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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Reddirtroaming on August 12, 2014, 09:04:52 AM
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So what sort of camper are you? Considerate of other campers around you or not?
We seem to attract a lot of inconsiderate neighbours lately as we are making our way around WA.
A couple of examples
- at the Bungle Bungles, 2 families with 5 kids camped on top of us. As soon as they got out of the car the chaos started. Music pumping from the car & just really really loud. The kids had to go to bed with music played through speakers & not earphones. They stayed for 3 nights & it really took away from our camping experience. On the night they left we could actually hear other campers going about their nightly routines & realised that the normal campsite noise had been drowned out by the family beside us, they were so loud.
- at a rest stop, kids doing music lessons until 9.30pm at night on their violin, guitar & keyboard.
- near halls creek, we actually left a campsite due to our new neighbours & before we had even packed up fully they had lit a fire in the middle of our camp site.
These are just the most recent 3 examples, in 5 months of travelling we have had many many more.
Personally we try to keep our campsite pretty quiet & are very considerate of other campers. We are no angels by any means, but I think anyone camped near us shouldn't have any problems with us.
So what's the deal, are you considerate of others or is it your holiday so therefore you can do, what you want???
Does anyone actually consider other campers at all anymore or are we all too self centred now days??
For a lot of our camping neighbours lately there seems to be no common courtesy.
Of course there are many that have been great & we have met some lovely people, but the bad ones are outweighing the good at the moment.
Opinions??
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...before we had even packed up fully they had lit a fire in the middle of our camp site.
I would have put it out...
Yep, the bush is getting more and more full of deadShits as time goes on, and remoteness seems harder to find.
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Have you got kids with you ?
It does make a lot of difference, as I have occasionally been in the same boat as you, but being oldish with no kids anymore, what seems like normal family "noise" to some is very annoying to others.
And the fact that common courtesy and respect doesn't seem to be taught to kids nowadays makes it even worse..
When I roll into a campground and find there's not a lot of free space, the 1st thing I look for is families.....I like the fact they are camping and having a good time, but I'll camp away from them so I can have some peace and quiet.....nothing worse than hearing the missus winge cause she got woken up by kids playing at 7am.. :'(
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Have you got kids with you ?
It does make a lot of difference, as I have occasionally been in the same boat as you, but being oldish with no kids anymore, what seems like normal family "noise" to some is very annoying to others.
And the fact that common courtesy and respect doesn't seem to be taught to kids nowadays makes it even worse..
When I roll into a campground and find there's not a lot of free space, the 1st thing I look for is families.....I like the fact they are camping and having a good time, but I'll camp away from them so I can have some peace and quiet.....nothing worse than hearing the missus winge cause she got woken up by kids playing at 7am.. :'(
As campers with younger kids I completely understand where you are coming from. Our kids as a rule are out like a light by 7.30 - 8pm at the latest most nights but up by 5-30 - 6 most mornings.
We have tried to instill in them to be quiet and be mindful of others. Makes it difficult though when the ask why is ok for others to disturb us at night with loud talking etc around a campfire.
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Considerate camper, I would say that compared to most we are and we have a younger kid, As to some others, definitely not ...
Worst ever camp experience was on Fraser Island with 15 troopy cruiser loads = 150 of drugged drunken backpackers setting down camp just on dark one evening no more than 50 odd meters away from us.... p*ssin sh*tten pukin all over the place right in front of our camp, playin cowboys and indians yelling and screaming , running through in and around us till just on daybreak ..
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So what sort of camper are you? Considerate of other campers around you or not?
Opinions??
The age of entitlement is unfortunately the norm now. With this entitlement comes little obligation. We have done 17,000Ks over the last six months and have encountered the same selfish behaviour all too often. We have experienced the macho 'look at my tough rig' turn up, occupants hit the piss within minutes, and it is downhill from there.
Nomads are also bad offenders in my opinion, because they should know better. The good thing about them however is they cannot get into some of the more 'difficult' areas due the size of their rigs.
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I like to think we are considerate campers.
We have two boys, 12 and 8 and I try to remind them to have consideration for others.
They are pretty good, I must admit, but they aren't 'littlies' anymore either.
I cringe when others start to get too loud or are on it for too long, cos I fear I might lose it! >:D
The whole reason for getting away is to relax, I can't understand why people would want to get rowdy???
I must be getting old... :-[
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The whole point of camping is to get out there and enjoy a bit of this awesome country, in peace. We are pretty quiet campers, and will usually camp as far away from others as possible
I know a lot of people love caravan parks because of their ammenities, but I'd rather have a setup that allows you to comfortable camp away from the crowds
Aaron
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No kids for us yet.
I am all for kids being out in the bush playing & I get noise is a part of that.
What annoys me is when the parents send the kids off to "play" around the campsite to give themselves some peace, but then the rest of us have to put up with them.
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I would have put it out...
Yep, the bush is getting more and more full of dead****s as time goes on, and remoteness seems harder to find.
We asked them to stop lighting it. Check out our blog for the whole story around the fire thing. Was interesting that's for sure.
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Yep, completely with you on that one.
Can remember one particular occasion at Hungry Gate in the Hat Head National Park. A great big large open grassy site. We were in a quiet little corner, a fair way from the drop toilets, and there was plenty of room around the place. Two car loads come in with one dodgy old caravan and proceed to set up literally on top of us. Couldn't believe it. Interesting too that when the ranger come through in the morning to check everyone had paid, turns out they hadn't and proceeded to lie about how long they were staying.
Really frustrating!
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Friends of us had something similar.
Their neighbour started the music and kept going until way after midnight.
Our friends woke up early the next morning after a broken sleep, took his chainsaw and started cutting wood next to the neighbour....
For some reason the neighbour wasn't happy.
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Sad to hear your tales of woe.
We moved house about 8 years ago because of noise, and a single bloody incredibly stupid, arrogant, mongrel (and rich ... ) neighbour!
Where we live now, at around 2300H I can hear the kitchen clock ticking (it's electric) from about 20 feet away - and my hearing at 65+ isn't what it was at 20+ ... ;) .
Not all that much noisier in the middle of the day.
Love it ...
I agree that many aspects of society have changed, and many not for the better.
Treating others with dignity, courtesy and respect seems to have disappeared off the school curriculum, and that of parents as well.
I was a Neighbourhood Watch zone leader for over 20 years, and the primary school teachers' common room where we held our meetings had all sorts of stuff about "rights" pinned to boards all around the room, but absolutely nothing about "duty". How can one have a right in the absence of a correlative duty? Or vice versa?
The 'gimmee' society? It's here, I fear. Sad.
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On a scale of 1 to 10 the discomfort you speak of would be a 3.
Did you ask them to turn the music down? That seems to be the only unreasonable act. The rest is living with other people in a public place.
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noise cancelling headphones are worth their weight in gold!!!!
Swannie
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I can tell from the replies on this topic which myswaggers I would like to camp near & those I would not. ;D
Ha ha
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Considerate camper, I would say that compared to most we are and we have a younger kid, As to some others, definitely not ...
Worst ever camp experience was on Fraser Island with 15 troopy cruiser loads = 150 of drugged drunken backpackers setting down camp just on dark one evening no more than 50 odd meters away from us.... p*ssin sh*tten pukin all over the place right in front of our camp, playin cowboys and indians yelling and screaming , running through in and around us till just on daybreak ..
I would have made sure they had no sleep in.
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Gidday Shelby
I would have made sure they had no sleep in.
Isn't that what chainsaws were invented for?
On one occasion, I didn't have a chain saw handy, but I found that driving up and down and around the offenders' camp site at around 0630H had a salutary effect on their well-being (and mine ... )
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I always try to keep my two girls quite in the mornings and regularly apologise to other campers as one of our girls take after the mother in law - has no idea in keeping her trap shut, did I say that out loud? >:D >:D
I do also hate when you are set up and someone has to camp right next to you and there is fifty acres to camp in and no one else about.
Jason
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Nothing better then the sound of children laughing and playing in the early hours while camping shows they are having a good time and makes me smile. i am usually up early and just like a big kid myself . alot better then them sitting in the lounge playing with the xbox
now that annoys me
cheers
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just had a quick read of your blog about the locals at Palm Springs you should have stayed there the extra night it would have been an interesting night sitting around the camp fire listening to their stories - I used to go out there quite often with the locals and some tribal people 20+ years ago when I lived out that way,sure they get absolutely tanked but never a problem and where great quiet nights around the fire.
As far as are we considerate campers I think most of the noise from our site is my wife yelling at the kids to keep quiet, but generally we dont have to many problems with inconsiderate campers around us.
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I do also hate when you are set up and someone has to camp right next to you and there is fifty acres to camp in and no one else about.
Jason
Yes that I can't understand why people need to do that. We go away and camp generally for peace and quite and to be away from others as much as possible. If I wanted to camp on top of people I'd just go to van parks.
:cheers:
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I try not to submit other campers to what I don't like to hear. No loud music, keep it to yourself or go to a club. No generators, if it's powered and can't be run off a battery leave it at home (an hour or so once a day is tolerable). My kids do have fun, but try to remind them to be quiet before breakfast and they are in bed earlyish anyway. You shouldn't be up all night when camping, go to bed early enough to rise with the sun.
Probably sound like a grumpy old man there :-[
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I find walking around in just my jocks ensures that no one camps anywhere near me..
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^ Do you wear jocks?
I haven't worn clothes to bed for most of my adult life ... :laugh: .
Imagine a SOFA member wandering off to the dunny wearing my "camp slippers" - steel capped work boots ...
I guess I'll have to remember to pack some PJ bottoms, at least, and/or a dressing gown ... That's if I don't want to get arrested, or worse ... :'( ;D 8) .
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I find walking around in just my jocks ensures that no one camps anywhere near me..
this and country music. :cup: Always wonder why its always quiet where we go :cheers:
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Yes that I can't understand why people need to do that. We go away and camp generally for peace and quite and to be away from others as much as possible..
agree..
. No loud music, keep it to yourself or go to a club
Disagree....
When me and the boys go away, we go where nobody is - usually a small clearing just enough for us, and nowhere near others, and fire up the tunes - if some arsehat decides to camp there that's their problem.. They have had ample warning that there will be tunes going - and the stack of firewood should also be a clue that we wont be going to bed at 8pm.
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We camped at a little lake one weekend not long back. Was a beautiful peaceful place. Only a couple of campers and one caravan. We were all spaced around the lake giving each other plenty of private space. I was in heaven.
Next day 2 guys and a couple of young kids (about 6/7 of age) turned up and stuck there tent right next to our camp. At first I was a bit pissed as they had the whole lake to camp around. Anyway while setting up one of the boys started scream at his brother and then his dad at the top of his voice. OK family dispute, I have kids too. BUT this continued all night and most of the next day. At one point they went for a walk around the lake and we could still he him crying and scream from the other side. Even my kids were getting pissed off with it! My partner walked past and saw his dad sitting on him while he was screaming,
I can't breath,
I can't breath,
I can't breath,
I can't breath,
I can't breath, etc" WTF !!
Was glad to see them pack up and go that night.
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! My partner walked past and saw his dad sitting on him while he was screaming,
I can't breath,
I can't breath,
I can't breath,
I can't breath,
I can't breath, etc" WTF !!
Was glad to see them pack up and go that night.
I don't blame him......imagine a kid screaming for 2 days ... :-[
But really, there must have been a problem with the kid ( mentally ), but why would you take it camping ??
20 yrs ago, I took my 2 kids ( B&G) around Australia for 8 weeks, no DVD's, phones etc in those days, and they played together, had fun etc, and the only time I had to smack either of them ( yep, we used to do that "stuff" back then !! ) was when we pulled into our driveway when we got home...
My kids were no angels, but they knew how to behave, and they made friends in nearly every campground or van park we stopped at...
But nowadays, it seems like it's too much trouble to be nice to fellow campers....and maybe because people fear they won't be nice back..
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But really, there must have been a problem with the kid ( mentally ), but why would you take it camping ??
Are you stupid, pissed or both?
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Are you stupid, pissed or both?
I think he probably meant IT as in the problem , not IT as in the kid.
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I'd put $100 on there being something not right with the kid. I can see why his wife didn't come ;D
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Are you stupid, pissed or both?
Quite sober thanks !!
Now, don't get all uppety cause I made the mistake of calling a human being an it !!
And how do you know it wasn't an IT..
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Never had much of a problem with kids, they are usually asleep at a reasonable hour but drunks are a different story. It seems the drunker they get the louder they get.
My theory is that either the grog affects their hearing or as they drink more they start to think what they are saying makes sense and they want the world to know. Women are the worst, especially young women.
It is hard to talk rationally to someone that is off their face, a 5am start the next day is the way to go.
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I see it as if you are camping, it's easy to move.
Camping with the family, it's a family environment.
Camping with mates, it's a let loose, relax, blow off steam.
Two sides of a coin and your way of camping may not be someone else's way of camping. Bush is everyone's right and if you want rules and want to be told what to do....Caravan park. Not making any comment either way.
There you are camping, just the family and group of 20 turn up as they are doing a 3 week group gathering. 20 people make a lot of noise even being normal people. Sitting around talking about the days adventure. Who is in the right, the 1 family camping or the group of normal people. The site may have been big but adding 20 made it a little smaller?
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I try not to submit other campers to what I don't like to hear. No loud music, keep it to yourself or go to a club. No generators, if it's powered and can't be run off a battery leave it at home (an hour or so once a day is tolerable). My kids do have fun, but try to remind them to be quiet before breakfast and they are in bed earlyish anyway. You shouldn't be up all night when camping, go to bed early enough to rise with the sun.
Probably sound like a grumpy old man there :-[
Yeah, you do. This sort of attitude is why I no longer go to caravan parks. Full of old people who want to go to bed at 9 and get up at sparrows fart. I work hard and earn my breaks, who are you to tell me when I should be in bed? I like to sit a around a fire and have a few wines and listen to music at a reasonable volume with my camp friends. Stick with caravan parks, you will fit right in.
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Yeah, you do. This sort of attitude is why I no longer go to caravan parks. Full of old people who want to go to bed at 9 and get up at sparrows fart. I work hard and earn my breaks, who are you to tell me when I should be in bed? I like to sit a around a fire and have a few wines and listen to music at a reasonable volume with my camp friends. Stick with caravan parks, you will fit right in.
I,m with him
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Yeah, you do. This sort of attitude is why I no longer go to caravan parks. Full of old people who want to go to bed at 9 and get up at sparrows fart. I work hard and earn my breaks, who are you to tell me when I should be in bed? I like to sit a around a fire and have a few wines and listen to music at a reasonable volume with my camp friends. Stick with caravan parks, you will fit right in.
yea, agree... although this isn't all caravan parks..
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This thread is reminding me why i seem to spend more time camped out of my boat and less in the camper..
Jet ;D ;D
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This thread is reminding me why i seem to spend more time camped out of my boat and less in the camper..
Jet ;D ;D
Good call, was thinking the same thing .
Cheers
Disco teddy
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Couldn't stand caravan parks when we did our trip through central QLD. Full of grey nomads who all were in sore need of hearing aids so they knew how much freaking noise they were making. Could hear them from the other side of the park just having a conversation, and it was still mostly "What? I can't hear you. Speak louder" or various repetitions of misheard words.
Didn't really effect my sleep, having lived in a boarding house with 30 other boys for school (honestly it was MUCH quieter than the caravan parks, mostly because we all knew and respected each other) and put up with my family (chainsaws got nothing on my father's snoring) I can sleep through anything once I get to sleep. Just annoyed the hell out of me when I was awake.
Note: Knew and respected = Knew that if you were a wanker you'd find yourself in the deep end of the pool in the middle of winter in the early hours of the morning and you respected that fact...
As for my noise levels, if I was in camp (instead of doing something) I'd be reading a book, on my laptop with headphones on and running off powered sites or batteries. When we go away from power we run the generator until the last person goes to bed, I've never been able to convince them that 12V lighting could replace the AC fluros and it would be silent :(
If anyone else is bothered by it I've never seen them, that is I've never seen another camp site within a few km's of where we are, so I doubt we'd bother them even if we brought a set of speakers made for a stadium and blasted Skrillex out of them.
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Yeah, you do. This sort of attitude is why I no longer go to caravan parks. Full of old people who want to go to bed at 9 and get up at sparrows fart. I work hard and earn my breaks, who are you to tell me when I should be in bed? I like to sit a around a fire and have a few wines and listen to music at a reasonable volume with my camp friends. Stick with caravan parks, you will fit right in.
I don't want to go to bed at 9 but my kids like to sleep and they get up with the sun. I don't care if you enjoy yourself into the night, but have some consideration of others ie keep the noise reasonable through the night so others cursed with the dawn kiddies can get SOME sleep. Listening to music at a easy able volume is fine, but don't share it with the whole world after a reasonable bedtime.
I'll try to keep the kids quiet as consideration of neighbours early in the morning but that'll go out the window if yo haven't been considerate the night before.
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The whole point of camping is to get out there and enjoy a bit of this awesome country, in peace. We are pretty quiet campers, and will usually camp as far away from others as possible
I know a lot of people love caravan parks because of their ammenities, but I'd rather have a setup that allows you to comfortable camp away from the crowds
Aaron
Same here...
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This thread is reminding me why i seem to spend more time camped out of my boat and less in the camper..
Jet ;D ;D
Touché mate. If I had a boat lol.. But I understand what you are saying :cup:
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Ok, thought I would chime in. Personally I think the status quo applies so when you turn up you accept the campsite the way it is and conform, or, move on. By this I mean:
If you turn up and the boys have marked their campsite by building a pyramid out of Bundy Premix cans then break out the beer bong and join in, or, move on!
If you turn up and the bikkie dippers are enjoying their cup of earl grey at sunset then it's time to gag the kids and throw some scones in the camp oven, or, just move on!
If you turn up and you see my 6 and 8 year old boys and you expect they aren't going to play and make noise during the day or heaven forbid get too close to your campsite then move on!!
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This thread is reminding me why i seem to spend more time camped out of my boat and less in the camper..
Jet ;D ;D
I don't know about that Jet, I reckon a lone boat enjoying the peace and quiet is like a magnet for bloody hire houseboats full of party goers who don't know how to anchor their block of flats!
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Ok, thought I would chime in. Personally I think the status quo applies so when you turn up you accept the campsite the way it is and conform, or, move on. By this I mean:
If you turn up and the boys have marked their campsite by building a pyramid out of Bundy Premix cans then break out the beer bong and join in, or, move on!
If you turn up and the bikkie dippers are enjoying their cup of earl grey at sunset then it's time to gag the kids and throw some scones in the camp oven, or, just move on!
If you turn up and you see my 6 and 8 year old boys and you expect they aren't going to play and make noise during the day or heaven forbid get too close to your campsite then move on!!
Yep agree with that. When we pull into a spot, we will find a place as far away from anyone as possible or will move on.
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I see it as if you are camping, it's easy to move.
Camping with the family, it's a family environment.
Camping with mates, it's a let loose, relax, blow off steam.
Two sides of a coin and your way of camping may not be someone else's way of camping. Bush is everyone's right and if you want rules and want to be told what to do....Caravan park. Not making any comment either way.
There you are camping, just the family and group of 20 turn up as they are doing a 3 week group gathering. 20 people make a lot of noise even being normal people. Sitting around talking about the days adventure. Who is in the right, the 1 family camping or the group of normal people. The site may have been big but adding 20 made it a little smaller?
You're not suggesting I pack up my family and my camp and move because you and your mates turned up and decided "....Dis place look alright" are you?
We've all got to be tolerant and share but if you were there first then later arrivals should respect the type of camp that's already there. Same as if I turned up with my family and you and your mates were there first I wouldn't be setting up there - and if I did I certainly wouldn't then be complaining about the noise.
I'm all for letting loose and blowing off steam but I just ask that you pick a spot that suits. If I'm out on my own I'll probably stay and join in if you didn't mind.
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You're not suggesting I pack up my family and my camp and move because you and your mates turned up and decided "....Dis place look alright" are you?
We've all got to be tolerant and share but if you were there first then later arrivals should respect the type of camp that's already there. Same as if I turned up with my family and you and your mates were there first I wouldn't be setting up there - and if I did I certainly wouldn't then be complaining about the noise.
I'm all for letting loose and blowing off steam but I just ask that you pick a spot that suits. If I'm out on my own I'll probably stay and join in if you didn't mind.
Nope, I've always picked empty spots to camp and make it clear what this camping trip is about, if it's a piss up or family.
The group I was suggesting could well be a group off a forum (any forum) that were doing a trip. Couldn't see people sitting around drinking tea or throwing an all weekend rave, just normal people enjoying the bush.
No matter what it is, I do hate the people who camp right on top of you. I do believe in camping personal space.
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Ok, thought I would chime in. Personally I think the status quo applies so when you turn up you accept the campsite the way it is and conform, or, move on. By this I mean:
If you turn up and the boys have marked their campsite by building a pyramid out of Bundy Premix cans then break out the beer bong and join in, or, move on!
If you turn up and the bikkie dippers are enjoying their cup of earl grey at sunset then it's time to gag the kids and throw some scones in the camp oven, or, just move on!
If you turn up and you see my 6 and 8 year old boys and you expect they aren't going to play and make noise during the day or heaven forbid get too close to your campsite then move on!!
The perfect solution, NOW if we just get EVERYBODY else to adhere to it, The problem I have is when I am the person set up & the others roll in & decide to do their thing just a metre or so away from where I am camped!!!!!!!
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The perfect solution, NOW if we just get EVERYBODY else to adhere to it, The problem I have is when I am the person set up & the others roll in & decide to do their thing just a metre or so away from where I am camped!!!!!!!
agreed
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The perfect solution, NOW if we just get EVERYBODY else to adhere to it, The problem I have is when I am the person set up & the others roll in & decide to do their thing just a metre or so away from where I am camped!!!!!!!
Also agreed.
To little space for camping close to major centres is the big issue these days though.
For a quick weekend getaway you don't want to be travelling 3 hours either way to find a secluded spot, so it is camping with others in a closer proximity.
To be honest I just deal with it. If I'm camping I'm not at home so that has to be a plus anyway you look at it.
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It's easy. If someone has a big night and you are family camping, you have a noise morning :D
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I shudder when a neighbouring campsite (or even if they are across the campground) decides on Karaoke as an evening activity.
Nothin worse than drunk, out of tune renditions of Locomotion or Keh Sanh sung by people who don't so much as hold a note, but strangle it.....
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It's easy. If someone has a big night and you are family camping, you have a noise morning :D
Agreed. We have 2 kiddies that love camping. We restrain them in the mornings till about 8am quite successfully. If our neighbours don't respect us and or rights for some peace after a fair time, we let the kids go ape Shit at what ever time they please. Simples
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Agreed. We have 2 kiddies that love camping. We restrain them in the mornings till about 8am quite successfully. If our neighbours don't respect us and or rights for some peace after a fair time, we let the kids go ape **** at what ever time they please. Simples 
HAhaha Love it!
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From all the advice on this thread i think next time we get inconsiderate neighbours it will be time to-
Get the chainsaw out, do some nudie runs & hijack a couple of noisy kids from somewhere & give the noisy neighbours hell ;D
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Whenever we camp whether alone or in a group. We try to camp away from others as the missus has to use a genie for about 10-15 minutes morning and late evening. I won't start it much before about 9:00am and the same in the arvo at 5:00pm.
If we are camping and nobody around us. Then whenever someone does camp near us then I always warn them about the genie before they setup. I would say 90% of people don't care as they have been warned but those who whinge then at least I have warned them and I only ever do it with the parks guidelines.
I have lost count over the years how many times I have got up during the night to let other campers there making too much noise. Once again most people are considerate. Those who aren't then I used to start the old 4.2 GQ with a 3inch straight through pipe at 8:00 and let it idle for a while. Funning enough we never had any issues with those campers again
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Just coming back from a trip to the Cape with a small group and what we found a bit annoying with people in our group was their inability to just have nothing electronic going. ... Just quiet and conversation. On the end it was good to finally be on our own again.
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Grey Nomads I have found are the worst, well maybe not the worst just more of them, so bound to meet some that push my buttons. Had to stay at Barn Hill just south of Broome several weeks ago after a long tiring drive from the Gibb, if you don't know the place its chockers with Caravans and gray nomads. We had just set up the camper,cooked dinner and the one Led light on/ which is very bright to eat dinner. Old mate in his caravan steps out walks around the back of his van to fill up his bucket from the tap and proceeds to announce that we should angle our light so that when he wanted to step out the back of his van the light wouldn't dazzle him! "Are you serious mate"I replied, " how about I use this Led light to do a colon examination!"
Grey Nomads Nil, Mike 1
Thats why I normally bush camp.
:cheers: Mike
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Just coming back from a trip to the Cape with a small group and what we found a bit annoying with people in our group was their inability to just have nothing electronic going. ... Just quiet and conversation. On the end it was good to finally be on our own again.
I agree. It's why I prefer to travel solo ... 8) .
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Grey Nomads I have found are the worst, well maybe not the worst just more of them, so bound to meet some that push my buttons. Had to stay at Barn Hill just south of Broome several weeks ago after a long tiring drive from the Gibb, if you don't know the place its chockers with Caravans and gray nomads. We had just set up the camper,cooked dinner and the one Led light on/ which is very bright to eat dinner. Old mate in his caravan steps out walks around the back of his van to fill up his bucket from the tap and proceeds to announce that we should angle our light so that when he wanted to step out the back of his van the light wouldn't dazzle him! "Are you serious mate"I replied, " how about I use this Led light to do a colon examination!"
Grey Nomads Nil, Mike 1
Thats why I normally bush camp.
:cheers: Mike
I can assure you that inconsiderate people are not confined to any particular age group ...
BTW, I'd love to be a grey nomad, except that I haven't got all that much hair left ... ;) ;D .
(http://canopuscomputing.com.au/gallery2/d/17177-2/2014-08-23_15_00_S4_IMG_20140823_150036.jpg)
;D :laugh: :cheers: .
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Looks like that peg took a bit of getting in ratbag :)
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Yeah, Justin.
Those square, concrete ones take some belting into the ground!
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From my Batphone
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Went camping out to Darlington Park on the weekend and noticed 5 big scorch marks all in a row on the ground from the firepits. You would think people would be responsible enough to just use one firepit wouldn't you ???
Some people are so irressponsible. I certainly hope however it was stood around monitoring the fires so they didn't get out of control ;D ;D ;D