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revamped the veggie patch a few weeks ago
and its kicking ass. atm.
doing things a little different this season
bulk planting
i will end up with an overabundance of stuff but share it with the neighbours and friends
will get some pics of the rest of the yard maybe in the arvo so it not so gleary
in these boxes i have
broccoli
lettuce
beetroot
rocket
silverbeet
snow peas
+ something else but can't remember ???
the middle box was at times a fish pond with barra and bass + some others
and a turtle pond
it also has solar on the roof for charging 2 x 120 ah batteries for the camper
:cheers:
Adam
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Great set up 8)
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Looks great. You will get so much produce out of there.
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nice garden.
Reminds me i better do some planting.
All the herbs i planted lat year that were a bit dormant over winter have lept back into life.
Hopefuly its a good season
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Looks great, I must get some planting done soon.
I like your retaining wall too!
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Looks great, I must get some planting done soon.
I like your retaining wall too!
what a mission that wall was
built it during the 2011 floods so was held up a lot. the whole wall weighed about 35 tons.
its amazing what 2 men and a shovel can do. actually i bought a engine crane and two hand trolleys. welded the hand trolley wheels onto the engine crane, to move them about the yard. at least 1 of the boulders weighed in at 750 kg
still haven't finished it just a few meters left, ran out of rocks.
:cheers:
Adam
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Nice setup Adam.
We have a slightly different arrangement but still some raised beds. Our main problem is not caterpillars or the like but our resident possums. They must be the healthiest in Qld. Our oranges come under attack from Rainbow Lorries which peck a hole through the skin big enough to get their head in & eat it from the inside. Quite a few times we've thought there has been a few fruit on only to find it's a hollow husk!
Some of our recent produce.
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Nice Steffo
good variety of fruit & veg.
i have a resident possum too.
i must get in and clear the back out so i can grow some melons.
:cheers:
Adam
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Very good can't beat fresh out of the garden vegetables :cup:
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Geez Adam, from a mower man's point of view...... are you friggin crazy. ;D
All those edges and crap to mow around..... ffffttttt.
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Nice.
We are thinking of getting an aquaponics system.
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Looking good.
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Great thread- especially at this time of year!!
Looks good Adam, nothing like getting your hands dirty and enjoying the rewards of your labours!
I am doing a major revamp of my patch- brand new raised sleeper beds, all ready for full-on attack.
Am thinking of doing the no-dig newspaper/ straw/compost thing rather than straight soil- with wicking underneath, to eliminate the need for daily watering (so we can go camping for a few days in warmer weather :D and the garden not dehydrate too much).
Any swaggers out there with any experience or stories to tell re this??
Am trying to post a pic - but having lots of trouble, so apologies if it's not there......
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Hey, I did it!!! :D
Post a pic, that is! :D Not bad for a dinosaur!!
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Geez Adam, from a mower man's point of view...... are you friggin crazy. ;D
All those edges and crap to mow around..... ffffttttt.
haven't finished yet at some stage i will get some deco and put a mow strip along the wall and around the patches.
still as is only takes 1/2 hour to mow and snip.
Nice.
We are thinking of getting an aquaponics system.
i was trying that myself,
when i had the fish pond 2000ltr in the middle it had a watering system to water the veggie patch. but i kept getting bad algae plumes, so i put the roof on to reduce the light, to no avail.
had that system running for over 3 years, and the fish got quite big 30+ cm (4-7cm when i got them)
most of the system ran off 12v solar but also added a 240v bilge pump on a timer.
this added heaps of oxygen and flow to the water and the fish seem to like it too.
i then derigged that and turned it into a micro eco system, with turtles and fish but a lot less water about 800ltr.
had that running real good, then someone pinched one of the turtles (would tell the kids it was hiding)
it had a water plant filter that ran down a waterfall , then ran through a gravel filter and water the plants.
in both systems as i watered the plants i would then top the pond back up.
i do believe the aquaponics system you buy / make, would be a lot less maintenance compared to what i had.
but mine was more about the visual than practical.
:cheers:
Adam
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Great thread- especially at this time of year!!
Looks good Adam, nothing like getting your hands dirty and enjoying the rewards of your labours!
I am doing a major revamp of my patch- brand new raised sleeper beds, all ready for full-on attack.
Am thinking of doing the no-dig newspaper/ straw/compost thing rather than straight soil- with wicking underneath, to eliminate the need for daily watering (so we can go camping for a few days in warmer weather :D and the garden not dehydrate too much).
Any swaggers out there with any experience or stories to tell re this??
Am trying to post a pic - but having lots of trouble, so apologies if it's not there......
Thanks JayJay
i wish i had spent the extra and got some nice looking sleepers like yours
im not into the no dig system
my gardens now look like soil but started as wood chip mainly
i always make mounds to plant in and fill the divots with sugar cane mulch
after each year i dig in some extra mulch and pine bark chip(soft fall) this helps keep air pockets in the soil and retain moisture.
this year i added too one of the patches as it was getting low
1/4 meter of mushroom compost
1/4 meter soft fall
1/2 bag of sugar cane mulch
bit of worm compost
(note that if you want to grow from seed this mix may be a bit coarse but will be ok next crop)
i dont normally need to add this much, norm is 1 x bag soft fall 1/3 bag sugarcane per year per patch
other half a bag of sugar cane to mulch the top
:cheers:
Adam
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Great thread- especially at this time of year!!
Looks good Adam, nothing like getting your hands dirty and enjoying the rewards of your labours!
I am doing a major revamp of my patch- brand new raised sleeper beds, all ready for full-on attack.
Am thinking of doing the no-dig newspaper/ straw/compost thing rather than straight soil- with wicking underneath, to eliminate the need for daily watering (so we can go camping for a few days in warmer weather :D and the garden not dehydrate too much).
Any swaggers out there with any experience or stories to tell re this??
Am trying to post a pic - but having lots of trouble, so apologies if it's not there......
I got 2 ton of mushroom compost ( where the mushies in the pics came from) & mixed it with soil & our own compost.
Our soil here is very shaley & so difficult to turn but has a lot of nutrients so fair's fair I suppose. I found that to get a good compost going moisture content is the key. Too much or too little & it won't break down as it should. We're on tank water so I have to be a bit careful with my water use. I have a sheet of clear elsonite which I cover the bins with in heavy rain.
We just keep topping up the raised beds with the mix & mixing it with the natural ground in the other gardens.
I make up 2 x 44 gal drums of Seasol for the fruit trees. It can be a lot of hard yakka but the fruits of the labour are worth it.
Good Luck
Steve
p.s. the plastic garden edging is not successful!
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p.s. the plastic garden edging is not successful!
good to know i have been thinking of doing that
what's the plant in the last pic? will take a guess finger lime vanilla bean
and your cheating your yards a bit bigger than your standard block
but very impressive
:cheers:
Adam
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What the **** did you feed that Red Onion on!
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good to know i have been thinking of doing that
what's the plant in the last pic? will take a guess finger lime vanilla bean
Adam
They're broad beans & we lost a few to..............................our kookaburras! They would strip the shell off & eat the innards. We chased them off a few times but to no avail. Fake owls don't work either!
Photo shows aftermath.
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Had a truck deliver 4 cubes of that dirty black gritty stuff to poke seeds in earlier this week. Pulled out the old shovel and transferred the stuff into the corrugated steel raised garden beds I put up about 6 months ago. So this morning, when the kids wake up, I will get them to put the seeds in the black stuff that is in the raised garden beds and hopefully we will have cherry tomatoes, iceberg lettuce, strawberry, carrots, capsicum, coriander, cucumber and some other green eating things.
If I have problems with birds I will get some reo bar, poly pipe and some netting to stop them and in the colder months replace the netting with clear plastic to turn it into a pot hot house , but not sure what to do with possums if they re appear.
On the instructions on the back of the seed packet it says to feed them ??? Me thinks they mite starve as my wife is not much of a cook.
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We bit the bullet last week and bought an aquaponics system.
Last Saturday we filled up the grow beds, washed she dust off, did the plumbing.
Earlier this week we filled up the 1000 liter fish tank and tested the plumbing: no leaks.
Yesterday the fish went in, 20 baby silver perches. If you look very closely you can see them.
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Now that's a good set up mate. Are you sure you don't have any herons or the like in your area ;D
Please keep us posted on the results.
Steve
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nice bit of kit wilsurf
interested how long it takes the fish to get some size to them
:cheers:
Adam
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They say round 18 months to plate size.
As I am not a great fish eater (those bones has put me off when I was little) we haven't gone for Barramundi / Trout.
Next Saturday we will try to get some nice koi as well.
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They say round 18 months to plate size.
As I am not a great fish eater (those bones has put me off when I was little) we haven't gone for Barramundi / Trout.
Next Saturday we will try to get some nice koi as well.
that's not bad i had a few in my pond 7cm to 38cm in two years
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The system is still running. ;D
Only 2 casualties. We bought 4 nice little koi's and 10 bigger silvers.
Two of the new silvers died within 2 days, probably from the shock.
They love the food, every time they come to the surface when you show up around feed time.
Some of the plants are doing well, some others are struggling. But I think the system is still cycling so not up to its potential yet.
My wife sowed some seeds and they were sprouting quickly.
Now to make a cover for the fish tank as the sun is heating up the water and a shade cloth doesn't look nice.
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Well a big weekend in the garden again
raised all the citrus trees in the front garden and pulled a few weeds along the way
the before pics
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now put the phone down and and start raising them
in there you should now be able to see most plants
on the fence a grape
then lemon, orange(early),another orange (late) and a mandarin at the end (around the corner a little bit more is a blood orange)
scattered under the citrus is pineapples and have 9 in fruit atm (ummo)
last week i also had a lime, passion fruit and a bottle brush tree in the same area but are now firewood
both had borers and couldn't be saved
the passion fruits time was up
most of the trees are about 7 years old and this was their first prune,so hopefully wont have to do anything to them for a least 2-3 years
started off with removing all the lower branches, to give the raised effect, then removing some of the branches to open up the canopy a bit
while pruning i also use some black past to seal the wounds and stop infections
i think i did ok
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and some of the back yard
i have a macadamia, paw paw, more pine apples, peanuts, and something else but that will have to remain a mystery till it fruits as i forgot
also her is Paige's teardrop cubby/shop with swag flag
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Looking good Adam. Watch the pine apples seeing you have possums. One of our furry little friends did this in one night!
My wife has nearly perfected "Her Method" for boiling our peanuts. We have a crop which is probably ready to be picked so she may try soon. Also, keep an eye on them as they will run amok if unattended.
Steve
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Looking good Adam. Watch the pine apples seeing you have possums. One of our furry little friends did this in one night!
My wife has nearly perfected "Her Method" for boiling our peanuts. We have a crop which is probably ready to be picked so she may try soon. Also, keep an eye on them as they will run amok if unattended.
Steve
yes i now cover my pineapples with wire mesh (shaped like a cone ) that i slip over when they are getting close to ripe
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Adam
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Looks great Adam.
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With a garden like that you must have European heritage, 'If you can't eat it don't grow it' :)
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With a garden like that you must have European heritage, 'If you can't eat it don't grow it' :)
slowly weeding the non edible trees out.
i've taken out about15 trees by hand and also had 4 x 40 ft palms trees removed.
i have two mock orange left beside the trampoline. one has been marked to go asap
and three lilli pillies down beside the macadamia tree. one has asked to go asap, starting to interfere with the nut tree. the other two are wanting a haircut, starting to touch the house.
do it mostly for the kids. they love their fruit and veg especially direct from the garden.
actually in 2004 when we bought the place i started doing a native garden. you can still see some native plants here and there in the garden but most struggled to grow, then did a complete back flip into the edible garden
would love to start a co-op type thing with others close in my area,
grow and share with others doing the same
:cheers:
Adam
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do it mostly for the kids. they love their fruit and veg especially direct from the garden.
Yep, me too. It's good to get them interested in it and understand what it takes to produce food.
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Yep, me too. It's good to get them interested in it and understand what it takes to produce food.
yep if there's nothing in the fruit bowl there's a whole garden of food outside
they also get some pocket money for helping weed the veg patches.
its funny sometimes what people don't know about the food they eat
i get so many comments on the pineapples as there right at the front fence
"OH i didn't realise that pineapples grew above the ground" (OMG where have you been)
most think they grow like potatoes under the ground
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Adam
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Wifey ordered 10m³ of mulch the other day which was successfully delivered yesterday arvo. Guess what I'm doing?
Steve
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Wifey ordered 10m³ of mulch the other day which was successfully delivered yesterday arvo. Guess what I'm doing?
Steve
Better you than me! Bloke a couple of doors down from me can supply me with mulch, so I asked for half a truck load. I didn't realise how much mulch half an 8 tonne truck can actually carry.. :-[
On the gardening side of things, my corn is a dismal failure this year. The last few years they've all been 6 foot plus - this year they're about 3 foot high and not getting any bigger. ??? Capsicum and Chili's are going banana's though!
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Capsicum and Chili's are going banana's though!
Something is very wrong there.......
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gotta love the mulch, but 10m3 that's gonna take a lot of beers
found a native bee hive the other day at work, so atm im trying to duplicate it so i can have a hive at home.
seems to be working as planned so far.
:cheers:
Adam
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Wifey ordered 10m³ of mulch the other day which was successfully delivered yesterday arvo. Guess what I'm doing?
Steve
Get yourself one of those plastic scoops they use to muck out stables, much easier/quicker than a shovel.
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Get yourself one of those plastic scoops they use to muck out stables, much easier/quicker than a shovel.
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It's a bit funny really. I've developed a pretty good production line. A 4 in 1 bucket on the tractor so I just sit on it, pick up a bucket o' mulch, dump it where she wants it & her and a friend do the raking & spreading..................................well they can't operate the machine now, hey.
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It's a bit funny really. I've developed a pretty good production line. A 4 in 1 bucket on the tractor so I just sit on it, pick up a bucket o' mulch, dump it where she wants it & her and a friend do the raking & spreading..................................well they can't operate the machine now, hey.
thats cheating
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gotta love the mulch, but 10m3 that's gonna take a lot of beers
found a native bee hive the other day at work, so atm im trying to duplicate it so i can have a hive at home.
seems to be working as planned so far.
:cheers:
Adam
Adam, this is a setup I've got for the native solitary bees. I had to get rid of a fallen gum so cut a piece to fit a bit of 250 Ø pvc pipe I had lying around.
I drilled 8 mm Ø holes around 100-120 mm deep. It's placed over the bird bath for water access. The natives are great for pollination.
Steve
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Adam, this is a setup I've got for the native solitary bees. I had to get rid of a fallen gum so cut a piece to fit a bit of 250 Ø pvc pipe I had lying around.
I drilled 8 mm Ø holes around 100-120 mm deep. It's placed over the bird bath for water access. The natives are great for pollination.
Steve
hey that looks alright
might make something like that too
we quite often see blue banded bees in the patch
the ones i trying to get now are stingless native bees. will be a painful 10 weeks to see if they take up residents in the new hive.
:cheers:
Adam
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This was in the Jardin du Luxembourg in Paris. It was early spring this year & when I enquired about the lack of activity, I was informed by a local that it was still a bit cool. There were several of these scattered throughout the gardens.
Steve
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i can almost tick this one off the list
was originally 600mm higher before i attacked it with the shovel
this area had been causing a few drainage problems
next weekend the pergola comes down to be followed by some turf
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Pity I'm going away over Easter.....................................now!:)
I hope this humidity buggers off for you.
The pics are after we cleaned out the vegie gardens near the house. Rattus rattus must have resented the lack of fresh tucker & paid a house visit, chewing through the kitchen window screen.
In it's defence we only picked the pawpaw that evening & it did have a wonderfully delicious aroma.
The fresh dug peanuts must have been the entrée.
Got the invader last night!
I'm a bit surprised that we had a rat near the house as I put a carpet python into the roof in early Feb & we normally have 3 or 4 hanging around the place. Ask Broncos11 about that :)
Steve
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Pity I'm going away over Easter.....................................now!:)
I hope this humidity buggers off for you.
Steve
Oh ship so am i
might have to do some work on it during the week (take the roof sheets down)
saturday was the killer day worked on it from 12-7pm then moved onto :cheers: o'clock
sunday humidity wasn't as bad spent 9.30 - 5pm then some :cheers:
had some down time also on sunday waiting for the rapid set to go off in the last post hole
:cheers:
Adam
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well i can call this job 90% finished now.
lets see how long it takes to do the last 10%
pics from last weekend and this weekend
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Adam
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Looking good. The last 10% is always 100% necessary!
Steve
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Another episode of "The Healthy Possums"
Paw paw, passionfruit & navel orange diet.
Steve
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hey that looks alright
might make something like that too
we quite often see blue banded bees in the patch
the ones i trying to get now are stingless native bees. will be a painful 10 weeks to see if they take up residents in the new hive.
:cheers:
Adam
Hey Adam, how are your bees going?
Steve
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i haven't had a look inside for a few months
but there not doing as the instructs said they should.
the bees were building a nest in a crack in the wall.
instead of building their new nest in the box they have decided to build in the tube
so i will leave it and see if the nest becomes big enough to also move into the box.
see what happens i spose.
besides the possums, your fruit trees are looking good
:cheers:
Adam
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Looks like a good season for squash this year. (Here anyway!)
Steve
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After some help/advice.
My sweet corn planted from seedlings took off till it got to about 2ft tall and seems to have stopped. The head grew a few kernels and it looked to have a corn grow out from down low but it has stopped as well.
Snow peas are going nuts but no fruit yet
Strawberries appear to be a failure but the tomatoes have heaps of golf ball size or bigger fruit but waiting to ripen
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After some help/advice.
My sweet corn planted from seedlings took off till it got to about 2ft tall and seems to have stopped. The head grew a few kernels and it looked to have a corn grow out from down low but it has stopped as well.
Snow peas are going nuts but no fruit yet
Strawberries appear to be a failure but the tomatoes have heaps of golf ball size or bigger fruit but waiting to ripen
A bit hard to say with not knowing your weather but I can say that, with regard to the corn, we would be thinking of planting/sowing now.
Good luck with it.
Steve
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Yes should have mentioned weather.
No frosts yet. The days have been unbelievably warm for this time of the year ie low to mid 20's. Nights are only in the last week or so starting to get cool but not single digits yet when I leave for work in the morning at 5.00-5.30 it is anywhere from 13 to 17 degrees.. No rain but they are being watered.
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It's a sad few days.
We have lost almost 50% of our fish so far.
7 on Saturday, 7 on Monday and 4 this morning.
All of a sudden they are slow reacting and turn over. They look healthy without any defects.
We have started to run the pump 24/7, increased the flow rate of the aerator and stopped feeding as there was food on the bottom of the tank.
We also have replaced 20-25% of water on Saturday and yesterday.
My wife will buy ammonia and nitrite test kit and test the water for those.
The PH was 6.8-7.2.
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It's a sad few days.
We have lost almost 50% of our fish so far.
7 on Saturday, 7 on Monday and 4 this morning.
All of a sudden they are slow reacting and turn over. They look healthy without any defects.
We have started to run the pump 24/7, increased the flow rate of the aerator and stopped feeding as there was food on the bottom of the tank.
We also have replaced 20-25% of water on Saturday and yesterday.
My wife will buy ammonia and nitrite test kit and test the water for those.
The PH was 6.8-7.2.
Where is your water coming from Wilco? Hopefully not from a galvanised rainwater tank or off a galvanised roof, if you have it is probably zinc poisoning.
That pH is fine, just need to check your ammonia levels, how many fish in how many litres and what volume of grow beds? Best advice is usually, keep up aeration/pumping, leave the water alone and stop feeding. Every time you do a partial water change it causes more stress so don't do it unless you have too (high ammonia).
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Water is from the tap Mike.
We had 38 fish in 1500 liter water tank and 2 growbeds of 500 liter each.
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have you or the neighbours sprayed any chemicals close by that may have poisoned them
i use to use an algaecide in my pond to control string algae and gave them a overdose by accident and killed a few fish
besides algae problems i never had an issue with water quality
is high ammonia caused by high nutrients.. ie are too much nutrients coming back through the grow beds ?
:cheers:
Adam
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My wife tested the water: Ammonia .25ppm, Nitrate 10ppm, PH was 7.2, temp 13 C.
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Silver Perch pretty much stop eating over winter. Stop feeding all together until water warms again in late spring, otherwise I am at a loss sorry.
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Yeah we got the help from Cheidys Aquaponics where we bought the system from.
Nitrites: 0 ppm,
Nitrates: 10 ppm,
Ammonia: 0.25 ppm,
Ph: 7.3
Water temperature: 14.5.
So it seems that all values are fine.
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Final results so far:
Left: 4 koi and 7 silver perches.
Dead: 25 silver perches.
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A long time but this is from our latest chilli crop.
Sorry about the photo quality.
Steve
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Sambal, yummie.
We have a second system up and running after a colleague gave away 6 koi.
They were too big (the largest over 50 cm) to join the silver perches so a new system was ordered and delivered.
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The koi are slowly getting used to us, they are coming to the surface for their food.
The lemon tree is overloaded with fruit, so I have started to make my own lemon marmalade. It is not bad at all.
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Mmmm. Marmalade!! :cup:
I may have come up with a way to stop our fruit being eaten! ;D
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Silenced .22 and night score works wonders as well, I'm told
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If you haven't seen these before give them a go. They're "Daikon" and will break up heavy soil. They're also delish.
Steve