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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: MarkVS on April 13, 2014, 02:00:29 PM
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I am on Straddie enjoying a great few days on the beach. We woul be camped no more than 100 metres, mostly grass, from council supplied drop toilets.
Yet, many of the people around me have set up their own hole in ground toilets.
Is this wrong or am i looking at it wrong?
I thought the idea of council drop toilets was so you could camp reasonably safely without uncovering nasties....
Is there any unwritten (or written) rule about this ?
MarkVS
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Flinders?
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Not that I am aware of. As long as the hole is deep enough I don't see a major issue. When nature calls and its 2am and its pi#$ing rain I know I would rather NOT walk/run 100m in the dark!!!
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Flinders?
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Yep
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Is this wrong or am i looking at it wrong?
I think you are right. Society is now about themselves not others. I mentioned this to one of our environmental officers and she just about gagged. Way to spread germs that will wreck a vacation.
Though I saw on another forum a bloke got caught tipping his cassette of &*& over the back fence of a place while on holidays.
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I thought you at least Marked it with a small sign.
"Foul Ground" with the date as well.
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Gday Mark
As said there is no written rule, in fact thats why National Parks frown upon spears being sunk into the sand for fresh water on Moreton and Fraser these days. As long as they dig a deep enough hole there isnt usually a problem BUT most dont.
Enjoy Straddie
Craig
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Crappy situation...
I thought they had to be 30/50? metres from a water source?
To avoid run off/ polluting waterways?
With min 3ft hole?
But that may be a courtesy not a rule?
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Gday Mark
As said there is no written rule, in fact thats why National Parks frown upon spears being sunk into the sand for fresh water on Moreton and Fraser these days. As long as they dig a deep enough hole there isnt usually a problem BUT most dont.
Enjoy Straddie
Craig
Craig - how deep is deep enough?, may have to dig my first one at Easter. Are there any other rules?
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Minimum of 20 feets deep, and around 1 foot in diameter.. you know, for really big teeurds
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Minimum of 20 feets deep, and around 1 foot in diameter.. you know, for really big teeurds
That size should just about fit you in JC...!!
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That size should just about fit you in JC...!!
He did say really big teeurds. ;D ;D ;D
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Craig - how deep is deep enough?, may have to dig my first one at Easter. Are there any other rules?
Mate 3/4 of a long handled shovel is a good start. Just be curtious on placement away from your camp and everyone elses.
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He did say really big teeurds. ;D ;D ;D
Geez, you're on fire today.... ;D
Same goes for you too, Mr. nbd73
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Geez, you're on fire today.... ;D
Same goes for you too, Mr. nbd73
I'd say we're pretty close to even stevens wouldn't you? ;D ;D
Although I have learned in life that the more mud you sling the dirtier you get, and the closer you are to return fire.
Aah, well, that's life and the weekend shot. Be good JC, one day we really will have to sit on opposite sides of a air hockey table and battle it out (or just get drunk at a bar!!)
:cheers:
Nigel
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I'd say we're pretty close to even stevens wouldn't you? ;D ;D
Although I have learned in life that the more mud you sling the dirtier you get, and the closer you are to return fire.
Aah, well, that's life and the weekend shot. Be good JC, one day we really will have to sit on opposite sides of a air hockey table and battle it out (or just get drunk at a bar!!)
:cheers:
Nigel
Can I be the umpire?? ;D ;D
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I dunno whether that's a good idea Oldmate.
2 onto one's not good odds.
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A very smelly topic, but IMHO, a very timely one. Sadly, I have witnessed myself the foolish habits of some campers in this regard.
As an ex military person, where I gained my knowledge of the finer arts of long drops, I'm always disgusted at what I see being done at camp sites. We go to the great outdoors to enjoy what it has to offer, yet some idiot has cat scratched the surface, dropped their load, scratched it over and took off. Only to have someone like us turn up and set our camper right over the cat scratch without knowing until you STEP in the mess. Or dunny paper all over the place and human Shit behind every bush.
Getting back to your subject. I've discovered the reason what Folks do as you've posted.
Apparently they do not wish to use the dirty smelly dunny's the Parks have provided, thus they insist on using their own, most times very questionable set ups.
Of course the FACT that the dunnys is dirty and smells in the first place is because people are too stupid to close the lid after use, also their kids usually make one hell of a mess in such toilets, parents reckon "it's not our so why should I care".
AND, of course in some parks the employees are a little lax in cleaning them regularly, so it all adds up.
I would NEVER, dig a hole anywhere near a established toilet, or in a park anywhere. NOT ON. Even if it means carrying wipes and air freshener to clean the dunny and spray around a bit before use.
IF you MUST dig a hole, PLEASE dig it deep, at least three to four feet, more if possible, and YES, the foul ground sign should be obligatory.
One time it took me 6 days to dig a hole five foot deep. It was bloody hard clay, and the shovel simply bounced off without any effect. So I chucked in a bucket of water every day, allowed it to soak in over night, went back next day and dug it out until it again became too hard, chucked in another bucket of water and repeated the process. After 6 days it got to an acceptable depth never to be a bother to anyone, and allow me to return to same site again and enjoy.
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Hi,
(http://www.cyclone.com.au/sitebuilder/products/large/28/655685.jpg)
makes depth easy.
cheers
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In Victorian parks and forests, they must be a minimum 100m from water courses.
It may not be popular with die hards but I am a massive fan of portable toilets - as a person who will probably spend Tuesday cleaning up from campers who consider poo tickets laying around a good weekend. There are too many people camping to allow it to be sustainable.
I was admiring a beautiful riverside campsite on Thursday while waiting for a helicopter when I stepped in human sh1t. Great and not the first time.
Filthy f@ckers
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Andrew c
I am right there with you, I am working all of Easter and the attitude of a minority of campers is unbelievable ???, They can bring all their gear with them and then dump anything they break or packaging it came in, which we have to pay to dump :-[ then bitch that it cost too much to camp ???, and rip out plants to make a clearing to cap in instead of walking 100 meters >:(, and not even bury it or cover it up, and have the gaul to say our dunnies are not clean, I am obviously missing something here :angel:
Happy Easter Swagger's I know you are not among the sorts I describe above :cup:
Grizzly :cheers:
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Worked today, mostly families and all good. a couple of bogan p platers who thought that doing skids on the gravel was great until they speared of the road in to the bushes. When they asked me to help, I told them I was by calling the cops. Apparently I have a bad attitude ;D
Working tomorrow, and Monday. Then next weekend as well.
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rule is if you can smell the toilet you are too close to it. They are a keep out, and keep well away from them building that are popping up everywhere.
If one has to go visit one, then I suggest to wear a dust mask.
Peter,
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Andrew c
I am right there with you, I am working all of Easter and the attitude of a minority of campers is unbelievable ???, They can bring all their gear with them and then dump anything they break or packaging it came in, which we have to pay to dump :-[ then bitch that it cost too much to camp ???, and rip out plants to make a clearing to cap in instead of walking 100 meters >:(, and not even bury it or cover it up, and have the gaul to say our dunnies are not clean, I am obviously missing something here :angel:
Happy Easter Swagger's I know you are not among the sorts I describe above :cup:
Grizzly :cheers:
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It would be interesting to have a poll and see how many Swaggers carry a porta loo on their CT.
We do.
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How much does a porta loo cost now days . . . . . ,
I know I could afford one before I could a camper
If you must dig a long drop you should be measuring the distance from a provided one in kilometres not metres. . . . . . .
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rule is if you can smell the toilet you are too close to it. They are a keep out, and keep well away from them building that are popping up everywhere.
If one has to go visit one, then I suggest to wear a dust mask.
Peter,
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What amazes me, is the number of people, (grown ups ) and kids who use these supplied toilets and fail to drop the lid as requested by the parks authorities despite the notice asking them too.
Apparently it fails to register in their tiny minds, that the same blow fly that just flew out of the pit because they left the lid open, will be sitting on their lunch when they get back to camp ? How's that for totally clueless ?
Sometimes I wonder what would happen in our cities if the sewerage system ever failed. I'd hazard to say, first we'd be knee deep in you know what, and then the diseases would run rampant.
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well in the old days the sewage ran down the street, thats why thousands of people died from what ever..
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How much does a porta loo cost now days . . . . . ,
I know I could afford one before I could a camper
If you must dig a long drop you should be measuring the distance from a provided one in kilometres not metres. . . . . . .
You can pick up a porta loo for about $100
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You can pick up a porta loo for about $100
Yep under that price. We carry a large one.
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Oldmate,
Are you talking a port-a-Loo with Four walls and a roof.
And a big tank of poo under the floor.
Or is it a port-a-potti cassette toilet.
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Oldmate,
Are you talking a port-a-Loo with Four walls and a roof.
No that's his Ulti. Hahaha
After a few beers, I have seen and heard some manure around it. :)
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Lmao, yep that's what I need, with the amount of crap I dribble
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Lmao, yep that's what I need, with the amount of crap I dribble
I didn't mean just you.... Hahaha
And to stay on topic.
Agreed. We also have a porta loo (cassette type) that we will take with us when it's required.
Easier than digging a hole... Till you have to empty it....
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Lmao, yep that's what I need, with the amount of crap I dribble
You dribble that much you almost put the fire out on the weekend ;D ;D
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I carry a portable toilet all the time. It just straps onto the drawbar of the dove.
We dont use it generally if there is a national park drop toilet around (unless its REALLY bad)
Most of the station stays up here in the north west REQUIRE that you have a chemical toilet (if you don't, they require you to hire one from them) This rule is probably due to people not being able to dig deep enough holes etc.
Alot of people turn their nose up at carrying your own sh!t around, but seriously if you use the right chemicals etc the smell is non-existent even when you empty it. I dont see why more people dont carry them!
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Oldmate
Oldmate,
Are you talking a port-a-Loo with Four walls and a roof.
And a big tank of poo under the floor.
Or is it a port-a-potti cassette toilet.
My Question was to clarify.
It seems some people here seem to know you too well. :cheers:
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I carry a portable toilet all the time. It just straps onto the drawbar of the dove.
We dont use it generally if there is a national park drop toilet around (unless its REALLY bad)
Most of the station stays up here in the north west REQUIRE that you have a chemical toilet (if you don't, they require you to hire one from them) This rule is probably due to people not being able to dig deep enough holes etc.
Alot of people turn their nose up at carrying your own sh!t around, but seriously if you use the right chemicals etc the smell is non-existent even when you empty it. I dont see why more people dont carry them!
I agree, very simple and no smell
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I carry a portable toilet all the time. It just straps onto the drawbar of the dove.
We dont use it generally if there is a national park drop toilet around (unless its REALLY bad)
Most of the station stays up here in the north west REQUIRE that you have a chemical toilet (if you don't, they require you to hire one from them) This rule is probably due to people not being able to dig deep enough holes etc.
Alot of people turn their nose up at carrying your own sh!t around, but seriously if you use the right chemicals etc the smell is non-existent even when you empty it. I dont see why more people dont carry them!
Wouldn't want it pelted with rocks, have to be protected, sitting on the A frame is very exposed.
Not a lot of privacy either. :worthles: ;D ;D ;D >:D >:D >:D :cup:
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mine is on A frame in canvas type bag which i brought with it, sits behind rock gaurd and works a treat.
cheers 8)
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Victoria National Park regulations ~ this is the Alpine National Park in particular;
http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/explore/parks/alpine-national-park/safety-and-regulations (http://parkweb.vic.gov.au/explore/parks/alpine-national-park/safety-and-regulations)
Take note of;
Campsites must be at least 20 metres from waterways.
Toilet waste must be buried to a depth of at least 15cm and at least 100m away from waterways.
Dispose of soap and detergent at least 50m from waterways.
I also read somewhere that if you are taking a bush dump. Dig you 30cm hole, dump, wipe, BURN SOILED BOG ROLL in hole and then backfill.
Not sure about that in summer though.
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No way ever, am I gunna light a match anywhere even remotely close to where I've dumped and wiped.
There would be an earth shattering KABOOM
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There would be an earth shattering KABOOM
LOL I even read that in the voice of Marvin ;D
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Funny you should mention that..
I am sitting in carnarvon.. Stuck waiting for a car to be fixed after some water in fuel at the end of our trip.
Our toilet has been sitting on the drawbar of our dove for 3000kms over the last 2 weeks, approx 1200 of those on corrugated crappy roads and aside from being dusty it's in perfect condition.
We don't have a stone guard, it just sits in a canvas bag from in front camping gear and it's just ratchet strapped down..
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Oldmate
My Question was to clarify.
It seems some people here seem to know you too well. :cheers:
Lol. Yeah mate, just a cassette and chemical type. And yep some people on here know me very well, others just make assumptions, that are generally eighth also. Lol