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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #50 on: June 22, 2011, 06:09:59 PM »
We tried to buy the kingspan insulation in Adelaide but most hardware stores only sold it
in a large roll . Found a similar product called Green Insulation reflecta guard .
Mitre10 sell it in 8m handi pack . Went halves with friend with another jayco hawk .
I will test it out this weekend .
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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #51 on: June 22, 2011, 06:59:22 PM »
if you want to stay warm or even hot at night in bed use polar fleece  blankets  . they are the best thing  since slice bread
one under you and one on top  then a doona nice and toasty

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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #52 on: June 22, 2011, 07:13:55 PM »
i have brought a roll of this with the intension of using it to make a solar blanket to go over the camper but after reading this thread i might stick it under the mattress as well (if its not too noisey)
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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2011, 11:07:22 PM »
Hi guys

Just some feedback based on our own recent experience.
Bought some Kingspan insulation from the local Bunnings that had some offcut, took it home and cut to size to fit under the mattress on the ply baseboard. Great idea!

Went weekend camping at Nanga Mill in May, definitely made a difference in retaining body heat at 4 degrees overnight. We also use a memory foam thingy on top of the mattress and an underlay, then woollen throws we found cheap somewhere and a doona.

Just come back from up North after 2 weeks on the road, and on cleaning out the camper we noticed for the first time some considerable mould underneath the mattress. Although we were warm most nights (with beanies and thermals, socks and port of course) we also felt we were sweating more at night if that makes sense. Heavy condensation in the camper most mornings.

We are now up for a new mattress because we don't want to risk cleaning this one.

So although the air cell insulation works well in trapping body heat, it also traps moisture. Mea culpa for not airing the mattress every day, but when you are set up for 5 nights in one spot it doesn't seem an issue and when moving along with early morning departures for long distances travelled during the day it isn't an option.

So now have the air cell sheet in the shed.

We won't be using it again.
So if you are/have been using this idea it works but will need to take care in airing the mattress frequently though.

Just our experience.

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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2011, 09:32:01 AM »
30+ grand for a campertrailer and you have cold air coming up under the mattress ???
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Re: How to stop the cold? - Kingspan Air-cell Question
« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2011, 09:38:14 PM »
Has anyone else had this problem with using this insulation under their mattress?

After reading heaps of posts about people putting it under their mattresses in their Jayco's we were all set to buy some ourselves.  Went to Bunnings on Saturday to buy it, but our local one didn't have it so we were going to get it from another one this week.   But I don't want to buy it if we are going to get a mouldy mattress!

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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2011, 09:45:01 PM »
if you want to stay warm or even hot at night in bed use polar fleece  blankets  . they are the best thing  since slice bread
one under you and one on top  then a doona nice and toasty

x a trillion!

I always have 2 spare single polar fleece blankies beside the bed.  They make all the difference in cold conditions, as they seem to trap the heat in.

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Re: How to stop the cold? - Kingspan Air-cell Question
« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2011, 09:47:22 PM »
Has anyone else had this problem with using this insulation under their mattress?

After reading heaps of posts about people putting it under their mattresses in their Jayco's we were all set to buy some ourselves.  Went to Bunnings on Saturday to buy it, but our local one didn't have it so we were going to get it from another one this week.   But I don't want to buy it if we are going to get a mouldy mattress!

Very keen to hear from others who have used it and whether you have had this problem.

I checked our Jayco Hawk today. No worries......both mattresses good as gold.
IMO the Jayco mattresses get pretty good ventilation, and I don't think it will cause a problem.
I will monitor it very closely.
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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #58 on: July 20, 2011, 06:31:19 PM »
we have had one on our bed at home for three years and have not used  a power  blank in all that time . it works that good one blanket $20 .
it has allowed  me to that the  boss winter camping how that

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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #59 on: July 20, 2011, 09:09:21 PM »
Yeah the issue is more about

a/ condensation
b/ ventilation.

and getting the balance right.

All I am suggesting is if you do use the reflective air cells under the mattress, more frequent airing is required. Trouble with us is we tend to spend one or two nights in one place more often than not and if you waited in winter for the sun / wind to dry the inside of the canvas/camper before you moved on, there would not be much travel time left in the day!

Post camping trip in the winter/wet, drying out the bedding and canvas are top priority for us now!
We prefer winter camping, less crowds, less bugs, generally no bookings required.

New mattress collected today. Lesson learnt, but will also use some of that Hippo stuff mentioned in other recent posts when storing the camper. What we do now is pop up the camper in the shed for a few days to dry out, even with an oil heater on inside it, that works a treat.

Yep even my double brick cavity wall house here is WA gets cold in winter, mainly because we sleep with at least one window open: it has nothing to do with price of our house/camper! You shoulda seen the condensation in the house we had in Invercargill, NZ, one morning there were stalactites on the inside of the bedroom windows, neighbours' water pipes froze and burst, had to come over to shower at our house. We opened the  bath taps waiting for the ice in the pipes to thaw and went down the shops.....

...oops

.... came back home

... rivers down the passage! :-[

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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #60 on: August 05, 2011, 11:18:51 PM »
I have been having the same issue. The under side of our mattress becoming wet. From what i have found out it only happens with a foam mattress because they retain the moisture we expel during the night. Innersprung mattress is better vented and does not retain the moisture.

I have put a layer of EMP mesh under the mattress which has stopped this moisture forming. Found it on a boating website. Apparently it is a big issue for boats. Link to the site I got it from.

http://www.empind.com.au/cat/index.cgi/shopfront/view_product_details?category_id=9794&product_id=302427

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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #61 on: August 05, 2011, 11:37:26 PM »
thanks lowlux

the mattress was foam, good point about the innersprungs.

The logic behind the EMP product is sound, but another 150 bucks is steep.

We still have our Kingspan air cell, maybe some cheaper matting would do the trick?

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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #62 on: August 11, 2011, 02:38:39 PM »
So these people getting moisture and stuff under their beds, I wonder if it would be any different if the stuff was put inside the trailer on the section below the bed instead?

Just tryin to work out options :)

I still think maybe a good quality blanket under the matress may work.
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Re: How to stop the cold?
« Reply #64 on: November 02, 2011, 11:11:57 AM »
I have been having the same issue. The under side of our mattress becoming wet. From what i have found out it only happens with a foam mattress because they retain the moisture we expel during the night. Innersprung mattress is better vented and does not retain the moisture.

I have put a layer of EMP mesh under the mattress which has stopped this moisture forming. Found it on a boating website. Apparently it is a big issue for boats. Link to the site I got it from.

http://www.empind.com.au/cat/index.cgi/shopfront/view_product_details?category_id=9794&product_id=302427


Does any one know if the above  emp mesh is the same as the mesh advertised on the ultimate camper web site
as an option for $330
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