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Title: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: StrvnMrvn on October 03, 2014, 07:27:07 PM
Evening Swaggers,

Well I have a 4 year old American Staffy bitch (fixed) that can jump an 8 Ft fence!

She started jumping it about 1 year ago, so I put up shelf brackets fastened to each post with wire running between each., which stopped her!

Now she has started jumping again because she knows that there is a new dog next door and there is another on the other side!

My question is, has anyone used any form of dog electric shock fence or any other form of fence to stop their dog from jumping the fence?!

We hate seeing her tied up, but she knows why we do it.

Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: xcvator on October 03, 2014, 07:33:52 PM
Mate, if you can beg borrow or steal an electric fence unit for a week go for it, that will stop her. I had a property several years ago with electric fences to help keep foxes out, my dog stuck his nose on it twice  ;D never again. Even 3 years later when I had shifted you could lay a piece of wire on the ground and the dog wouldn't walk/jump over it, he'd walk around it.
Just be prepared for the screaming yelp when she hits it  :-*
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Mik01 on October 03, 2014, 08:05:15 PM
Mate, if you can beg borrow or steal an electric fence unit for a week go for it, that will stop her. I had a property several years ago with electric fences to help keep foxes out, my dog stuck his nose on it twice  ;D never again. Even 3 years later when I had shifted you could lay a piece of wire on the ground and the dog wouldn't walk/jump over it, he'd walk around it.
Just be prepared for the screaming yelp when she hits it  :-*

Invisible fence(or hidden fence). Google it.
It kept my neighbours dogs out of my yard while the fence was rebuilt.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: dazzler on October 03, 2014, 08:38:06 PM
Does she do it when you are home?

If not and only when you are out you can house her in the laundry or shed with her bed and water and toys and leave a radio on.

As soon as you get home bring her back with the family. 

Generally they are more relaxed being in a 'cave' than outside tied up.  Problem with staffies is they are VERY strong willed so you may struggle even with electric containment.  In the end she may have to live somewhere else for her own sanity.

Good luck with it. 
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: lino6 on October 03, 2014, 09:08:33 PM
We live on 8 acres and have an electric fence unit for the horses. When we had our staffy x she used to dig out. I put some tape around the bottom of the fence. They touched it once and never went near anything that looked like electric fence tape again!
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: StrvnMrvn on October 03, 2014, 09:09:07 PM
Does she do it when you are home?

If not and only when you are out you can house her in the laundry or shed with her bed and water and toys and leave a radio on.

As soon as you get home bring her back with the family. 

Generally they are more relaxed being in a 'cave' than outside tied up.  Problem with staffies is they are VERY strong willed so you may struggle even with electric containment.  In the end she may have to live somewhere else for her own sanity.

Good luck with it.

She will normally do it when I go out, not the SWMBO or the kids!

She is very aggressive against other dogs when I have her, but when the SWMBO takes her for a walk, she is no where near as bad. The SWMBO said that she is protecting me cause I am her property.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: StrvnMrvn on October 03, 2014, 09:10:57 PM
We live on 8 acres and have an electric fence unit for the horses. When we had our staffy x she used to dig out. I put some tape around the bottom of the fence. They touched it once and never went near anything that looked like electric fence tape again!

Thats not a bad idea! I might get some surprise sex tape and run it alone the shelf holder I have and hang some string off it to put her off!  :cheers:

I'll give anything a go!
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: lino6 on October 03, 2014, 09:16:06 PM
I've hear of people making a home made electric fence energiser out of a flasher can and a coil out of an old car. I don't know how to wire it all up but you could probably google it.

Good luck mate
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Straitened Out on October 03, 2014, 09:19:53 PM
Evening Swaggers,

Well I have a 4 year old American Staffy bitch (fixed) that can jump an 8 Ft fence!

She started jumping it about 1 year ago, so I put up shelf brackets fastened to each post with wire running between each., which stopped her!

Now she has started jumping again because she knows that there is a new dog next door and there is another on the other side!

My question is, has anyone used any form of dog electric shock fence or any other form of fence to stop their dog from jumping the fence?!

We hate seeing her tied up, but she knows why we do it.
I have a Petsafe fence around our 3.5 acres. Our Border Collie wears a collar that gives him a warning when he is about 2 metres from the boundary and he (now) stops. If he was to keep going, he would get a 12V jolt. They are expensive systems but they work.
Cheers
S.O.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: StrvnMrvn on October 03, 2014, 09:22:51 PM
I have a Petsafe fence around our 3.5 acres. Our Border Collie wears a collar that gives him a warning when he is about 2 metres from the boundary and he (now) stops. If he was to keep going, he would get a 12V jolt. They are expensive systems but they work.
Cheers
S.O.

The one I have seen is dug into the ground, is yours? Or can you nail to to a fence as well?

Any info would help!  :cheers:
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Mallory Black on October 03, 2014, 09:29:00 PM
I caved in a couple of years ago and built an outdoor run that had a shadecloth roof one end and weatherproof roof the other end.
Over time we had a passionfruit vine grow up through the mesh and it looks OK. that's it in the corner

Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: jetcrew on October 03, 2014, 09:36:08 PM
Get the elec fence mate, string it on the fence if she is a jumpper , when she jumps up on fence and gets the zapp a few times they learn quick.

My dog still thinks any white tape is electrified LOL ;D ;D ;D

I had ours on for a week then off for 6 mths and he never tried again after a few zapps,

Jet ;D
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: vicandug on October 03, 2014, 11:00:34 PM
We had a staffy who Was a Beautiful dog but we couldn't leave him for 5 minutes. We got an electric fence and he had a collar for it.

Well, it didn't stop Duke. He would dig under, climb over, chew the wire fence and even the electric wire.

Our beautiful dog is now living in a home with big wooden fences and has only escaped a few times.

Good luck

Vicki
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: crawa on October 04, 2014, 07:21:25 AM
we had a shock collar on our kelpie, battery went flat and he did a runner , ended up at RSPCA  $300 later to be released they wouldn't give back the collar as they stated they were illegal - not sure what the story is ...
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Nay-DMAX on October 04, 2014, 07:45:18 AM
Like lino6 said we have the electric fence for the horses and have set up the back yard for the dogs the 5 year old Shepherd who came to live with us this year got out over the top twice but we have put wire up there too and she had already hit the other wire and knew what that meant. Has stayed in since, ours is mains powered so probably gives  a kick. You can now buy solar powered units if you don't have somewhere to plug in a mains unit or you can get ones that run off a car battery. Around the yard we just have the thin rope looking wire not the flat stuff but you could use either.  Good luck and great you are doing something to keep her in. I have known in the past of dogs who just got out daily and not a lot was done to stop them.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: StrvnMrvn on October 04, 2014, 08:11:28 AM
Thanks for the replys people!

Going to have a look at a farm produce place to see how I go with getting a fence. I only need about 30m because she only jumps the fence on one side!
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: D4D on October 04, 2014, 08:21:45 AM
Being a fly fisho who likes to walk along the rivers edge 'sometimes' through farmers' properties, I can vouch for the 'whack' from an electric fence :'(
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Andrew_C on October 04, 2014, 08:34:14 AM
We had a collar type unit for ours staffy, he was too stupid to realise why some thing was stinging him when he went near the fence. He would put up with it and walk right through.

Proper electric fence with tape, a few zaps and a bit of yelping later and hasn't got out since.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: cutter on October 04, 2014, 08:39:05 AM
same here we had the shock collar fence $300+ for our staffy. she worked out if she ran flat out over it she would only get zapped once. once she was the other side of it she would never come back. total waste of money and so was the fence.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Memem284 on October 04, 2014, 11:51:23 AM
Have a look here:

http://www.huskycamp.com/security.htm (http://www.huskycamp.com/security.htm)

Looks like a few good ideas.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: dazzler on October 04, 2014, 12:39:57 PM
Have a look here:

http://www.huskycamp.com/security.htm (http://www.huskycamp.com/security.htm)

Looks like a few good ideas.


 :D
Huskies and Malamutes.  No there is a WHOLE world of PAIN.

Cute. Cuddly.  But happiest dragging a sled being beaten with a chain in the snow.....  :D
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: jetcrew on October 06, 2014, 10:48:45 AM
:D
Huskies and Malamutes.  No there is a WHOLE world of PAIN.

Cute. Cuddly.  But happiest dragging a sled being beaten with a chain in the snow.....  :D

Mine Maly is  50KG and I can vouch for them being hard work to begin with ..until about 3years old he was very hard work but the last 4 years have seen him turn into an awesome dog.

DO NOT get a huski or MalY if you dont want to put the time into them ..they must be integrated into a family unit / pack structure and this includes every part of thier lives.

unfortunately most like the "look" then leave them in the yard for 10 yrs a day with no interaction and spend less than 2 hrs a day with them ..I think  If people are time poor which is part of life these days then buy a breed that's not so heavily reliant on a pack structure for development. 

Starvy, I will have a look in the shed i may still have the fence unit which you are welcome to borrow to see if it works for a few months.

Jet ;D ;D
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: StrvnMrvn on October 06, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
Cheers Jet!! I'm on my way to sydney for work for a few weeks. I'll let the SWMBO know about it. We just keep her tied up now and let her off when we are in the back yard for long periods of time, so about three times a day.


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Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Straitened Out on October 06, 2014, 01:25:42 PM
The one I have seen is dug into the ground, is yours? Or can you nail to to a fence as well?

Any info would help!  :cheers:
Mine is nailed to the wooden fence in parts, wound around a strand of barbed wire in others and the only parts under the ground are in the gateways.
Cheers
S.O.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Redcherokee on October 06, 2014, 01:27:19 PM
Have a look here:

http://www.huskycamp.com/security.htm (http://www.huskycamp.com/security.htm)

Looks like a few good ideas.


I've seen that rolling pin method used to keep cats in as well. They painted the PVC to match the colour of their fence.  Been very tempted to do it at our place, but never quite got around to it.


Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Bookleaf on October 06, 2014, 04:56:41 PM
There is a commercial version of the rolling pin method available, aimed at cats and would, in theory,  seem to be effective.  It consists of aluminum tube mounted on solid posts with plastic bearings inside the tube at each end.
The DYI version shown seems to be a good way to go.  I think it should work.  Wire center being extra taut would be the key so it does not sag when the dog puts his paws on it.
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: jetcrew on October 07, 2014, 09:56:09 AM
I found it in the shed is is a  Thunderbird B - 6/12

It does upto 2KM the roll of the rope has been cut up by my mate >:D >:D >:D so depending on how long the run is you may need just the rope but I think for along 1 fence you will find a piece long enough.

http://www.fscla.org.au/Electric%20fence%20manual.pdf (http://www.fscla.org.au/Electric%20fence%20manual.pdf)

If you wanna borrow it just sing out mate ;D ;D

Jet :D

Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: The punter on October 07, 2014, 01:43:10 PM
Your dog has spearation anxiety. Ours had the same thing. The dog thinks it is it's role to look after you. When you go out, the dog can't do the job so it has to go looking for you.  We got a dog whisperer. It was expensive, but worked 100% Ours ripped through a stud wall. Now she doesnt give a rats arse when I go out. 
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: affubilbok on October 08, 2014, 08:25:00 PM
+ 1 for the electric fence. My 2 cattle dogs used get out every other day until I ran a single strand of electric fence along the bottom. They only touched it once and have never got out since!


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Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: GGV8Cruza on October 09, 2014, 12:06:53 PM
We had a dog that continuously dug out from one of my Dads yards, he was supposed to be guarding it and would then take off to the pound to meet all his lady friends. To cure the problem we got a chain around 12 feet long and tethered it to an empty milk crate. He had to drag the thing around the yard all night long, after a while he stopped digging holes. Also saved a lt of cartons for the pound boss

Just another method  :D

GG
Title: Re: Keeping the dog in!
Post by: Beachman on October 09, 2014, 12:21:14 PM
The guy across the road also had the same problem when new neighbours moved in who also had a dog. They solved the problem by cutting out a section of the timer fence and making it into a gate. So during daylight hours Monday to Friday the gate is open and both dogs play together in both yards.