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Title: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: achjimmy on September 28, 2015, 07:40:10 PM
Where do we stand with light bars in Nsw so is roof mounted okay?

Lately, we have seen reforms on LED light bar mounting from Queensland, South Australia and more recently Western Australia. NSW Roads and Maritime Services is a little late to the party, but has finally released the new amended laws surrounding the fitment of LED light bars. While previously the law dictated that auxiliary driving lights must be fitted in pairs, NSW residents now can run with just one LED light bar if so desired. But as always, there is a catch!
ADR13 has been amended to remove the requirement to fit lights in pairs, providing the lights:
Do not exceed four in total
Are wired in conjunction with the high beam circuit of the vehicle
Are fitted symmetrically about the longitudinal centreline
Face towards the front of the vehicle
Roads and Maritime now exempt vehicles from the requirement to fit additional lights in pairs, as long as all other requirements are met. Hey, I’d call that a win but what do you think?

http://www.unsealed4x4.com.au/latest-led-light-bar-laws-for-nsw/ (http://www.unsealed4x4.com.au/latest-led-light-bar-laws-for-nsw/)

Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: bobnrob on September 28, 2015, 09:01:05 PM
Where do we stand with light bars in Nsw so is roof mounted okay?

Don't know for a fact, but if not mentioned in the amendment, I'd be assuming it'd still be the same...on the roof's allowed, but not wired to highbeam, and only allowed to be used in the bush and not on public roads...which in and of itself was/is a vast mixture of shades of grey, eg: a large number of "bush" roads are public/gazetted roads   ???

NSW residents now can run with just one LED light bar if so desired. But as always, there is a catch!
ADR13 has been amended to remove the requirement to fit lights in pairs, providing the lights:
Do not exceed four in total
Are wired in conjunction with the high beam circuit of the vehicle
Are fitted symmetrically about the longitudinal centreline
Face towards the front of the vehicle
Roads and Maritime now exempt vehicles from the requirement to fit additional lights in pairs, as long as all other requirements are met. Hey, I’d call that a win but what do you think?

http://www.unsealed4x4.com.au/latest-led-light-bar-laws-for-nsw/ (http://www.unsealed4x4.com.au/latest-led-light-bar-laws-for-nsw/)

Sorry, I'm missing the "catch"   :-\
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: firefox on September 28, 2015, 09:28:43 PM
so i'm really curious about this..
I just had a read of  http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/licensing/LBU_VS_IB_132A.pdf (http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/licensing/LBU_VS_IB_132A.pdf)

Anyhow my vehicle is registered in QLD.. been all around the country excluding WA..
Now reading this above bulletin from WA my car is not compliant to WA regulations as it has a light bar on the roof (as well as the front..) So i had someone about three weeks back look at the car like it and then claim i better watch going to WA..

So my setup complies (and was actually inspected at QLD transport)...

If i go to WA (to travel through) does my vehicle have to comply with WA regulations even though it's not registered in WA...? What right does WA transport have to enforce a vehicle regulation when the vehicle is not registered in the state.

Interesting had a conservation with NT cops one night, and found out that if you stay in the state longer then 3 months then the vehicle regulations apply and.... you should have the vehicle registered in the state..?

So if i'm travelling through what happens?

Just curious about this has anyone read/understand the rules on this?? For no reason other then just curious about what the real rules are...
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: Bill on September 28, 2015, 09:40:34 PM
Friend down the road just got back from visiting family in WA.
Wanted to give his brandnew Aussie Swag a run so he drove.
Drives a Hilux with a Light bar on the bullbar and light bar on the roof.
Got pulled up for speeding and nothing was said about his lightbars.
Thats what he told me and I have no reason to doubt him.
Bill
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: oldmate on September 28, 2015, 09:44:59 PM
Friend down the road just got back from visiting family in WA.
Wanted to give his brandnew Aussie Swag a run so he drove.
Drives a Hilux with a Light bar on the bullbar and light bar on the roof.
Got pulled up for speeding and nothing was said about his lightbars.
Thats what he told me and I have no reason to doubt him.
Bill

I doubt him!    For starters, he was in a Hilux, towing an Aussie swag, and got pulled up for speeding??  Come on now we know he is telling fibs.   Hahahahha


Sorry could help it ;D
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: jk on September 28, 2015, 10:28:21 PM
I doubt him!    For starters, he was in a Hilux, towing an Aussie swag, and got pulled up for speeding??  Come on now we know he is telling fibs.   Hahahahha


Sorry could help it ;D


PMSL.................my son has a Hilux and I can relate to that  ;D  ;D  ;D


Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: alnjan on September 28, 2015, 10:38:15 PM
Just shows how wrong Unsealed is.  NSW has been the last to make the 'amendments' as in NSW you could always have a single light or odd number of lights and they did not have to make any amendments.  The Law in NSW never dictated that auxiliary driving lights must be fitted in pairs.  The wording was , 'where possible fitted in pairs'. 

There is no height restriction with the mounting of auxiliary lights, however there is some conjecture over roof mounted lights but it does appear we can legally have light bar mounted to roof racks provided they meet all other requirements including being wired into high beam etc.   
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: Davepatrol on September 28, 2015, 11:06:59 PM
so i'm really curious about this..
I just had a read of  http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/licensing/LBU_VS_IB_132A.pdf (http://www.transport.wa.gov.au/mediaFiles/licensing/LBU_VS_IB_132A.pdf)

Anyhow my vehicle is registered in QLD.. been all around the country excluding WA..
Now reading this above bulletin from WA my car is not compliant to WA regulations as it has a light bar on the roof (as well as the front..) So i had someone about three weeks back look at the car like it and then claim i better watch going to WA..

So my setup complies (and was actually inspected at QLD transport)...

If i go to WA (to travel through) does my vehicle have to comply with WA regulations even though it's not registered in WA...? What right does WA transport have to enforce a vehicle regulation when the vehicle is not registered in the state.

Interesting had a conservation with NT cops one night, and found out that if you stay in the state longer then 3 months then the vehicle regulations apply and.... you should have the vehicle registered in the state..?


 

So if i'm travelling through what happens?

Just curious about this has anyone read/understand the rules on this?? For no reason other then just curious about what the real rules are...


As long as your car is compliant in the State it's registered  in all's well, If you stay longer than 3 months you are no longer classed as a visitor but a resident and rego and licence has to be changed over to that state.

Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: gronk on September 28, 2015, 11:17:54 PM
Try finding all the rules in the RTA website ??  Or the ADR rules ??  Nightmare !!

What you CAN do and what a copper says you CAN'T might be a bit different, but the only thing I found stopping lights going up near the roof was possible glare affecting the driver. And with lights mounted above the bullbar was the obstructing vision rule ( was it 9 or 11 metres ? )

Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: Bill on September 29, 2015, 05:50:49 AM
I doubt him!    For starters, he was in a Hilux, towing an Aussie swag, and got pulled up for speeding??  Come on now we know he is telling fibs.   Hahahahha


Sorry could help it ;D
I thought the same thing.
But he showed me the ticket.
He is so proud that he put it into a frame on the wall in the pool room.
  ;D
Bill
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: McGirr on September 29, 2015, 07:08:34 AM

I have a big 43in curved light bar on top of the bullbar and just come back from a week in Kalgoorlie. I must have seen at least 15 cop cars drive past and none of them approached me.

Mark
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: alnjan on September 29, 2015, 09:01:35 AM
Try finding all the rules in the RTA website ??  Or the ADR rules ??  Nightmare !!

What you CAN do and what a copper says you CAN'T might be a bit different, but the only thing I found stopping lights going up near the roof was possible glare affecting the driver. And with lights mounted above the bullbar was the obstructing vision rule ( was it 9 or 11 metres ? )

11 meters
Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: GUEY on September 29, 2015, 09:39:08 AM
If we can try and get all state rules in one thread it might make life easier for some.

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Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: GUEY on September 29, 2015, 09:40:08 AM
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Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: GUEY on September 29, 2015, 02:02:46 PM
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Title: Re: Nsw light bar rules
Post by: GUEY on September 29, 2015, 02:31:58 PM
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