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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Paul (SA) on October 13, 2015, 07:00:05 AM
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I am keen on going to the 4wd show here in Adelaide this month. I am not keen to buy anything in particular but just see what is new and interesting.
At $18 for entry though this is getting a bit much. I know it is combined with the Boat/fishing show but still.
Unless you are ready to do a deal on a purchase of something sufficient to recoup the entry fee somewhat it hardly seems worth it.
I like to take the kids along to increase their interest in getting outdoors but I can't justify taking them along now.
Rant over.
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Is kid entry not free? They were at the Penrith show.
Agree on the charges though... it really offsets any savings unless you are buying a lot.
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You've really just got to look at these shows as a day out. Paying entry for the privilege of buying something doesn't do anything for me and the prices aren't all that flash anyway. The real money is made by the show organisers, good luck to them but besides entry and a coffee they get nothin from me.
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considering what many things costs to take kids for the day its pretty cheap really. Plus you get to look around at everything and spend time with the kids
Swannie
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considering what many things costs to take kids for the day its pretty cheap really. Plus you get to look around at everything and spend time with the kids
Swannie
Agreed, with kids free its not that expensive. We (my family) have gone to the Rosehill show several times the last few years, its as much a day out as checking out camping gear. Plus parking is free - in Sydney that's a bonus.
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Not just shows, but many things... Charge 1/2 the price and not only will more go but bring mates etc.. small profit large turn over...
The steam train ride at Maldon on weekend was $75 a family to go 4ft down the track... make it $30 and I'll see it as value and come back.
Same as 10 pin bowling during school holidays... 2 games each for 2 adults + 3 kids under 13 the other day cost me over $130... nearly ****in died on the spot.
make it $40 for a family and I'd go more often - not once and never again
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Not just shows, but many things... Charge 1/2 the price and not only will more go but bring mates etc.. small profit large turn over...
The steam train ride at Maldon on weekend was $75 a family to go 4ft down the track... make it $30 and I'll see it as value and come back.
Same as 10 pin bowling during school holidays... 2 games each for 2 adults + 3 kids under 13 the other day cost me over $130... nearly ****in died on the spot.
make it $40 for a family and I'd go more often - not once and never again
100% agree. Look at these two events and their pricing. One is twice the admission with probably less than 1/5 of the spectators.
http://www.willowbankraceway.com.au/events/detail.aspx?EventGroupID=92 (http://www.willowbankraceway.com.au/events/detail.aspx?EventGroupID=92)
http://qldraceways.com.au/all-american-thanksgiving-day (http://qldraceways.com.au/all-american-thanksgiving-day)
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The entry price for these shows is getting out of hand. We only go to them to check out the new gear with the intention of possibly buying from them and they charge us for the privilege. It is the event promoters that make all the money, many exhibitors don't even cover costs.
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not entirely the same, but in he late 90's, the MTB company that I worked for did free technical/mechanical support at events for our products. (disc brakes, suspension forks etc)
We had event promoters that wanted us to pay (as much as $1,000 a weekend) for the privilege of standing in the sun all weekend on a mountain and working on peoples bikes.
Did I mention that the technical/mechanical service that we provided was free?
*cue shaking head icon*
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not entirely the same, but in he late 90's, the MTB company that I worked for did free technical/mechanical support at events for our products. (disc brakes, suspension forks etc)
We had event promoters that wanted us to pay (as much as $1,000 a weekend) for the privilege of standing in the sun all weekend on a mountain and working on peoples bikes.
Did I mention that the technical/mechanical service that we provided was free?
*cue shaking head icon*
It was said a few years ago ARB spent $85,000 on space at the big 4b show in Melb..
You have to make $100k to make a profit.. that's a lot of snatch straps and shackles
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Whats worse the last one in melborne was almost the same for parking.
30 odd bucks and i hadnt even walked tbrough the gate yet
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I only go to camping or fourbie shows if I want to compare makes/models/manufacturers etc. prior to making a major purchase. To do that, other than at a show, I need to take a day off work, as most of these places don't open at times that fit with my work, then knock myself out driving all over the city using fuel and paying for parking (in most cases). Maybe only get to see three local guys. Whereas at the shows, I get to see them all within walking distance. Plus I not only get to see the local guys, I get to see a heap of interstate manufacturers at the shows. Therefore I don't mind paying for parking and an admission ticket.
If I am looking for a snatch starp, I wouldn't be wasting my time going to a show. Never found a decent bargain at one yet. Always better prices during their sales or online.
KB
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Whats worse the last one in melborne was almost the same for parking.
30 odd bucks and i hadnt even walked tbrough the gate yet
and after lining up for 45 mins stuck in traffic they are counting on the fact you wont just turn around and go home. Interesting to see what happens if you get to the gate and refuse to pay for parking.. with 1200 cars up your ringhole along the 1 way street they aren't going to make you do U-Turn and go home - they wouldn't have many options but to let you in....
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Whats worse the last one in melborne was almost the same for parking.
30 odd bucks and i hadnt even walked tbrough the gate yet
Same in Brisbane
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I know of one local camper trailer retailer who usually has a display who is not attending this year. He basically said that he can't afford the cost to have a space as an exhibitor.
Leisurefest was great in Adelaide. A local big 4 was the venue and entry was free.
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Same in Brisbane
plenty of on street parking about the RNA grounds, never paid to park any time we have gone to a show myself.
Can't say I attend many shows these days though, the entry price puts me off going and there aren't the big savings to be had that there used to be like say 8 or 9 years ago. Went to the last caravan and camping show that was on just for the heck of it, in no hurry to go to another one any time soon after that experience. If I was in the market to buy a van or camper it'd be worth going, but unless you have you eye on buying something I don't see the value in the shows nowadays.
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plenty of on street parking about the RNA grounds, never paid to park any time we have gone to a show myself.
Can't say I attend many shows these days though, the entry price puts me off going and there aren't the big savings to be had that there used to be like say 8 or 9 years ago. Went to the last caravan and camping show that was on just for the heck of it, in no hurry to go to another one any time soon after that experience. If I was in the market to buy a van or camper it'd be worth going, but unless you have you eye on buying something I don't see the value in the shows nowadays.
Not sure I'd agree re the parking and the inspectors are lethal. I was pinged $130 the other day for a parking infringement in Brisbane.I agree with the rest. I don't see any value unless you are in the market for something as show specials seem a bit ordinary these days.My kids did like climbing over all the campers earlier this year though.
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Not sure I'd agree re the parking and the inspectors are lethal. I was pinged $130 the other day for a parking infringement in Brisbane.I agree with the rest. I don't see any value unless you are in the market for something as show specials seem a bit ordinary these days.My kids did like climbing over all the campers earlier this year though.
over the years have always gotten car parks on Brookes St or the many side streets running off of it. Also manage to park on St Pauls Tce right outside the entrance gate one Sunday, even though the person on the gate said I'd get a ticket for parking there (which I didn't get by the way). Saturdays and Sundays have different restrictions, just a matter of reading the signs even though they can be confusing at first glance. Now that they have redeveloped the RNA it means you need to walk a few hundred metres further to an entrance gate, but I'd rather do that then pay the high parking fees they charge.
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My wife and I just went to the Melbourne Leisurefest Caravan and Camping show at Sandown. $16 online tickets. Bought a 40L Waeco for $700 (Anaconda best price was $879) a fridge cover for $80 (usually $115) and an Oztrail double pop up shower for $110 marked down from $200. We thought it was a good day out. I think there are a lot of sooks out there though that what something for nothing..
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We thought it was a good day out. I think there are a lot of sooks out there though that what something for nothing..
Agree.
Don't like it... Don't go
Simple
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With the upcoming 4wd show on at Sydney eastern creek this weekend, I thought I would check and maybe order tickets online to save but stopped as if I buy at site on the day the cost is $18.00 but online the cost is $18.00 plus a $1.90 online surcharge total $19.90 go figure.
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Went to Sandown on the weekend. Best $40 I ever spent walked away agreeing that my choice of “next camper” was our best option
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walked away agreeing that my choice of “next camper” was our best option
well for this week anyway......
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Hopefully heading to the show at Rosehill in April 2016. Flights to Sydney are free from Warburton, perks of the job, and really don't care what the entry prices are as this is our chance to choose our next Van, hybrid or whatever.
Mark
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I know of one local camper trailer retailer who usually has a display who is not attending this year. He basically said that he can't afford the cost to have a space as an exhibitor.
Leisurefest was great in Adelaide. A local big 4 was the venue and entry was free.
I think you nailed it right there.
Even though it sucks paying parking and an expensive entry price and if your there all day have a couple of snacks and drinks youve done the best part of 100 bucks...its the exhibitors that are the ones that realy get shafted as all that money should realy be going to them.
After all they are paying to get boots on the ground with deep.pockets.
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Melb Leisurefest at Sandown is a chance for us to check out the campers of our choice all in one place. On line tickets $14 each and we make and take a packed lunch and all our drinks and generally have a lovely day out together browsing and meeting lots of nice people.
Will be a while before we purchase a camper but seeing them all in the one spot allows us to make comparisons really quickly and narrow down the field.
A chance to spend some time together is a bonus.
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Whats worse the last one in melborne was almost the same for parking.
30 odd bucks and i hadnt even walked tbrough the gate yet
If'n you'd arksered you coulderof parked at my place.
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I don't go any more. I've found it rare to get any real bargains, by which i mean special prices or deals which are better than what's available at the in-store sales any other time of the year. I also object to paying so much money to go shopping. Most shows don't really have anything that would qualify as entertainment. I was pleased to hear TJM decided to stop displaying at the shows in Brisbane and put on show specials in-store. It must be really frustrating for anyone who decides to travel any great distance to a show, only to find out that they could have saved their money and just visited a few stores.
I feel for some of the vendors as well. The fees they have to pay must be crippling, and it probably explains why you see so many of the smaller vendors looking so dismayed on the last day of a show.
Mike
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I think there are a lot of sooks out there though that what something for nothing..
when they are charging ARB 85,000 just to plonk their Shit on the floor, and they aren't the biggest displayer - and one of dozens, I think they can afford to make entry free or $10/head at most.. they want you to go there and spend, make me want to go there in the first place.
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Boat show in Adelaide where the boats are on the water (where they should be) plenty of FREE parking and a GOLD coin donation as entry fee which goes to Variety Club.
Well done to the organizers. They got it right
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when they are charging ARB 85,000 just to plonk their Shit on the floor, and they aren't the biggest displayer - and one of dozens
This is the reason there are no 'real' bargains at these shows anymore. The traders need to cover their costs.
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A few years ago when I was inquiring about a particular Melbourne base companies offroad caravan, I rang them to ask if they would be at the Brisbane show. They explained that they don't usually display at shows as their product is custom built to order, and they generally had 8 months worth of production on order, and it wasn't worth paying 30odd thousand to increase the wait time for their product ?
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Not just shows, but many things... Charge 1/2 the price and not only will more go but bring mates etc.. small profit large turn over...
Worked well for a mate in his 2nd hand shop years ago
His missus worked it through the week, selling stuff at top $$$ with a couple of sales here n there.
He'd work it on Saturday morning for smaller profits, and there would be people everywhere waiting to buy
Can't help wondering of those posting here being against the prices charged, and the lack of 'bargins' to be found at these shows now, run their own business, but would argue how they need to charge higher $$$ :-X
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looking at going to the sunshine coast caravan show tomorrow. partly to warranty a frying pan, and its also a good excuse to get out the house.
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looking at going to the sunshine coast caravan show tomorrow. partly to warranty a frying pan, and its also a good excuse to get out the house.
What's the story with the pan?
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Relax, put the diff lock on, climb another sand dune & enjoy the view.
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a small section of the coating lifted, to me it looks like poor metal prep. but they reckon a rivet shifted. i contacted them and they said either pay postage both ways or meet them there.
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a small section of the coating lifted, to me it looks like poor metal prep. but they reckon a rivet shifted. i contacted them and they said either pay postage both ways or meet them there.
Now that's customer service that'll keep 'em coming back.
Care to name them?
Relax, put the diff lock on, climb another sand dune & enjoy the view.
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diamond t i think the brand is. but as i found out they are under tv2you and also sold as some other brand. so yeah, very trust worthy. on a side note. the non stick is excellent.
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Worked well for a mate in his 2nd hand shop years ago
His missus worked it through the week, selling stuff at top $$$ with a couple of sales here n there.
He'd work it on Saturday morning for smaller profits, and there would be people everywhere waiting to buy
Can't help wondering of those posting here being against the prices charged, and the lack of 'bargins' to be found at these shows now, run their own business, but would argue how they need to charge higher $$$ :-X
When I owned my own business and looked into pricing for me to set up at the show I had to decline..
There was just no way I could even come close to making the money back.
Bill
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I go when interested and have picked up some good buys over the years. But you need to go prepared with the products you are after and the prices you expect them to be if shopping for camping/4wd gear. The first 3 or so I went to I didn't and wasn't sure whether the prices were good or not so didn't buy anything.
If going just for smaller price purchases then the savings need to be great to cover entry prices.
If looking at comparing 4wd's or campers/caravans then yes they are worth it.
What gets me though is recently I was travelling back from the central coast to Newcastle on a Sunday and there was a show on. Last day 2pm so only open for 2 more hours and already tents were packing up. They wanted to still charge me full price for myself, wife & 3 kids (kids weren't free) so $50 just to enter to see if maybe there was something still available. This did get on my nerves surely by that stage they could let you in for free.
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I know of a Dealership at the Adelaide camping show who had 3 caravans there on display. The site cost $30,000.
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The retailers at the shows aren't there just to make money selling stuff(if at all), think of it more as advertising. You have at a guess 20,000 people over 3 days looking at stuff that they are interested in, your target market is being handed to them on a plate.
I imagine if ARB (as an example) spent ~$80,000 on TV advertising that they wouldn't reach as many of there targeted clientele as they would at the show, and they get money from sales too!
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When we go to these shows we take food , coffee , cups , snacks & a visa card . We don't really want to queue for a week to pay the ransom on 1/2 a Luke warm chip . :cheers:
lts always interesting to check out the kit on sale , but not always to buy , as has been said :cheers:
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I agree with most of the comments here, but am not sure where some posters got their information on the price of a display for retailers. I believe $30,000and $80000 may be well off the mark. At the recent Adelaide show, cost was only a fraction of this.
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I agree with most of the comments here, but am not sure where some posters got their information on the price of a display for retailers. I believe $30,000and $80000 may be well off the mark. At the recent Adelaide show, cost was only a fraction of this.
I can tell you from experience that especially for a caravan company who have a large site at one of the top tier shows that this would be accurate.
For the Melbourne show in February it will be over 10000 for us to attend and that would be a site big enough to have two campers with no annexes up.
Cheers
Nick
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I can also tell you from experience that at the recent Adelaide show it was well under $10000 for a display area large enough for 3 large ski boats in the centre of one of the halls.
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These are the exhibitor prices for the Mackay 2016 Home Show
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae148/armoggy/Camper/Home%20Show_zpsq3zo2sv1.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/armoggy/media/Camper/Home%20Show_zpsq3zo2sv1.jpg.html)
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae148/armoggy/Camper/Home%20Show%202_zpsjbdguxhc.jpg) (http://s966.photobucket.com/user/armoggy/media/Camper/Home%20Show%202_zpsjbdguxhc.jpg.html)
Whilst not equivelent to what somebody may pay at the bigger shows does give you an idea of costs.
I had a 3x3m inside site, which cost about $1600 ± & then extra for cards, shirts, banner displays etc..... did i get a return.... no probably not but in the economic climate in mackay at the moment it was a case of being seen.
I was actually next to Road Tek Marine & they had a double site & whilst their retailers & i'm service provider the guy there reckons they were way down on previous years for show sales, but again it lifts their profile.
I know Jayco & Complete Campsite had bigger undercover sites so they probably figure its worth it.
Either way if your counting on a home show for sales to cover costs, you could end up dissappointed (in Mackay anyway)
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I can also tell you from experience that at the recent Adelaide show it was well under $10000 for a display area large enough for 3 large ski boats in the centre of one of the halls.
Completely agree. It really does depend on where and who the show is with.
For instance some of the really big regional shows we do the figure is under 2000 and that's for a large site.
If we go to a Melbourne show it is roughly ten regional shows we can't afford to do.
However it all comes down to exposure, so that's the coin we are flipping at the moment. For what some of these shows charge the site holders I'm really surprised that the entry fee isn't donated to charity..
Anyway it's all relative I guess.
Cheers
Nick
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For what some of these shows charge the site holders I'm really surprised that the entry fee isn't donated to charity..
Agree totally.. and the money they rob from you for parking...
If they want people to go to these things, they have to make it worth your while - and in the recent 5+ years they just don't.
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Don't mind paying for parking or the entry fee it's the cost of a hot dog that worries me. $ 8 dollars!!!
Now that's what you call being ripped off!!!
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Don't mind paying for parking or the entry fee
I believe parking was close to $25 last time...
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It's really simple.... If you want to go pay and enjoy. If you don't want to pay... Stay home
Swannie
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It's really simple.... If you want to go pay and enjoy. If you don't want to pay... Stay home
Yep! and I do!
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thought i would update everyone on the frying pan issue,
it was finally resolved today. long story short. they didn't have any of the exact same pans in stock as there where discontinued. so they gave me a new one the same size but not the deep side version. and i got to keep my old one. they also covered shipping as they couldn't supply the exact item.
the pans arrived today in the mail. and to our surprise there was also a hand operated vacuum bag sealer and 4 vacuum bags included in the parcel.
so in the end I'm a bit disappointed i didn't get a replacement of the original pan but i am very happy with their customer service in the end, although it did not get off to a good start.