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Title: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Darcy7 on November 25, 2015, 11:36:07 AM
Hi all

I had an unusual experience on the weekend.  I got flagged down by an older guy parked on the side of the Hume Highway just to the south of Craigieburn in his 2014 Holden Colorado.  I stopped and asked what the problem was.  He told me he had pulled over for an emergency pee break, got out of the car leaving the motor running and when he closed the door, the central locking locked all the doors. He had everything still inside the car including the keys and his mobile phone.

I tried to open the doors but I it was impossible with the limited gear I had with me at the time. We tried to contact his wife who lived nearby but she didn't answer so we called RACV and got them out to open the car for him.

This is a bit of a concern to me as I thought the auto locking feature on cars only activated when the vehicle was moving at a certain speed.  I can imagine if this happened out in the scrub or in the hot outback.  You would have to break in by busting a window and that may not always be a viable option.

Either way, anyone with this feature on your car should be very careful and always take your keys with you when leaving the vehicle, even only for a brief stop.

Stay safe

Darcy
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Bird on November 25, 2015, 11:46:37 AM
Quote from: Darcy7
...and that may not always be a viable option.
it would be if your stuck!
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: D4D on November 25, 2015, 11:49:02 AM
Sounds odd, as you suggested usually they only auto lock when in motion, unless the immobiliser auto lock kicked in, but you said the engine was still running.

I have a faulty/intermittent RHS door switch on the Prado. If I open that door and don't open any other door, it will auto lock as it doesn't detect a door has been opened.

If there was no auto unlock and he left the vehicle running, I wonder if the immobiliser kicked in and relocked the vehicle after the door was opened?
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: gronk on November 25, 2015, 12:23:24 PM
Not a problem for me.....the key always stays in my pocket !!
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Andrew_C on November 25, 2015, 12:52:59 PM
I had it with a passenger door on a 2012 Prado also, wife opened door, chucked in hand back with fob in it, then while walking to drivers side, car locked, after driving spare fob down and opening car, called and explained situation to a switched on Toyota tech who told me to check interior light off passenger door, no worky and door switch replaced by Toyota under warranty.

Problem solved.

Techy said only way in if this happens and no spare fob is to break a window or tow to a Toyota Dealership which I thought was comforting  ;D.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: callmejoe on November 25, 2015, 01:09:51 PM
Had it happens on plenty of cars. Work with lots and lots of different  ones.  Some lock because
1. The cars was running.
2. Its in gear
3 . Most likely in this case. (Can still be a fault) but as he didn't unlock the doors just opened it from the inside allowing  him out the car still  thinks its in locked mode,  so you close the door and front the outside still locked.
3. And some are just stupid and lock to pee you off.

I NEVER  leave keys in a car specially running unless i have a window open. Even if it just open enough to get something through the window.

Joe.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: The punter on November 25, 2015, 01:10:34 PM
Too much tech in these bloody cars now

Overengineered for dumb people
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: time on November 25, 2015, 01:24:30 PM
I NEVER  leave keys in a car specially running unless i have a window open. Even if it just open enough to get something through the window.

X 2  My Patrol self locks whenever it thinks it will inconvenience me, so it is not trusted ............. ever  >:D

Old trick is to have spare key wired up under the car somewhere.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: callmejoe on November 25, 2015, 02:07:07 PM

Old trick is to have spare key wired up under the car somewhere.

Thats was a great idea until they brought out the keyless fobs.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Bird on November 25, 2015, 02:10:26 PM
I like the system they had in the HT Holden best...
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on November 25, 2015, 02:31:37 PM
I like the system they had in the HT Holden best...

The earlier base models were even more basic, they didn't even have a drivers door lock.  :D

Unlock the passenger door and slide across the bench seat.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Bird on November 25, 2015, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: Footy Shorts Shane
The earlier base models were even more basic, they didn't even have a drivers door lock.  :D

Unlock the passenger door and slide across the bench seat.
saw a smick HT this morning. haven't got the image out of me head yet.
like this but a T not a HG
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/lx406/webhgprem.jpg)
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on November 25, 2015, 03:14:01 PM
saw a smick HT this morning. haven't got the image out of me head yet.
like this but a T not a HG
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a307/lx406/webhgprem.jpg)


That's a very tidy Prem, but I much prefer the HK, like the one beside it  ;D
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Wazza999 on November 25, 2015, 03:47:03 PM
"The earlier base models were even more basic, they didn't even have a drivers door lock.  Unlock the passenger door and slide across the bench seat."

Yep my old beloved HR ute!

On topic had this happen in a work GU patrol a few years ago, car was off but keys in ignition, got out to go to the loo. Only happened once, fortunately there was someone sitting in the passenger seat. Vehicle never did it again but we were especially careful. I'm always wary of this possibility in our Jetta as the electronics can be a bit flaky with the sunroof having a life of it's own on occasions and the weird way the parking lights will stay on, on one side if you leave the indicator on and lock up. Was told this had something to do with some German rule rather than flaky electrics?
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: tracker on November 25, 2015, 03:51:04 PM
Lost thread...MB.....

                             Cheers Tracker.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Kangaron on November 25, 2015, 03:55:07 PM
In Victoria it is illegal to leave your car unlocked, leave the key in the ignition or leave the windows open if you’re more than three metres away from your vehicle.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: gronk on November 25, 2015, 05:28:08 PM
In Victoria it is illegal to leave your car unlocked, leave the key in the ignition or leave the windows open if you’re more than three metres away from your vehicle.

Probably the same everywhere ??   I'd say they could have a field day at camping spots.....if they could stoop that low !!
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Tim - Stratford on November 25, 2015, 05:51:35 PM
I like the system they had in the HT Holden best...

Or the XA...XF....spare key kept under the bonnet in the dipstick spot - would open the door and start the ignition...  :police:

I got caught out the other week with a Holden Cruze with keyless entry. Go around to give the elderly aunt's car a charge/drive only to find the car battery dead flat. Flick the key out of the fob and put it into the drivers side keyhole (the only one on the car) only to find it is an electronic lock. Turning the key activates a switch......if the car had power - in my case nothing! The only option I could think of was to try and get under the car and get the +ve of the charger onto the starter and the -ve onto the chassis - but due to where it was parked it wasn't going to happen.

Ended up calling the locksmith who propped the door open with an airbag and then activated the internal handle twice to open the car...FFS!

Tim
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Bird on November 25, 2015, 06:04:46 PM
Serious... cars that park themselves, doors that lock themselves?? Are people that ****ing moronic these days to need that Shit?? People cant lock their own doors? FFS

VLADIMIR PUTIN YOUR A POOFTER. AND IT WAS AN AUSSIE PLANE THAT SHOT DOWN YOUR AIRCRAFT..
HURRY UP AND DROP A FEW NUKES ON US - THERES NO HOPE.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: jetcrew on November 25, 2015, 06:08:27 PM
I will have a spare key zip tied inside the chasisi on my big trip as I do for most big trips, also have a key with no chip etc in it for my 100 its grey in colour and can go for a swim and still work .

This same thing happened to me in the getz we had  was very embarrassing told the guy i borrowed the wifes car and I no  dont cut hair when he showed up smiling

Jet ;D ;D ;D 
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: CRW on November 25, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
Not a problem for me.....the key always stays in my pocket !!

And you can't lock the keys in a 200 series


Cheers
Carl
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Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: gronk on November 25, 2015, 07:08:46 PM
And you can't lock the keys in a 200 series


Cheers
Carl
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But there are other ways to get caught out !!

Stopped at the local club, got out and let the missus drive the 4wd home.....then found I still had the key in my pocket....she said she was going to stop off on the way home at the shops, but decided not to, so lucky for me she didn't !!  As you know, it wouldn't have started again !!
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Black Diamond on November 25, 2015, 07:16:38 PM
I will have a spare key zip tied inside the chasisi on my big trip as I do for most big trips, also have a key with no chip etc in it for my 100 its grey in colour and can go for a swim and still work .

This same thing happened to me in the getz we had  was very embarrassing told the guy i borrowed the wifes car and I no  dont cut hair when he showed up smiling

Jet ;D ;D ;D
Lol, just come out and admit it you closet Hairdresser ;D ;D
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: jetcrew on November 25, 2015, 07:18:41 PM
Lol, just come out and admit it you closet Hairdresser ;D ;D

If I,m ya hairdresser you got big problems ...LOL  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: slcs78 on November 25, 2015, 07:20:45 PM
Have a my13 Colorado and want even aware it had an auto lock function ???
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Tim - Stratford on November 25, 2015, 09:55:16 PM
And you can't lock the keys in a 200 series

Does the key in the fob unlock the door mechanically?

Tim
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: CRW on November 25, 2015, 09:59:06 PM
Does the key in the fob unlock the door mechanically?

Tim

Yes


Cheers
Carl
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Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Jaysea on November 25, 2015, 10:05:46 PM
We were camping a few years back with a Nissan Pathfinder.  Camp site was miles from any where with no phone reception.  At some point during the day I jumped in the car to turn the motor over to give a bit of juice back in to the second battery that was running the fridge. hopped out and left the door open.  5 minutes later my young daughter thought she was doing the right thing and closed the car door.

Yep - you guessed it - for some reason the car decided to lock all the doors.  Only thing I could do was smash the rear window to get access otherwise we would have had no chance of getting out.

not a good experience!
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: kylarama on November 26, 2015, 06:02:27 AM
Years ago I had an 93 EB S Pack, the first with Fords 'Smartlock'.  Put a new battery in it one day, had the battery disconnected for a good 4 hours while doing other stuff.  Reconnected the battery and instantly the doors locked with the keys in the ignition.

To this day any car with remote or central locking, if I leave the keys in the ignition, I put the window down a frag.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: jwb on November 26, 2015, 07:08:01 AM
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Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: HEM19X on November 27, 2015, 05:22:52 AM
Was talking to a bloke last week who has a 2010 BT50, said he has been locked out a number of times - We had our BT for 4 years & it never happened to us???

The current one will re-lock after 20 sec if we don't open a door.
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Darcy7 on November 27, 2015, 10:27:03 AM
I reckon this is a problem or potential problem for an increasing number of vehicles today.  All these safety features and electronic conveniences are fine up until the point they cause you a headache. 

Simply keeping a spare key with you at all times is a simple solution and just good common sense.  Leaving a window open is also a good idea.  Both suggestions require a conscious effort.

I tend to agree with you Bruce.  All these modern conveniences seem to be pandering to the general hopelessness and lack of common sense that permeates modern society.  Fine if you live on the city and never venture far away from it but for those of us who get out into the outback, not so convenient.   
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Bird on November 27, 2015, 10:30:54 AM
Quote from: Darcy7
I tend to agree with you Bruce.


just for that I have a camp chair you can have... FREE!
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: KingBilly on November 27, 2015, 10:47:15 AM
All these modern conveniences seem to be pandering to the general hopelessness and lack of common sense that permeates modern society.  Fine if you live on the city and never venture far away from it but for those of us who get out into the outback, not so convenient.

Yep, fully agree but all companies need to make profits to satisfy shareholders.  I reckon 95% of myswag member's financial futures are reliant on shares increasing in value and paying dividends, otherwise their superannuation funds would be going backwards.

So for companies to make profits, they target the largest and the most profitable markets.  Car manufacturers are no different.  Their biggest markets are in the cities so they make vehicles that city folk think they want or need.  They are going to sell more cars to the younger generations than the retirees.

Read a reprint of an old fourbie magazine the other day where the journalist was having a whinge about how soft the 60 series Cruiser had become  ;D

KB
Title: Re: Auto locking doors - please be careful
Post by: Bird on November 27, 2015, 10:54:56 AM
Quote from: KingBilly
..where the journalist was having a whinge about how soft the 60 series Cruiser had become  ;D
due to all the rust in them??? ;D