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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: jetcrew on June 12, 2014, 10:41:36 AM
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Ok am planning a cold weather camp next month so temps at or below zero where we going
I am happy to run gen set for a few hrs each evening as it's just us really so fir inside the soft floor what type of heater would be best bar or fan.
I have never owned a heater before any advice appreciated ..
Big green she'd has heaps of them
Thanks jet :D
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Fan heater or electric blanket. Can get those electric blanket throw rugs also..
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We do lots of cold camps in Tassie, even in summer sometimes and use the screw on the top of a gas bottle style heaters, these seem to work nice.
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We do lots of cold camps in Tassie, even in summer sometimes and use the screw on the top of a gas bottle style heaters, these seem to work nice.
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Just not real keen on a gas heater inside the camper ..but it would be better under annex that's fir sure.
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Ok am planning a cold weather camp next month so temps at or below zero where we going
I am happy to run gen set for a few hrs each evening as it's just us really so fir inside the soft floor what type of heater would be best bar or fan.
I have never owned a heater before any advice appreciated ..
Big green she'd has heaps of them
Thanks jet :D
hey Jet, either would be fine if you have access to 240v. Alternatively we use the Gasmate butane heater in our CT for 1/2hr before bed and find it just takes the chill off the air etc. Main warning with any of them is not to leave on overnight or unattended. Having said that the electric fan heaters should have a 'tip over cutout switch' for safety purposes.
Not sure how far south you're heading but if you're coming anywhere near Wallan happy to lend you a small fan heater or my butane one to save buying one.
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If you are on power then a cheap $20 fan heater is the go. They are small & don't get too hot so they won't burn things. Get one with a thermostat & you can run it all night to keep some background warmth.
I'm not keen on any gas style heater in an enclosed space & don't leave it running over night. . . . Too many people have gone to sleep & never woken back up again due to the fumes . . . . . . . . .
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We bought a Mr Heater Buddy portable heater by Primus and would have been my wife's and daughters favourite purchase when we used it 2 weeks back at Gordon Country, one very cold wet night. About $110 at Tentworld and has a low oxygen and knock over cut out sensor. We put it in the tent for about an hour before going to bed, it was toasty warm inside.
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:cup: :cup: scraps ..but not coming down that far..very kind of you
Lara likes the look of the tabletop patio heater $99 and can be used at home ..9kg gas bottle and place under annex or inside for 10mins just as you all say to knock the cool out if air. Then turn on in morning yo coax her out of bed...under annex.
Thinking gas heater is probably better as can be used anywhere with no noise .
Only need to warm inside before bed . Not run all night ect
Jet :D
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It's not a wise move to Have a gas Heater inside a tent, ok.
Having said that.
Sit the gas bottle in a milk crate, or bucket with a wide base.
Helps with the stability factor.
240 V. Fan heater would be better. Access to 240V can be an issue.
Not a Fan of Bar Heaters, they rely on the glow. There's no air movement.
No forced mixing of warm and cold air.
Just Hot air rising by convection, from elements that are extremely HOT!!!
Can be a problem, with something dropping on them, same as gas heaters.
Electric Blankets, maybe, not a fan of them either.
NEVER sleep on a Leccy Blanket with it working, OK.
NEVER FOLD a Leccy Blanket, just roll it up.
The insulation will crack on the elements, wires, if folded a number of times between uses.
The Human body sweats when warm.
The sweat is a really good conductor of electricity.
I don't want to explain the rest, ok.
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It's not a wise move to Have a gas Heater inside a tent, ok.
Having said that.
Sit the gas bottle in a milk crate, or bucket with a wide base.
Helps with the stability factor.
240 V. Fan heater would be better. Access to 240V can be an issue.
Not a Fan of Bar Heaters, they rely on the glow. There's no air movement.
No forced mixing of warm and cold air.
Just Hot air rising by convection, from elements that are extremely HOT!!!
Can be a problem, with something dropping on them, same as gas heaters.
Electric Blankets, maybe, not a fan of them either.
NEVER sleep on a Leccy Blanket with it working, OK.
NEVER FOLD a Leccy Blanket, just roll it up.
The insulation will crack on the elements, wires, if folded a number of times between uses.
The Human body sweats when warm.
The sweat is a really good conductor of electricity.
I don't want to explain the rest, ok.
I've heard of incidents of this. Its shocking.... (someone had to do it)
We use a fan heater for the couple of cold trips where we have had 240v. its brilliant for keeping the canvas dry and keeps the inside nice and toasty. When we have had the 240v we left it going all night and made it possible to pack up dry. But I have heard good things about electric blankets as they cau be run of inverters where no power. Not much help though if you are not in bed!
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Wouldn't use a bar heater, takes time to warm up, could scorch or burn something.
We use a small fan heater one with a safety cut out if it gets covered falls over etc,
and has thermostat.
Down side is they can be noisy so low fan speed and bigger fan probably better, and some
rattle, found sitting on a table on a small piece of carpet or same on floor stops a lot of noise.
Advantage of fan heater is instant heat, we have found heated our Jayco finch in a few minutes
and that's with ice on the flys.
Cheers
Leigh
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Theo,
2 years ago we did a trip to a sub zero overnight area.
We took a little electric fan heater with a thermostat control. What we found is that it would run for a little while at the start, warm the inside right up,and then occassionally cut in and out through the night.
Didn't cost much to buy, took up very litte room, was easy to setup, and worked a treat.
It helped take the edge off the air out under the awning as well. Especially if you have the walls up. Otherwise, just place under the table.
Mark
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We bought a Mr Heater Buddy portable heater by Primus and would have been my wife's and daughters favourite purchase when we used it 2 weeks back at Gordon Country, one very cold wet night. About $110 at Tentworld and has a low oxygen and knock over cut out sensor. We put it in the tent for about an hour before going to bed, it was toasty warm inside.
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We have the same heater. Runs off those coleman screw on portable bottles. Put it in the tent 1/2 hour before bedtime and it really warms the place up nicely. Im an early riser, so i turn it on when i get up so the ladies can have a warm tent in the morning! The tip over and low oxygen cut off gives a bit of peace of mind. But as others have said, we never have it going whilst sleeping. Just takes the chill off the air before bed.
:cheers:
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If we go somewhere there is 240 we use something similar to this.Takes the chill off the air.Sit it on a ply base.
http://www.kmart.com.au/product/homemaker-5-fin-oil-heater---1000-watt/139857 (http://www.kmart.com.au/product/homemaker-5-fin-oil-heater---1000-watt/139857)
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Leccie throw rug for sure!!
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I played this game with the wide selection of little electric fan heaters from the green shed and my one kva Honda. Even the smallest watt (750 I think) one would not run on it properly. Although with a bigger (2kva) generator, I could not see why one of the little bangers wouldn't work. I would go the smallest watt fan heater as they seem to warm a camper pretty good from the kmart jobby we have used in caravan parks.
Bar heaters, and gas could be asking for trouble, and the bar heaters seem to use more power to run. I considered the oil heaters but for watts compared to heat they are big and clunky.
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Small fan heater. Compact n heats camper very quickly. There are ones that can both stand vertical n horizontal for stability.
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I played this game with the wide selection of little electric fan heaters from the green shed and my one kva Honda. Even the smallest watt (750 I think) one would not run on it properly. Although with a bigger (2kva) generator, I could not see why one of the little bangers wouldn't work. I would go the smallest watt fan heater as they seem to warm a camper pretty good from the kmart jobby we have used in caravan parks.
Bar heaters, and gas could be asking for trouble, and the bar heaters seem to use more power to run. I considered the oil heaters but for watts compared to heat they are big and clunky.
Oh this is coming together .. So I need to tell the wife I can't sell the 2kva geny because we need it to run a fan heater..
Jet :D
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Portable and versatile. In the shed or camping. The go anywhere solution, for me at least.
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If we go somewhere there is 240 we use something similar to this.Takes the chill off the air.Sit it on a ply base.
http://www.kmart.com.au/product/homemaker-5-fin-oil-heater---1000-watt/139857 (http://www.kmart.com.au/product/homemaker-5-fin-oil-heater---1000-watt/139857)
Hi,
We have a similar type of oil heater, the one change I made was to remove the 4 wheels and bolt on rubber feet to ensure it did not move about on Cub Escape Hard floor which moves a bit when we move around.
Works well when we have 240V.
We also have a Coleman ProCat Catalytic Heater http://www.coleman.com/product/5053A751# (http://www.coleman.com/product/5053A751#)
Which warms the camper up but we make sure there some windows and flaps part open to insure fresh air circulation and ALWAYS switch it OFF before we go to bed.
Ray
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We also use the finned oil heater, found that it keeps it's heat even after it's turned off, so a good solution for a generator where you use it to warm up a area and it radiates heat after the generator is turned off
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We also use the finned oil heater, found that it keeps it's heat even after it's turned off, so a good solution for a generator where you use it to warm up a area and it radiates heat after the generator is turned off
Another very good point
Thanks mate :D
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We also use the finned oil heater, found that it keeps it's heat even after it's turned off, so a good solution for a generator where you use it to warm up a area and it radiates heat after the generator is turned off
Oil heaters are relatively large to cart around.
We seem to nearly always camp in the cold. We take a fan heater if the trip will mostly have power available, or a butane one if we will be mostly be bush camping. And an electric blanket as they only draw 60w each side and take no space.
If you want to use a fan heater on a genie, check the sizing. Most are 2400 watts which needs a fair sized genie.
We mostly use the butane one in the annex with all walls up, as the greater air volume and more air gaps makes it safer. We normally go through 3/4 can per night.
Always take great care with heaters and canvas, so don't overdo the refreshments.
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Oil heaters are relatively large to cart around.
We seem to nearly always camp in the cold. We take a fan heater if the trip will mostly have power available, or a butane one if we will be mostly be bush camping. And an electric blanket as they only draw 60w each side and take no space.
If you want to use a fan heater on a genie, check the sizing. Most are 2400 watts which needs a fair sized genie.
We mostly use the butane one in the annex with all walls up, as the greater air volume and more air gaps makes it safer. We normally go through 3/4 can per night.
Always take great care with heaters and canvas, so don't overdo the refreshments.
If you have enough refreshments you don't need a heater ;D
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Hi,
our slide-on camper is way less volume to heat than a CT, and we can seal it reasonably well if we want to. (It has all the 'regulation' vents for internal gas cooking to make it difficult at least to be overcome by the dangerous combustion gas Carbon Monoxide)
In the small floor area we found a radiant heater was in the way and also keeping the heat of nearby structural parts was difficult. We had to keep moving it around, not wanting to melt the fiberglass.
We did have a portable gas radiator, but it was a similar problem with radiant heat and being in the way.
A small (750W from memory) oil column heater, as would go under a desk, sat at one end of the walkway, but did nothing to keep the place warm. Just not enough heat. A bigger one would not have fitted.
A fan heater (1000W) did a good job, and we could blow the warm air the length of the camper and get a reasonable level of warmth throughout. It was always in the way though, as it needed to be at the door end of the walkway.
I ended up putting in a diesel heater in the luggage area out of the way, drawing cool air from the camper and returning toasty warm air near our feet. It draws combustion air from out side, and returns exhaust gas out there as well.
Yes, it was a substantial $$, but it is always there, Mrs loves it, so easy to turn on - just move the dial, burns very little fuel.
A gas unit is also made, built on the same principals which may be more practical for the warmer mainland climate, and it is a little quieter not needing a fuel metering pump, and is easier on the battery as it does not need a glow-plug start.
cheers
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Also got a Coleman Catalytic gas heater and works really well in the CT. Never sleep with it on and have plenty of ventilation. Can refill the small cylinders from a barbi bottle or run direct from the barbi bottle.
Picked up a small 700w oil filled cylinder the other day to use in the CT when we have power, they tend not to dry the air as much as fan heaters and are quieter. Have not used it in the CT yet but it works great in the small bathroom at home where I have it come on a seperate timer for a couple of hours each morning.
Very compact and under 4kg. https://www.masters.com.au/product/101054059/goldair-700w-7-fin-junior-oil-column-heater-gsoc100-black (https://www.masters.com.au/product/101054059/goldair-700w-7-fin-junior-oil-column-heater-gsoc100-black)
Cheers
Mark
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Bite the bullet and go ducted heating :-)
https://www.eco-camper.com/e-shop/heaters/2KW-Portable-Air-Heater-C4EPAH-detail
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Bite the bullet and go ducted heating :-)
https://www.eco-camper.com/e-shop/heaters/2KW-Portable-Air-Heater-C4EPAH-detail (https://www.eco-camper.com/e-shop/heaters/2KW-Portable-Air-Heater-C4EPAH-detail)
Does that come with Reverse Cycle as an option Bullant?
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Does that come with Reverse Cycle as an option Bullant?
For the price I think it does everything :-)
I'm a cold person, I walk around in the snow in a singlet! Put on heating and I just go to sleep.
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We have a ceramic fan heater for our Jayco. Heats up the camper really well & it doesn't get as hot to touch as the traditional fan heaters, it is also very quiet. It cost a bit more than a traditional fan heater but I feel a lot more comfortable leaving it on overnight.
https://www.bigw.com.au/home-garden/small-appliances/heating-cooling/heating/bpnBIGW_0000000296235/sunbeam-compact-ceramic-heater-he2055 (https://www.bigw.com.au/home-garden/small-appliances/heating-cooling/heating/bpnBIGW_0000000296235/sunbeam-compact-ceramic-heater-he2055)
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I have a good dooah under me and one on top and sleeping bag at the end of the bed incase the world ends... that's all I need in the high country in the trailer or swag or tent.. .
Maybe I need to go further south to the arctic circle to find the need for more... :(
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As lino6 said we have the fan heater for powered camps, it does a good job to heat in the annex area if we are sitting in there and it is cold and then into bed area before we go to sleep and it was good to put on the last pack up we had as whilst we got breakfast organised etc it dried the canvas. The big thing I find and I really feel the cold is what clothes to wear which I had a post about jackets recently and a lot of people mentioned merino thermals I already had some others, I got a merino singlet and a skivvy at target and they do a great job will get some more. Our most recent trip in the swag I had long sleeve thermal top and bottoms and flannelette pj's for bed I went to bed with my socks on and a polar fleece lined head band (quite wide so covers ears well) on the swag we had pillow topper then flannelette sheets, blanket and doona I found myself taking off the pj's and just sleeping in the long thermals during the night. The other great thing that is easy to carry is a hot water bottle or a few easy to heat some water and put them in the bed to warm it up if you feel the cold at night put one at the feet area and one near wear your torso goes.
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What about the 12v kit from hell
The Powerhunt setup
Power Hunt 12 Volt Heater Kit
Power Hunt 12V Hellfire Quartz Heater Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Barbeque Hot Plate Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Barbeque Grill Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Hair Blow Dryer Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Sandwich Maker Kit
Right down to the
Power Hunt 12V Personal Coffee Maker Kit
(http://www.australiandirect.com.au/assets/thumb/PNP-301SK.jpg)
http://www.australiandirect.com.au/shop/power-electrical/12-24-volt-appliances/1207 (http://www.australiandirect.com.au/shop/power-electrical/12-24-volt-appliances/1207)
or
Wave Box 12 & 240 Volt Portable Microwave Oven Kit
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What about the 12v kit from hell
The Powerhunt setup
Power Hunt 12 Volt Heater Kit
Power Hunt 12V Hellfire Quartz Heater Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Barbeque Hot Plate Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Barbeque Grill Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Hair Blow Dryer Kit
Power Hunt 12 Volt Sandwich Maker Kit
Right down to the
Power Hunt 12V Personal Coffee Maker Kit
(http://www.australiandirect.com.au/assets/thumb/PNP-301SK.jpg)
http://www.australiandirect.com.au/shop/power-electrical/12-24-volt-appliances/1207 (http://www.australiandirect.com.au/shop/power-electrical/12-24-volt-appliances/1207)
I think this post was meant for the post "Most useless thing that has been brought" :-) by what I have read in the posts.
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Yep. Bullant, on the money again.
How many acres of Solar Power is Lost/Bird/? needing.
Just to keep one of his 12V gadgets on this list operating at its promised potential?