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Title: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: McGirr on February 25, 2015, 09:44:14 PM

As the topic says considering a long range fuel tank to replace the sub tank on the cruiser. The spare will sit on the toog rack for now.

Fuel here is $2.10 a ltr and to drive to Kulgera to top up is 146 klm and they are $1.75 per ltr.

So the question is what size is best and what brand and also how hard are they to install. As we will be here for a while and want to explore places it seems to be the logical thing to do.

Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: HEM19X on February 26, 2015, 03:28:20 AM
Hey Mark hope you are settling into the Red Centre!! [or are they settling into you?]

ARB provide Longranger tanks while TJM sell Brown & Davis. Have had both and the only issues we have had is the Distance to Empty on the new BT50 is not accurate - not a problem for a sub tank I guess.

They can be DIY fitted but by design, they will be a very snug fit into the available space under the Cruiser - also they weigh a bit so access to a lift might be good.

Given you location, you might be best contacting them direct to see if there is anybody local to fit it, if you decide to go that way.

All the best

Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: fuji on February 26, 2015, 05:46:05 AM
I think they are both much of a muchness. Tight fit with a three inch exhaust but they are made to fit. Looked at both and decided there would be a lot of weight on towball so opted for Scoot to weld up more brackets on the AS. I can carry 80 litres on the ct now.  A 90 litre tank on the 76 is not a lot. Heading up towards Kulgera and beyond in June so hope to catch up. Cheers
Wayne
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: Team Evil on February 26, 2015, 06:27:57 AM
I dont think Ironman do a tank for your cruiser.


Fuji

I got the Ironman tank fitted my 76 cruiser.

And the fitting instructions are on the website.

http://www.ironman4x4.com/fitting-instructions/long-range-fuel-tanks (http://www.ironman4x4.com/fitting-instructions/long-range-fuel-tanks)


Helps a lot touring..
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: muzza01 on February 26, 2015, 07:20:18 AM
My brother replaced his 45lt tank with a 180 lt tank on his 100 series Cruza now 270 lt range. It was done at ARB in Cairns, I can find out how much $$ if you want.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: D4D on February 26, 2015, 07:27:45 AM
As Hem stated, Long Ranger is the go. I had one in my shorty, only prob is the getting the fuel gauge accurate but this is common across all aftermarket tanks.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: McGirr on February 26, 2015, 07:56:17 AM

I will give ARB Alice Springs a call to find out prices.

Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: jk on February 26, 2015, 10:37:47 AM
Ours was a perfect fit Mark, all the inlet, outlet pipes and wiring were all plug and play......easy as ( I fitted it at home in a few hours ) ! The rear replacement holds 170l and when added to the 90l main it's a big improvement on the factory 135l set up ( double  :cup: ).
It only hurts when it's fill time  :'( ........$1.75 per lt x 260l = $455.00.........but it's only money.......right  ;D

I'm pretty sure ours is a Brown & Davis also !

Cheers
Johnno
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: ronmac on February 26, 2015, 11:13:40 AM
Do you have an old box trailer you could tie a 44 gal drum on, then refuel next time your'e in town. cheers Ron.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: FNQBunyip on February 26, 2015, 11:42:13 AM
This is a "NEED" Mark not a "WANT" .. You should have no problem fitting one yourself ..
As long as you can work on a concrete floor with a jack or 2 ..

cheers 
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: McGirr on February 26, 2015, 01:55:35 PM

Only have dirt where the cruiser is parked. May wait till I have a week off and head to alice and get it installed plus fuel is alot cheaper there.

The camper can hold 4 jerry cans but dont want to take it with me just to go sight seeing.

will keep you updated thanks for the replies.

Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: Rumpig on February 26, 2015, 06:31:12 PM
I have a Longranger 185ltr tank on my Cruiser, to date I have no issues with it, but as already mentioned the 3" exhaust is a very snug fit. The only downside I will say I've noticed is the weight behind the axle once the tank is filled and my KK on the back. I reckon I likely exceed GVM when I'm fully loaded up, and can definately notice the Cruiser wallows some in the rear end when fully loaded up. Drive accordingly and it's not a major issue IMHO.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: pinarelloman on February 26, 2015, 06:45:28 PM
Mark, I am not sure if you have a 105 or 100 series. I have had both and fitted a Long Ranger tank to both. The fitment is an easy 3hr job at home. The new models do not require sender modification as they come already done. Prices as of yesterday were $ 1165 approx, plus $400 fitting.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: McGirr on February 26, 2015, 07:02:33 PM
I have a 105 model cruiser.

Yes I was concerned about the weight. I have airbags in the rear and in future will be getting a hybrid van.
Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: Rumpig on February 26, 2015, 07:04:44 PM
Prices as of yesterday were $ 1165 approx, plus $400 fitting.
as a comparison, from memory i think I paid just over $1300 fitted and mod plated at ARB about 3 years ago. TJM were cheaper by several hundred dollars for the brand they sold, but at that time ARB had what I wanted in stock and TJM were atleast a months wait time to get it, so I payed the extra and had it fitted in a week. Keep in mind that if someone like ARB fits it, they need to fill the tank to test it, so you need to budget for the fuel on top of the tank cost and fitting.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: edz on February 26, 2015, 07:21:50 PM
Hey McGirr, dont know how your off for space in the rear footwells or cargo deck, but what about a fuel cell [race car style ] in an ally case or just a heavy duty fuel bladder like the water ones you can get, for the foot wells [ works ok for aircraft on long haul ferry flights ] , easier to fit when needed and remove when not, And not carrying dead weight when not ..
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: McGirr on February 26, 2015, 07:24:21 PM
Hey McGirr, dont know how your off for space in the rear footwells or cargo deck, but what about a fuel cell [race car style ] in an ally case or just a heavy duty fuel bladder like the water ones you can get, for the foot wells [ works ok for aircraft on long haul ferry flights ] , easier to fit when needed and remove when not, And not carrying dead weight when not ..

cargo area full and foot wells full as I have a full draw system etc in the rear

Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: V8CRSA on February 26, 2015, 08:43:21 PM
Mark,

We have just ordered a long ranger from ARB for our 200, I think the tank cost me just over $1k and I also need to get a rear bar to mover our spare wheel out from under the back.

I just have to wait for it all to arrive and then we will fit it up.....

Matt
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: marvellous_matt on February 26, 2015, 08:44:23 PM
fuel is alot cheaper there.
$1.39 for the last few weeks, hoping it will stay that way for a bit longer!
I hope you have a good experience with ARB, some people can get frustrated with their time frames. And unfortunately there are far too many businesses in town that have quite poor customer service.
Im in town(Alice), shoot me a PM if you need a hand sorting this out, or some eyes and ears in town.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: McGirr on February 26, 2015, 08:56:03 PM
$1.39 for the last few weeks, hoping it will stay that way for a bit longer!
I hope you have a good experience with ARB, some people can get frustrated with their time frames. And unfortunately there are far too many businesses in town that have quite poor customer service.
Im in town(Alice), shoot me a PM if you need a hand sorting this out, or some eyes and ears in town.

Many thanks Matt appreciate it. My contact number is 0407287620, shoot me a text and I will let you know when I am next in Alice.

Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: muzza01 on February 26, 2015, 10:23:00 PM
Spoke to my brother tonight, his was fitted a little over two years ago for $1400 at ARB Cairns. As Rumpig mentioned, they need to test it full of fuel so I guess you will need to budget for 180 litres of fuel as well.

He already had the twin Kmar bar fitted but you will need to find a new spot for your spare.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: yogi on February 27, 2015, 03:26:26 PM
I have had my longrange tank in the 80 for over 7 years and I have had no issues with it. It has taken the full weight of the 80 and then some with only minor damage. As others have stated the only thing is finding somewhere to put your spare tyre ....

yogi
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: fuji on February 27, 2015, 04:17:18 PM
Mark,

We have just ordered a long ranger from ARB for our 200, I think the tank cost me just over $1k and I also need to get a rear bar to mover our spare wheel out from under the back.

I just have to wait for it all to arrive and then we will fit it up.....

Matt


That seems a good price. Might enquire.
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: McGirr on February 27, 2015, 06:43:20 PM
The plan for now is the spare will live on the roof rack.

Mark
Title: Re: Considering a long range fuel tank
Post by: D4D on February 27, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
Actually mine was an LRA tank rather than Long Ranger http://www.longrangeautomotive.com.au/ (http://www.longrangeautomotive.com.au/)