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Title: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Mitch92 on February 25, 2016, 12:05:35 PM
Gday

Chasing it can't find the thread I've seen of someone who had a fridge that slides out of the tailgate of the camper, then pivots 90 degrees to be perpendicular to the trailer. I hope that makes sense, tried searching but can't find it
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Hefty on February 25, 2016, 12:50:31 PM
I had one in my old camper. It was a Camel Beachcomber. I'm pretty sure Camel sell them as a retro-fit? Or you can also buy all the parts you need to make one from https://www.ovesco.com.au/ (https://www.ovesco.com.au/) . I built a set of storage drawers to fit on mine because my fridge was too tall to fit in the camper.
I had it in the camper classifieds on here last year some time but I just checked and the ad has been removed after being marked sold.

Sorry I can't be of much more help.
Cheers,
Jono.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Hefty on February 25, 2016, 01:09:14 PM
Or was it this thread?
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=45229.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=45229.0)
Just stumbled across it in the "my camper build" section.

cheers,
Jono.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on February 25, 2016, 01:35:59 PM
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=31265.25 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=31265.25)
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Liege on February 25, 2016, 02:51:19 PM
I didn't click on the links above to check what they showed. But I have a new camel beachcomber with slide and 90 degree pivot in it. THe trailer is new and only been used for one night so far so I have no photos handy. I could go and get you some if you need me to.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: feisty on February 25, 2016, 04:36:50 PM
Dunn and Watson do one.

https://youtu.be/UnJtdpELNZ0
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Mitch92 on February 25, 2016, 05:04:19 PM
I didn't click on the links above to check what they showed. But I have a new camel beachcomber with slide and 90 degree pivot in it. THe trailer is new and only been used for one night so far so I have no photos handy. I could go and get you some if you need me to.

Liege, mate that would be greatly appreciated, as the more pics the better the idea I'll have.

And thanks guys, was exactly what I was after.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Liege on February 25, 2016, 06:25:53 PM
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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Mitch92 on February 25, 2016, 07:37:55 PM
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Thank you, that's exactly what I am wanting to do. Thanks for going to the effort of grabbing those pictures.

I'm looking to do it but with a kitchen not a fridge.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: mato on March 01, 2016, 06:47:40 PM
Woh
Thats a good idea. I like that
Also looks like it could be easly removeable.
Mitch i would love to see your build up

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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: deetee on March 03, 2016, 05:08:03 PM
MDC do one which I'm about to fit to my camper ( GIC Alpha ) $900. Might have to trim my drawer a tad to get it to fit but hey you gotta do what you gotta do. Looks the same as the pic s above.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: mato on March 03, 2016, 05:35:11 PM
Deetee
I would love to see some picturs if you doing the install?

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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Mitch92 on March 03, 2016, 08:39:54 PM
Woh
Thats a good idea. I like that
Also looks like it could be easly removeable.
Mitch i would love to see your build up

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Will definitely do pictures for you mate.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Redcans on March 05, 2016, 11:09:47 AM
thats exactly what im in the process of doing now, well in the planning stage ;D
Liege can i ask how they made the slide so it doesn't slide straight out the back of your trailer once you have pulled it out?
this is the only part i cant work out.
and do you think it will be important to have the fridge supported once it has pivoted 90 degrees?
i can't wait to do this to my Johnnos camper before the gibb in July 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: mato on March 05, 2016, 11:20:11 AM
I think a removable one would be a good one. But i wouldnt have too. But i would think a support would depend on how heavy it is. But still a goid idea i think

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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: tryagain on March 05, 2016, 12:22:11 PM
thats exactly what im in the process of doing now, well in the planning stage ;D
Liege can i ask how they made the slide so it doesn't slide straight out the back of your trailer once you have pulled it out?
this is the only part i cant work out.
and do you think it will be important to have the fridge supported once it has pivoted 90 degrees?
i can't wait to do this to my Johnnos camper before the gibb in July 8) 8) 8)

I am also in the planning and acquiring bits stages, am going to try and DIY the track part as well to keep the costs down but there will probably be a fair bit of trial and error involved, I like the idea of attaching some draws to the back section as well that come to the back of the trailer as the fridge comes out as well.

To stop it coming all the way out I were just thinking of a extra bit of steel protruding either  above or below the RHS section and removable bolt/pin/pad for it to catch against.   
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Redcans on March 05, 2016, 12:28:23 PM
Yep. I like the idea of the drawers behind the fridge too, unfortunately I don't have enough room with my cfx 50 :(
Going to be a fair bit of trial and error from me too. But that's half the fun, drinking beers building stuff. 
I
Your going to DIY the tracks too, that's pretty keen I reckon.  I like your lies for stopping it from sliding out. the KISS method is always the best!


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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: macca on March 05, 2016, 01:17:48 PM
Thank you, that's exactly what I am wanting to do. Thanks for going to the effort of grabbing those pictures.

I'm looking to do it but with a kitchen not a fridge.
Mitch, If your looking to do a slide and swing kitchen then look at how Aussie Swag do it, theirs is very well thought out

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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: mato on March 05, 2016, 01:34:01 PM
https://youtu.be/6F-3q04V7a4
Here you go

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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Mitch92 on March 05, 2016, 02:04:39 PM
Hard to see in that video how they actually do it, but looks good
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Liege on March 05, 2016, 06:19:30 PM
(https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xft1/v/t1.0-0/p206x206/12741942_10153574271524285_5402062351845613451_n.jpg?oh=32ef425ac35d2733784df5e0c4cc05a3&oe=5724B191&__gda__=1465799890_50b8ecf44922c1fc81bbb5f33c12f869)

They bolt a L brackt on top of the square runner frame, that hits the trailer before the runners exit the track. In this photo it is pretty much directly up from the cig lighter above the bolt.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: macca on March 05, 2016, 07:22:23 PM
They basically have a frame at the back of the kitchen unit that is on two heavy drawer slides, at the front right hand corner of the frame is a post for the hinges this is braced to the back, the front left hand side of the frame and also diagonally. This single post supports the whole kitchen while it is being pulled in and out, when in from memory the kitchen sits on nylon slides and when out and turned there is a support bracket on  the side of the camper. You can see the hinge at about the seven second point of the video.

Quick ruff as guts drawing



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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: tryagain on March 05, 2016, 08:59:59 PM
Your going to DIY the tracks too, that's pretty keen I reckon.


Not trying to reinvent the wheel, just trying to copy it as much as able with off the shelf bits
For the channel I am using this

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee228/Timandbecphillips/d41ed230-873c-475b-a181-eba8607878d0.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/Timandbecphillips/media/d41ed230-873c-475b-a181-eba8607878d0.jpg.html)

From here http://www.bunnings.com.au/matrix-1815-x-915-x-28mm-charcoal-c-channel-frame-kit_p3041120# (http://www.bunnings.com.au/matrix-1815-x-915-x-28mm-charcoal-c-channel-frame-kit_p3041120#)

And some of these (CF8/KR19)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee228/Timandbecphillips/_57_3.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/Timandbecphillips/media/_57_3.jpg.html)

From here http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/141741542061?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/141741542061?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

And one of these cut up to make"tyres" for the bearings

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee228/Timandbecphillips/c555a37e-68e6-4ed6-b607-6bd413f6309e.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/Timandbecphillips/media/c555a37e-68e6-4ed6-b607-6bd413f6309e.jpg.html)

From here http://www.bunnings.com.au/pope-16-x-70mm-clear-vinyl-tubing-joiner_p3130586 (http://www.bunnings.com.au/pope-16-x-70mm-clear-vinyl-tubing-joiner_p3130586)

It all seems to look like it should work (sliding bearings up and down the channel as I write this) but only time will tell. Ill either save myself $250 or cost myself $60 if I can't make it all work.



Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: tryagain on March 05, 2016, 09:31:35 PM
Liege are your tracks attached directly to the side or are the tracks attached to an extra frame, pictures I have seen it the past seem to have had some kind of extra frame but cant seem to see it on yours.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Liege on March 06, 2016, 06:29:28 AM
Liege are your tracks attached directly to the side or are the tracks attached to an extra frame, pictures I have seen it the past seem to have had some kind of extra frame but cant seem to see it on yours.

mine are directly to the side of the trailer
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: mato on March 06, 2016, 12:56:25 PM
Tryagain i like that idea with the tracks i did not know bunnings sold that
Very cool

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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: deetee on March 10, 2016, 10:34:17 PM
I went into the MDC showroom on the sunny coast and had a real good look at the fridge slide. Took my tape paper n pencil, did some measuring, took photos the whole nine yards. The guy didn't mind. I'd seen this slide at the camping show a few times. After a bit of navel gazing I decided to fork out the $900 as its a really well made and finished bit of kit, I'm a sheety by trade and I couldn't be bothered to make this when I can buy it. I know it's the old plumber had leaky taps, sparky has faulty lights story😊 haven't bought it yet as I'm still doing the 12v fit out. Probably a couple of months away yet. Probably next time I'm home, fifo worker.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: WomblingFree on March 12, 2016, 01:36:20 PM
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee228/Timandbecphillips/d41ed230-873c-475b-a181-eba8607878d0.jpg) (http://s233.photobucket.com/user/Timandbecphillips/media/d41ed230-873c-475b-a181-eba8607878d0.jpg.html)


Suggest you go buy one of the corners and hit it with something heavy to see how robust it is before you spend the big bucks..
They are only a very poor grade alloy and easily break just when being pounded into the tubes. Can't imagine it surviving long in a camper.

Also have a look at Altitude campers who do one. Thats what I'm copying for my Johnnos.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: tryagain on March 12, 2016, 02:54:29 PM
Suggest you go buy one of the corners and hit it with something heavy to see how robust it is before you spend the big bucks..
They are only a very poor grade alloy and easily break just when being pounded into the tubes. Can't imagine it surviving long in a camper.

Also have a look at Altitude campers who do one. Thats what I'm copying for my Johnnos.

Not planning on using the corners at all, just bought it for the steel track.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: WomblingFree on March 12, 2016, 03:09:04 PM
Ah, right. Thought it was speed frame.

Do your rollers need tyres to make up the track internal  size or you want low noise?
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: tryagain on March 12, 2016, 03:32:23 PM
Ah, right. Thought it was speed frame.

Do your rollers need tyres to make up the track internal  size or you want low noise?

Internal track size,otherwise it would just be the bolt sliding along the gap in the "C" channel and the bearing not touching. I think with the "tire" it should be just enough to avoid the bolt fowling but wont be able to be 100% sure until its all working with a load on it, I may need a slightly bigger overall diameter. Did you have any pics of the Altitude camper slide, I cant see too much detail on the images I could find with Google but am more than happy to take any of their good ideas they may have and incorporate it with what I have in mind.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: tryagain on March 12, 2016, 03:35:42 PM
mine are directly to the side of the trailer

Thanks, are they bolted or welded.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: myminirocks on March 12, 2016, 11:08:38 PM
I've been wanting one of these since the first time I saw one. Now I'm at the pointy end of making it happen.

Can I ask anyone who has one, be it MDC or Camel or DIY, how has it held up?

My concern is not if it can support the fridge weight when it has been pulled out and swung away, my concern is when it is put away and when you are driving on shocking roads. I worry about the curry aged ruts etc with the weight of the fridge being supported only by the wheels in the runners. 

Love to hear people's feed back.
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: Mitch92 on March 13, 2016, 05:20:06 AM
Gday

Mine is not yet built but will be picking up kitchen in two weeks.

I'm going to do mine so that as it slides in to the trailer it will have skids on the bottom to support its weight on that rather than the wheels (well both kind of)
Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: mato on March 13, 2016, 06:47:41 AM
Why not just make a drop down support that you can put down when packed up and when also in the trailer.

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Title: Re: Fridge slide, pivots 90 degrees help!
Post by: WomblingFree on March 13, 2016, 10:48:54 AM
Did you have any pics of the Altitude camper slide,

No, only the ones from their website but do a MySwag search for Altitude as I've seen pics somewhere from an owner showing quite a bit of it in the kitchen.
It uses the aluminium tracks from Ovesco and they have matching wheels - much bigger/stronger than the Bunnings thing but quite a bit more expensive as well.
https://www.ovesco.com.au/products.php?catname=Drawer%20Slides&cat=3&sub=72&subname=OCCO%20Track (https://www.ovesco.com.au/products.php?catname=Drawer%20Slides&cat=3&sub=72&subname=OCCO%20Track)

If you are able to read AutoCAD drawings then I can send you my designs. They are based on the size of a Weico 80L fridge but you can scale the whole thing if needed.Current design uses fabricated slides made from 20x20 hollow section but I'll be using the Ovesco tracks.