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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: johnyd on June 29, 2014, 10:30:22 PM
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Pretty much narrowed it down to those two, can afford the extra for the higher QC and such over the Chinese ones.
Thinking the 2kva.
Will have light duties (mostly lights and charging phones/cameras) when camping (well away from other sites on private property).
Will have heavier duties running tools around the farm. Possible Welder, drills and the like.
The Yamaha is lighter (20kg wet, vs 21kg dry), quieter (50.5dba vs 53dba minimums) and cheaper ($1614 vs $1899)*.
The Honda claims an extra 4.5 hours run time at 1/4 throttle with a smaller fuel tank.
http://powerequipment.honda.com.au/Super_Quiet/EU20i (http://powerequipment.honda.com.au/Super_Quiet/EU20i)
http://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/products/power/inverter/10-ef2000is (http://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/products/power/inverter/10-ef2000is)
* Prices the first I found, BCF has a sale that ends tomorrow at the $1614 price...
I need to check what the old dying chunker Robin we have is. Basically need to replace it, don't want to be underpowered and it runs everything we need it for.
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Real life...be amazed if the Yamaha is quieter. A Honda is, well, a Honda. Pure dependability.
I've used the 20 for weeks at a time on tour: faultless.
Carlisle
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Yeah 3dba over the distance away it will be from the camp is next to nothing really.
Had a lot of honda gear in the past and never had an issue. Honda are more expensive with more expensive parts (if something does go wrong) and Yamaha are no slouches from what I've seen around farms for old bikes still going strong. Haven't had a great deal of experience with either companies generators though.
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Johnyd I have a 2kva Yamaha for work gets used every 2 or 3 weeks even runs a 9inch grinder so long as I don't load it up,
has never let me down when I do use it I run it 8 hours straight had it 3 years now should probably get it serviced soon
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We use lots of Honda Eu 20's and find them very reliable.
An observation, I haven't seen the Yamahas in the large rental company's like Kennards and Coates (yet).
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Reading through reviews of each, and head to head, it looks as if it comes down to if I want a red one or a blue one ;) One review even using that in their comparison.
Will go around town and see which is cheapest and probably get it, since I have no real preference.
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I have the Honda and am happy with it. But if ever replaced it will be the Yamaha. Honda small engines will wear valve guides over a period of time. I believe the Yamaha's are a cut above quality again. Were are they made, both still in Japan? In South Africa where Yamaha have had a much bigger small engine presence for years they are well received, it's just here in OZ they were not as well marketed as Honda, but that has changed now. If there is a $300 difference it's case closed by the Yamaha.
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it comes down to if I want a red one or a blue one
I have the Honda, It came down to price , the Yammy would have been good to buy as well.I Think the Yamaha had a fuel gauge on it , which the honda doesn't.
Cheers Stephen
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2kva Honda delivered with a few extra bits for $1699.00. They are actually under rated and can deliver more than their stated rating.
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I have read a few threads on other forums with inverter gennies. If you look around, you can pick up a cheap Chinese one for a few hundred dollars.
Some guys say well I can buy four or five of the cheapies for the price of one Honda. I reckon by the time you buy the sixth one you would have wished you had bought the Honda. I reckon the cheapies would shake themselves to pieces sitting in the toolbox of the CT.
The other option is to but a Ryobi from the Green shed. At least their warranty is good. I like the Kipor range. Good quality units and aren't quite as expensive as the Yamaha or Honda. The main thing is the reliability, when you need it, it needs to work. I don't think you could rely on the cheapies like the Honda.
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would either of these units be able to run a fridge and chest freezer for a day or two (pending fuel-ups) if the power goes out?
anyone done this recently with either of these units?
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would either of these units be able to run a fridge and chest freezer for a day or two (pending fuel-ups) if the power goes out?
anyone done this recently with either of these units?
A 2KVA will easily run them.
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A 2KVA will easily run them.
sweet, thanks muzza...
i was going to buy jetcrew's genquip, but i was too slow... :)
story of my life.
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saw this advertised the other day...
http://www.kulkyne.com/au/Kulkyne-Inverter-Generator-KG2000is.html (http://www.kulkyne.com/au/Kulkyne-Inverter-Generator-KG2000is.html)
Around $1200 with Yamaha mechanicals and canvas cover
not affiliated etc just thought it looked all right
cheers,
Steve
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I can get the Genquip ones quite cheap if anyone is interested.
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I can get the Genquip ones quite cheap if anyone is interested.
can you elaborate on 'quite cheap'?... ;D
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Under a grand for the 2kva
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Brand new $950 for Myswag Members :cheers: 2kva Genquip
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Brand new $950 for Myswag Members :cheers: 2kva Genquip
that would be hard to go past..for the $$$ ..
Jet ;D
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that would be hard to go past..for the $$$ ..
Jet ;D
Indeed!! This price will only be until the end of July. So get in quick! Pm me or email! :cheers:
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We've just had our ten year old Honda replaced with a Yamaha at SES, both similar, I still believe the Honda was a better genie and easier to use. We always leave our equipment in the start position ready to go, however the choke on the Yamaha pulls out like a car choke, if we left it out it would get bent. The Honda just has a little lever on the side. The Honda also has an easily identifiable on off switch on the side whereas the Yamaha has a switch hidden amongst the rest of the controls. Very easier to confuse with the Eco throttle. Not big differences but just my two cents.
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The issue with some peoples thoughts on buying cheap with the reason "I can five for the price of one expensive item" is you will more than likely be in the middle of nowhere when it fails. Not much good when your fridge or whatever is spoiling your food and it is a week back to where ever you can exchange it.
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Honda without a doubt! Quieter, better, never had a problem with the ones I use. My house runs off an eu30is and you can sit next to it and use the phone.
I would only ever buy honda.
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Same with us.... Honda.
2 kva for the camper (TV, DVD, Jug, Mrs Jeepers electric blanket, battery charger)
1 kva on the boat. (It only has to run the onboard battery charger)
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Bought the Yamaha, no one local was below the RRP $1899 for the Honda need it next week so couldn't really look at the others mentioned in here in case delivery was too slow.
Yamaha was $1614.15 and I've got it in my hands now, and a store to take it back to if it doesn't work.
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only owned 1.....Honda 2kva...Luv it. :cup: :cup: :cup:
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I had a Honda for three years had no problems, but I needed to buy a new genny (Honda went with CT) so as I owned many motor bikes Honda and Yamaha and always preferred the Yamaha so a Yammy I got :D ;D
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Note the red object on the ground by side of the Ultimate - Honda Eu20. No complaints. Have operated it for over 24 hrs at a time for 24hr mountain bike race support, camping for 240v microwave and during blackouts while living in NT for fridges.
Powering a large Engel, recharging MTB light sets, camping lighting on one tank of fuel resulted in 21 hours of operation.
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2kva Honda delivered with a few extra bits for $1699.00. They are actually under rated and can deliver more than their stated rating.
Yeah not quite. You will find that these units are rated to operate at 1600 watts continuous with a maximum capacity of 2000watts.
If they are overloaded (over 1600 watts) there is a protective thermal overload device which will trip.
How do I know? Because I have one and I have overloaded it
That said the Honda eu20i that I have is a brilliant little generator and has not let me down yet. Its used for camping, work where there is no power and the backup generator for home when power goes out. It will keep the fridge running, fans, lights and basic low power devices all at once. Typical Honda small engine product. Put fuel in pull cord, starts first time every time.
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Yeah not quite. You will find that these units are rated to operate at 1600 watts continuous with a maximum capacity of 2000watts.
If they are overloaded (over 1600 watts) there is a protective thermal overload device which will trip.
How do I know? Because I have one and I have overloaded it
That said the Honda eu20i that I have is a brilliant little generator and has not let me down yet. Its used for camping, work where there is no power and the backup generator for home when power goes out. It will keep the fridge running, fans, lights and basic low power devices all at once. Typical Honda small engine product. Put fuel in pull cord, starts first time every time.
X2
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Has anyone got a yammy 2400? Was thinking of going this size?
Swannie
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Has anyone got a yammy 2400? Was thinking of going this size?
Swannie
32Kgs!!!
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32Kgs!!!
Fair point ...
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I bought a kipor 2kva from bunnings after getting the best price I could, even online. They matched and saved me a small fortune we run power tools off it at work. We use a Honda 1kva in the camper to charge the batteries if the solar doesn't keep up.
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32Kgs!!!
It is still lighter than our other generator...
It is 14kva and has a trailer of its own.
I think the old 2kva Robin the Yamaha is replacing would be at least 32kg. I seriously doubt we're going to get the same value out of the Yamaha. The Robin was bought at a garage sale for $50 14 years ago! The Yamaha still needs to be going strong in 2470 or so to represent the same value to us.
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I am traditionally a yamaha man but I own a Honda EU20i based on their tremendous reputation.
I would never knock the Yamaha and I know they make quality products but I just camped beside two blokes on the beach and both commented on my Honda and said they had wished they had bought one over their Yamaha's (I think they were 1kvas) because both had their internal "black boxes" die just out of warranty and it was a $900 fix, one of the guys said he couldn't justify fixing it.
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I have a Yammy 2kva. Never had any probes. Fuel in, pull the cord and it starts...
I think it comes down to price and colour.
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These are a great buy!
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-GenTrax-4-4kVA-Generator-PureSine-Inverter-Portable-Petrol-Silent-Camping-/271210130844?pt=AU_Hardware&hash=item3f25622d9c (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-GenTrax-4-4kVA-Generator-PureSine-Inverter-Portable-Petrol-Silent-Camping-/271210130844?pt=AU_Hardware&hash=item3f25622d9c)
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I now happen to have our Yamaha and a mate's Honda here while camping.
Setting them up about 30m apart and walking between I have to get about 2m closer to the Yamaha for it to sound louder than the Honda on their minimum settings.
Having one running and walking away the Honda noise seems to carry a good 30m further. I'd attribute this to the deeper tone of the Honda rather than volume.
Nothing I can really measure for the rest. Too lazy to time the fuel use, I'm busy fishing.
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I now happen to have our Yamaha and a mate's Honda here while camping.
Setting them up about 30m apart and walking between I have to get about 2m closer to the Yamaha for it to sound louder than the Honda on their minimum settings.
Having one running and walking away the Honda noise seems to carry a good 30m further. I'd attribute this to the deeper tone of the Honda rather than volume.
Nothing I can really measure for the rest. Too lazy to time the fuel use, I'm busy fishing.
Bull Sh*t!!!!!
Have another drink and get off the acid
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Bull Sh*t!!!!!
Have another drink and get off the acid
NURSE ! !
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NURSE ! !
No charcoal flush for me! Lol Call the nurse for the other bloke, I'm a veteran :)
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Leave my breakfast bourbons alone!
I'm sure it is all in the different tone for the perceived difference.
The deeper Honda sounds more 'satisfying' up close but it penetrates through barriers and carries further.
The Yamaha sounds a bit 'weak' up close because of the higher pitched hum.
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