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Title: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: Black Diamond on July 17, 2014, 10:54:06 PM
WTF is goin on?? First they introduce new camping fee's now a 25m wide black top road from MT Stirling to MT Buller. Surely this won't get passed through what a ****en joke  ???

Why don't we all just sell our 4WD's now and buy Jeeps or something so we can fat arm it down Lygon st  >:(

http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/5m-road-beginning-of-end-for-mount-stirling-20140716-ztqnc.html (http://m.theage.com.au/victoria/5m-road-beginning-of-end-for-mount-stirling-20140716-ztqnc.html)
Title: Re: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: D4D on July 18, 2014, 08:43:02 AM
Hard to see that getting up.
Title: Re: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: Mace on July 18, 2014, 08:51:45 AM
The opening of the Howqua Gap Track from the Stirling circuit road  to Cornhill for winter use was originally on the Mt Buller/Stirling Development plan in the early 1980s so this isnt a new idea, its been around since before then.

The concept was to provide safe alternative access to Buller in the case of emergency, there have been several times during which the main access route to Buller has been closed by rock slide,  keeping all residents and guests on the mountain for days - not a very safe situation.

This will get up in some form or another this time.
Title: Re: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: Swannie on July 18, 2014, 09:08:39 AM
Great will now be able to laps up there in the Torrie instead of Lygon st  >:D

Swannie
Title: Re: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: gregw56 on July 18, 2014, 10:59:00 AM
yep this will only be the start. once vcat get involved it's as good as done
Title: Re: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: Bird on July 18, 2014, 11:00:28 AM
Quote from: gregw56
yep this will only be the start. once vcat get involved it's as good as done
no no.. even worse..
its been taken off Vcat and Guy is personally "taking control" of this..
Title: Re: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: Black Diamond on July 18, 2014, 11:04:45 AM
The opening of the Howqua Gap Track from the Stirling circuit road  to Cornhill for winter use was originally on the Mt Buller/Stirling Development plan in the early 1980s so this isnt a new idea, its been around since before then.

The concept was to provide safe alternative access to Buller in the case of emergency, there have been several times during which the main access route to Buller has been closed by rock slide,  keeping all residents and guests on the mountain for days - not a very safe situation.

This will get up in some form or another this time.
Can see where you are coming from in a safety aspect and your a lot more qualified to talk about this than most of us, but why open a new resort on Stirling? Ok make the roads safer but why waste all this money on a blacktop? Macca's is next on the list. Someone will have to pay for it and the revenue has already started with these newly introduced camping fees. There will probably be some sort of toll fee to pay on it as well. Aside from the sealed rd, severe grating and excavation of existing surrounding tracks will be a given. That's the problem for us 4WDrivers.

Great will now be able to laps up there in the Torrie instead of Lygon st  >:D

Swannie
:cup: :cup: You will be able to sit back in Macca's car park and watch the clouds to by :cheers:
Title: Re: Favourite Vic 4WDriving destination about to be turned into Lygon st
Post by: Mace on July 18, 2014, 11:31:14 AM
I think it will get up initially in the form of a 2WD standard gravel surfaced road from corn hill - (which is where the mt Buller gravel pit is now and has existing 2wd access) to the Circuit road.

My guess is that they probably won't keep the said access road over to Stirling permanently open to vehicle traffic over winter, but be satisfied with knowing it's there in case it's needed to get people off the mountain. This was always the intent years ago, even after the Mt Stirling resort development plans were abandoned.

As it will be within the Mt Buller  resort, yep you would/will pay for it via existing winter resort entry fees. I'm not aware for them to start charging these fees  over summer.

What does concern me is that  During summer it will provide a lot easier access for Numpties who have no idea to go bush, that is a worry.

This has been pushed for many years by a few locals who have strong Political connections. I don't like it either, but I think this time it will get up in some form. Where that leads to down the track ???