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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: KingBilly on November 01, 2015, 05:25:19 PM
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Read a comment in another thread that the member's new secondhand tug "showed no signs of heavy towing". How do you tell? I would have no idea what to look for. Any ideas?
KB
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the towbar itself could be distorted, and things you would have to perhaps be a little wiser to like excessive play in the driveline, clutch on the way out, sagging rear springs, badly worn rear bushes etc, compared to a similar model/age of the same vehicle
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i just read that to and had the same question. if the towbar was distorted then it must be really excessive. ;D
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the towbar itself could be distorted
Good point.
excessive play in the driveline, clutch on the way out, sagging rear springs, badly worn rear bushes etc, compared to a similar model/age of the same vehicle
If used off road, or just the vehicle overloaded, most of these things would also be applicable.
clutch on the way out
That's standard on a 12 month old Navara :D
KB
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any heavy weight towed wears out components quicker. look for uni joints worn especially if the vehicle is newer.
shocks worn out before their time.
springs that have sagged.
bushes worn etc.
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That's standard on a 12 month old Navara :D
KB
and hiluxs from what ive heard
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also my car has signs of heavy towing. ever since i fitted airbags in the rear springs ;D the little grand vitara does what its told. whether it likes it or not.
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the towbar itself could be distorted, and things you would have to perhaps be a little wiser to like excessive play in the driveline, clutch on the way out, sagging rear springs, badly worn rear bushes etc, compared to a similar model/age of the same vehicle
Fairdinkum that sounds like my misses.
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Have a look at where the hitch pin goes through receiver. The holes will be elongated.
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and hiluxs from what ive heard
Not sure if a Hilux has enough power or torque to be able to stress a clutch
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Do the doors close alright?
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Screw holes around towbar, dashboard and in engine bay that don't correspond with lights etc.
12 pin trailer plug.
Brake controller.
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Not sure if a Hilux has enough power or torque to be able to stress a clutch
Yes we Suzuki afficionados know those Hiluxes can be deadly but their poor owners are forever trying to improve the brakes-
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/companies/toyota-has-issued-a-warning-about-thousands-of-counterfeit-brake-pads-containing-deadly-asbestos/story-fnkjkh00-1227590041262 (http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/business/companies/toyota-has-issued-a-warning-about-thousands-of-counterfeit-brake-pads-containing-deadly-asbestos/story-fnkjkh00-1227590041262)
or perhaps it's all down to those ugly Toyota repayments :-\
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Have a look at where the hitch pin goes through receiver. The holes will be elongated.
Bit like looking for good woman really. >:D
I reckon its hard to tell, we always get so excited about getting a new tug and its often enough, long after you've used it a few times before you realize the airbags have gone off a few times before you got it and its showing signs of having the speedo turned back.
Oh, and how come, the moans and groans only appear after the first six months.
Then of course, you also have ya 4WD.
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Screw holes around towbar, dashboard and in engine bay that don't correspond with lights etc.
12 pin trailer plug.
Brake controller.
Um, wouldn't that just be signs of towing? The thread is about how to tell if a tug has been abused through heavy towing :D
KB
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Bit like looking for good woman really. >:D
I reckon its hard to tell, we always get so excited about getting a new tug and its often enough, long after you've used it a few times before you realize the airbags have gone off a few times before you got it and its showing signs of having the speedo turned back.
Oh, and how come, the moans and groans only appear after the first six months.
Then of course, you also have ya 4WD.
Hey Jeepers, not every thread is about sex :D
KB
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Bit like looking for good woman really. >:D
I reckon its hard to tell, we always get so excited about getting a new tug and its often enough, long after you've used it a few times before you realize the airbags have gone off a few times before you got it and its showing signs of having the speedo turned back.
Oh, and how come, the moans and groans only appear after the first six months.
Then of course, you also have ya 4WD.
Hey Jeepers, not every thread is about sex Rd
KB
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No, but maybe they should be. Might get more readers that way!
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How do you tell? I would have no idea what to look for. Any ideas?
A turn table in the back.
;D
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Have a look at where the hitch pin goes through receiver. The holes will be elongated.
If this gets bad enough, the hitch becomes difficult to remove from the receiver.
The elongations on the hitch and the receiver holes become flared, and they catch on each other as the hitch is withdrawn.
:cheers:
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Hey Jeepers, not every thread is about sex :D
KB
4 languages on this forum.
1-English
2-speewanese
3-jeepers crypto
4-drononian
Just need to learn to read between the lines of all
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Signs of heavy towing [ tounge in cheek extreme ] ;D ...Rear springs sagged, rear chassis sagged cracked or banana shaped or higher on the left front due to twist , negative camber on solid axle rear wheels, door gaps wider on back or top edges , left hand engine mount torn and engine chained to chassis, engine fan tips and radiator shroud all ripped up, gearbox and transfer case mounts skewed sideways, A buckled steering wheel a dent in the floor under the accelerator pedal and above all the " Roadtrain boss " sticker on the rear window ..
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If heavy towing is sensibly towing a 3 tonne caravan around for many kms you would never tell once the tug is separated from the van.
If heavy towing is bashing a 3 tonne caravan around including off road and driving it like you stole it, then you may find driveline backlash, a tired motor, whining diff, sagged suspension, etc.
But you can find all that on a vehicle that has never towed!
The same applies to a tradies utes or dual cabs that tows a trailer full of gear around every day.
Very subjective. There is no blanket answer to determine an accurate answer to the question other than get a used vehicle without a tow bar.
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If heavy towing is sensibly towing a 3 tonne caravan around for many kms you would never tell once the tug is separated from the van.
If heavy towing is bashing a 3 tonne caravan around including off road and driving it like you stole it, then you may find driveline backlash, a tired motor, whining diff, sagged suspension, etc.
But you can find all that on a vehicle that has never towed!
The same applies to a tradies utes or dual cabs that tows a trailer full of gear around every day.
Very subjective. There is no blanket answer to determine an accurate answer to the question other than get a used vehicle without a tow bar.
Thanks Rebs. What I was thinking :cup:
KB
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A turn table in the back.
;D
Jake brakes
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All 4 Adventure stickers on the doors and old sleeveless blue shirts under the seat?
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any heavy weight towed wears out components quicker. look for uni joints worn especially if the vehicle is newer.
shocks worn out before their time.
springs that have sagged.
bushes worn etc.
cheers mark - one would say let common sense prevail - any vehicle that shows signs of heavy wear should probably be avoided, like two I was advised against by nrma pre-purchase inspection reports some years ago - one of which bore the words 'shows signs of heavy/excessive towing' - I was never sure what 'excessive' towing meant but I declined the purchase anyway - not so a work colleague who did buy the vehicle and regretted doing so
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I looked at a couple of vehicles when finding our current one. One was ruled out fairly quickly as having worked reasonably hard in its short life was a used towball, in itself not much of a warning but when combined with red clay/mud caught in a few spots under the body and a broken side step meant I didn't have to ponder vey long. The alternative same model, similar price had an unused towball and no underbody damage was the obvious choice.
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Note to self. Put on new towball before trying to sell :D
KB
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Note to self. Put on new towball before trying to sell :D
KB
hmm - I should probably make sure I don't have the treg hitch on then...
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Um, wouldn't that just be signs of towing? The thread is about how to tell if a tug has been abused through heavy towing :D
KB
Given your title is "Signs of heavy towing" light towing wouldn't require trailer brakes.
Our work utes are abused to a point that one would think that heavy towing would have happened, ie used as anchors to pull equipment.