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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: torsion on January 25, 2015, 10:53:37 AM
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Read a post on a 4wd forum, quote from other forum;
"I have been waiting for a set of Black Widow draws for the last 10 weeks and received a call today to say that unfortunately Black Widow have gone into receivership so I won't be getting my draws."
Anyone know if this is fact or bullShit talk?
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Still listed as registered on ASIC and I can't find a receiver appointed notice...
I didn't know they were Travelbuddy as well...
Name:
BLACK WIDOW ENTERPRISES PTY LTD
ACN/ARBN:
096 656 576
ABN:
51 096 656 576
Regulator:
Australian Securities and Investments Commission
Business name(s):
ARB WESTERN
BLACK WIDOW COMMERCIAL
FLEET FIT AUSTRALIA
BLACK WIDOW CANVAS PRODUCTS
BLACK WIDOW POWDER COATING
TRADEMATE STORAGE SYSTEMS
TRADEMATE STORAGE SOLUTIONS
TRAVELBUDDY
BLACK WIDOW INDUSTRIAL VEHICLE STORAGE SOLUTIONS
Name:
BLACK WIDOW ENTERPRISES PTY LTD
ACN:
096 656 576
ABN:
51 096 656 576(External Link)
Registration date:
1/05/2001
Next review date:
1/05/2015
Status:
Registered
Type:
Australian Proprietary Company, Limited By Shares
Locality of registered office:
NEW GISBORNE VIC 3438
Regulator:
Australian Securities & Investments Commission
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G'day,
I ordered sliding drawers from Black Widow for my bt50 a week ago through TJM in Mackay and they called me on Friday last to inform me they were in liquidation ....and i would have to choose a different supplier......
Take out of that what ever you wish.... ??? ???
Cheers Tracker.
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Would not surprise me. When I was looking to get some drawers and a fridge slide they were very cryptic in why they had nothing available now and could not provide any info as to when
Swannie
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Yeah last year looking at there racks I was told conflicting stories between them not manufacturing again and needing to get drawer production back on schedule first. Boss's brother had an issue getting a bar through one of there 4x4 franchises and it eventually closed, I didn't think it was looking good. Sad another Aussie manufacturer who can't make ends meet.
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Bit of a shame really. I have some in my work van & have been good.
Though must say not really surprised, i had a look on their website only last Monday & at $3k + they dont stand a chance against imports for $1k
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yea sad facts of life.....adapt to the changing market or die, they made a pretty good product too
i prolly would of bought their drawers but my requirements dictate i make my own to suit
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That explains why I had no reply to an email I sent them over a week ago.
Bugga.
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l was making enquiries about some draws for the Paj , to get a price comparison l contacted a dealer . l asked about Black Widow kit , l was told they are looking for another supplier as on Thursday last they folded .. gone . l rang them direct , got an answering machine on the 1800 line , the direct line has been disconnected . l wonder what happened & how many deposits are lost . Sad to think of the consequences.
l am now talking to Jim Best at Best Offroad in Melb for my kit
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I was in the same boat... Looking at Offroad Touring Solutions and Drifta now...
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I must of gotten one of the last set built then. Brought mine about 3 month ago.
Interesting thing is blackwidow also made the iron man draw and was about to start producing a tjm branded draw.
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l am now talking to Jim Best at Best Offroad in Melb for my kit
Jim is a top bloke, known him for years..
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Interesting thing is blackwidow also made the iron man draw and was about to start producing a tjm branded draw
are you sure about the Ironman ones, as they openly admit when you talk to them at shows that their drawers are made in Asia...
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are you sure about the Ironman ones, as they openly admit when you talk to them at shows that their drawers are made in Asia...
DrewXT,
'Til this date our Drawers have been Australian made... I'll leave it at that.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
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DrewXT,
'Til this date our Drawers have been Australian made... I'll leave it at that.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
thanks for clarifying Matt - one of your reps at one of the Melbourne shows last year was saying offshore...
are your drawers going to continue to be available? ;)
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thanks for clarifying Matt - one of your reps at one of the Melbourne shows last year was saying offshore...
are your drawers going to continue to be available? ;)
We are in the middle of re-developing our drawer solutions at the moment. Supply is still available of our existing drawer systems, though there are some that we don't have in large quantities... :P
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
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We are in the middle of re-developing our drawer solutions at the moment. Supply is still available of our existing drawer systems, though there are some that we don't have in large quantities... :P
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
Hey matt... is Adam in town, or travelling at moment..??
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Hey matt... is Adam in town, or travelling at moment..??
Yeh he's in town at the moment mate.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
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Yeh he's in town at the moment mate.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
kewl.. thanks.
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We are in the middle of re-developing our drawer solutions at the moment. Supply is still available of our existing drawer systems, though there are some that we don't have in large quantities... :P
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
touché - thanks Matt....
any chance the new range will include trade height drawers to suit an Amarok?
Saw your Rok in getting serviced a few weeks ago... nice looking truck :)
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We are in the middle of re-developing our drawer solutions at the moment. Supply is still available of our existing drawer systems, though there are some that we don't have in large quantities... :P
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
Is Black Widow manufacturing any of the Ironman draw systems?
If not who's manufacturing the Ironman brand at this time.
Lets cut with the smoke and mirrors hey……………make it clear!
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touché - thanks Matt....
any chance the new range will include trade height drawers to suit an Amarok?
Saw your Rok in getting serviced a few weeks ago... nice looking truck :)
No idea at this stage mate. The dev team is keeping things nicely underwraps with their planning.
But yeh, the Rok is a nice little unit.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
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No idea at this stage mate. The dev team is keeping things nicely underwraps with their planning.
But yeh, the Rok is a nice little unit.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
Any ETA on the new drawers being released? I might hold off if they're close...
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Any ETA on the new drawers being released? I might hold off if they're close...
No mate, they'll be a fair while off yet.
From what I know they are still in the planning phase of what sorts of designs and features they'd like to include.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
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No mate, they'll be a fair while off yet.
From what I know they are still in the planning phase of what sorts of designs and features they'd like to include.
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
if they want a test vehicle ... ... :cheers:
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Is Black Widow manufacturing any of the Ironman draw systems?
If not who's manufacturing the Ironman brand at this time.
Lets cut with the smoke and mirrors hey……………make it clear!
i thought it was pretty clear what Matt said??
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We are in the middle of re-developing our drawer solutions at the moment. Supply is still available of our existing drawer systems, though there are some that we don't have in large quantities... :P
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
I think you missed your calling Matt, with an answer like that you should have been a politician ;D ;D ;D
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I think you missed your calling Matt, with an answer like that you should have been a politician ;D ;D ;D
Maybe... With today's politicians I think I'm glad I got into marketing!
Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
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I think you missed your calling Matt, with an answer like that you should have been a politician ;D ;D ;D
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From what I heard they have been in trouble since June last year, something to do with the TJM franchise they put in up there. Sad tho they made a good product
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Hmmm maybe they should not have bought and decked out all those new Fourbies that get around my area. Great product and disappointing they have a great setup there in gisborne. Maybe we could do a Myswag buyout?? :)
Swannie
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From what I heard they have been in trouble since June last year, something to do with the TJM franchise they put in up there. Sad tho they made a good product
I believe they took over or opened Bendigo TJM, and it went downhill from there wanting to be sole suppliers for the whole chain AU wide...
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No mate, they had a tjm outlet on their factory premises in Gisborne. It moved out of there to Sunbury
Swannie
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So after reading these subliminal posts by the ironman politician, its now very clear;
Ironman draw systems will (if not already) be made in Asian Town.
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l was making enquiries about some draws for the Paj , to get a price comparison l contacted a dealer . l asked about Black Widow kit , l was told they are looking for another supplier as on Thursday last they folded .. gone . l rang them direct , got an answering machine on the 1800 line , the direct line has been disconnected . l wonder what happened & how many deposits are lost . Sad to think of the consequences.
l am now talking to Jim Best at Best Offroad in Melb for my kit
G'day Speewa - check out Affordable 4x4 drawers in the showroom section. I bought a 1.6m one for the camper - great value, great to deal with great quality. No affiliation except a happy camper.
Tony
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So i guess we can kiss our warranty goodbye on our draw system and cargo barrier.........not that I ever expect to have any dramas, they are a great product.
It's a shame to see another local manufacturer close up with the loss of more Aussie jobs.
Matt
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So if BW were making drawers for other brand names then it would seem other brands may have very limited supply until they find a new supplier...
Another example of the Aust 4wd industry eating itself to death from within :'( :'( :'( :'(
Jet :D
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Do spoke directly to them today. Very sadly they are currently with liquidators and it appears it was costing them 20% more to manufacture than what the were selling the stuff for. They are also linked to tjm Sunbury, most of those workers will finish up next Friday and the 2 brothers from BW will takeover & run it
Swannie
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and it appears it was costing them 20% more to manufacture than what the were selling the stuff for.
Top business plan...
If they are taking over TJM, that should go well too.. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
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Ordered a set of drawers for the BT at the SA 4wd Show last year - told 6-8 week wait - be ready just before xmas. Finally got the call today to indicate that whilst BW are now gone, my drawers were made and delivered to local distributor before they shut up shop. Phewwww, although I wasnt hanging out for them atm with the bank balance looking low anyway. Warranty will be undertaken by local distributor who is looking for alternative local manufacturer, and that BlackWidow RV will still operate making drawers etc. for the caravan industry etc.
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G'Day All,
After TJM in Mackay phoned me to tell me my order for the drawers for my Bt50 had to be cancelled i decided to go to there showroom to discuss an alternative my wife and i looked at the BW display in the back of a Ranger tub we asked ...( What about the display one at a discounted rate because it was show room stock)........Wow..they agreed if the drawers fitted.. they were ours... >:D grin.....and they fitted with no mods......So we ended up with quite a few hundred dollars off the Black Widow drawers as we really wanted....Gotta be happy with that...... :cheers:
Cheers Tracker.
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G'Day All,
After TJM in Mackay phoned me to tell me my order for the drawers for my Bt50 had to be cancelled i decided to go to there showroom to discuss an alternative my wife and i looked at the BW display in the back of a Ranger tub we asked ...( What about the display one at a discounted rate because it was show room stock)........Wow..they agreed if the drawers fitted.. they were ours... >:D grin.....and they fitted with no mods......So we ended up with quite a few hundred dollars off the Black Widow drawers as we really wanted....Gotta be happy with that...... :cheers:
Cheers Tracker.
Good Pickup
Now i know where i can get some >:D >:D >:D
:cheers:
Moggy
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G'Day All,
After TJM in Mackay phoned me to tell me my order for the drawers for my Bt50 had to be cancelled i decided to go to there showroom to discuss an alternative my wife and i looked at the BW display in the back of a Ranger tub we asked ...( What about the display one at a discounted rate because it was show room stock)........Wow..they agreed if the drawers fitted.. they were ours... >:D grin.....and they fitted with no mods......So we ended up with quite a few hundred dollars off the Black Widow drawers as we really wanted....Gotta be happy with that...... :cheers:
Cheers Tracker.
:cheers: great result tracker. They are a good product.
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So i guess we can kiss our warranty goodbye on our draw system and cargo barrier.........not that I ever expect to have any dramas, they are a great product.
It's a shame to see another local manufacturer close up with the loss of more Aussie jobs.
Matt
Matt there product was solid, what warranty do you need on drawers anyhow? Possibly a bearing that you could buy from a bearing shop for $8?
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Matt there product was solid, what warranty do you need on drawers anyhow? Possibly a bearing that you could buy from a bearing shop for $8?
Steel draws , nylock bolts & sealed bearings . Really what could possibly go wrong ??? ??? & if you cant fix it yourself , Stiff >:D l have just purchased a set for the Paj :cheers:
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G'Day All,
After TJM in Mackay phoned me to tell me my order for the drawers for my Bt50 had to be cancelled i decided to go to there showroom to discuss an alternative my wife and i looked at the BW display in the back of a Ranger tub we asked ...( What about the display one at a discounted rate because it was show room stock)........Wow..they agreed if the drawers fitted.. they were ours... >:D grin.....and they fitted with no mods......So we ended up with quite a few hundred dollars off the Black Widow drawers as we really wanted....Gotta be happy with that...... :cheers:
Cheers Tracker.
Now i have a BT50 tub liner i don't need........ :'(......Any body wan't to buy ...cheap ???
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As l have no use for it can you chuck in the BT50 as well ,,,,, Job Lot ,,,,, :cheers:
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As l have no use for it can you chuck in the BT50 as well ,,,,, Job Lot ,,,,, :cheers:
No wuckers mate !!!! ..I'll even throw in a case or two of your favourite beverage...heheheheh
:cup: :cheers:
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That the spirit ( no pun intended ) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :cheers:
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As I've always said, companies in this country have been taking the piss far to long, when you can get [not singling out any particular company] product bought and flown in from the US cheaper than purchase in the country they manufacture you know people are just taking the piss.
When a company can produce the same product for a competitor in the same factory as its own product and then that competitor undercut their price by half ..you know someone is taking the piss.
When people are buying a product on recommendation and marketing falsehoods and finding they're the same product produced in the same factory...you know someones taking the piss.
Im in the market for a draw system but when companies are colluding with each other to screw over the massive market they trying to service through greed and deception, is it any wonder businesses are going to the wall when people find out how they have been taking the piss!!
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As I've always said, companies in this country have been taking the piss far to long, when you can get [not singling out any particular company] product bought and flown in from the US cheaper than purchase in the country they manufacture you know people are just taking the piss.
When a company can produce the same product for a competitor in the same factory as its own product and then that competitor undercut their price by half ..you know someone is taking the piss.
When people are buying a product on recommendation and marketing falsehoods and finding they're the same product produced in the same factory...you know someones taking the piss.
Im in the market for a draw system but when companies are colluding with each other to screw over the massive market they trying to service through greed and deception, is it any wonder businesses are going to the wall when people find out how they have been taking the piss!!
Umm.....ever tried to set up a business in Australia???
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Umm.....ever tried to set up a business in Australia???
I knew you would be in on that one Weeds..lol.. And yes to your question mate :cheers: Are you suggesting a two thousand dollar set of draws compared to a one thousand dollar set of draws built in the same factory from the same product [albeit under possible different business structures] isn't taking the piss?
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I read elsewhere that the guy who makes clear view towing mirrors is taking over BW drawers.
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Good post Moggy, as much as deplore the Westfield management of shops etc it's flawed industry long term and although are trying to do is prolong it. In use private stores and online is smashing malls.
Interesting again to see those bleating what they'll pay to keep Aussies jobs. Their the same ones lined up with you and me to buy Jules Chinese maxtrax and Mcgills light bars etc lol everybody has a price.
You wanna see a parochial market go to Germany or Japan. Ohhhhh they just happen to be manufacturing Giants too
I guess my point was more about the fact that there is a price point at which people will pay, but some companies only have themselves to blame when going bust because they fail to admit there pricing themselves out of the market of their own volition.
You are right to say "Interesting again to see those bleating what they'll pay to keep Aussies jobs. Their the same ones lined up with you and me to buy Jules Chinese maxtrax and Mcgills light bars etc lol everybody has a price." ..but to use this as the excuse to take the piss when it comes to pricing is really a flatulent argument.
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what happened there?
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Does anybody know if Kincrome drawers are made by BW as well?.. seem to be the same design features ..
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what happened there?
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=41848.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=41848.0)
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what happened there?
Big feet
Steppin on Toes >:D >:D >:D
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Big feet
Steppin on Toes >:D >:D >:D
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Oww that hurt,
Found it over here
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=41848.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=41848.0)
sneaky buggers
DOH!!!! saw your post jimmy. to many beers time to sign off me thinks
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Oww that hurt,
Found it over here
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=41848.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=41848.0)
sneaky buggers
Yea ..all good mate... alls fair in love and war mate ;).. didn't mean to step on toes ..just an opinion . and if you knew me it comes really easily to have one ...
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Hi everyone,
You will be all happy to know draw systems in 1000 and 1300 will be available in 2 weeks from local 4x4 shops and Tambo 4x4 and Outdoors.
Wing kits will be available for selected makes and models but we are working very hard on having many kits available and we will be constantly building the range.
For info or distributor's for Tambo 4x4 draws feel free to call 03 8457 0505
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Any sneak previews?
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Any sneak previews?
We've just released the 1000mm and 1300mm long drawers from our new range.
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Cheers,
Matt
Ironman 4x4
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