LPG bottles

[cewilson]

I'm currently sorting out a new trailer that's been built in America.  The 9kg LPG bottle currently on it is tested to American standards and has a different connection altogether.  Now I 'believe' that it is illegal to use because it doesn't have Australian standards stamped onto the bottle, however I haven't found any legislation stating that.

Is anyone able to clarify the above problem please?


Thankyou
Chris

[barnray]

G'day Chris first thing if it not Aust standard then it is a no no. second how will you fill it if it is different to Aus? Barnray

[speewa158]

Mate shout yoiurself a new bottle ,,, $35 or so , cut the old 1 up & make a camp oven stove cooker out of it . No drama , have a BoPeep in Camp Oven Thread & check out the goings on 

[GeoffA]

Mate shout yoiurself a new bottle ,,, $35 or so , cut the old 1

Once again we see Speewa is "on the money".........don't stuff around with it......

[Mace]

AS Documentation sits below Federal & State Government legislation in the hierachy of legal documentation.

Relevant Standards are devised in consultation with industry bodies/government departments and the public as best practise solutions  for dealing with a particular issues (motor vehicle safety, electrical safety, gas safety and lots more).

These standards are then adopted by Quasi Govenrment bodies (Worksafe in Victoria for example) as minimum requirements, and referred to in Courts during prosecutions.

Although they arnt "legislation" as such , fail to comply with them at your PERIL.  They fit just above compliance codes and guidance notes in the "legal eagle" hierachy.

Ill look up the Gas Fitting Standards 2morro and Post up a link.

 

Mace.

[Garry H]

in you "sorting out" get them to leave the bottle in USA and make sure the holder for the bottle is adjustable for a diameter that will suit the local bottles, remember even all the bottles here arn't the same size
I would be interested why and what sort of trailer you are getting from the states that can't be got here and the $ comparisons, and how it all works out for you
cheers

[cewilson]

Thanks fellas.  I figured it'd be getting replaced but curiosity was with me as I couldn't find the actual black and white proof.  That's the second time today as I couldn't find where it states that you have to use a circuit breaker on brake controllers either!!!

[cewilson]

Sorry Garry, you must have posted whilst I was typing.

The trailer itself is not mine.  We've had a Trak Shak for a few years now and absolutely love it.  I am setting this up for a mate who is 'overseas' at the moment.  His wife doesn't have a clue about any of it, and being that I'm their childrens Godfather - well it's the least I can do.

I've been finding it difficult as I don't have any experience with pop-tops at all.  It is totally different to our Trak Shak in nearly every way.  There was no instructions on how to set it up, how to get the fridge working - nothing at all.  Everything has been plodding along tracing wiring and plumbing etc to work it out. 

There was no grey water hoses with it, no hose for the water tank and a lot of other basic things (in my opinion) was missing as well.  The lid for the battery box wasn't secure and I have no idea where it is - items like that which are small and frustrating.

I must say though that there are a lot of great ideas in this trailer that I do really like.  I'll have a really good idea by the end of this weekend, especially considering some of the guys up there know more about it than I do so it should be good.

There are photos here:  http://cewilson.offroader.com.au/?p=2565


Cheers
Chris

[Mace]

If anyones still  interested, a few extracts from AS 1777 (Aluminium cylinders for Compressed Gasses) follow.  These extracts give an overview of Standards production.

This Australian Standard was prepared by Committee ME-002, Gas Cylinders. It
was approved on behalf of the Council of Standards Australia on 25 October 2005.
This Standard was published on 16 November 2005.

The following are represented on Committee ME-002:
Air Conditioning and Refrigeration Wholesalers Association
Australasian Institute of Engineer Surveyors
Australia New Zealand Industrial Gas Association
Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry
Australian Industry Group
Australian Liquefied Petroleum Gas Association
Department for Administrative and Information Services, S.A.
Fire Protection Association of Australia
Institute of Materials Engineering Australasia
International Association for Natural Gas Vehicles
Pressure Equipment Association Incorporated
The Australian Gas Association
Victorian WorkCover Authority
Welding Technology Institute of Australia
WorkCover New South Wales

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[cewilson]

Thanks mate