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Title: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: duggie on July 17, 2015, 07:39:43 AM
Hello peoples,

I came across this Video on my facebook page, if everyone did this when camping there would not be so many brown and white butterflies flying about in the bush.


http://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1507/how-to-poo-in-the-bush/ (http://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1507/how-to-poo-in-the-bush/)

cheers duggie.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Aaron Schubert on July 17, 2015, 07:48:30 AM
Not a bad video at all; people are feral when it comes to keeping our bush clean. It's really not that hard.

Aaron
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: plusnq on July 17, 2015, 08:38:25 AM
Its pretty sad when someone feels the need to have to make a video............
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: duggie on July 17, 2015, 08:55:40 AM
Its pretty sad when someone feels the need to have to make a video............

I must agree, but if and when you ever get a chance to travel up to the tip of Cape York along any of the tracks, you will see first hand how bad this is.  Every tree within walking distance form any camp spot have unburied turds sitting on the ground,nearly every tree and bush has used toilet paper hanging off branches.

People wonder why grazing properties and camping areas are locking people out, it is a problem, and maybe some people need to be educated.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: wilson79 on July 17, 2015, 09:29:24 AM
In todays society of chemical toilets I don't know why people still have to Shit in the scrub?
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Kangaron on July 17, 2015, 10:31:03 AM
He left out a very important bit at the end.
He didn't mark the spot.
Take 4 twigs and place them thus #
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: dales133 on July 17, 2015, 11:50:08 AM
In todays society of chemical toilets I don't know why people still have to Shit in the scrub?
X2
Given the choice I'd rather crap in a portaloo too but there are some mongrals around
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: austastar on July 17, 2015, 11:58:42 AM
Hi,
   Didn't show the  shovel handle knee brace  needed by most over the age of 50.
Cheers
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Diesel Power on July 17, 2015, 12:52:32 PM
No wonder WA has made it mandatory for Portaloos when camping if there are no facilities.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: db on July 17, 2015, 01:04:29 PM
In todays society of chemical toilets I don't know why people still have to Shit in the scrub?
I don't have a chemical toilet, and I (and my kids) know how to do what he just showed. We have a pack in the car at all times, has paper, matches and hand sanitiser. Shovel lives in the car too. If there is a toilet around we'll use that.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: robbo1172 on July 17, 2015, 01:10:23 PM
Needs to do a video on when to crap. As an example, I walked into the tent yesterday and there was a feathered scavenger in there. It was trying to get out as I was trying to get in. I went mighty close let me tell ya...

Robbo
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: tk421 on July 17, 2015, 01:37:17 PM
In todays society of chemical toilets I don't know why people still have to Shit in the scrub?
.

X2
Given the choice I'd rather crap in a portaloo too but there are some mongrals around

Carrying a full portaloo in the back of my wagon for 5 days across the desert or crap in a hole? I know which I'd rather do
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: noel_w on July 17, 2015, 01:43:59 PM
No wonder WA has made it mandatory for Portaloos when camping if there are no facilities.
Sorry, think I missed the point here, where do you find a dump point along the Gunbarrel highway for example, especially if you were taking your time to travel it. Don't think I would like to have a full porta potti sitting in the back of my car for a couple of weeks.
It really depends where you are travelling through, I think there is still a very handy need for the good old shovel.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: dales133 on July 17, 2015, 02:13:17 PM
What happened to leave nothing but footprints....I don't think it means footprints either side of a great big grogan
Granted there's the odd ocasion but it should be the exception not the norm
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Rumpig on July 17, 2015, 05:22:25 PM
i reckon his hole should be dug deeper myself, but i like the fact he's made the effort to have a go at the grubs out there that can't do the right thing  8)
I'm happy to use either a chemical toilet or a shovel, both work just as good as each other, just depends on where we are or where camped as to which one we use.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: slydar on July 17, 2015, 05:32:58 PM
same here - I hate walking through the dunes and finding reams of toilet paper stretched across the sand as much as I hate stepping over petrified nuggets
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Moggy on July 17, 2015, 07:12:53 PM
Not trying to be argumentative or a protagonist, & yes i agree with the sentiment expressed & would have no problem complying with the request,..........

however what about the millions & i mean millions of wild animals, feral dogs, camels, horses, kangaroos etc etc that roam the great outback, dont see them carrying around a shovel...... to bury their crap

Before you jump on my throat, i can appreciate the watercourse & paper issue, but wouldnt a turd in the outback with little or no humidity & exposed to the dry desert sun turn to a crunchy rock apple inside 3 days & then dust.

And before i get lambasted over human consumption/disease/waste vs animal waste....what difference does it make if its buried  ???

I do however like his presentation skills... straight to the point & pulls no punches... my kinda bloke  ;D
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: austastar on July 17, 2015, 07:24:23 PM
Hi,
   The herbivore faeces are not as gross as the carnivore or omnivore faeces.
Bury it.
Cheers
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Rumpig on July 17, 2015, 07:29:13 PM
Not trying to be argumentative or a protagonist, & yes i agree with the sentiment expressed & would have no problem complying with the request,..........

however what about the millions & i mean millions of wild animals, feral dogs, camels, horses, kangaroos etc etc that roam the great outback, dont see them carrying around a shovel...... to bury their crap

Before you jump on my throat, i can appreciate the watercourse & paper issue, but wouldnt a turd in the outback with little or no humidity & exposed to the dry desert sun turn to a crunchy rock apple inside 3 days & then dust.

And before i get lambasted over human consumption/disease/waste vs animal waste....what difference does it make if its buried  ???

I do however like his presentation skills... straight to the point & pulls no punches... my kinda bloke  ;D
one reason we don't own a dog...when they come with their bum holes sewn up, i'll get one  ;) Absolutely hate dog crap about the place, and hate lazy pet owners who don't clean up after their pets either  >:(
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: dales133 on July 17, 2015, 07:29:49 PM
Fair point moggy but heavily populated camping areas or we'll worn tracks would be revolting to say the least if everyone just took a dump where the please....plus this is australia land of the flies.
Don't need to attract them unnecessary or have them land on your steak after they've just done river dance on old mates pooh
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: BaseCamp on July 17, 2015, 08:38:57 PM
Hi,
   The herbivore faeces are not as gross as the carnivore or omnivore faeces.
Bury it.
Cheers


shoot; call me Veronica!!  thanks for that gem...      Now I have to get that image out of my mind (about the different varieties)    RAFLMAF

 ;D             ;D                 ;D

 
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Diesel Power on July 17, 2015, 10:26:22 PM
I too would rather dig a hole and set up the Jimmys Thunderbox. But with an Electric flush toilet in Camper with Wife and Daughter, it's good for middle of the night calling.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Andreweasty90 on July 18, 2015, 01:25:17 AM
I don't see what is hard about burying it, I know what some see hard about it they don't want to get a blister from using a shovel   


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Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: tracker on July 18, 2015, 02:09:38 AM
G'Day,
           The part i don't get is!!!.....How do the kid's learn when the parents teach these grubby habits.....Its a frigging crime......Just saying

                                             Cheers Tracker.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: oldmate on July 18, 2015, 07:30:19 AM
Fair point moggy but heavily populated camping areas or we'll worn tracks would be revolting to say the least if everyone just took a dump where the please....plus this is australia land of the flies.
Don't need to attract them unnecessary or have them land on your steak after they've just done river dance on old mates pooh

Hey leave my pooh out of it.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: dales133 on July 18, 2015, 09:57:05 AM
Ha ha ha
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: rotare on July 18, 2015, 11:01:51 AM
A video is a great idea, but like so many things unfortunately those who really need to watch it probably won't.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Kangaron on July 18, 2015, 11:13:24 AM
heavily populated camping areas or we'll worn tracks

But this dosnt apply to well populated camping areas [like sheepyard or knockwood]
or to well worn tracks,[like GRR or Birdsville track etc].
We are talking about camping / crapping in the bush.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Symon on July 18, 2015, 12:19:07 PM
In todays society of chemical toilets I don't know why people still have to Shit in the scrub?

I have a real problem with #$%&ing in a bucket, even if there are chemicals in it.  I also have a problem with people emptying them in bins or worse along the side of the road rather than at dump points.  Yes that does happen.

Give me a shovel any day.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: avotrol on July 18, 2015, 01:56:13 PM
Up till now we have used both the portaloo and the shovel methods.

When using the shovel, we throw half a cap of petrol / metho etc on the goods and burn all the paper then bury what's left in the nice deep hole, WELL AWAY from watercourses, tracks, campsites etc.

When the portaloo needs emptying and there are no dump points, I simply dig a extra deep hole (again away from everywhere) and empty the contents nice and slow, which allows the water to be absorbed, then bury it. This can be done because we only use the Bio friendly treatment (which works really well and is designed to enhance composting systems) NOT the stinky pink and blue chemicals that will probably kill anything. Problem solved.

In the future, I am going to get a composting toilet like the one that Kimberly Kampers are promoting on their website.

 :cheers: avo
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: KeithB on July 18, 2015, 03:49:09 PM
Does anyone know what brand of composting toilets Kimberley use?
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: BaseCamp on July 18, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
there's a great 6 min vid on this link that tells you all about it..

http://www.kimberleykaravans.com/offroad-caravan-bathroom-and-toilet (http://www.kimberleykaravans.com/offroad-caravan-bathroom-and-toilet)

 :cheers:
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Beachman on July 20, 2015, 12:43:19 PM
I don’t have a problem with people digging a hole to do their business as long as that hole is at least the depth of the shovel head and they backfill everything including the paper.  My beef is then they do it on top of the ground and try and cover it with a handful of dirt or sand. So apart from the dangers of someone else standing on it, it looks visually disgusting.   
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: gronk on July 20, 2015, 09:24:47 PM
Hi,
   Didn't show the  shovel handle knee brace  needed by most over the age of 50.
Cheers

I'm well over 50 and don't need it yet, but please explain ??
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: EnviroKat on July 20, 2015, 09:55:14 PM
well said by the video maker....

we have purchased a port-a-loo specifically to make sure we can go places that require you to be self-contained. But really it's not that hard to dig a hole when required... sad fact that people don't... just like those who leave rubbish behind...
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: austastar on July 20, 2015, 10:02:24 PM
I'm well over 50 and don't need it yet, but please explain ??
Hi,
    When the knees won't do the Asian Squat, the shovel makes a good support to get upright without getting right amongst it.
Cheers
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: austastar on July 20, 2015, 10:11:30 PM
Incidently, we had a bunch of European back packers camp near us on an open gibber area.
The girls had not gone far for their morning pee, and left paper on the ground near their wet spots.
SHMBO issued each of them with a zip lock plastic bag to go and collect their papers and pocket it till it could be burnt in the last of the evening fire.
They took the lesson well. What seems so obvious to us was just not considered  by them. It hadn't even occured to them that some one else would walk there.

Cheers
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: cheif carlos on July 20, 2015, 10:20:39 PM
I was thinking through the video he was going to drop his strides every time he adjusted his non-existing belted duds.

But more importantly I walk at least 100m into bush before dropping management off at the pool, also nothing worse than someone walking in on you.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: nab on July 20, 2015, 11:44:52 PM
I normally dig a 800mm-1m hole for the dump, can use the hole numerous times (covering each load after use). Comes in handy with 3 kids...
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: gronk on July 21, 2015, 09:11:04 AM
I normally dig a 800mm-1m hole for the dump, can use the hole numerous times (covering each load after use). Comes in handy with 3 kids...

I do the same.....IF I can get a hole that deep.......some ground just isn't soft enough to get any deeper than the shovel head.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: Aussie Iron on July 21, 2015, 05:12:09 PM
Here You Go.
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Dan
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: heath74 on July 22, 2015, 08:36:05 PM
if you are going to make a video on the topic, at least dig a decent hole, I reckon 400 is a minimum. But I guess it's hard to dig that deep when your horse is so high.
Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: avotrol on July 24, 2015, 05:59:29 PM
Here You Go.
                             https://db1736767dbd5e7094bb-d61bbc5d0b342a54145a236e2d5d1ebf.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/Product-800x800/6ff599f1-2a12-41e7-bff1-08cb124c1155.jpg (https://db1736767dbd5e7094bb-d61bbc5d0b342a54145a236e2d5d1ebf.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.com/Product-800x800/6ff599f1-2a12-41e7-bff1-08cb124c1155.jpg)

Dan

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Title: Re: How to crap in the bush when camping.
Post by: austastar on July 24, 2015, 06:36:04 PM
There are even books on it.


cheers