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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jakster1 on November 26, 2015, 04:40:42 PM
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https://www.finance.nsw.gov.au/about-us/media-releases/no-rust-bust-warning-re-car-rust-reduction-devices (https://www.finance.nsw.gov.au/about-us/media-releases/no-rust-bust-warning-re-car-rust-reduction-devices)
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Takes them a while to finally do something ....like years !!
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wow... I'm genuinely a bit shocked over this..
Looks like I have been conned after all...
I have a 6 pad Couplertec unit. I wonder what they are going to do now??
And its interesting how the car dealerships have to give out the refunds now; ... because I guess quite rightly the govt is saying that the dealerships etc "should have known better..."??
But what about the other snake oil promoters and sprukers #think 4wd Action etc#; why are they not made to cough hurt money as well???
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O' NO !!!!
I just Googled couplertec to put a link up - and got this....
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About bloody time. I have always known it was a load of $hite. The only thing they do is does it flatten your battery and lighten your wallet. I am not smart enough to debate the chemistry but I have read quite a few things from people that are experts in the field that have stated it is a load of who shot John. I know Symon has always discredited these companies.
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I hope there's a class action lawsuit, might be able to get a refund
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Well its 2015 and I'm really not surprised! We are being conned all the time these days!
Having said that....................
The good old days of making, building something to lasts is gone.............there's no profit in it!
I remember back in the early 80's, my Adidas 3 stripe lasted me 3 years! and thats after heavy abuse from wearing them day in, day out, kicking the footy around for a few hour s a day, running around and then growing out of them. They stopped making them.
My 1991 80 series has a sticker on it, its documented that it has been ERP. I live within a huge stone throw of the sea and the 80 is parked outside of a night time all the time. The gutters on my home are rusted to the point that they need replacing, my 10 year old pergola is made from steel which is powder coated and its rusted.
Yet my 1991 80 Series which has a sticker to prove it has been ERP, still has no rust!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mind boggling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They don't make them like they used too!
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About bloody time. I have always known it was a load of $hite. The only thing they do is does it flatten your battery and lighten your wallet. I am not smart enough to debate the chemistry but I have read quite a few things from people that are experts in the field that have stated it is a load of who shot John. I know Symon has always discredited these companies.
Maybe those of us who warned that electronic rust protection was a scam, will now get an apology from those who argued its merits. I won't hold me breath :D
KB
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Conditioned to be a throw away society for the sake of profits!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Aren't we all guilty of consumerism????
I just think its poor form of companies like those who make these items to willing rip people off.
Whatever happened to dignity?
Ah well at least my hi-clone is still saving me heaps of fuel. I can use it to pay for all these rip offs.............
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Not a total refund >:( of all units sold only those between 01/01/2011 - 31/12/2013. Wonder if that is meant to mean the ones outside of that time period work?
The Commissioner has accepted an undertaking from HPC and MotorOne
under which HPC and MotorOne will cease advertising and supplying the
CECI Units in Australia. Additionally, HPC and MotorOne are offering
consumers who have purchased a CECI Unit between 1 January 2011
and 31 December 2013 a refund of the purchase and installation costs.
Will be watching closely as i am one of the ones who have been conned
Rod
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Gee, l feel such a fool, wonder what they will say about my Hiclones !!
The old rule, if it sounds too good to be true ...........
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Wow !!
The sh#t is really going to hit the fan on this one.
Cheers
Rob
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All I can say is -
I TOLD YOU SO
That is all.
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If people want to believe stuff, then no amount of "advice" from others will make a difference..
Sometimes they have to learn the hard way !!
Really, when you go near a salesperson, as soon as their lips move you know it's gonna be sh*t that comes out !! ;D ;D
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All I can say is -
I TOLD YOU SO
That is all.
Hey Bud... I can't quite make out what ya saying -- can ya be a bit less subtle about it please...
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One was fitted to my defender when I brought it......it had plenty of rust in it when it was retired at the beginning of the year.....
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OMG..............next thing you're going to tell me is that speewa's PDFP's aren't real
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OMG..............next thing you're going to tell me is that speewa's PDFP's aren't real
The PDFP is at best "Perceived to be Real " & that's all you need to know . lts the perception you pay for in the end . As a side line the PDFP can be used as a pot hole if you need to jack up you rig to change a tyre . Just drive up to the edge & the jobs done . lts not Snake Oil Sales you know .
l reckon somebody is chucking Mud to try to get out of the payments , outstanding >:D :cheers:
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Yep, and there's no way the Bumble Bee should fly, according to current (pun) knowledge of aerodynamics.
Wow. All the people sucked in by Kangaroo Whistles, aerodynamic roof racks, what your 4wd can really do, tyres, chips, bling, innumerable "Fad" diets, energy drinks, reality shows, religion, ad infinitum.
So what's the big deal with this?
Steve
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And here I am believing that the hair re growth stuff I have been buying for my bald spots really worked. I am pretty sure I have had 3 new hairs grow and it's hard when I need to part them. ;D
Mark
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Something like this
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Something like this
Hutchie has a bigger mallet and its on wheels and speaks only one word. Exterminate
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And here I am believing that the hair re growth stuff I have been buying for my bald spots really worked. I am pretty sure I have had 3 new hairs grow and it's hard when I need to part them. ;D
Mark
What about that other cream you were using?? You know the one that guarantees 4" in 4 weeks? How'd that go? ;D
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Maybe those of us who warned that electronic rust protection was a scam, will now get an apology from those who argued its merits. I won't hold me breath :D
KB
It looks as though you already have an answer.
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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Not the " Flux Compasator " l got from Nigeria at a real good price >:D >:D
So all l have to believe in as real is ,,,,, Cold VB :cup: :cheers:
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Bugger ... All this just when I was about to re release the latest chinese platinum upgrade of the Peter Brock Energy Polariser ... :'(
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It looks as though you already have an answer.
The silence is deafening ;D
KB
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The silence is deafening ;D
KB
What??
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This is something that has always got me a bit confused. I've read lots of explanations, here & on other forums / sites explaining that there is no way that these systems can possibly work, but then you read something like this from Cruiser
My 1991 80 series has a sticker on it, its documented that it has been ERP. I live within a huge stone throw of the sea and the 80 is parked outside of a night time all the time. The gutters on my home are rusted to the point that they need replacing, my 10 year old pergola is made from steel which is powder coated and its rusted.
Yet my 1991 80 Series which has a sticker to prove it has been ERP, still has no rust!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Creek to Coast on TV here talk about Couplertec's version frequently & they always carry on about his (I think?) 80 series, which is 20+ years old, has spent it's whole life driving up & down beaches & so on, but doesn't have a skerrick of rust anywhere in it ???
Maybe it's just the 80 series & it's all down to Toyota doing something right (wrong? :D) in the factory?
So what will this ruling mean for Couplertec, ERPS & the other versions that are out there? Are they all gone, or will they "prove" that their version is different & it's the only true religion, oooops, sorry, system that actually works?
Edit: just read Cruiser's other thread, so maybe it is all down to the 80 series after all - but no others? :D
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This is something that has always got me a bit confused. I've read lots of explanations, here & on other forums / sites explaining that there is no way that these systems can possibly work, but then you read something like this from Cruiser
Creek to Coast on TV here talk about Couplertec's version frequently & they always carry on about his (I think?) 80 series, which is 20+ years old, has spent it's whole life driving up & down beaches & so on, but doesn't have a skerrick of rust anywhere in it ???
Maybe it's just the 80 series & it's all down to Toyota doing something right (wrong? :D) in the factory?
So what will this ruling mean for Couplertec, ERPS & the other versions that are out there? Are they all gone, or will they "prove" that their version is different & it's the only true religion, oooops, sorry, system that actually works?
Edit: just read Cruiser's other thread, so maybe it is all down to the 80 series after all - but no others? :D
When they say it has no rust, do they mean no rust that they can see? Or has every inch of the car been checked, inside panels, outside panels, between skins, inside chassis rails and cross members?
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Wel that's good news for me as I live in qld. I read the article and it seems only nsw and wa have a problem. ;D
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So all l have to believe in as real is ,,,,, Cold VB :cup: :cheers:
Sorry mate, but if you've been thinking all these years that VB is a real beer, you have been mislead..... ;D ;D
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Sorry mate, but if you've been thinking all these years that VB is a real beer, you have been mislead..... ;D ;D
:cup:
:cheers: - with real beer!
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When they say it has no rust, do they mean no rust that they can see? Or has every inch of the car been checked, inside panels, outside panels, between skins, inside chassis rails and cross members?
Yeah, who would know?
Certainly the outside view you see on TV (in other words, what they want to show you!) looks good, & the reporter says it in great shape, but ???
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All I can say is -
I TOLD YOU SO
That is all.
:cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
If people want to believe stuff, then no amount of "advice" from others will make a difference..
BINGO! People ask a question - 50 people try and warn them, then 1 person says *MAYBE* and they thank that 1 person, and say IM DOING IT... why bother asking the question?? If you just want someone to say YES GREAT IDEA - then ask someone to say that.. don't waste peoples time!
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i have the erps system on the 2002 hilux (was installed from new by original owner)(ex dpi vehicle in gympie area)
was all good until about 3 years ago when it stopped working.
have now replaced the rusted out drivers side sill (but it was full of sand, was missing a bung from behind the sill )
do they work, no idea
:cheers:
Adam
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BINGO! People ask a question - 50 people try and warn them, then 1 person says *MAYBE* and they thank that 1 person, and say IM DOING IT... why bother asking the question?? If you just want someone to say YES GREAT IDEA - then ask someone to say that.. don't waste peoples time!
:cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
KB
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I'm surprised people thought these things work. Debating the chemistry is probably over the heads of most people but there is one big clue that a lot of people miss. The car manufactures themselves spend millions of dollars trying to stop the cars they make from rusting and yet they don't use these electronic rust preventers. Maybe that's a big hint that they don't work.
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I'm surprised people thought these things work. Debating the chemistry is probably over the heads of most people but there is one big clue that a lot of people miss. The car manufactures themselves spend millions of dollars trying to stop the cars they make from rusting and yet they don't use these electronic rust preventers. Maybe that's a big hint that they don't work.
Bingo :cup:
KB
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I'm surprised people thought these things work. Debating the chemistry is probably over the heads of most people but there is one big clue that a lot of people miss. The car manufactures themselves spend millions of dollars trying to stop the cars they make from rusting and yet they don't use these electronic rust preventers. Maybe that's a big hint that they don't work.
Pardon my cynicism but wouldn't that fly in the face of "Manufacturing Obsolescence"?
Steve
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When my missus got her Hyundai 4 years ago through a notated lease, we discovered one of these fitted to the car. Wasn't an option and certainly wasn't something we asked them to fit. I think the leasing company just fitted them as par for the course.
Issue is we probably paid for it...!
I might go back to these clowns and tell em I want the money back...! Don't like my chances though.
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The car manufactures themselves spend millions of dollars trying to stop the cars they make from rusting
they do???
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they do???
No, they never have......
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I'm surprised people thought these things work. Debating the chemistry is probably over the heads of most people but there is one big clue that a lot of people miss. The car manufactures themselves spend millions of dollars trying to stop the cars they make from rusting and yet they don't use these electronic rust preventers. Maybe that's a big hint that they don't work.
I'm also amazed anyone ever thought they worked.
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Sorry mate, but if you've been thinking all these years that VB is a real beer, you have been mislead..... ;D ;D
That coming for you & knowing where you live ,l feel vindicated .So l will stick the VeryBest Beer :cup: :cheers:
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If I'm not mistaken there was a case a number of years back, in which one of our local beach fisherman ended up with one very rusty 79 series type new cruiser.
From memory he got a new toyota out of the nationaly known electronic rust protection mob ... Seems it pays to be a poster child for them to use you for promoting their product in magazines etc .. ;D
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Sorry mate, but if you've been thinking all these years that VB is a real beer, you have been mislead..... ;D ;D
Yep, this man knows the truth! :angel: :cheers:
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Pardon my cynicism but wouldn't that fly in the face of "Manufacturing Obsolescence"?
Steve
Not really, there is a minimum amount of time that the vehicle has to last. If you take the case of fleet vehicles this is usually 3-5 years, so there has to be at least some effort to preventing rust. Also consider warranty periods of 5 years are more common these days.
I'm also amazed anyone ever thought they worked.
Not just thought they worked, some even mocked and belittled those who tried to explain the error in their beliefs.
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That coming for you & knowing where you live ,l feel vindicated .So l will stick the VeryBest Beer :cup: :cheers:
Ha ha.....I can only feel sorry for you mexicans that drink that stuff....about the only thing good about it is it's slightly better than your other state beer.........Fosters !!! ;D ;D ;D
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At the risk of being declared a cynic, don't forget that this report is put out by the Government.
The same people who miss out on the taxes and duties for every car sold that replaces rusted out old cars. Why would they do that?
It's bit like a dentist saying "Use X brand toothpaste, it will save you from cavities". However, all it consists of is a mint smelling abrasive that wears your teeth out, so you have to go to the dentist (the same bastards that told you to use it) to get caps or false teeth. Bloody hypocrites.
Put electronic rust preventative systems on the car and never have rust again. This way all you need to do is replace the worn out parts, or in the case of Jeeps, every part, and the Government can't waste your money on brothels, interstate travel to Lesbian weddings and the like.
Next thing they will do is try and prove that Brockies early model Hyclones don't work.
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Not really, there is a minimum amount of time that the vehicle has to last. If you take the case of fleet vehicles this is usually 3-5 years, so there has to be at least some effort to preventing rust. Also consider warranty periods of 5 years are more common these days.
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I have mates who turn over there 4WD's every 2 years for work reasons and these guys have been known to frequently drive in salt water because they know the car isn't going to rust in the 2 year period.
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Next thing they will do is try and prove that Brockies early model Hyclones don't work.
Polarizers?
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Polarizers?
hyclones are the sports model of the polarizer.
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hyclones are the sports model of the polarizer.
Hsv version? Hyclone special vehicle
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At the risk of being declared a cynic, don't forget that this report is put out by the Government.
The same people who miss out on the taxes and duties for every car sold that replaces rusted out old cars. Why would they do that?
It's bit like a dentist saying "Use X brand toothpaste, it will save you from cavities". However, all it consists of is a mint smelling abrasive that wears your teeth out, so you have to go to the dentist (the same bastards that told you to use it) to get caps or false teeth. Bloody hypocrites.
Put electronic rust preventative systems on the car and never have rust again. This way all you need to do is replace the worn out parts, or in the case of Jeeps, every part, and the Government can't waste your money on brothels, interstate travel to Lesbian weddings and the like.
Next thing they will do is try and prove that Brockies early model Hyclones don't work.
Bahahahahahahaha. There's no risk mate ;D
KB
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At the risk of being declared a cynic, don't forget that this report is put out by the Government.
The same people who miss out on the taxes and duties for every car sold that replaces rusted out old cars. Why would they do that?
It's bit like a dentist saying "Use X brand toothpaste, it will save you from cavities". However, all it consists of is a mint smelling abrasive that wears your teeth out, so you have to go to the dentist (the same bastards that told you to use it) to get caps or false teeth. Bloody hypocrites.
Put electronic rust preventative systems on the car and never have rust again. This way all you need to do is replace the worn out parts, or in the case of Jeeps, every part, and the Government can't waste your money on brothels, interstate travel to Lesbian weddings and the like.
Next thing they will do is try and prove that Brockies early model Hyclones don't work.
Don't worry, tin foil hats will never be banned by the government.
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Don't worry, tin foil hats will never be banned by the government.
Thank fk! One less thing for me too worry about. 👹
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I'm confused
Does this mean I won't be able to get an effective ERPS for my new Mux that is garaged 60km from the ocean
I hope it doesn't start to rust prematurely
I also hope the makers of these ERPS can find another system for me to buy as I do not want my pride and joy to rust
Maybe I should see if they are selling any of these cheap
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Obviously my totally redundant Couplertec system works... "PERFECTLY" for me....
That is provided I religiously, -- (I recall someone using that word recently); .... send the truck in annually for a tickle and a touch up -- (which I actually do; lol).... for a generous under spray top up with the black stuff.....
LOL
Shake&Bake BB
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Since when did modern cars rust like the old bangers in the sixties and seventies? Sweet Jesus when they watered the dirt roads up at Gove with salt water to keep the dust down in the Dry and then the mud packed up under them in the Wet, we were making stock cars out of them within 2 years. I haven't seen a rusty car on the road for years the way they put em together nowadays. You blokes with the extra protection are all suckers for the Ming Moll's big ti...err eyelashes and you deserve to be parted from yer hard earned. Compensation my eye. Fools and their money deserve to be parted.
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Since when did modern cars rust like the old bangers ... I haven't seen a rusty car on the road for years the way they put em together nowadays.
You not live close to the ocean then Prod, either that or its the combination of salt air and humidity up here causes the Dreaded Tin worm to go to work .. plenty of later model rusties up here .
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Hutchie has a bigger mallet and its on wheels and speaks only one word. Exterminate
Sorry I miss read I thought you said Hutchcy has a Big mullet. :)
Swannie
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Classic stuff
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Catholic protection works, if only your 4B spent 100% of its time in water
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Catholic protection works, if only your 4B spent 100% of its time in water
Catholic protection? Is that were the Pope prays over your vehicle to stop it rusting? ;D
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Autocorrect, ya gotta love it.
ERP in the popemobile!
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Catholic protection works, if only your 4B spent 100% of its time in water
Mate that gave me a good laugh especially with your user name. Love that autocorrect ;D
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Just saw this on another forum:
"Couplertec which is one of the bigger names in the business reckon their devices are based on different science/methods to the ones currently being debunked."
So, trust us, it will work! >:D
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Soooo.....!!!! i bought a CAT111 electronic rust system !!!!! It appears i'v been sucked in...is this true ??
Cheers Tracker.
??? ??? ???
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My Tug, which I call "Rusty", is an example of a bolt on system that does not work.
The panel sections that had the spray on prevention products applied are good, the parts without it are gone.
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Soooo.....!!!! i bought a CAT111 electronic rust system !!!!! It appears i'v been sucked in...is this true ??
Cheers Tracker.
??? ??? ???
I had to look up this system......I got 1/2 way through the 1st paragraph.......excess electrons....the paint is important to stop these electrons from dissipating and being lost .....blah, blah, blah !!!!
Have a read of this stuff....it seems like they actually believe the crap they wrote !!
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It comes at no real surprise that so many people can be so wrong.
This particular discussion quotes Science, Politicians, and a shi busload of detractors about ERPS.
Well, YOU MUST BE WRONG.
Mr 4x4, Pat himself, has ERPS in his newish VW Amarok, and after viewing his trip in the Simpson Desert onto Alice, I did not see much rust at all.
That settles it........it must work, now to go and buy a few. If one works well, just how good would three or four do?
Get in quick before they sell out because I can almost see these wrapped up in Chrissie paper and sitting under the Chrissie tree for all 4x4 drivers.
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As I've said before in related threads I am mostly disappointed that the major "trustworthy" organisations such as ARB and Creek-to-Coast are promoting and selling these things as if they worked. Did they just believe the Couplertec dude when he walked into their shop to spruik his product? Why no check of the independent testing done on these devices? Oh that's right, there isn't any independent testing.
A lot of people will have wasted their money on these devices because ARB was selling them so I hope ARB and Creek-to-Coast(Channel 7 qld) and similar major organisations help out if/when it comes to a refund situation.
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At least my "RainAway" electronic precipitation device works ok.
Ask those who attended the 2015 Nat Meet. The storms all went around us all except the one night I forgot to turn it on.
With all the storms in SEQ this week and we've had no rain here. Fluke.... I don't think so.
My Jeep has an electronic rust thingy fitted (not by me, previous owner) and seems to be doing alright.
Next week, we're fitting Hyclones to both cars.
Gotto go now, the nice men in white coats and a big butterfly net have just pulled up out front.
Time for me to put on my Shirley Temple outfit and try to outrun them.
Tra la la la la la la la la
They're coming to take me away ha ha.......
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At least my "RainAway" electronic precipitation device works ok.
Ask those who attended the 2015 Nat Meet. The storms all went around us all except the one night I forgot to turn it on.
With all the storms in SEQ this week and we've had no rain here. Fluke.... I don't think so.
My Jeep has an electronic rust thingy fitted (not by me, previous owner) and seems to be doing alright.
Next week, we're fitting Hyclones to both cars.
Gotto go now, the nice men in white coats and a big butterfly net have just pulled up out front.
Time for me to put on my Shirley Temple outfit and try to outrun them.
Tra la la la la la la la la
They're coming to take me away ha ha.......
Don't run Jeepers! They've just come to fit a Brock Energy Polariser for you.
;D ;D
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Don't worry, tin foil hats will never be banned by the government.
They will starve us of tinfoil , You watch :laugh: :laugh:
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Mr 4x4, Pat himself, has ERPS in his newish VW Amarok, and after viewing his trip in the Simpson Desert onto Alice, I did not see much rust at all.
Don't know about that - I saw it as well & I could see red all over the car, so I think it was possibly already starting to rust! ;D >:D
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Don't know about that - I saw it as well & I could see red all over the car, so I think it was possibly already starting to rust! ;D >:D
Lol, I saw a bit of it too, and reckon it's not the only thing. Pat himself I reckon is starting to rust. In fact I had to turn it off, as it seems like 1 big informorcial, and the way he talks these day, I went down to the garage and shoved my head in the vice.
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Don't forget to keep turning the handle till the pain stops >:D
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Don't know about that - I saw it as well & I could see red all over the car, so I think it was possibly already starting to rust! ;D >:D
Being a Volkswagon, maybe the rust was hidden by the diesel fumes put out from the worlds most efficient pollution avoidance application.
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Being a Volkswagon, maybe the rust was hidden by the diesel fumes put out from the worlds most efficient pollution avoidance application.
Yes, I just realised that's it ...
VW haven't announced it yet, but they weren't fiddling the anti-pollution laws, they've actually been working on a new, self-renewing, permanent anti-rust treatment!
You see, diesel is oil-based & their wonderful new system is designed to continually cloak the car in a cloud of fine oil vapour, which will then adhere to the metal & prevent it from rusting!
My god, quick, where's the contact details for the Patent Office, just in case the haven't got the design listed yet >:D
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Don't know about that - I saw it as well & I could see red all over the car, so I think it was possibly already starting to rust! ;D >:D
And on his Fraser Coast episode the following week it was telling people hitting the beach to spray lanolin or oil based stuff under the vehicle to stop it rusting away.
As for the oil mist corrosion prevention system; Isn't this a similar system that Landrover pioneered in the '60's??
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As for the oil mist corrosion prevention system; Isn't this a similar system that Landrover pioneered in the '60's??
I didn't think garage floors rusted much anyway.
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I just checked out the Couplertech Facebook page for laughs...
https://www.facebook.com/couplertec.rustproofing/?ref=ts&fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/couplertec.rustproofing/?ref=ts&fref=ts)
in the last 24 hours they've posted over 60 times. (in previous months, they looked to have averaged only around one or two a day)
around 40 of those had the same copy and pasted block of text and a random pic of a 4wd in mud/water/whatever...
Damage control mode?
"Only Couplertec has been tried, tested and proven to work by scores of Australian Surf Life Saving Clubs on vehicles that almost live on the beach and in the surf, as well as fleet vehicle management companies supplying vehicles to mining industry giants where rust and corrosion is a major cost every year. In addition, government departments and thousands of 4WD vehicle owners around the world trust Couplertec because it is the only technology that works. Couplertec is NOT cathodic. It is a unique technology, that has international patents approved!! To learn more about Couplertec please visit www.Couplertec.com.au (http://www.Couplertec.com.au) or Free Call 1800-300-999. Please note the list of dealers is also at teh web site. With more than now 800,000 systems systems sold, it is important to remember If it is NOT a Couplertec it is NOT a genuine Electronic Rust proofing Device. ONLY TRUST COUPLERTEC!"
I remember a 4wding mate of mine asking my engineer business partner about electronic rust devices back in the late 90's... back then the opinion was that they were quackery and snake oil salesmen...
only took 15+ years to have it confirmed...
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There is nothing on the Motorone Facebook page or their website. According to the documentation they were supposed to post on their website an Important Notice for Consumers
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Had one of these things on the new family sedan many years ago. The manufacturer of said sedan had to remove a piece of rust the size of your thumbnail from the bonnet after 18 months. My mind was made up then and have never worried about putting one on the 4by.
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There is nothing on the Motorone Facebook page or their website. According to the documentation they were supposed to post on their website an Important Notice for Consumers
Hempo the notice is on their fleet page http://www.motoronefleet.com/home.php (http://www.motoronefleet.com/home.php)
There is a white text box on the right hand side towards the top of the screen
Rod
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Hempo the notice is on their fleet page http://www.motoronefleet.com/home.php (http://www.motoronefleet.com/home.php)
There is a white text box on the right hand side towards the top of the screen
Rod
I tried clicking this box new tab opens and then closes instantly maybe technically posting but I was not quick enough to read it
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I'm still trying to find the independent tests that prove Couplertec works. Does it exist?
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I'm still trying to find the independent tests that prove Couplertec works. Does it exist?
??? ???
Who knows, but what is the warrenty on it? I mean if my car started rusting after 10 yrs, 20yr? Or is it for ever
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I tried clicking this box new tab opens and then closes instantly maybe technically posting but I was not quick enough to read it
Not sure what the problem is mate. When I click on it the document opens up as a pdf
Cheers
Rod
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Not sure what the problem is mate. When I click on it the document opens up as a pdf
Cheers
Rod
Here ya go Hempo .copy n pasted
HIGH PERFORMANCE CORPORATION PTY LTD (HPC) and MOTOR
ONE GROUP PTY LTD (MotorOne) supplied the Defense Pak
Computerised Electronic Corrosion Inhibitor units (CECI Units) to
consumers through various retailers in Australia.
In supplying the CECI Units, HPC represented that the CECI Units could
drastically reduce the rate at which rust forms and MotorOne represented
that by using the CECI Units the rate at which rust forms could be reduced
by as much as 80%, effectively doubling a vehicle’s life span of the vehicle
against rust.
The Commissioner for Consumer Protection (WA) (Commissioner)
considers that there was no reasonable basis for these representations
and that HPC and MotorOne have contravened the Australian Consumer
Law.
The Commissioner has accepted an undertaking from HPC and MotorOne
under which HPC and MotorOne will cease advertising and supplying the
CECI Units in Australia. Additionally, HPC and MotorOne are offering
consumers who have purchased a CECI Unit between 1 January 2011
and 31 December 2013 a refund of the purchase and installation costs.
If you have purchased a CECI Unit, you can obtain a refund by providing
proof of your purchase to HPC or MotorOne:
1. by post: 275 Canterbury Road, Canterbury, Victoria 3126; or
2. by email: refund@motorone.com, or
by telephoning the MotorOne hotline on 1300 801 917.
You can obtain further information by telephoning HPC or MotorOne on
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Do they put these things on cars where they drive around on salted roads? You know, to prevent ice.
For all the claims that they work by average Joe I'm only going to believe it if they have two of the same vehicle, one with the thingy fitted and then driven side by side until rust kicks in.
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Next will be the hi clone under the microscope.
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I'm still trying to find the independent tests that prove Couplertec works. Does it exist?
Try emailing them, and asking for a copy of their proof.
Should be good for a laugh.
Next will be the hi clone under the microscope.
For older carbies the hi clone does at least have a bit of science behind it. ERPS doesn't.
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thanks guys.
I'll admit, as it's on my 4wd page anyway, I had one installed on my patrol by the dealer when new. I have emailed motorone a refund application so wait and will see what happens. I am sure there will be others on here who also purchased.
Cheers
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Well look at them all come out of the wood work now. I told you so they say. Well I was one who purchased an ERPS and put it on the cruiser when I purchased it new in 2010 because I plan to keep this rig until I retire so it has to last another 20 years. I was suss if they worked or not but thought it would be better than nothing. I just glad that no one else has ever bought something that didn't work or wasn't up to the specs they thought it was. Lucky I'm the only one In This life that was cond Into this.
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G'day Bully,
Don't sweat it mate as a couple of us have admitted to being conned. If it makes people feel better to throw a few darts at others that have made a bad decision so be it. Can't change the decision now only hope that I can get out of it.
You might be one of the lucky ones as you may fall into the allowable dates for a refund. I bought mine with the rig earlier this year and they are only refunding up until Dec 2013 purchases so it looks like I am up s**t creek without a paddle :'(
It's nearly Christmas mate so be happy :cheers:
Rod
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G'day Bully,
Don't sweat it mate as a couple of us have admitted to being conned. If it makes people feel better to throw a few darts at others that have made a bad decision so be it. Can't change the decision now only hope that I can get out of it.
You might be one of the lucky ones as you may fall into the allowable dates for a refund. I bought mine with the rig earlier this year and they are only refunding up until Dec 2013 purchases so it looks like I am up s**t creek without a paddle :'(
It's nearly Christmas mate so be happy :cheers:
Rod
Well said sir. :cup: :cup: :cup:
Ave ya self a great chrissy. :cheers:
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I just glad that no one else has ever bought something that didn't work or wasn't up to the specs they thought it was.
Fortunatly Ive never bought anything like what you describe.
Unfortunatly I married it ;D
Bi?l
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Fortunatly Ive never bought anything like what you describe.
Unfortunatly I married it ;D
Bi?l
You beat me to it!
Thank f*** for that lol
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Aah well, it's been nice knowing you both ... >:D
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Mind you there might be something in it-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroplating
Just not while you're driving along stoopids :-*