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Title: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: Steffo1 on September 13, 2014, 10:22:19 AM
It has been mentioned to me over the past couple of years by several friends & rellies that the 'Cruiser is very hard to see on an open road. After a workmate nearly pulled out in front of me a few months ago & told me the same thing, I've taken to driving with low beam on, however this is fraught with disaster as the age of the vehicle means that there is no alarm for the lights being on when the ignition is turned off or keys removed i.e. Old Fart walks off & leaves lights on!
This happened recently when I'd put the vehicle away around 1 p.m. & the good woman arrives home at 8:30 p.m. & finds the shed has an interior glow. I just managed to start the diesel the next morning!
With the advent of LED Running Lights I have a few questions!
1) Is it legal to fit aftermarket DRLs in Qld?
2) Do they have to be in a certain position?
3) Has anyone done this?
4) Does anyone here market them?
I know they have to be less than 25w & must turn off when the head lights are in use.
Any advice appreciated.
Steve
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: StrvnMrvn on September 13, 2014, 11:01:25 AM
I wouldn't see there being an issue, it would be just like putting spot lights on your vehicle.

Have a search of the Department of Transport sight.

This will be an interesting thread!

Just found this - Page 92.

https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/CURRENT/T/TrantOpRUVSSR10.pdf (https://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/LEGISLTN/CURRENT/T/TrantOpRUVSSR10.pdf)
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: D4D on September 13, 2014, 11:11:20 AM
1) Is it legal to fit aftermarket DRLs in Qld? Yes as long as they are ADR compliant
2) Do they have to be in a certain position? Outer most edge and as low as possible
3) Has anyone done this? Planning on it
4) Does anyone here market them? Autoelecau

I'd get a set of these and fit them, I plan on fitting the same to the Prado.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100-Authentic-PHILIPS-Luxeon-LED-Daylight-4-Daytime-Running-Light-DRL-Lights-/111122250530 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100-Authentic-PHILIPS-Luxeon-LED-Daylight-4-Daytime-Running-Light-DRL-Lights-/111122250530)

(http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac215/tradeworkz/tradeworks/PhilipsDaylight4-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: paceman on September 13, 2014, 11:50:36 AM
1) Is it legal to fit aftermarket DRLs in Qld? Yes as long as they are ADR compliant
2) Do they have to be in a certain position? Outer most edge and as low as possible
3) Has anyone done this? Planning on it
4) Does anyone here market them? Autoelecau

I'd get a set of these and fit them, I plan on fitting the same to the Prado.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100-Authentic-PHILIPS-Luxeon-LED-Daylight-4-Daytime-Running-Light-DRL-Lights-/111122250530 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/100-Authentic-PHILIPS-Luxeon-LED-Daylight-4-Daytime-Running-Light-DRL-Lights-/111122250530)

(http://i901.photobucket.com/albums/ac215/tradeworkz/tradeworks/PhilipsDaylight4-2.jpg)


interested to know how and where you are fitting these on your prado?

i have a factory bullbar on the bt50 and am also keen on fitting something like this...
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: dazzler on September 13, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Would it be cheaper for them to

OPEN THEIR FREAKING EYES!

:)
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: Steffo1 on September 13, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
interested to know how and where you are fitting these on your prado?

i have a factory bullbar on the bt50 and am also keen on fitting something like this...
I'm interested to see the result too as I've got an ARB bar with winch & 30" light bar on it. I was thinking of grill mounting but can't make the ADR dimensions then! If on the lower bumper, as in the photo, they may be too close to the indicators????
Thanks for the help, all
Steve
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: Homer_Jay on September 13, 2014, 03:23:02 PM
I think you can get an auto elect to wire up a warning buzzer. Then you wont forget to turn off the lights.
Might be easier than extra lights?


Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: peterdeg on September 13, 2014, 04:13:24 PM
I got a $15 pair of led lights off ebay. They're just stick-ons.
The only thing with DRL's is they have to switch off automatically when headlights/parking lights are switched on.
I had a relay sitting unused on the workbench. Wired it up as 'normally closed' and tapped into the parking lights on the bullbar as the trigger, so the DRL's switch off when the parking lights switch on.

It's a bit of an experiment to see what the longevity of cheap lights is like.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I6dkqCN783Q/U4p3f07InFI/AAAAAAAAB_U/da2PXJfURUs/w640-h444-no/RunningLights.jpg)
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: Steffo1 on September 13, 2014, 04:27:18 PM
Would it be cheaper for them to

OPEN THEIR FREAKING EYES!

:)
I said the same thing early on! However, living in a rural environment, after doing a few sight distance/visibility tests on our roads I had to admit that the vehicle was harder to see than our other 4x4 in same conditions. Quite scary really!
The buzzer sounds (pardon the pun)a good idea or  maybe an auto on/off with the ignition like motorcycles?
Steve
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: D4D on September 13, 2014, 05:44:41 PM
interested to know how and where you are fitting these on your prado?

I was thinking in the split pan on either side of the upright. Not strictly legal as you need 600mm spacing. Other option is to find a round DRL to replace the IPF fogs as I never use the fogs.
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: dazzler on September 13, 2014, 06:40:08 PM
I said the same thing early on! However, living in a rural environment, after doing a few sight distance/visibility tests on our roads I had to admit that the vehicle was harder to see than our other 4x4 in same conditions. Quite scary really!
The buzzer sounds (pardon the pun)a good idea or  maybe an auto on/off with the ignition like motorcycles?
Steve
Im just stirring.  Given how bad the drivers are, maybe just run some spotties!
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: wartim on September 13, 2014, 08:23:54 PM
Hey Steffo1,
I do a lot of driving out west to the Surat Basin on roads with long straights, you would be surprised how hard it is to see dark coloured cars that seem to blend in with the horizon and its even worse on dusk and dawn when they should have their lights on and dont >:(  The regulars out west all drive with their lights on and it is so much easier to judge their distances away when wanting to overtake. 

So much safer you wont be sorry your doing the right thing :cheers:
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: GeoffA on September 13, 2014, 08:28:44 PM
Maybe wire the headlights via an ign triggered relay?
Title: Re: Daytime Safety (Running) Lights For The 'Cruiser 'Tilley
Post by: NewieCamper on September 13, 2014, 08:38:42 PM
+ one for light on with ign.

My forester, and it think most subies, run headlights and parkers on ign on only, I leave mine on 90% of the time and the car just turns em off for me. There must be a rule that says parkers must be able to operate without a key because there is a battery-kill switch on top of the steering wheel that turns on the parkers. A lot of people don't realise what it does and run the battery down not realising they've turned on the he parkers.