap 'ém if any were left over once the staff got into them.


 

[bunyip]

Thanks Hairs,

I will look at that, the issue I have is the dual fuel and having to record odometer readings whenever you change fuel types. We tried this on our last camping trip but forgot to do it after the second or third day.

Bunyip

[Hairs]

Hey Bunyip,
I think the only way to use Fuelly with two fuel types is to setup a second vehicle with either gas or ULP.
Yeah, I know apita 

[cruisindub]

I agree with Hewy54 'ps' comment. Nice andfriendly and calm.
Although, on my calculations, it doesn't matter where I fuel up, they are all thieving. Cost per litre of fuel is outrageous. Doesn't matter where you shop,they're all the same. Bloody over priced necessity.!!

Anyway, some interesting replies. Also a few informative ones.

To settle a score,like if an ATM dispense more cash than i ask for, one mistake is acceptable. If it short changes me,a second mistake is unacceptable.
Likewise,if a bowser was under charging, one mistake can be accepted.  If it starts short changing, a second mistake is not! !!

[jetcrew]

I think if you know your right then stick to your guns , you are not stealing ... If the machine says I put 90ltrs and my tank is incapable of holding 90ltrs. then I don't care if you call Ghost Busters I anint paying for it.

Cops turn up to settle the dispute ... wheres the offence ?? if I am offering to pay for the 75ltrs which my tank can hold at maxium fill as per manufactures specification.

Imagine the court case when you produce the data sheet from the maunufacturer of the car to the judge , so the servo will be claiming that thier pump is correct and that toyota/Mitsi are wrong... and given that fuel capicities are factored into the euro 4 emissions standards the repercussions of a veh manufacturer understating the capicity of the tank would be huge. Thus why we all can never actually fit the stated amount into our tanks as per the owners manual. cause just like Top Taste ..toyota would rather overstate the capacity then be caught understating it.

Jet

[briann532]

I accept that this, like most threads, bears ill towards few who are dishonest, but tarnishes those who are not......

SORRY.
I've said it, I mean it and I'll stick to it.
If you are an honest servo, be it staff member, owner, manager or anything else, best wishes to you.
If you are a thief, then may Gillard reign upon you!

I can accept errors and margins as there is in most things.
BUT I cannot accept paying for 24 litres when only getting 20.
Imagine if I was sticking my usual 100-110 litres in the patrol.....................

Too right, I would tell them if they gave me 110 for the price of 80, but when does that happen? I'm honest. Ok I know I'm wierd and strange and all the other stuff, but I am honest.
And yes I do complain when I get short changed. Why shouldn't I?

Years ago, at the same station, the same (person who I refuse to accept is actually born of this planet!!!!) attendant swiped my motorcharge card, I signed and started to walk out.
Before I reached the door I realise that instead of charging my $87.00 for the diesel, he had charged me $8,700.00.

I patiently re waited my turn and then showed him.
He politely informed me there was nothing he could do and I had to take it up with motorcharge.
Now these local inept beings have a bit of a reputation in our area and I asked again to sort it out.
He told me he couldn't and asked me to leave.
Of course I refused and started to argue with him.
After a while I was upsetting the other customers and getting nowhere.
I then asked him to call the police.
He wouldn't and kept asking me to leave.
I then started getting agro and threatened him with some minor rearrangement of body parts if he didn't either credit the money or call the cops.
Eventually he called the cops who obviously had better things to do and had the Shits with both of us.
They told me just to take it up with motorcharge and get lost.
I refused as he had a docket with my signature on it for that amount.
Ie I signed and agreed to pay for it on a legal docket.
Forget it, I wasn't leaving.

After being read the riot act, and threatened with an arrest, I decided it best to leave.............
I then proceeded outside under police escort and asked if they would like their ford ranger filled with diesel?
Since I had paid for $8700.00 worth I was going to take it.
I'd give it to every motorist who came in and any I could't get rid of, I'd come back to get later, perhaps over the next 6 months, 3 times a week, till I'd got it all.

Oh and by the way, when you get called back here, I'll show you my receipt to prove I'd allready paid for it............
Obviously constable plod was not happy, but could now see my point and went back in to apu to see what could be done.

Lo and behold, my card was represented and the full $8700 was credited back to the card.
When I got the receipt apu asked me for the card back so he could charge the correct amount.
I looked and plod, looked at apu and told them to arrest me for stealing. They owed me $87.00 for my time.
Plod suggested apu just cop this one for not doing the right thing in the first place 

Hence why I don't give a rats posterior if he doesn't like me.

Only real problem is I have no other local to go to, as the one down the road is out of my way and on the wrong side of the road.
I'll just have to stick to this until someone either stuffs him in a blender, or he sells out.....

Just to drag this saga on a bit................
I've filled up at servos all over the country and more than 99 percent are pleasant helpful friendly people.
I also accept that some of those that aren't have been driven to the point by inconsiderate motorist, BUT I didn't do it, so why should I be punished?
Treat me as I treat you.

Cheers and I shall now quietly fall of the side of my soapbox................
Brian

[Boxhead 71]

I guess i have to ask the question, if the pump was out of order the other way, say you filled an empty Jerry can you knew was dead empty and only 15 litres showing on the bowser, filled it to overfowing, would you offer to pay the extra and do the right thing or keep ya mouth shut.
Hmmm, i bet i know which one.... 
Most would slip home, get another Jerry can and fill that too as well as the car, the wifes car, tell the neighbours that bowser 4 is in a very good mood today and keep ya mouth shut the whole time your paying for the fuel.
OF COURSE, I'M NOT SAYING ANYONE ON HERE WOULD DO THAT, i'm just saying, most folks have very double stanards when it comes to being shortchanged.

Hardly a fair call....... 'cause the bowser being out in our favour WOULDN'T HAPPEN!!!!

Chris.

[cruisindub]

No wonder myfuel economy is as bad as it is on my old Ute.

I'm paying for more fuel than actually putting in the tank, may my old Banger isnt as bad as I think it is...

[Bird]

I find it hard to believe anyone thinks a jerry can to expand enough to hold 27 ltrs. no matter what the temp inside, outside or upside down.

and as for having to pay for the 27ltrs that you KNOW you didnt get, I'd have told them to take it back.

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http://www.ssa.org.au/contact_us/index.php