Post by: gronk on July 26, 2020, 04:17:06 PM
Question is.....I've ordered an adapter cable ..sata to usb...can the hard drive I've taken out be easily accessed by my other laptop so I can transfer all my photos ? Will it see the hard drive just like an ordinary external hard drive ?
Post by: D4D on July 26, 2020, 04:52:50 PM
Question is.....I've ordered an adapter cable ..sata to usb...can the hard drive I've taken out be easily accessed by my other laptop so I can transfer all my photos ? Will it see the hard drive just like an ordinary external hard drive ?
Is should as long as you didn't encrypt it. I'd go to a computer store and get a caddy/case for it and install it in that.
Post by: Bad Scott on July 26, 2020, 04:58:42 PM
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Post by: gronk on July 26, 2020, 05:24:24 PM
You know the rules. Thread is worthless without pics
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Ha ha...looks surprisingly normal to look at, but screen is cracked all over and the case is splitting at the seams. A photo won't show much ?
Post by: gronk on July 26, 2020, 05:27:04 PM
Is should as long as you didn't encrypt it. I'd go to a computer store and get a caddy/case for it and install it in that.
Is that so I can use it after removing the files I want ?
No, I didn't encrypt it...not even sure what it means let alone know how to do it ? ;D
Post by: Bad Scott on July 26, 2020, 05:29:07 PM
Ha ha...looks surprisingly normal to look at, but screen is cracked all over and the case is splitting at the seams. A photo won't show much ?Gumtree it
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Post by: D4D on July 26, 2020, 05:31:15 PM
Is that so I can use it after removing the files I want ?
Yup, you can put it in a case and then plug it in via USB to any computer.
https://www.centrecom.com.au/orico-25-usb30-hard-drive-enclosure-black (https://www.centrecom.com.au/orico-25-usb30-hard-drive-enclosure-black)
Post by: gronk on July 26, 2020, 05:46:52 PM
Yup, you can put it in a case and then plug it in via USB to any computer.
https://www.centrecom.com.au/orico-25-usb30-hard-drive-enclosure-black (https://www.centrecom.com.au/orico-25-usb30-hard-drive-enclosure-black)
I've got an external hard drive....even has most of my photos on it...but been slack and haven't added approx the last 2 yrs worth.
Post by: D4D on July 26, 2020, 05:54:59 PM
I've got an external hard drive....even has most of my photos on it...but been slack and haven't added approx the last 2 yrs worth.
$20-30 investment for the convenience of plugging it in whenever you like in case you forget/remember other files you need.
Post by: gronk on July 26, 2020, 06:09:49 PM
$20-30 investment for the convenience of plugging it in whenever you like in case you forget/remember other files you need.
Yeh, good point. If it downloads OK I might then buy a case....then I'll have 2 drives !!
Post by: Hairs on July 26, 2020, 06:17:42 PM
;)
Post by: gronk on July 26, 2020, 06:38:22 PM
How much Porn did you lose Greg
;)
Ha ha...none...I don't download that sort of stuff. Might watch it but don't download it !! ;D
Photos is the only thing I can think of that's important !
Spent most of today personalising the other win10 laptop up to standard. Passwords etc etc....still don't like the ease of use of it....or lack of !
Post by: Hairs on July 26, 2020, 06:45:51 PM
I've used an external HD for years, connected to my router so all devices can be backed up and stuff can be accessed as long as I have internet connection.
When it comes to the Tablet and Phone(Samsung) they are set to backup automatically to My website and cloud.
It's a bugger of a lesson to learn, I lost a ton of stuff a few years back, even back up my website every month.
Hope you get it all sorted.
Post by: Fizzie on July 27, 2020, 08:33:13 AM
but screen is cracked all over
Gave the young bloke my notebook to take to school a number of years ago ::)
He swears black & blue he didn't do anything, but within a week it came home like this :'(
We assume it was sitting in his pack & somebody either kicked it or sat on it :'( >:(
Was able to get the screen replaced OK though, so it's now a go away unit, rather than taking a full-size laptop.
This photo is also now the desktop background ;D
Post by: gronk on July 27, 2020, 09:56:52 PM
Printer worked fine with win7, even though I was only running one cartridge ( black)....but no, not with win10....says it has no ink ? Maybe it sees the other empty cartridge space and doesn't want to play ?
Win10 has done an update this arvo and the mouse works fine but the trackpad has gone haywire ?
Post by: SimpleSi on July 28, 2020, 11:11:06 AM
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I've ordered an adapter cable ..sata to usbThat should do the job. You don't necessarily need an enclosure as D4D suggests.
Post by: gronk on July 28, 2020, 02:14:55 PM
That should do the job. You don't necessarily need an enclosure as D4D suggests.
I've got it in a small glad bag atm, after downloading the photos, it might stay in the bag yet !
Post by: #jonesy on July 28, 2020, 07:07:16 PM
Win10 has done an update this arvo and the mouse works fine but the trackpad has gone haywire ?My laptop also did wierd things on Windows 10. Took me a while to figure it was the driver for the trackpad. I installed older drivers and fixed the problem.
Post by: gronk on July 28, 2020, 09:54:39 PM
My laptop also did wierd things on Windows 10. Took me a while to figure it was the driver for the trackpad. I installed older drivers and fixed the problem.
Where did you get the older drivers from.?
Post by: corndog on July 28, 2020, 10:29:32 PM
I've got it in a small glad bag atm, after downloading the photos, it might stay in the bag yet !
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Not the best enclosure to be carrying or storing a device like a harddisk in.
Post by: gronk on July 28, 2020, 10:46:12 PM
I've got it in a small glad bag atm, after downloading the photos, it might stay in the bag yet !
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Not the best enclosure to be carrying or storing a device like a harddisk in.
Nah, probably not, but when/if I get my photos off it, I may not care too much !! 8)
Post by: #jonesy on July 29, 2020, 02:20:11 PM
Where did you get the older drivers from.?
I just googled them. It was a while ago and like normal I forgot to write it down somewhere.
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 04:24:28 PM
Are my 1,000's of pictures still there or have they somehow not been saved to the hard drive ?
Post by: paceman on August 12, 2020, 04:32:23 PM
OK all you smarter people than me....I have hooked up the old hard drive out of my stuffed laptop, but it doesn't show any picture folder.Might be under a user profile folder...
Are my 1,000's of pictures still there or have they somehow not been saved to the hard drive ?
Try just searching for *.jpg on that drive and see what comes up...
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Post by: Bird on August 12, 2020, 04:42:50 PM
where exactly are you looking?
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 04:42:58 PM
Might be under a user profile folder...
Try just searching for *.jpg on that drive and see what comes up...
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Tried that...came up with a heap of images....mainly different colours etc...maybe background effects or something ?
Post by: paceman on August 12, 2020, 04:45:12 PM
have you run a check on the harddrive itself? is it full of bad sectors?+1...
where exactly are you looking?
I would checking if the drive itself is still ok... may be the cause of the laptop issues...
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Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 04:45:54 PM
have you run a check on the harddrive itself? is it full of bad sectors?
where exactly are you looking?
Ha ha..don't get too technical mate....I hooked it up with an adaptor cable, the hard drive is spinning, it comes up as local disk (F) and shows a few folders on the screen....that's about my ability gone there !!
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 04:47:41 PM
+1...
I would checking if the drive itself is still ok... may be the cause of the laptop issues...
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The laptop fell from a great height and smashed itself up a bit.....the hard drive spins and comes up as previous post....and I can open the folders that are shown, but no pic folder ?
Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 04:51:32 PM
Can you see a 'users' folder under the root folder?
If so go into that and see if there is a folder with your username.
If so go into that and you should see a 'pictures' folder.
That folder should have your pictures.
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 04:58:55 PM
Assuming Win10 and you saved your pics to your profile pictures folder.
Can you see a 'users' folder under the root folder?
If so go into that and see if there is a folder with your username.
If so go into that and you should see a 'pictures' folder.
That folder should have your pictures.
My old smashed laptop was win7 and I have plugged the hard drive into my newer laptop win10 !
I have a users folder...just trying to access the "owner" part of it.
Post by: Bird on August 12, 2020, 05:31:50 PM
users
your username
then see pcitures folder in there ??? if not you maybe in poo
edit: also this shouldnt make a difference but it may - select SHOW HIDDEN FILES AND FOLDERS.
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Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 05:46:10 PM
Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 05:51:10 PM
I've got F drive..I've got a users folder, but not my username ??What folders are in there?
Post by: Bird on August 12, 2020, 05:56:06 PM
What folders are in there?x2
post up a screen shot of what you see.
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 05:58:00 PM
Thanks very much.
I will now backup the 2 yrs of pics that I didn't add to the hard drive I have all the other pics on. When I do that, can I format this "old" hard drive and use it for a 2nd backup ??
Post by: Bird on August 12, 2020, 05:58:46 PM
You're a genius Bird...show hidden files and the pictures and a few other folders appeared ..kewlies... it worked thats all that matters
Thanks very much.
I will now backup the 2 yrs of pics that I didn't add to the hard drive I have all the other pics on. When I do that, can I format this "old" hard drive and use it for a 2nd backup ??
FWIW - you should look into some online backup like amazon - costs a schooner to upload and never have a worry again
Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 06:05:33 PM
You're a genius Bird...show hidden files and the pictures and a few other folders appeared ..
Thanks very much.
I will now backup the 2 yrs of pics that I didn't add to the hard drive I have all the other pics on. When I do that, can I format this "old" hard drive and use it for a 2nd backup ??
The old hidden files attribute gotcha :)
I wouldn't backup to spinning rust. As Bird says store it in the 'cloud', try OneDrive on your Win10 if you want the most user friendly option.
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 06:09:18 PM
The old hidden files attribute gotcha :)
I wouldn't backup to spinning rust. As Bird says store it in the 'cloud', try OneDrive on your Win10 if you want the most user friendly option.
I have 100Gb of pics...one drive only let you have 5Gb..
Post by: Bird on August 12, 2020, 06:11:30 PM
I have 100Gb of pics...one drive only let you have 5Gb..https://au.pcmag.com/file-syncing-and-backup-1/9603/the-best-online-backup-services-for-2020 (https://au.pcmag.com/file-syncing-and-backup-1/9603/the-best-online-backup-services-for-2020)
Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 06:12:25 PM
I have 100Gb of pics...one drive only let you have 5Gb..OneDrive for 100Gb is $3/month
https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/microsoft-365/onedrive/compare-onedrive-plans (https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/microsoft-365/onedrive/compare-onedrive-plans)
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 06:22:38 PM
If I store them on 2 seperate hard drives...plus the laptop....I should be alright ?? ;D
Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 06:29:28 PM
What...pay money to store photos ??? Against my religion... ;D
If I store them on 2 seperate hard drives...plus the laptop....I should be alright ?? ;D
Small price to pay for an offsite backup. How much are your photos worth to you?
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 06:38:58 PM
Small price to pay for an offsite backup. How much are your photos worth to you?
Ha ha....2 hard drives compared to one big one in USA somewhere. How safe or secure are cloud hard drives ??
Post by: paceman on August 12, 2020, 06:49:06 PM
Ha ha....2 hard drives compared to one big one in USA somewhere. How safe or secure are cloud hard drives ??So, happy to trust a non-trustworthy drive, instead of a safe and secure cloud storage solution?
Good luck with that.
I’d trust OneDrive storage over any hardware drive, particularly a mechanical HDD...
Standard methods for back ups should be two separate local, onsite copies and one separate offsite copy.
Photos are not something to skimp on storage with... can never get them back.
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Post by: Bird on August 12, 2020, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: gronk
Ha ha....2 hard drives compared to one big one in USA somewhere. How safe or secure are cloud hard drives ??Thats 1982 thinking right there... they arent using 40meg drives anymore.
why you think all business are using cloud storage these days :)
Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 06:58:24 PM
Ha ha....2 hard drives compared to one big one in USA somewhere. How safe or secure are cloud hard drives ??
It's actually a logical not a physical drive. There are many layers of redundancy built into the system, it's not just one copy.
Post by: lloydus67 on August 12, 2020, 07:17:09 PM
Ha ha....2 hard drives compared to one big one in USA somewhere. How safe or secure are cloud hard drives ??Chances of 2 drives Fukien up on same day, slim, unless say your house burns down in a bushfire or something dramatic like that.
How safe or secure are clouds. Unless you are worried that your explicit photos are able to be viewed by some 3rd party? It’s more about you being able to one day access those valuable memories should the worst happen to your other copies
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Post by: paceman on August 12, 2020, 07:30:16 PM
Chances of 2 drives Fukien up on same day, slim, unless say your house burns down in a bushfire or something dramatic like that.Slim, yes... but plenty of things can knock out two local drives at once...
How safe or secure are clouds. Unless you are worried that your explicit photos are able to be viewed by some 3rd party? It’s more about you being able to one day access those valuable memories should the worst happen to your other copies
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Power spikes or sudden blackouts
Drives bought from the same faulty batch
Buggy automatic firmware upgrades
Computer being bumped
Insect or rodent issues
Software issues on NAS or PC where they are installed
Malware locking access to drives
For a very small outlay, why take the risk... ?
Storage is cheap nowadays. I would be gutted if I lost all my photos because I was a tightarse or wore my tin foil hat too tightly.
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Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 07:41:44 PM
How safe or secure are clouds. Unless you are worried that your explicit photos are able to be viewed by some 3rd party?
Cloud storage is typically encrypted at rest with a user key that only you know to prevent 3rd party access. Data is also striped across many physical drives so impossible for somebody to 'walk out' of the datacenter with the drive of your 'personal' pics.
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 07:44:33 PM
Chances of 2 drives Fukien up on same day, slim, unless say your house burns down in a bushfire or something dramatic like that.
How safe or secure are clouds. Unless you are worried that your explicit photos are able to be viewed by some 3rd party? It’s more about you being able to one day access those valuable memories should the worst happen to your other copies
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Yeh, no explicit photos...not of me anyway !! Or the wife !! ;D ;D
I filled up onedrive yrs ago with a windows phone I had....don't even know if or how to access it anymore, or if they're still there ?
I'll probably have to jump into the 22nd century and upload the pics !! ;D
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 07:47:43 PM
Slim, yes... but plenty of things can knock out two local drives at once...
Power spikes or sudden blackouts
Drives bought from the same faulty batch
Buggy automatic firmware upgrades
Computer being bumped
Insect or rodent issues
Software issues on NAS or PC where they are installed
Malware locking access to drives
For a very small outlay, why take the risk... ?
Storage is cheap nowadays. I would be gutted if I lost all my photos because I was a tightarse or wore my tin foil hat too tightly.
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I thought it would be pretty slim ( or almost impossible ) for any of that to happen to 2 hard drives sitting in a drawer that would only get powered to upload a few photos once a year !!
Post by: paceman on August 12, 2020, 07:51:55 PM
I thought it would be pretty slim ( or almost impossible ) for any of that to happen to 2 hard drives sitting in a drawer that would only get powered to upload a few photos once a year !!Not a great thing to do with drives either, to be honest... drives are designed to be used and random handling can cause its own issues...
But hey, do what you want... we’ve tried to offer advice on a cheap, reliable and relatively easy option for backups...
In the end, they’re your photos...
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Post by: D4D on August 12, 2020, 07:52:29 PM
I thought it would be pretty slim ( or almost impossible ) for any of that to happen to 2 hard drives sitting in a drawer that would only get powered to upload a few photos once a year !!
More the chance of the motors/integrated circuits failing due to lack of use. Also the drives can degauss over time as they are not an archival media.
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 08:40:24 PM
But hey, do what you want... we’ve tried to offer advice on a cheap, reliable and relatively easy option for backups...
In the end, they’re your photos...
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I'm waiting for a REALLY cheap solution !! ;D
It'll take me weeks to procrastinate over who is better and cheapest ??
Post by: Onion on August 12, 2020, 09:19:16 PM
Post by: gronk on August 12, 2020, 09:36:15 PM
Really cheap, Amazon Glacier. It's more cold storage because it can take a while to get the data out, but it's cheap...
Sounds OK....wouldn't matter if it took a day to get stuff out. How long do you mean ?
Post by: Onion on August 13, 2020, 07:07:42 AM
https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/
Post by: Bird on August 13, 2020, 09:53:47 AM
Quote from: Onion
$1US / Terabyte / month.
https://aws.amazon.com/glacier/
Hes waiting for a REALLY cheap solution :P
Post by: Kangaron on August 13, 2020, 11:34:20 AM
Post by: Fizzie on August 13, 2020, 01:11:05 PM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/github-code-vault-in-artic-svalbard-safeguards-against-calamity/12517948 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-13/github-code-vault-in-artic-svalbard-safeguards-against-calamity/12517948)
Post by: gronk on August 13, 2020, 06:21:34 PM
Hes waiting for a REALLY cheap solution :P
Mate, seeing as nothing is for free these days....I suppose $1 /mth isn't too bad !! ;D
Post by: paceman on August 13, 2020, 07:04:57 PM
Mate, seeing as nothing is for free these days....I suppose $1 /mth isn't too bad !! ;DThat’s just for the storage...
If you ever need to recover files, it will cost you...
Might need to do a bit more research as to a suitable solution...
Things like Glacier and Backblaze usually require separate client software to allow files to be uploaded to the cloud, or specific scripting time be written.
For your scenario, I’d be looking at OneDrive or Google Drive...
Easy to setup and troubleshoot, if necessary...
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Post by: gronk on August 13, 2020, 07:20:36 PM
That’s just for the storage...
If you ever need to recover files, it will cost you...
Might need to do a bit more research as to a suitable solution...
Things like Glacier and Backblaze usually require separate client software to allow files to be uploaded to the cloud, or specific scripting time be written.
For your scenario, I’d be looking at OneDrive or Google Drive...
Easy to setup and troubleshoot, if necessary...
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Yeh, you lost me with the computer lingo....the simple solution sounds best !!
Post by: gronk on October 14, 2020, 07:15:15 PM
I've googled it weeks ago and entered the netplwiz in the box and unticked the sign in required box ( it was already unticked , but I ticked it and unticked it ).
Sometimes it doesn't ask for a password, but lately it does ....checked the netplwiz stuff and still unticked.
Has anybody got their win10 NOT asking for a password, and what did you do to make it perform like a "normal" computer ?
Post by: paceman on October 14, 2020, 08:54:41 PM
Has anybody got their win10 NOT asking for a password, and what did you do to make it perform like a "normal" computer ?
Set mine up when I built it years ago to not ask for a password and it hasn’t asked for one since...
Can you actually log in with a password?
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Post by: gronk on October 14, 2020, 09:30:09 PM
Set mine up when I built it years ago to not ask for a password and it hasn’t asked for one since...
Can you actually log in with a password?
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Yep, I have to . When I 1st installed win10 it never asked for a password. Then a month or so ago, it asked for a password. I unticked the box, and it stopped it. Now it's asking every time I start the computer, even though I've supposedly told it not to ?
Some people may think it's a minor inconvenience, but I think it's a pain in the ar*e !!
Post by: xcvator on October 15, 2020, 12:28:31 AM
Post by: paceman on October 15, 2020, 07:01:15 AM
could be an issue with the current security token...
disclaimer: please remember to record your passwords that you change, both old and new... not responsible for a non-accessible laptop... :)
Post by: Troopy_03 on October 15, 2020, 12:41:55 PM
Has anybody got their win10 NOT asking for a password, and what did you do to make it perform like a "normal" computer ?
Normal?.... Big ask on win10 LOL..
Post by: paceman on October 15, 2020, 01:46:35 PM
Normal?.... Big ask on win10 LOL..
if my 75yo mum can use windows 10 without issues, then 'normal' is eminently achievable... ;D
Post by: lloydus67 on October 15, 2020, 02:06:36 PM
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Post by: Bird on October 15, 2020, 02:22:07 PM
might be worthwhile changing your password and then trying the netplwiz option again...https://www.useapassphrase.com/ (https://www.useapassphrase.com/)
could be an issue with the current security token...
disclaimer: please remember to record your passwords that you change, both old and new... not responsible for a non-accessible laptop... :)
Post by: gronk on October 15, 2020, 05:49:30 PM
https://www.useapassphrase.com/ (https://www.useapassphrase.com/)
Ha ha...I haven't got any issues with the password being hacked etc...I'm just trying to have no password..
Post by: Troopy_03 on October 16, 2020, 08:31:32 AM
if my 75yo mum can use windows 10 without issues, then 'normal' is eminently achievable... ;D
I'm not saying it's not usable, it's just such a PITA. I use win10, win7 and Linux MInt 19.3.. Any time I want to do something with as little hassle as possible, I always go to the Mint laptop. And If I absolutely need to use windows, I use Win7 Ultimate, running as a virtual machine on the Linux Laptop, Win 10 only does two jobs that I can't do using Linux or Win7 (easily).
Post by: paceman on October 16, 2020, 08:37:19 AM
I'm not saying it's not usable, it's just such a PITA. I use win10, win7 and Linux MInt 19.3.. Any time I want to do something with as little hassle as possible, I always go to the Mint laptop. And If I absolutely need to use windows, I use Win7 Ultimate, running as a virtual machine on the Linux Laptop, Win 10 only does two jobs that I can't do using Linux or Win7 (easily).
that's fair, but i have a completely different experience with Windows 10.
every OS has it's issues.
but back to the issue at hand....
Post by: gronk on October 16, 2020, 02:25:30 PM