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Title: Car theft statisics
Post by: evolution on August 24, 2014, 11:10:41 AM
G'day guys and gals,
Due to a timely post by another myswagger I thought I would provide a short message and a couple of links that we use at work.
As allot of you know I work (day job) in the automotive industry as a fitter.
In short I specialise in the following
ME: Mobile electronics
*Audio visual (DVD, radios, speakers and amps)
*reverse aids (cameras, sensors)

Aftermarket addons
*roof rack systems
*barwork
*canopies
*uhfs
*Winches
ETC,ETC
Im sure you get the drift lol

One of the biggest things that I do though is specialise in vehicle security.
Cars have come along way from 15 years ago as far as theft protection goes. However NO car is unstealable nor is it safe.

Since 2009 the average theft rate per year is 58,051. In 2013 54,393 vehicles were stolen.
These numbers do not take into account vehicle break ins where theft was not the point nor do they account for vehicles where theft was the target but were not able to complete.

Now just a couple of quick points regarding new cars.
In 2013 the two most stolen cars were both Holden Commodores.
HOWEVER, the MOST stolen were VT series commodores. These average around the 2000 year model
with a total of 968 stolen.

The next most stolen car was the VE commodore.
These average around the 2008 year model. So still a fairly new car with a sophisticated factory security system.
With a total of 830 stolen.

All data can be found here
http://ncars.on.net/index.html (http://ncars.on.net/index.html)

The point I am trying to make is that no matter how new your car is, it can be stolen! If you think its safe as it has a factory immobiliser then I ask you how long you think it would take to put it on the back of a tilt tray?
There are many brands of alarms out there that can help improve your security. BUT do your research first on the quality and reliability of brands.
Another thing to think of, If you do add a security system to your car consider a two way system.
The reason for this is that most people hear a siren going off and even though its annoying they ignore it.
However if your alarm sends you a message to say its been triggered at least you know what is going on.

Cheers
Evo

Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Bad Scott on August 24, 2014, 11:20:56 AM
My sms would say, open a can of whoop a.. Lime powder, shovel and a nice spot. These days its almost standard to have video camera pointing at your prized possessions
Sent from .................
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: dazzler on August 24, 2014, 11:25:08 AM
I have insurance.

Car gets stolen.  I get another one.

Just make sure the full value is covered.  :D
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Bad Scott on August 24, 2014, 11:45:22 AM
I have insurance.

Car gets stolen.  I get another one.

Just make sure the full value is covered.  :D
Pain in butt when it does get stolen. Have had it happen to me before. 2 weeks later found dumped. Insurance repaired it, never the same. They had flogged the .... Out of it hitting red line for long periods. Insurance didn't cover engine needing rebuilding, transmission rebuilding and diff rebuilding as LSD was shot. They said it is wear and tear and could have been like this before it was stolen. The vehicle was always serviced at 5k by me.
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: kylarama on August 24, 2014, 12:01:58 PM
It's not only your car you need to keep secure, but also your car keys.  Many cars are stolen using it's keys.
You're out the back mowing the lawns, in through the front door, swipe the keys off the bench and away they go.
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: dazzler on August 24, 2014, 12:44:15 PM
Pain in butt when it does get stolen. Have had it happen to me before. 2 weeks later found dumped. Insurance repaired it, never the same. They had flogged the .... Out of it hitting red line for long periods. Insurance didn't cover engine needing rebuilding, transmission rebuilding and diff rebuilding as LSD was shot. They said it is wear and tear and could have been like this before it was stolen. The vehicle was always serviced at 5k by me.

Good point. 
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: speewa158 on August 24, 2014, 01:40:02 PM
ls it still  against the law to shoot to kill  , 1st offence ,,,,, then you get tuff with them    >:D
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Bad Scott on August 24, 2014, 01:42:39 PM
ls it still  against the law to shoot to kill  , 1st offence ,,,,, then you get tuff with them    >:D
All you need to do is slow em down speewa. Knee caps
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Bird on August 24, 2014, 02:04:20 PM
All you need to do is slow em down speewa. Knee caps
dead scrotes tell no stories... if you kneecap them they will sue you and win... you'll be homeless while piece of Shit Shits on the carpet of their new house...


Love your info Evo.. I'll wait for the phone call tomorrow.
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Bad Scott on August 24, 2014, 02:39:07 PM
dead scrotes tell no stories... if you kneecap them they will sue you and win... you'll be homeless while piece of **** ****s on the carpet of their new house...


Love your info Evo.. I'll wait for the phone call tomorrow.
That's so you can get the scum. The rest will leave to your imagination.
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on August 24, 2014, 04:51:18 PM
It's not only your car you need to keep secure, but also your car keys.  Many cars are stolen using it's keys.
You're out the back mowing the lawns, in through the front door, swipe the keys off the bench and away they go.

BINGO !!!

And there lies the easiest way to secure a vehicle in today's world. Don't leave the keys out for them to grab. The scum will walk into your house, whilst you and/or your family are there.

I too am involved a little in vehicle ect security. You would be amazed at how easy it is to relieve someone of their vehicle.

Most households it would be possible to locate car keys within 20 seconds of entry.

Shane.

Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on August 25, 2014, 06:12:09 AM
A couple of other things to consider, or be aware of. Without going into detail on how too......., punch 'VIN to PIN' into google. (VIN # to PIN # )

Or for the Datsun owners, as that's what sparked this thread,  ;D  'NATS PIN code calculator' into google.
Once armed with these programmes, an iPad, $14.95 Bluetooth dongley thing from eBay, and the factory immobiliser is crap.

The Commodores as mentioned by Evo, are even easier. Google 'Delco VATS removal'

One of the simple mods we do to a lot of late model vehicles, is simply lengthen the wires on the OBDII plug and move it. They are all in the same position on every vehicle for each model. Moving it elsewhere just makes it that little bit harder.  :D  (you would be amazed at the info obtained, and altered  >:D via one of these little plugs)

Shane




Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: NewieCamper on August 25, 2014, 07:48:54 AM
Most households it would be possible to locate car keys within 20 seconds of entry.

Maybe I need to hire a car thief to help locate my keys then. Hiding my keys is the easy part...
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Bird on August 25, 2014, 07:59:12 AM
Quote from: Footy Shorts Shane
One of the simple mods we do to a lot of late model vehicles, is simply lengthen the wires on the OBDII plug and move it. They are all in the same position on every vehicle for each model. Moving it elsewhere just makes it that little bit harder.  :D  (you would be amazed at the info obtained, and altered  >:D via one of these little plugs)
Nice simple idea...


Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: gumboot on August 25, 2014, 11:23:28 AM
Good idea to slow them down
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Aaron Schubert on August 25, 2014, 11:26:06 AM
Its a shame that we have to worry about these things.

Regarding the keys, you are better off having them easily accessible on the kitchen bench than hiding them, and having a thief go through your bedrooms looking for them. Too many people get hurt in robberies, and at the end of the day a car is replaceable

Aaron
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: NewieCamper on August 25, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
Its a shame that we have to worry about these things.

Regarding the keys, you are better off having them easily accessible on the kitchen bench than hiding them, and having a thief go through your bedrooms looking for them. Too many people get hurt in robberies, and at the end of the day a car is replaceable

Aaron

We've got an old laptop to leave out for the same reason, it's got a busted screen but will be a good decoy I just need to format it first. My grandmother was also told she should leave out some easy cash, $40 many years ago, after someone broke in the front door while she was out the back.
Title: Re: Car theft statisics
Post by: Mallory Black on August 25, 2014, 09:13:14 PM
I have a secret switch on the main fuel pump power wire. nothing elaborate just a 20 amp switch that is well hidden. Even if the genius thief knew how to override the pump relay, it's still not going to fire.
Saved my VL from getting pinched years ago.
All I had to do was replace my busted locks and it was good to go again.
If I got any thing pinched the worst aspects of my ancestry will come out.
Dutch- Barstard
Irish- Prick
Scottish- Madman

arrrrr