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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: MarkVS on January 16, 2015, 08:16:13 AM
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So, your one and only daughter and child has just turned sweet 16, and is looking to get her leaners.
You know the car won't be too far down the line and you don't want her using yours. What do you get them for their first car?
Do you get a small new car, because it will be the safest (have all of the latest safety items in the car) and more than likely be reliable. Being new. But...they are getting a NEW car, big thing first up...expectations as they go on.
Or do you get them something older, so they learn expenses of a older car, maintenance, something cheaper, cheaper insurance, not a new car right up front..But...likely to be less reliable, not have as much 'safe' stuff...
Any advice ?
Mark
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Go to the auctions (Brisbane) and buy a new hail damaged small safe car.
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A good little second hand car with a couple of years on it and around 50,000km's would be a good start.
Something like a Hyundai Getz or similar as they are cheap to run and maintain and when she's learnt to
drive competently without running into things (like my daughter used to do) then she can trade up to a newer and better model.
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I'd look for a used Lancer or similar.. I don't like those mobile coffin sized cars, if they get hit by bigger cars its never a good result...
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We went with the older , low Km Toyota , safer and more reliable than some New stuff..
Our daughter learnt in it and got her "Ps" in it , Unfortunately she also got "T" boned in it
very lucky no injuries , I found another same model , locally and Lent that to her , She wrote
Her car off so this is mine...
Here we are a couple of years down the road , she gets her open next month and
has saved upwards of $25K and wants to buy herself something NEW ..
I'm very proud of her and where she is going in life.. She has learnt some hard lessons
and respects that you have to work through things to get where you want to be ..
Cheers
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I have bought a few cars for my kids. The latest one was a 2007 Holden Barina. It is not too big, not too small, economical at around 6l per 100. Most importantly it has a few safety features especially airbags.
The car was in immaculate condition owned by a 30 yo old lady who had owned since new. Low Kms, heaps of rego, road worthy and $3800.
I reckon buy second hand as there are some great bargains, plus young drivers have little accidents and "touch park" sometimes.
My priorities for cars for my kids are:
Safety features like ABS and plenty of airbags
Aircon working
Get a blue tooth hands free phone kit or upgrade their stereo.
Seat covers as kids are grubs
Good tyres, good tyres good tyres. :police: I don't mind paying for Michelin tyres as we live near a slippery mounting range and we have a lot of wet days up here.
I generally try and drive their car once a month or so to make sure everything is working as it should.
You will need to show her how to wash and polish a car, no it isn't common sense. You will also need to show her how to put fuel in and how to air up the tyres. This is a pic a 07 Barina.
:cheers: and Good luck
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agree with others, second hand the way to go, first up. plenty of bargains to be had.
my wife's first car was a little suzuki 3 door vitara.
couldn't kill it. it would drive through a brick wall.
cheap to buy, cheap to run, reliable and easy to maintain.
my wife had this shape:
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great little car, IMO...
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We went through this with our daughter. For the first car bought a cheap mid range kilometre Hyundai Excel for three months, half expecting it to get destroyed, then ended up buying a 12 year old Saab. Good style (except Bird probably thinks they look like crap). Good accessories, comfortable, safe, strong, economical driving, subtle power, reasonable insurance, and the occasional service and parts was not expensive unless you take it to a Saab specialist.
Cheers
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Hi Mark and Kerry,
Maybe a good secondhand small 4x4 , that way Olivia could still enjoy the outdoors/camping scene with you both but also have her own space, but no matter what she ends up with make sure that she is joined up with RACQ for breakdowns etc .
cheers duggie
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Slightly off topic, but is the expectation now parents buy their kids their first car?
When I was 15 Dad warned me that when I turned 16 and got my license he was happy to let me use his car to learn to drive, but once I received my P plates then I had to buy my own car. On that basis I saved every cent from working part time, so a year or so later I could buy my own car when I turned 16, which I did. There was never any thoughts that my parents would buy my car, and that was pretty well the same with my mates. The cars we brought were what we could afford at the time....
I'm not being critical at all, just asking as I've got my own kids now and being boys I'm sure they will want to get a set of wheels as soon as it's legally possible. After reading the responses it seems that most are buying their kids cars (?), where as I would have been inclined to encourage my kids to save for their own. I'm wondering whether I should start preparing and saving now ..... ???
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show ya kids how much you care with a new beemer or merc, maybe something in the amg lineup, ya may even get father of the year
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show ya kids how much you care with a new beemer or merc, maybe something in the amg lineup, ya may even get father of the year
Mine are getting a Jeep >:D
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A friend of mine is a trauma nurse and from her experience nothing is more important than the side airbags as that is where the serious head injuries are often caused so safety first.
For our neice her parents offered to match her savings dollar for dollar on the grounds that they had veto on what car the money could be spent on, encourages savings.
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Get them to save up themselves and then they can buy the car that they choose based on what they can afford.
It teaches them to save, budget, take responsibility, and not have entitlement.
My first car was a $1300 VW piece of s..t, but it was mine, along with all the repairs, and smoke it blew. Sold same VW piece of s..t 4 years later for $1500. The $1500 was also then mine!
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get a new 200 series
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Slightly off topic, but is the expectation now parents buy their kids their first car?
When I was 15 Dad warned me that when I turned 16 and got my license he was happy to let me use his car to learn to drive, but once I received my P plates then I had to buy my own car. On that basis I saved every cent from working part time, so a year or so later I could buy my own car when I turned 16, which I did. There was never any thoughts that my parents would buy my car, and that was pretty well the same with my mates. The cars we brought were what we could afford at the time....
I'm not being critical at all, just asking as I've got my own kids now and being boys I'm sure they will want to get a set of wheels as soon as it's legally possible. After reading the responses it seems that most are buying their kids cars (?), where as I would have been inclined to encourage my kids to save for their own. I'm wondering whether I should start preparing and saving now ..... ???
Both my sons have got their licenses inthe last couple of years.
The eldest bought his own cars, some good choices, some not so good.
THe second was lucky in that we wer int he process of replacing one of our cars when he was ready so he bought that car from us, but he still bought it.
When it comes to the daughters time to drive (2 years away) she will be buying her car. Once again I will probably be ready to update my car at that time so she may just buy my car.
Bunyip
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Slightly off topic, but is the expectation now parents buy their kids their first car?
We gave our daughter a choice.... a car or go to schoolies. She picked the car.
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Get them to save up themselves and then they can buy the car that they choose based on what they can afford.
It teaches them to save, budget, take responsibility, and not have entitlement.
My first car was a $1300 VW piece of s..t, but it was mine, along with all the repairs, and smoke it blew. Sold same VW piece of s..t 4 years later for $1500. The $1500 was also then mine!
Yup - I agree. My parents told me I had to buy my own first car. Dad was a lawyer and could afford it, but wanted me to learn to look after it. I learned a bit of basic car maintenance (spark plug changes, oil changes, Exhaust replacement LOL, etc) and if I broke it, it wasn't expensive to replace.
I got an old 30 year old Volvo 343 fro 150 quid from a scrap dealer with 6 months MOT (rego). 4 new tires and exhaust, was all it needed to pass the MOT 6 mths later - It was cheap as no one wanted to by them & relatively safe compared to the other buzz boxes I could afford at the time.
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I bought one of the boys an old Subaru Brumby for his first car. Only fit one mate in it which cuts back on the yahooing a bit. I also removed the linkage to the second stage of the carby so it would only do about 110 flat out. Replaced it after a year or so.
The daughter will be getting something reliable, a few years old with airbags.
I like the idea about schoolies v's a car!
JGM
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Yeah, I don't know about buying the kids cars, I've got four kids and I can't afford to buy them all cars. The eldest bought her own after working hard in a couple of part time jobs from about 15. It wasn't the best looking or the nicest (ford festiva) but it was hers bought with her own money so I was proud of her for that.
My siblings and I all had to buy our own cars. My first one was a HQ sedan with 3 on the tree. I bought it off the old man and I'm sure he made a profit off me >:D It was a POS, the gear linkages would stick at the most inappropriate times going from 1st to 2nd. I would have to stop pop the bonnet smash the links into place and then rev the guts out of a gutless 202 and take off in 2nd. Very embarrassing when you are trying to impress the ladies ;D
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I am in exactly the same position ie: she just turned 16 and i am looking for a vehicle for her. As I have no control or authority in my household she wants a mazda 2 or 3 and if it is a "yukky" colour she doesn't want it.
We haven't actively gone looking as yet so the discussions on her requirements will be interesting >:D
A lot of comments on buying your own car etc and I did the same but I always remember how tough it was at the time in a s**t paying job to afford a reasonable condition vehicle that wasn't going to leave me stranded in Western Qld somewhere. At the time I resolved that if ever had kids I would do my best to not have them financially burdened by the cost of a vehicle at the start of their working life or uni. It is what it is and we all try to give our kids an easier start to adult life than what we had.
We have set a budget though and she will have to take responsibility for any required extra money
Rod
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I have already told my kids that I will go halves in their first car. I think that if they have something tied up in it they should respect it and look after it better.
I really like the schoolies thought so I also might steel it.
As for cars I think modern cars are less likely to break down if maintained. As for safety then you obviously get the most features in your budget. Google the cars ancap rating before purchasing if ancap have tested that car.
IMO I think the best gift is to teach them how to drive, not just what the driving schools teach(how to pass a test).
I have seen way too many P platers crash or almost crash due to not knowing the basics like how to read other drivers, road condition and traffic.
Just my thoughts
Neil
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Get them to save up themselves and then they can buy the car that they choose based on what they can afford.
Yep that's what I had to do, one of the very good lessons mum and dad taught me....
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I have already told my kids that I will go halves in their first car. I think that if they have something tied up in it they should respect it and look after it better.
I like this idea - think I'll do the same. Though by the time my kid is old enough to drive they may not be any petrol left on the planet. Encourage them to save up a bit but give us some say in what they get.
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Slightly off topic, but is the expectation now parents buy their kids their first car?
When I was 15 Dad warned me that when I turned 16 and got my license he was happy to let me use his car to learn to drive, but once I received my P plates then I had to buy my own car. On that basis I saved every cent from working part time, so a year or so later I could buy my own car when I turned 16, which I did. There was never any thoughts that my parents would buy my car, and that was pretty well the same with my mates. The cars we brought were what we could afford at the time....
I'm not being critical at all, just asking as I've got my own kids now and being boys I'm sure they will want to get a set of wheels as soon as it's legally possible. After reading the responses it seems that most are buying their kids cars (?), where as I would have been inclined to encourage my kids to save for their own. I'm wondering whether I should start preparing and saving now ..... ???
I was never given a car. I was only 18 when I left home and joined the military. I looked after myself, bought my own car, furniture, paid for my own wedding, and generally learnt my own lessons the hard way.
For my kids, I want to help them with decisions, subsodise there life as one of my sons is an apprentice and gets paid SFA. I give them money, furniture, cars and as long as I am alive help where ever I can. I have spoilt my kids, I have given them opportunities in life that I didn't have.
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I was never given a car. I was only 18 when I left home and joined the military. I looked after myself, bought my own car, furniture, paid for my own wedding, and generally learnt my own lessons the hard way.
For my kids, I want to help them with decisions, subsodise there life as one of my sons is an apprentice and gets paid SFA. I give them money, furniture, cars and as long as I am alive help where ever I can. I have spoilt my kids, I have given them opportunities in life that I didn't have.
not a crime, mate... :D we as parents do what we think is right for our kids. everyone's circumstance and background is different...
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Tough call .... though the choice between a car and schoolies sounds like a good option :cheers:
My only advice is to get something without a back seat ;D
yogi
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Tough call .... though the choice between a car and schoolies sounds like a good option :cheers:
My only advice is to get something without a back seat ;D
yogi
so a ute, then... >:D
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so a ute, then... >:D
Panelvan ???
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Panelvan ???
>:D >:D >:D
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the gear linkages would stick at the most inappropriate times going from 1st to 2nd. I would have to stop pop the bonnet smash the links into place and then rev the guts out of a gutless 202 and take off in 2nd. Very embarrassing when you are trying to impress the ladies ;D
Geez that brings back a few memories, i had a XB panelvan with the same problem
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Panelvan ???
...been there... ;D ;D
If you really love her Mark, you buy her a Benz..... ;D ;D
Rather than buy a new or slightly soiled shoe box, check the prices of some 7-10yo Benz offerings.
They tend to have a good maintenance record. I reckon they're pretty good value...
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From personal experience I wouldn't recommend any of the above ...... you get to many people asking you to help them move :angel:
yogi
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...been there... ;D ;D
If you really love her Mark, you buy her a Benz..... ;D ;D
Rather than buy a new or slightly soiled shoe box, check the prices of some 7-10yo Benz offerings.
They tend to have a good maintenance record. I reckon they're pretty good value...
can be expensive to get parts, though...
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can be expensive to get parts, though...
That won't worry Mark..... ;D ;D
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Just buy her a motorbike.
Mrs Jeepers use to have an 04 Triumph ST Sprint, easy to ride, 995 cc and around a 110 HP in a 200 Kilo bike, so snappy performance, good on fuel, easy to park, cheaper rego.....
No need to thank me, ;D
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I had to save up to buy my first car. When I found a car that I liked, and the parents thought was suitable, I found it was a few thousand out of reach.
My parents loaned me the difference. I needed a reliable car to get to work, and about half of my first year apprentice weekly rate was what I had to pay back each week.
They helped me afford the car, but it was all mine after 18 months when I repaid them, with (low) interest.
Beigewagon
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I was never given a car. I was only 18 when I left home and joined the military Same here, I was 17. I looked after myself, bought my own car, furniture, paid for my own wedding Same here again, and generally learnt my own lessons the hard way.
For my kids, I want to help them with decisions, subsodise there life as one of my sons is an apprentice and gets paid SFA Same here yet again. I give them money, furniture, cars and as long as I am alive help where ever I can. I have spoilt my kids, I have given them opportunities in life that I didn't have. This is freaky, what your Dads surname?
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I was never given a car. I was only 18 when I left home and joined the military. I looked after myself, bought my own car, furniture, paid for my own wedding, and generally learnt my own lessons the hard way.
For my kids, I want to help them with decisions, subsodise there life as one of my sons is an apprentice and gets paid SFA. I give them money, furniture, cars and as long as I am alive help where ever I can. I have spoilt my kids, I have given them opportunities in life that I didn't have.
Good on ya Muzza, hope I can provide my kids with the same when the time comes.
what about a little suzuki SUV or toyota RAV, pending on budget
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My siblings and I all had to buy our own cars. My first one was a HQ sedan with 3 on the tree. I bought it off the old man and I'm sure he made a profit off me >:D It was a POS, the gear linkages would stick at the most inappropriate times going from 1st to 2nd. I would have to stop pop the bonnet smash the links into place and then rev the guts out of a gutless 202 and take off in 2nd. Very embarrassing when you are trying to impress the ladies ;D
Lol, my old ladies XD used to be the same, Infact I did my licence test in it with the instructor, and it happened mid test lol. Same deal, pop the hood, bash the linkage and off ya go. Still marked me 100%. Only test I've ever got 100% in :D
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Mark, I thought it was already a foregone conclusion?
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Being 16 might be a transformer's fan. So go the GMC Ironhide!
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If it is the daughters car then I shall outline some essential criteria gained from my experience with providing my 2 daughters with cars .
1. passenger side floor shall be of sufficient size so as it can accommodate all form of rubbish including macca's packaging, drink bottles used tissues etc
2. centre console shall resemble a dressing table ,and have space for lipgloss, hair brush, eye liner, used tissues and multiple hair clips and hair ties ,sunglasses including broken pairs.
3 vanity mirror on sun visor
4 rear back seat that can accommodate all form of clothing, not unlike an extension to the wardrobe and complete with a floor area below seat to store all the shoes plus 6 different colour havanas thongs
5 hatch back boot area to store any other items that don't fit in the previous mentioned other spaces and including blankets ,pillows
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My siblings and I all had to buy our own cars. My first one was a HQ sedan with 3 on the tree. I bought it off the old man and I'm sure he made a profit off me >:D It was a POS, the gear linkages would stick at the most inappropriate times going from 1st to 2nd. I would have to stop pop the bonnet smash the links into place and then rev the guts out of a gutless 202 and take off in 2nd. Very embarrassing when you are trying to impress the ladies ;D
Ha. De ja vu moment. It was 1987, i had a HJ Panel van, 3 on tree same probs as yours but with first and reverse gears. Anyways, I go over to this really rich blokes house to take his daughter to the drive in movies and i couldn't reverse out of his driveway due to the selectors playing up.
Losing first wasn't too bad as you could ride the clutch into second gear. I had to get his daughter in the drivers seat, lift the bonnet and pull the reverse selector by hand to get it into reverse. I dropped her home by the requested time, she didn't put out and just gave me a kiss and he was waiting at my PV when I got back to the car after escorting her to the door.
In no unpleasant terms he told me to never come to his house again or contact his daughter. :-*
I upgraded to a XB Falcon sedan after that, looked great on the outside but both of the front floor pans were completely rusted out. I had a couple of prices of ply under the mats for floors.
They didn't work too well keeping water out in the wet season up here in FNQ. ;D
Those were the days >:D
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If it is the daughters car then I shall outline some essential criteria gained from my experience with providing my 2 daughters with cars .
1. passenger side floor shall be of sufficient size so as it can accommodate all form of rubbish including macca's packaging, drink bottles used tissues etc
2. centre console shall resemble a dressing table ,and have space for lipgloss, hair brush, eye liner, used tissues and multiple hair clips and hair ties ,sunglasses including broken pairs.
3 vanity mirror on sun visor
4 rear back seat that can accommodate all form of clothing, not unlike an extension to the wardrobe and complete with a floor area below seat to store all the shoes plus 6 different colour havanas thongs
5 hatch back boot area to store any other items that don't fit in the previous mentioned other spaces and including blankets ,pillows
Rags,
I hear ya bud!!
My daughters little Mazda 121 is like a walk in badly kept wardrobe / skip bin on wheels....
Drives me nuts, as i like to clear my Cruiser of any goods collected on a daily basis......
Oh yeah and back to the original question, i bought my daughter a Mazda 121, it is old and does lack in safety features compared to new, this does bother me a bit, however with her at uni on the Gold Coast, and in need of a car quite urgently at the time, this was the best i could come up with, the little beast also had to be sent from Cairns down to her...... so far so good, and she has learnt to take it easy in the little Mazda, and one day soon i hope to assist her to upgrade to something a little more upgraded, though she has grown quite fond of the little beasty Mazda.. oh and i took it for a few spins too before sending it down, was quite a novelty to drive..... picture a gorrila in Mr Beans car.
Oh and yeah, go the RACQ membership, she's had to uise them a couple of times over the years, and they've been great.
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My siblings and I all had to buy our own cars. My first one was a HQ sedan with 3 on the tree. I bought it off the old man and I'm sure he made a profit off me >:D It was a POS, the gear linkages would stick at the most inappropriate times going from 1st to 2nd. I would have to stop pop the bonnet smash the links into place and then rev the guts out of a gutless 202 and take off in 2nd. Very embarrassing when you are trying to impress the ladies ;D
Ha. De ja vu moment. 1987 HJ Panel van, 3 on tree same probs with first and reverse gears. Anyways, I go over to this rich blokes house to take his daughter to the drive in movies and i couldn't reverse out of his driveway due to the selectors. Losing first wasn't too bad as you could ride the clutch into second gear. I had to get his daughter in the drivers seat, lift the bonnet and pull the reverse selector by hand to get it into reverse. I dropped her home by the requested time, she didn't put out and just gave me a kiss and he was waiting at my PV when I got back to the car after escorting her to the door.
In no unpleasant terms he told me to never come to his house again or contact his daughter. :-*
I upgraded to a XB Falcon sedan after that, looked great on the outside but both of the front floor pans were completely rusted out. I had a couple of prices of ply under the mats for floors.
They didn't work too well keeping water out in the wet season up here in FNQ. ;D
Those were the days >:D
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but both of the front floor pans were completely rusted out. Those were the days >:D
Hey Muzza, i only had motorbikes as a young fella, didn't own a car till in early 20's.... i picked up my girlfriend for our first date (now my wife) in a borrowed ford cortina wagon, we were driving from Aeroglen back into to town and it was raining, i noticed her look down at the holes in the rusted out floor pan (yep no carpets/mats, nothing..... i then genuinley said, you might have to spread your legs to get a foot over each hole to stop the water coming through the floor.................. she still takes great joy in telling anyone, when the topic of first dates comes up, that i within seconds of picking her up for our first date told her that she "may have to spread her legs".................... some things, never forgotten! :cheers:
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Hey Muzza, i only had motorbikes as a young fella, didn't own a car till in early 20's.... i picked up my girlfriend for our first date (now my wife) in a borrowed ford cortina wagon, we were driving from Aeroglen back into to town and it was raining, i noticed her look down at the holes in the rusted out floor pan (yep no carpets/mats, nothing..... i then genuinley said, you might have to spread your legs to get a foot over each hole to stop the water coming through the floor.................. she still takes great joy in telling anyone, when the topic of first dates comes up, that i within seconds of picking her up for our first date told her that she "may have to spread her legs".................... some things, never forgotten! :cheers:
My holes were pretty bad. Basically about 300x 400 holes in each front floor pan, basically no floor pan ;D.
The car really stank in the wet season. I swapped the XB Falcon sedan for an FB Holden Ute, swapped the ute for a 308 rifle, bought a cheap Mazda 4cyl sedan, then bought an XB 2 door coupe, then a 4 door XB Fairmont all within 12 months.
Speaking of spreading legs, :D I was driving an XC Falcon when I met Cath, had our 24th Anniversary the other day. Maybe she has stayed with me cuz I harp e great taste in cars ;D
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Second hand diesel Golf. Will reduce nightmares by at least 30%. Cheap to run, super safe. And of course make it a manual.
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My holes were pretty bad. Basically about 300x 400 holes in each front floor pan, basically no floor pan ;D.
The car really stank in the wet season. I swapped the XB Falcon sedan for an FB Holden Ute, swapped the ute for a 308 rifle, bought a cheap Mazda 4cyl sedan, then bought an XB 2 door coupe, then a 4 door XB Fairmont all within 12 months.
Speaking of spreading legs, :D I was driving an XC Falcon when I met Cath, had our 24th Anniversary the other day. Maybe she has stayed with me cuz I harp e great taste in cars ;D
Hahahahahahaha. Gold. Thanks mate.
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Fuji heavy industries aka subaru. Safe, reliable and hold their value.
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I bought my daughters first car last week, managed to find a 97 Toyota Corolla Seca with only 235 000kms on it (yes a lot but not when you are in the first car budget). Got it for $2100 with 6 months rego.
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Thanks everyone for your feedback.
I had to get my first car myself while i was going to Uni.
I believe in giving my daughter a better start in life which i can, and have her focus on the more important things. Study and enjoying life.
And if i get the car,i will sleep better because my wife is sleeping better because she's not worried about it breaking down.
Probably get her to pay back some so she has a financial tie into it.
Rav4 or Suzuki SUV appeal. Also like the idea of her learning in her own car.
But then dont want her having her own car too early because then she'll want to use it !!
Newer model also looks the way to go for safety and reliability.
Next stage of life.
Mark
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Our daughter worked 4 jobs, fish & chip shop, supermarket, picking up horse droppings & part time two days week in an office and at the same time was doing uni and also lived out of home so when it came time for a car we worked out a plan that we would go halves in her first car, she has a Honda Civic 2001 and it is big enough to be seen and is a bit sedate for her (in her words) but a good reliable first car. For her next car she wants an Audi A3 lol! This one she will have to buy herself so will be awhile.
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Our daughter worked 4 jobs, fish & chip shop, supermarket, picking up horse droppings & part time two days week in an office and at the same time was doing uni and also lived out of home so when it came time for a car we worked out a plan that we would go halves in her first car, she has a Honda Civic 2001 and it is big enough to be seen and is a bit sedate for her (in her words) but a good reliable first car. For her next car she wants an Audi A3 lol! This one she will have to buy herself so will be awhile.
Elkay,
I hear what you and others are saying. I did several jobs while i was at Uni. But maybe i think differently.
I dont see the value in making life difficult for the sake of it. The money lesson we teach her in other ways.
Thats why in the original entry, i dont talk about buying the car or not. It was more about the age of car and ongoing 'looking after' lessons.
Mark
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Hey Mark, Happy New Year to you and the Family. This thought is starting to cross my mind as well. Number one priority is reliability and safety. Number two, you don't want to get her a rocket ship, temptation and peer pressure are hard to resist for anyone. I like the RAV4, Vitara idea and I know this would appeal to Tish. We ALL do what we think is best for our children to give them the best start in life we can.
PS When our son got his licence he used to drive to school as it was a 40 Klm one way trip and he had training after school, but we forbid him to have anyone else from school in the car for the first 6 months he had his licence. Whilst he had been driving in the paddocks since he was 12 the road is a different matter.
Craig
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Craig,
Thanks and happy new year to you guys as well.
How about we solve 2 problems. We jointly buy a Rav4 and the girls can time share it!
I'm sure that'll work
Mark
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Dunno about the Rav4, once upon a time it was something you could take on the beach, but over the years it has morphed into a mid-sized SUV that is really only good for soccer runs.
Even though it is underpowered, the Suzuki would be more capable.
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Even though it is underpowered, the Suzuki would be more capable.
Symon,
Do you think 'more power' is going to be high on MY list of priorities ?
Mark
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Symon,
Do you think 'more power' is going to be high on MY list of priorities ?
Mark
It will on hers!
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It will on hers!
Only if you keep getting into her ear.... ;D
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Three years ago, a friends 3 month old commondoor, with wife and baby inside, was squashed in a three way on the Pacific highway (no fault of his wife). They had to be cut out but were ok, with the only injuries being cuts and bruises and whiplash to the wife. Fire rescue told him that if his family had not had that car with its size, crumple zones, airbags etc they would have been severly injured or killed.
Lesson learned: Number ONE priority: buy as safe a car as you possibly can. You don't wont to live to regret it!
Sometimes, size (and features) does matter.
Cheers, avo
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Anything but a bloody commonwhore , personally i would buy something that actually needs to be driven and not auto piloted if that makes sense.
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Did a deal today on the eldest girls first car. 97 RAV4 for an absolute steal. 4 door auto with a few kays on her, but with a little work she'll shine up like a new penny. A little gutless, but they're pretty nice to drive.
Just needs a winch bar, lift kit and set of muds... >:D
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I bought my daughters first car last week, managed to find a 97 Toyota Corolla Seca with only 235 000kms on it (yes a lot but not when you are in the first car budget). Got it for $2100 with 6 months rego.
Best car ever built this was my first car then hannded to my brother so it lived through 2 robust 17 year old surfers and still did not die and we took this thing everywhere even beach tracks that i would think twice about now in my dmax
Honestly go a 3 year old corolla with ABS and airbags and you cant go wrong safe reliable and it has already copped the depreciation so you wont get hysterical when it gets scratched