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News sites are filtering through
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A US county sherrif's office has confirmed that the comedic actor Robin Williams has died aged 63 at his California home, just before midday local time.
The statement reads:
"On August 11, 2014, at about 11:55 am, Marin County Communications received a 9-1-1 telephone call reporting a male adult had been located unconscious and not breathing inside his residence in unincorporated Tiburon, CA.
"The Sheriff’s Office, as well as the Tiburon Fire Department and Southern Marin Fire Protection District were dispatched to the incident with emergency personnel arriving on scene at 12:00 pm.
"The male subject, pronounced deceased at 12:02 pm has been identified as Robin McLaurin Williams, a 63 year old resident of unincorporated Tiburon, CA.
"An investigation into the cause, manner, and circumstances of the death is currently underway by the Investigations and Coroner Divisions of the Sheriff’s Office.
"Preliminary information developed during the investigation indicates Mr. Williams was last seen alive at his residence, where he resides with his wife, at approximately 10:00 pm on August 10, 2014. Mr. Williams was located this morning shortly before the 9-1-1 call was placed to Marin County Communications.
"At this time, the Sheriff’s Office Coroner Division suspects the death to be a suicide due to asphyxia, but a comprehensive investigation must be completed before a final determination is made.
"A forensic examination is currently scheduled for August 12, 2014 with subsequent toxicology testing to be conducted."
More to come
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/actor-robin-williams-dead-aged-63-20140812-102zzn.html#ixzz3A806m1U3 (http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/actor-robin-williams-dead-aged-63-20140812-102zzn.html#ixzz3A806m1U3)
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what a terrible waste. such a talent.
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Shocking Stuff. Absolutely Shocking.
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http://heavy.com/entertainment/2014/08/rip-robin-williams-dead-death-dies/ (http://heavy.com/entertainment/2014/08/rip-robin-williams-dead-death-dies/)
In a Statement, His Family Said Williams Had Been Battling Depression
Williams had re-entered rehab in the last few months. In a statement, his family said:
Robin Williams passed away this morning. He has been battling severe depression of late. This is a tragic and sudden loss. The family respectfully asks for their privacy as they grieve during this very difficult time.
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what a terrible waste. such a talent.
X2 on above....he always made me laugh
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Such a shame. He certainly brightened the world and gave us all a reason to laugh ;D
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RIP Robbin Williams...you gave us so many laughs......you'll be missed :'(
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Very sad. Depression doesn't discriminate whoever you are
Swannie
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Shazbut, that's the worst news I could have imagined. So sad, one of my all time favourite comedians :'(
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A very sad day for his family and his fans. To bring laughter to so many and then in recent years not be able to find the laughter himself, Swannie you are so right depression doesn't discriminate. RIP Robin thanks for the great laughs you have brought to the screens.
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One of my favourite actors. He will be sorely missed.
Mark
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Tragic news. >:D
Such a shame he didn't share the joy he bought others. RIP.
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A real bummer. One of the funniest guys I have ever seen.
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Very sad. Depression doesn't discriminate whoever you are
Understatement.. and the medications can have extreme side effects.. specially when you forget to take them camping and go cold turkey...
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I do believe he was a Bipolar sufferer. For those who are unsure about bipolar you get both extremes. The big highs and big lows. They use to call it manic depressive.
You can get the massive highs where you don't need sleep, creative juices flow and on top of the world, then you hit rock bottom. Depending on what level of bipolar the swings can be extremely opposite for short or long term.
It saddens me but we can also take something from this sad day is see a doctor if you don't feel right.
Robin Williams is my favourite actor of all time and also made me feel better when I was diagnosed with Bipolar a number of years ago that I wasn't alone.
RIP Robin, you may now be gone but still inspirational to me.
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RIP Robin Williams
To anybody out there in the extended family of Swaggers anywhere pleas find somebody to talk to if you are feeling the dark side of depression .
Reach out to a trained professional to share with them that they might work you through this .
Life is so important , don't waste the sunrise tomorrow the start of a new day .
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Well spoken Speewa.
RIP Robin Williams, you will be missed.
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Thought I was a tough man, had a tear today, RIP mate, what a loss...
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Thought I was a tough man, had a tear today, RIP mate, what a loss...
Being a tough man doesn't mean you never cry you can still be tough but have emotions. I hope that Robin is at peace now as it seems he hasn't been able to find that here.
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From a person who has a few loved ones with mental health issues, it is a right b!tch of a disease :(. So sad to hear of Robins passing, it seems to have caught up with him in the end :(
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RIP Robin
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A great loss indeed. :'(
I have noticed all media reports now involving death, tragedy or suicide are ending with contact details for helplines.
This is a good thing and one that should be encouraged.
I'm sure lots of people on myswag have a story to tell on friends or family that suffer depression, but I just want to put it out there that no myswagger should ever suffer in silence.
Ask for help. Its no different to asking someone to hold the gate while you push the camper through, or throw another log on the fire.
Just don't let it get to a point where you feel lost.
Help is available and free. Sometimes just a friendly ear works a treat.
Every day above ground is a great day.
:cheers:
Brian
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A great loss indeed. :'(
I have noticed all media reports now involving death, tragedy or suicide are ending with contact details for helplines.
This is a good thing and one that should be encouraged.
I'm sure lots of people on myswag have a story to tell on friends or family that suffer depression, but I just want to put it out there that no myswagger should ever suffer in silence.
Ask for help. Its no different to asking someone to hold the gate while you push the camper through, or throw another log on the fire.
Just don't let it get to a point where you feel lost.
Help is available and free. Sometimes just a friendly ear works a treat.
Every day above ground is a great day.
:cheers:
Brian
Well Said. The Black Dog does go aeay with help.
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RIP Robin Williams. A great talent lost.
Nanu-Nanu!
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Very sad, an incredible talent that, brought so many laughs for all of us. He will be sadly missed
To those who are suffering, or know someone who is, here is a great resource.
http://www.mantherapy.org.au (http://www.mantherapy.org.au)
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Depression in general can be controlled and talking and medication can help wonders.
Chronic Major Depression, particularly if combined with major anxiety, is far far far more difficult to treat as you are trying to reconnect the damaged neurotransmitters in the brain and no amount of talking about it will help.
I have a loved one with this diagnosis and their life is extremely difficult. Trees are scary, people are scary, noises are scary. Often you will go shopping and find the person hiding in the corner of a store too scared to move and not knowing where they are. These behaviours compound and major depression then kicks in and life is doubly hard. Even electro convulsive therapy to the brain did more damage than good.
Robin is at peace. Though its sad I understand why he went where he did.
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Very sad. Depression doesn't discriminate whoever you are
Swannie
No it doesn't, and that is the very sad part. Almost as though he used all of his powers to make others happy and forget about him self. It is interesting to read how many comedians are troubled by this type of disease, what can we do ???
There is nothing we can say to make this better - RIP Robin Williams. You were simply brilliant.
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RIP Robin Williams.
Some of the funniest stuff was his interviews that would go so far off topic you would think he would fit right in on this forum!
He will be missed. Thoughts go out to his family, especially his kids.
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With the loss of Robyn Williams, the world became a sadder place this morning.
It was heartening to read some of the enlightened posts here today about mental illness in general and depression and biplar in particular. I have suffered from Bipolar II for a long time. It's the little brother to full blown bipolar disorder and, after a bit of therapy, I now manage to deal with it without medication.
On a bad day, I refuse to make any big decisions and just make it a special day to be kind to myself. I'd tell my staff that I'm having a bad day and won't be in for work and they understand. The reason that they understand is that I told them about the problem a long time ago.
I think mental disease is a disease that actually tells you that you haven't got it - if that makes sense. And talking about it is the hardest thing of all. For many people, hearing about it is even harder.
Keith
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No it doesn't, and that is the very sad part. Almost as though he used all of his powers to make others happy and forget about him self. It is interesting to read how many comedians are troubled by this type of disease, what can we do ???
There is nothing we can say to make this better - RIP Robin Williams. You were simply brilliant.
It seems Genius's often comes at this price, or substance abuse.
Often reminded by the saying "everyone you meet is fighting a battle you know nothing about" so be kind.
RIP Robin Williams.
Some of the funniest stuff was his interviews that would go so far off topic you would think he would fit right in on this forum!
He will be missed. Thoughts go out to his family, especially his kids.
Oh the interviews, watched one tonight were he told the story of Aussie troops in Afghanistan watching his concert sitting on a fuel tanker smoking!
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I understand Robin Williams had open heart surgery a few years ago. His wife has also come out this morning and advised that he had recently been diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease.
I was diagnosed with Parkinson's two years ago and had a heart attack 6 years ago after which I was prescribed Lipitor (atorvastatin). Lipitor is the 'goto' drug for cardiologists as is has proved very beneficial to people who have had open heart by-pass surgery, coronary stents inserted to alleviate angina pectoris (like myself) and other associated cardio-vascular diseases.
Now here is some interesting stuff for you. Since I've been on Lipitor, I have suffered from slowly increasing severe pain at the base of my brain where the back of the neck and head join which is apparently where the part of the brain is that produces dopamine, the lack of which causes Parkinson's Disease. I have no history of Parkinson's in my family, not that that matters, Parkinson's is not genetically transferred from parent to offspring apparently, but what is uncommon is early onset Parkinson's, as I am only 49 years old.
In my case, the pain was getting worse and worse, regardless of following instructions for a better lifestyle, quitting smoking, improving my diet, exercising, medication, but the pain in my head at the base of my skull persisted to the point where it was making a huge impact on my life and that of my family.
I have taken it upon myself to stop taking Lipitor for the last 4 months, against my doctor's orders. The pain in the base of my neck has gone, completely, no trace of it. My Parkinson's symptoms are improving, but I am under no illusions that I now have Parkinson's and to what extent this has been caused by Lipitor, I can only speculate.
Lipitor is the largest seller drug in the world. A study was undertaken to see if there was a link between it and Parkinson's disease. In the last year or so, the number of 'so called studies' of this link have been hijacked by the pharmaceutical industry to the extent where the industry is suggesting that if you stop taking the biggest selling drug in the world, the chances are that your likelihood of developing Parkinson's Disease will increase if you stop taking it. Only one study that I have so far read by a doctor suggests that he is alarmed when the pharmaceutical industry starts defending a drug in the face of growing speculation about its side affects.
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interesting that you have been talking about lipitor.
i also was prescribed lipitor for potential heart issues (my father and uncle have both had 5-way bypasses).
i have since stopped taking this medication and have tried to go back to more natural ways of getting a healthier cardiovascular system.
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I just want to add, don't stop taking your Lipitor if you have been prescribed it. I have specific reasons for suspecting that Lipitor is causing me problems, which includes decreased liver function, a known side effect of Lipitor.
My cholesterol was only 1.7, and again there is a lot of anecdotal evidence on the internet that suggests having too low an LDL-C level of cholesterol in your body increases the chances of getting Parkinson's.
I have just had a cholesterol blood test on Wednesday, and my GP wants me to see him on Saturday morning to discuss my cholesterol level which has obviously risen. In the face of being told to go back on to Lipitor, I will be asking my GP for a referral to a cardiologist to discuss my concerns with him and talk about other strategies to control my cholesterol.
My advise to anyone who is prescribed Lipitor is to talk to a cardiologist, not your GP. Lipitor is a cardiovascular drug and in my opinion is over prescribed by GP's and should be under tighter control.
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Lipitor is the largest seller drug in the world. A study was undertaken to see if there was a link between it and Parkinson's disease. In the last year or so, the number of 'so called studies' of this link have been hijacked by the pharmaceutical industry to the extent where the industry is suggesting that if you stop taking the biggest selling drug in the world, the chances are that your likelihood of developing Parkinson's Disease will increase if you stop taking it. Only one study that I have so far read by a doctor suggests that he is alarmed when the pharmaceutical industry starts defending a drug in the face of growing speculation about its side affects.
Its bullShit how $$ is worth more than lives to these people... I've been bouncing around on AD's for years of different forms, different Dr's seem to have their favorites they prescribe, I think it all has to do with backhanders from the pharmaceutical industry
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I think it all has to do with backhanders from the pharmaceutical industry
I have no doubt about that. The number of bullsh!t pharmaceutical industry sponsored studies in the last year defending Lipitor in the face of increasing numbers of people reporting PD symptoms whilst taking this drug is unbelievable. Just search for 'Atorvastatin Parkinsons Disease' on google and you'll see what I mean.
The studies by universities and doctors typically explore the link between increased incidences of Parkinson's Disease and consumption of atorvastatin, whereas the studies by pharmaceutical companies explores the link between not taking atorvastatin at all and the increased likelihood of Parkinson's Disease if you don't take it or cease taking it.
Who do you believe?
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I just want to add, don't stop taking your Lipitor if you have been prescribed it. I have specific reasons for suspecting that Lipitor is causing me problems, which includes decreased liver function, a known side effect of Lipitor.
My cholesterol was only 1.7, and again there is a lot of anecdotal evidence on the internet that suggests having too low an LDL-C level of cholesterol in your body increases the chances of getting Parkinson's.
I have just had a cholesterol blood test on Wednesday, and my GP wants me to see him on Saturday morning to discuss my cholesterol level which has obviously risen. In the face of being told to go back on to Lipitor, I will be asking my GP for a referral to a cardiologist to discuss my concerns with him and talk about other strategies to control my cholesterol.
My advise to anyone who is prescribed Lipitor is to talk to a cardiologist, not your GP. Lipitor is a cardiovascular drug and in my opinion is over prescribed by GP's and should be under tighter control.
i stopped with advice and a plan from my GP, so not just off my own bat... :)
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That's a bit scary Marschy. Thanks for the heads up.
I hope you get it all sorted and best of luck.
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One of the side effects of Lipitor is muscle pain. I was on that and blood pressure medication + anxiety chit but stopped taking everything cold turkey without telling my Dr. My blood pressure, cholesterol and anxiety problems are under control but I put this down to getting back onto my treadly and trying to get fitter + also watching what I shove down my throat! ;) Depression, Anxiety, and Bipolar coupled with the pressures of finding out you also have Parkinsons, would just be a hell of a kick in the guts to try and live with. :'(
Myself personally, I don't know how I would react but I'm a stubborn bastard and could go either way, I think! ???
Foo
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One of the side effects of Lipitor is muscle pain. I was on that and blood pressure medication + anxiety chit but stopped taking everything cold turkey without telling my Dr. My blood pressure, cholesterol and anxiety problems are under control but I put this down to getting back onto my treadly and trying to get fitter + also watching what I shove down my throat! ;) Depression, Anxiety, and Bipolar coupled with the pressures of finding out you also have Parkinsons, would just be a hell of a kick in the guts to try and live with. :'(
Myself personally, I don't know how I would react but I'm a stubborn bastard and could go either way, I think! ???
Foo
I've had a heart attack, diagnosed with Parkinsons and depression all in the last 5 years. Don't want to top myself though. Depression is a common problem with males who have had heart attacks apparently.
The big thing with depression, in my book, is fessing up to yourself that you have a problem and getting something done about it.
The Parkinson's Association of SA helped me here. They simply said to me, "You have Parkinson's so you take Sinemet dopamine therapy to help control it. You've also had a heart attack. If your not suffering from depression, you are freakin' superman. So why do you think that a bit of serotonin therapy wouldn't help for depression where dopamine therapy does help for Parkinson's?". It was very practical advise.
My issue was that I am taking so much medication for managing my heart condition and Parkinsons, and the problems I have had with my medication, that when you get asked if you want to take more drugs to control your depression you are very reluctant. The thought of taking more medication for controlling depression is in itself depressing.
Ironic, you bet. But once you get some help, things can and do start to turn around.
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The Lipitor family has a huge number of side effects, all of which seem to have slipped past the so-called clinical trials. . For me, it is loss of memory. Some people get full one day blackouts. In fact there is a book called 'Lipitor the Thief of Memory" which is a good read.
It has just occurred to me what a wonderful forum this is for discussing the health issues that accompany TMB (Too Many Birthdays).
Keith
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The Lipitor family has a huge number of side effects, all of which seem to have slipped past the so-called clinical trials. . For me, it is loss of memory. Some people get full one day blackouts. In fact there is a book called 'Lipitor the Thief of Memory" which is a good read.
It has just occurred to me what a wonderful forum this is for discussing the health issues that accompany TMB (Too Many Birthdays).
Keith
But if you search on google for 'atorvastatin' (Lipitor is Phizer's brand of the then patented drug atorvastatin which is now produced by other manufacturers including Sandoz) you will be bamboozled with hundreds of pharmaceutical reports of its benefits and very little mention of its detrimental effects. Delve a bit further and start reading the university and clinical studies and you get a different picture.
What is even more annoying is the fact that the contraindication sheets that are required to accompany drugs by law in the US that divulge side effects are not required by law to accompany them in Australia. This leaves people like me, to either blindly follow the instructions of their GP or specialist handling their condition, or do their own research. The problem with the latter, is your GP, or mine in particular, doesn't like me doing my own research. This is after all what he did all that training for.
Did you know that drugs produced by US pharmaceutical companies that are accompanied by a contraindication sheet are removed by pharmacists in Australia before it is dispensed to the customer. Why? I'd like to know if something has a detrimental effect on me regardless of where I live in the world.
My GP said the cause of all the pain in my neck/head is a direct consequence of Parkinson's and I must keep taking my medication to control cholesterol, so get used to it.
But I know my own body better than my GP and I have been questioning why I have a rare condition (for my age), and you start looking for reasons why something has started occurring in your life and what may be the root cause.
And I know what you mean by blackouts. While I was still taking Lipitor I would quite often be doing something inside the house and I would often go out to the garage to get something I need, only to walk in the garage door and think "What the hell do I need in here again". My cognitive thought processes are improving since getting off atorvastatin as well.
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Marschy,
I'm with you.
I think that the clinical trials show that, although statins reduce the incidence and severity of cardiovascular events, they do not reduce total morbidity. In other words, statins may reduce your chance of heart attack or stroke, but they increase your chances of dying from something else.
Other research indicates that, over age 60, blood cholesterol is irrelevant and, over 75 it is protective. But I think that is research may have been contested.
Years ago I went off to see a new GP about my depression. He had a Zoloft coffee mug and a Zoloft note pad and pen on his desk. Have a guesss what script I came away with?
Keith
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Marschy,
I'm with you.
I think that the clinical trials show that, although statins reduce the incidence and severity of cardiovascular events, they do not reduce total morbidity. In other words, statins may reduce your chance of heart attack or stroke, but they increase your chances of dying from something else.
Other research indicates that, over age 60, blood cholesterol is irrelevant and, over 75 it is protective. But I think that is research may have been contested.
Years ago I went off to see a new GP about my depression. He had a Zoloft coffee mug and a Zoloft note pad and pen on his desk. Have a guesss what script I came away with?
Keith
When I had my heart attack and I was admitted to the Royal Adelaide Hospital, there was a guy in the ward, about 75 years old. Dr told me reassuringly that look at him, he had a heart attack 30 years ago and here he is today.
He was dying of liver failure caused by medication.
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Marschy,
It is apparent that we are in clear need of a Myswag old farts health string, where we can talk about health and medication and maybe swap experiences, ideas and success stories. Particularly health issues that come up on the road. I am sure that there is a wealth of wisdom and experience among the Myswag community.
I am in Hanoi about to jump on a plane. If you don't start one up, I will when I get back.
Keith
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http://media.theage.com.au/featured/robin-williams-mourned-by-koko-5679932.html (http://media.theage.com.au/featured/robin-williams-mourned-by-koko-5679932.html)
This would have been such an AWESOME experience.. I'd love the opportunity to do something like this..
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Marschy,
It is apparent that we are in clear need of a Myswag old farts health string, where we can talk about health and medication and maybe swap experiences, ideas and success stories. Particularly health issues that come up on the road. I am sure that there is a wealth of wisdom and experience among the Myswag community.
I am in Hanoi about to jump on a plane. If you don't start one up, I will when I get back.
Keith
Steady up on the old fart talk buddy, I may have an old fart disease, but I reckon I'm still a young buck at heart LOL.
I've actually been thinking about starting my own web page asking for people's experience with statins to see and hear from other's experiencing similar problems to mine.
I'm a programmer/business analyst by profession with 3 dotnet certifications, so should be able to knock something up I reckon.
I'd like to learn more about cardiovascular disease, statins and their relationship with PD. There is more information out there than I haven't found so far, but the research is being muddied by all of the noise generated by the big drug companies in search engines in my opinion.
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http://media.theage.com.au/featured/robin-williams-mourned-by-koko-5679932.html (http://media.theage.com.au/featured/robin-williams-mourned-by-koko-5679932.html)
This would have been such an AWESOME experience.. I'd love the opportunity to do something like this..
Yet when you have a look into his eyes, there is a sadness at different points, but you can also see his joy at what he was experiencing. :'(
Foo
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Marschy,
It is apparent that we are in clear need of a Myswag old farts health string, where we can talk about health and medication and maybe swap experiences, ideas and success stories. Particularly health issues that come up on the road. I am sure that there is a wealth of wisdom and experience among the Myswag community.
I am in Hanoi about to jump on a plane. If you don't start one up, I will when I get back.
Keith
A Myswag "Mens Shed" section may be.
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I've had a heart attack, diagnosed with Parkinsons and depression all in the last 5 years. Don't want to top myself though. Depression is a common problem with males who have had heart attacks apparently.
The big thing with depression, in my book, is fessing up to yourself that you have a problem and getting something done about it.
The Parkinson's Association of SA helped me here. They simply said to me, "You have Parkinson's so you take Sinemet dopamine therapy to help control it. You've also had a heart attack. If your not suffering from depression, you are freakin' superman. So why do you think that a bit of serotonin therapy wouldn't help for depression where dopamine therapy does help for Parkinson's?". It was very practical advise.
My issue was that I am taking so much medication for managing my heart condition and Parkinsons, and the problems I have had with my medication, that when you get asked if you want to take more drugs to control your depression you are very reluctant. The thought of taking more medication for controlling depression is in itself depressing.
Ironic, you bet. But once you get some help, things can and do start to turn around.
Depression yes.
Manic Depression with chronic anxiety - not always.
If your receptors are damaged, no amount of wishful thinking or chatting will join them up again.
My loved one has tried every known treatment. I mean every known treatment. One drug keeps them stable for much of the time. Though the Dr's warn that eventually that too may not work real well. Cross that bridge one day I expect.
All the best to all.
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Yes your are correct. I cannot and will not comment on manic depression as I don't suffer from this. But the advise is still sound. Get help
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Depression yes.
Manic Depression with chronic anxiety - not always.
If your receptors are damaged, no amount of wishful thinking or chatting will join them up again.
My loved one has tried every known treatment. I mean every known treatment. One drug keeps them stable for much of the time. Though the Dr's warn that eventually that too may not work real well. Cross that bridge one day I expect.
All the best to all.
:'(
Foo
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People underestimate the "totality" of the whole personal health package. Poor health in one domain leads to poor health in another.
Major surgery, any sort, can lead to prolonged mental health issues. Just getting over the full effect of a full general anethstesia can take 12 months. Then because you are in recovery mode, physical fitness declines. You're then on a downward spiral!
I've had mates who have had major problems after surgery, depression, bi polar onset, weight gain, the works. 12 months later, when they came out of the initial drug induced torpor, they asked, "I did what"? How did you put up with me? All I said, was you're a mate, so I put up with it.
Unfortunately, many GP's don't work on the total package, they concentrate on what their area of knowledge is.
I'm by no means saying ignore your GP, but there are other wholistic options out there. In my case, my best freind was my chiropractor, who at least got my skeletal frame back into a reasonable condition so I could at least exercise a bit and keep the weight down. Being able to walk and exercise helps me keep other chronic disease factors at bay.
I'm not saying go out and look at mystical practitioners, or witch doctors, but at least have a talk to your GP about what allied health professionals may help.
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People underestimate the "totality" of the whole personal health package. Poor health in one domain leads to poor health in another.
Major surgery, any sort, can lead to prolonged mental health issues. Just getting over the full effect of a full general anethstesia can take 12 months. Then because you are in recovery mode, physical fitness declines. You're then on a downward spiral!
I've had mates who have had major problems after surgery, depression, bi polar onset, weight gain, the works. 12 months later, when they came out of the initial drug induced torpor, they asked, "I did what"? How did you put up with me? All I said, was you're a mate, so I put up with it.
Unfortunately, many GP's don't work on the total package, they concentrate on what their area of knowledge is.
I'm by no means saying ignore your GP, but there are other wholistic options out there. In my case, my best freind was my chiropractor, who at least got my skeletal frame back into a reasonable condition so I could at least exercise a bit and keep the weight down. Being able to walk and exercise helps me keep other chronic disease factors at bay.
I'm not saying go out and look at mystical practitioners, or witch doctors, but at least have a talk to your GP about what allied health professionals may help.
Hi Mace,
So true. Even with a simply knee replacement I just had it is interesting to see just how these things can effect you. I know my knee is a big opp in it's self but no where as bad as others with other diseases.
What I did wrong was setting to many goals for getting to this stage I'm at now and while I am doing very well as far as healing goes I still feel I let myself down by not doing it within what I thought I could,l which of course is rubbish.
For me it was as simple as thinking gawd, I'm taking so many pain killers I must be turning into a druggie - how pathetic was that. I have a right to hurt for 4 weeks after a Total Knee Replacement and going to work for one day last week put me back almost a week.
So with all that I had a bad last week and punished the family for that, not in a big way but by being short.
Strange business that brain of ours......
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This morning on the news there was footage of somewhere in Africa with the Ebola outbreak. There was a young girl, maybe 10yrs old, sitting on a wooden bed in a concrete room with blood around her feet.
Three blokes in white coveralls with hazmat were spraying the room, the bed and her with something from a spray pack.
Very sad.
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This morning on the news there was footage of somewhere in Africa with the Ebola outbreak. There was a young girl, maybe 10yrs old, sitting on a wooden bed in a concrete room with blood around her feet.
Three blokes in white coveralls with hazmat were spraying the room, the bed and her with something from a spray pack.
Very sad.
That Shit is heartbreaking ... and that Shit is very deadly, hope it doesn't spread round the world.
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This is scarey sh1t
Sent from my cheap piece of crap
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That **** is heartbreaking ... and that **** is very deadly, hope it doesn't spread round the world.
One family early on raided the hospital and took there loved one(s) home. Then they sent a Spanish priest home for treatment ( he has since died ) and they also sent an aid worker home to America for treatment. Pretty easy way for it to potentially spread by accident. I thought I read that a drug company had been given the go ahead to test an unproven drug ( unproven by normal protocols ).
The conspiracy theorists could say that while it is in West Africa , the world doesn't really care but once it gets out in the world there could be big dollars to be made by drug companies.
If it is such a deadly disease why would you not contain it to the area and have the medical attention taken to them ?
Raider
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It's taken them a month to put a containment area in place, which is a bit of an issue in itself. Unfortunately the new drugs are only available in minimal quantities, tens of doses, not thousands, and unproven on humans yet (on the BBC worldwide service last nite).
Yep, it's scary stuff. Initially transferred to humans by eating of bush meats I believe (fruit bats).
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Sorry to move this around abit but...
When I was diagnosed with Bipolar type two I was placed on some drugs and also sent to a shrink. The problem with the drugs is the body gets use to them then they don't do the job so well. I was on a number of things but now - with GP guidence of course - I take only one pill a day and its a low dose.
I've changed my lifestyle, work, diet and heaps of other things to help myself, but the biggest thing that has helped me is family and friends that support me. I've also made some new friends through different groups.
Years ago and even now there is a stigma of mental health but even seeing here on MYSWAG others with same as myself or other mental conditions shows that we aren't alone and no one is alone.
Oh I also agree with a past post about a MENS SHED section.
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The biggest hurdle for me with depression was simply admitting to myself that I have a mental health issue. It's not easy.
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Should any Swaggers start to look out at the dark side . PLEASE think about those you will leave behind to sort out the mess . you don't really want to burden them with this . Your out of it all , you leave them to pick up the reality of what has been done .
Reach out for somebody to talk to , help is not that war away .
& it really worth the call
Sunrise tomorrow is well worth being there to watch , join me doing this :cheers:
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^^^^^^
And a good place to start is around a campfire somewhere. Just think of every camping opportunity as another chance to de stress with good mates.
:cheers:
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Name the place l feel the need for Therapy & :cheers:
though l am self administrating my own prescription right about now . ;D :cheers:
Things Can Only Get Better ;) ;)
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The biggest hurdle for me with depression was simply admitting to myself that I have a mental health issue. It's not easy.
agree..
still hard to admit once professionals tell you - its not something you want to hear. but once you do its a good start on the hard road.
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Should any Swaggers start to look out at the dark side . PLEASE think about those you will leave behind to sort out the mess . you don't really want to burden them with this . Your out of it all , you leave them to pick up the reality of what has been done .
Reach out for somebody to talk to , help is not that war away .
& it really worth the call
Sunrise tomorrow is well worth being there to watch , join me doing this :cheers:
Hi Speewa, an article in The Age today has a slightly different angle-
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/depression-a-personal-struggle-that-can-be-healed-20140814-103r4t.html (http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/depression-a-personal-struggle-that-can-be-healed-20140814-103r4t.html)
More specifically the part "I used to think suicide was a cowardly act. A gutless cop-out committed by a person not willing to deal with whatever temporary problem was causing concern" - then goes on to talk in more detail.
Its a huge deal for someone to take their own life and must come at the end of a long dark road. While its those left behind who pick up the pieces, I can't be critical of those that do it. How to get effective help is the hard part and include all those around you.
TC
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This makes a lot more sense to me.
News.com.au: Robin Williams: actor Rob Schneider says Parkinson’s disease drugs led to star’s suicide (http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/robin-williams-actor-rob-schneider-says-parkinsons-disease-drugs-led-to-stars-suicide/story-fn907478-1227027345278)
Speaking from personal experience, coronary heart disease medication is more likely to make you feel suicidal more so than Parkinson's medication. Beta blockers that regulate the heart beat make you feel like a zombie.
I can't speak for Robin Williams in regard what medication's he was taking and his other issues with alcohol, but beta blockers are a depressant, so is alcohol. The combination of both would or could be disastrous.
But more to the point, this is not what Rob Schneider is saying. He is saying the 'combination' of medication led to Robin's suicide, not simply the Parkinson's medication.
Either way the drug companies will run and duck for cover.
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Getting tired of the BS being spread by news corp.
Latest is that Robin Williams friend who owns a bike shop said that Robin indicated that he was scared his Parkinson's diagnosis made him fear that he would be unable to continue his bicycle riding which would lead him back to his addictions.
What a crock of BS. Cycling is actually recommended for people with this condition.
It would appear as though comments only get posted on the news web site now if you are paid up subscriber, pity, people like me would like to make comment contrary to the head line grabbing BS they continually circulate.