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Title: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: DRB120 on March 19, 2014, 09:02:12 PM
Ive been thinking of getting a new whipper Snipper for a while as the Ryobi I have is about 9 years old and has been a bit temperamental of late.

Well today was the final straw, I knocked off a little early to come home only for the bloody thing to not want to start, I checked it over and gave the spark plug a quick clean and after 40 or so pulls it started, only to be going for 2 minutes and the head then spits the chord everywhere. So I respooled it and another 40 pulls and off again.

Well 30 seconds later the chord is across the yard again, a few choice words and then I managed my best impression of a 2 Year old and across the yard it went at a great rate of knots. Needless to say it is now not worth trying to fix.

So what should I get? I don't want to go much above $300 if I don't have to, I have a 3000m block but minimal work to be done, mostly just around the house and fence so nothing too much. Any suggestions welcome.
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Post by: TheWall on March 19, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
Never go past a Honda...largest manufacturer of internal combustion engines and they are simply more reliable than anything else. Most maintenance guys run Honda...that tells a story!
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Post by: Campa on March 19, 2014, 09:14:41 PM
Honda x 2
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Post by: Moggy on March 19, 2014, 09:25:35 PM
I have a stihl ($250) had it about  6 years, only replaced plugs. I would suggest that you get a new fuel filter. When mine started spluttering that's what I did & went like a new by again. Otherwise for the $$$ stihl  is good value imo

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Post by: chillipepperz on March 19, 2014, 09:32:13 PM
Had  a Stihl in the past, lost that one to the ex, good solid unit, probably still trimming her bushes well to this day. Now have a Husqvarna for past 2 years. Not a heap of work done with it but a good unit...until just before last Christmas last year when the ignition unit crapped itself. Around $180 later all is good. Should have bought the Honda...do Jeep make one?
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Post by: oldmate on March 19, 2014, 09:57:19 PM
Honda or still. Most mower guys I know usea Honda.
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Post by: noel_w on March 19, 2014, 09:58:14 PM
Honda, mine has more guts on idle than my old McCullock had flat chat
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Post by: Pog on March 19, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
Husky, Honda or Stihl.
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Post by: GeoffA on March 19, 2014, 10:04:10 PM
Got an Echo that has to be 40yo.
Still on the original plug, rings, everything.
Getting shabby now though. Just plain worn out.
Probably replace it with a Honda when the time comes.
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Post by: mickmac42 on March 19, 2014, 10:04:57 PM
I've got a Tanaka and it just keeps going. I've used and abused it, and never had it serviced. It just keeps on doing its thing. Only takes one or two pulls to get it started. I can't comment on their quality these days, but fifteen years ago they were building good gear.

Mike
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Post by: red t ute on March 19, 2014, 10:05:43 PM
Don't buy a honda I've always loved all Honda products and when out and bought a new Whipper Snipper and Mower in one hit over $2000.00 worth and they have just hit 3 year old.
So my Whipper Snipper had been getting hard to start felt like its hydraulic locking when I tried to start it I though i will take it down get serviced and get them to have a look at the hard starting problem.
So want back a week later and they informed me that it will cost $180.00 for the service and repairs and to replace the carby.
I said what I could go and buy a new stihl for that price.
But I asked about why is it not a warranty Claim they informed me that Honda dose not Warrant any claims with fuel systems. By this stage I had the ****s and then they informed me it's the new unleaded Fuel It stuffed the carby.
I informed them that there has been Lead in fuel for 15 years all they said it hasn't been that long.
They then informed me I've done well getting 3 years without a problem and that some people only get a year or 2 out of there carbys. And I asked if it's the same on the mowers and they said it's the same for all honda products.
So I bought a carby kit for $27.00 still got charged for the service at $90.00.
I was then talking to one of the boys I work with and he had the same problem after the 3rd carby at $80.00 each he binned it and bought a Stihl.

I'm a mechanic and had never heard such **** before I fixed a lot of mowers, Snipper, cars everything in between and carby gaskets don't dissolve in unleaded fuel that fast in any other product.

Also my Father Inlaw has 15 year old honda Generator 700watt in the steel box type I had not been used in 5years the air fitter had dissolved replaced it change the oil and it run like brand new it had never been touched.
I always loved honda everything but it will take a lot for me to love them again.
 
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Post by: RebsWA on March 19, 2014, 10:07:42 PM
Stihl :cup:
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Post by: GeoffA on March 19, 2014, 10:07:57 PM
Interesting. More research needed before I buy.......
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Post by: Jasman on March 19, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
For under $300 I reckon you can't go past one of the bent shaft stihls.
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Post by: DRB120 on March 19, 2014, 10:49:00 PM
Don't buy a honda I've always loved all Honda products and when out and bought a new Whipper Snipper and Mower in one hit over $2000.00 worth and they have just hit 3 year old.
So my Whipper Snipper had been getting hard to start felt like its hydraulic locking when I tried to start it I though i will take it down get serviced and get them to have a look at the hard starting problem.
So want back a week later and they informed me that it will cost $180.00 for the service and repairs and to replace the carby.
I said what I could go and buy a new stihl for that price.
But I asked about why is it not a warranty Claim they informed me that Honda dose not Warrant any claims with fuel systems. By this stage I had the ****s and then they informed me it's the new unleaded Fuel It stuffed the carby.
I informed them that there has been Lead in fuel for 15 years all they said it hasn't been that long.
They then informed me I've done well getting 3 years without a problem and that some people only get a year or 2 out of there carbys. And I asked if it's the same on the mowers and they said it's the same for all honda products.
So I bought a carby kit for $27.00 still got charged for the service at $90.00.
I was then talking to one of the boys I work with and he had the same problem after the 3rd carby at $80.00 each he binned it and bought a Stihl.

I'm a mechanic and had never heard such **** before I fixed a lot of mowers, Snipper, cars everything in between and carby gaskets don't dissolve in unleaded fuel that fast in any other product.

Also my Father Inlaw has 15 year old honda Generator 700watt in the steel box type I had not been used in 5years the air fitter had dissolved replaced it change the oil and it run like brand new it had never been touched.
I always loved honda everything but it will take a lot for me to love them again.

I had heard similar stories to what you have mentioned above but wasn't sure if they were true. The Stihl range appears to be good value for money, haven't heard of too many dramas with them. The only thing that really stands out with the Honda is that its a 4 stroke. Is it worth the extra, well Im not sure.

Thanks everyone for the feedback so far, its certainly given me more to ponder.
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Post by: kylarama on March 20, 2014, 05:24:38 AM
Check out Shindaiwa too.  Japanese made with a 5 year warranty.
You can pick up a straight shaft with a speed feed head for under $400.

I picked up a mid 90's Shindaiwa straight shaft 2nd hand 10 years ago.  Gave the carby a rebuild to clean out stale fuel and it hasn't skipped a beat since.
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Post by: jk on March 20, 2014, 05:32:07 AM
Echo, had it about 15 years now !
Never missed a beat, still on the original plug !
Also have an Echo chain saw and hedge trimmer, both are super reliable and great power for motor size !
Have a Sthil blower, it's always in need of a tune and is a chore to start, it'll be replaced by an Echo when the time comes !
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Post by: D4D on March 20, 2014, 05:34:34 AM
Can I suggest you look at the Sthil Kombi Tool range. I had a Honda, that speewa now owns, moved to the Stihl Kombi Tool and now have a brush cutter, pole saw, pole hedger and carbon extension. Best thing I ever did, it has been flogged on pruning large hedges and big trees and hasn't missed a beat. I find it is a little harder to start than the Honda, 3-4 pulls vs. 1-2, but once going runs great with fresh fuel.

I also have an Echo chainsaw and blower that have done heaps of work and have never been serviced. They run great and have heaps of power.
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Post by: swanny on March 20, 2014, 05:35:07 AM
Honda....!!!!
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Post by: Rodt on March 20, 2014, 06:02:58 AM
I bought one of those cheapo (no name brand basically) combi units and it hasn't missed a beat in the last two years. Got it off one of the online shops
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Post by: FZJ on March 20, 2014, 06:27:41 AM
Well today was the final straw, I knocked off a little early to come home only for the bloody thing to not want to start, I checked it over and gave the spark plug a quick clean and after 40 or so pulls it started, only to be going for 2 minutes and the head then spits the chord everywhere. So I respooled it and another 40 pulls and off again.


Thats what is known as a "mudcrab" motor.You end up with one big arm and red all over.

Stihl
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Post by: Cracka on March 20, 2014, 06:38:50 AM
I've got a straight shaft Stihl that is at least 25 years old, only just put a carb kit in it last year.  Its had the odd plug but that's about it.

Mick
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: feisty on March 20, 2014, 07:03:13 AM
I replaced dad's old tanaka with the cheapest straight shaft I could find at bunnings. It was sub $150 homelite. That was three years ago and it is brilliant for the money and works and starts perfectly.   Can't believe how good it is.

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Post by: scarps on March 20, 2014, 07:24:06 AM

I replaced dad's old tanaka with the cheapest straight shaft I could find at bunnings. It was sub $150 homelite. That was three years ago and it is brilliant for the money and works and starts perfectly.   Can't believe how good it is.

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x2 on the Homelite from Bunnings. Value for money, starts 2nd or 3rd pull (sometimes 4th or 5th if I'm not concentrating - user error), and for the price I can throw it away after 5 years if I need to and buy whatever the latest is then. Currently 4 years old and reckon I'll get more than another year out of it.

Having said all of the above, I don't have much grass to cut (and the neighbour won't let me cut hers), so at best it get's used for about 15mins a week.
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Post by: paceman on March 20, 2014, 07:26:40 AM
my brother-in-law and i have both had our kawasaki's for over 10 years (his for over 15) and they have not missed a beat.
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Post by: wilson79 on March 20, 2014, 07:36:06 AM
I purchased an entry level bent shaft Sthil about 6mths ago and it works like a dream!! it cost $199.00 and is bloody great so far..
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: Axl on March 20, 2014, 07:39:10 AM
Ive been thinking of getting a new whipper Snipper for a while as the Ryobi I have is about 9 years old and has been a bit temperamental of late.

Well today was the final straw, I knocked off a little early to come home only for the bloody thing to not want to start, I checked it over and gave the spark plug a quick clean and after 40 or so pulls it started, only to be going for 2 minutes and the head then spits the chord everywhere. So I respooled it and another 40 pulls and off again.

Well 30 seconds later the chord is across the yard again, a few choice words and then I managed my best impression of a 2 Year old and across the yard it went at a great rate of knots. Needless to say it is now not worth trying to fix.

So what should I get? I don't want to go much above $300 if I don't have to, I have a 3000m block but minimal work to be done, mostly just around the house and fence so nothing too much. Any suggestions welcome.


I think you have answered your own question by stating that the Ryobi you have is “about 9 years old”. I have a Ryobi around the same age and it hasn’t missed a beat and form memory they are only around $150 from the big green shed.

$159 to be exact http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/garden/garden-tools/line-trimmer/petrol (http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/garden/garden-tools/line-trimmer/petrol)
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Post by: Nomad on March 20, 2014, 07:40:31 AM
I have had my stihl for 13 years. New plug and filter every couple of years and it still starts second pull.........
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Post by: DRB120 on March 20, 2014, 08:16:13 AM
I think you have answered your own question by stating that the Ryobi you have is “about 9 years old”. I have a Ryobi around the same age and it hasn’t missed a beat and form memory they are only around $150 from the big green shed.

$159 to be exact http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/garden/garden-tools/line-trimmer/petrol (http://www.bunnings.com.au/our-range/garden/garden-tools/line-trimmer/petrol)


Hi Axl

Thats exactly what the wife had been saying, go and get another one. I just figued as we all do its time to go and get something new and its always nice to have something different. I remember I only paid $120 or so for it all those years ago and to be honest I dont ever remember doing much if anything to it through the years.

Ive pretty much narrowed it down to the Stihl or have a look at Bunnings. I think it will just come down to which ever is reasonably light and has a decent length to it as Im just over 6 feet tall and hate nothing more then bending down for 30 mins at a time. Ill take the comments around the Combi range into consideration as I hadnt really looked at those as an option and it would be nice not to have to have so many things clogging up shed space.

With everything pretty much being built to last 5 mins past the warranty period these days I just cant justify paying the big bucks for one, and with the above mentioned I can replace them every 3 or 4 years for the price of the Honda and others.

Also If I only spend a $150-$200 I wont feel as bad if my patience runs out again and this one ends up across they yard.

Thanks for everyones input, its always good to get real world feedback.

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Post by: Robbo on March 20, 2014, 08:25:05 AM
I'd say that after nine years your old Ryobi has done pretty well, so based on that i would just get another Ryobi and look foward to the next nine years.
I bought a GMC form Big W about six years ago for $90 after GMC went out of business and it is still going. Gets a little temperamental with starting if it has been sitting for a while but usually a fresh tank of pre mix fuel fixes that.
Honda are no doubt one of the best brands out there and my thirty year old lawn mower is testament to that but for the price you could replace the Ryobi several times over.
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Post by: DannyG on March 20, 2014, 09:32:22 AM
Got an Echo that has to be 40yo.
Still on the original plug, rings, everything.
Getting shabby now though. Just plain worn out.
Probably replace it with a Honda when the time comes.

Take it back and complain it hasn't lived up to your expectations ;D
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Post by: Goose on March 20, 2014, 10:35:20 AM
the Ryobi I have is about 9 years old

Maybe the answer is in the question. 9 years from a Ryobi is pretty good, perhaps stick with it?
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Post by: GeoffA on March 20, 2014, 11:19:30 AM
Take it back and complain it hasn't lived up to your expectations ;D

I don't have the receipt..... ;D
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Post by: Brumbypt on March 20, 2014, 11:46:24 AM
Stihl, husq, honda, all good.


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Post by: albany_nomads on March 20, 2014, 11:57:05 AM
I run a Honda 4 stroke  straight  shaft wipper snippet / brushcutter
No mixing fuel , very happy with it  :-)


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Post by: johnno48 on March 20, 2014, 01:30:03 PM
Stihl straight shaft
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Post by: AJ150 on March 20, 2014, 06:09:33 PM
Honda straight shaft
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Post by: MarkVS on March 20, 2014, 06:35:44 PM
Zero weed spray around the edges once/month.
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Post by: bluejay on March 20, 2014, 06:44:34 PM
Buy your hondas buy your your sthills buy all the other crap brands you want then when you wasted your money save up and by shindiawa straight shaft .Have 3 commercial mowing runs all using shindiawa for the past 7 years dont put a grease gun near them ,change air filter occasionally put fuel and replace the chord .job done
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Post by: Kydar on March 20, 2014, 07:38:36 PM
Honda !!!!!
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Post by: chetty on March 20, 2014, 07:46:23 PM
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Post by: Barrabart on March 20, 2014, 08:05:26 PM
I bought a little Honda bent shaft in 2006 or 2007, run premium fuel in it always, it has never missed a beat, and true to Honda's claim, it starts every time. Couple of pumps on the primer, choke on one pull, choke off second pull and it's away and running.
And no mixing fuel.

Shindaiwa stuff is good too though, we had Shindaiwa gear at a mine I worked at, chainsaws and whipper snippers for clearing under and around power lines, general tidy up around the place, the local hire ratbag no hopers that used to get paid to do the clearing treated the gear like sh!t, and it survived.......
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Post by: BillC on March 20, 2014, 08:54:55 PM
OK, you've had plenty of recommendations about brands. I think now is the time to consider engine size and shaft type.

1. How often do you expect to use as this will have a bearing on how long the grass or weeds will be when you attack them?
2. How fast do you want to get through the job?

If you do it often and have plenty of time go for a small capacity bent shaft. If not, spend more and go for something bigger with straight shaft.

I get this feeling a that unleaded fuel in small engines is just a great excuse for......(insert issue)...

Bill

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Post by: theins on March 21, 2014, 12:31:42 PM
Also check out Masters, they have a small 4 stroke unit with bent shift for under 200.
works fine for me, though I am not a heavy user..
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Post by: RedDmaxxx on March 21, 2014, 01:20:04 PM
Buy your hondas buy your your sthills buy all the other crap brands you want then when you wasted your money save up and by shindiawa straight shaft .Have 3 commercial mowing runs all using shindiawa for the past 7 years dont put a grease gun near them ,change air filter occasionally put fuel and replace the chord .job done

Yes I agree with bluejay....ive got a lawn mowing/gardening business...and have worn out about 30 whipper snippers over the years....Honda echo Kawasaki, but mostly sthill....and now im running shindiawa, and very happy with this brand,.. :cup:
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Post by: The punter on March 21, 2014, 01:29:53 PM
I have hated every single one I have owned.Gave up on petrol for an electric Ryobi, but the stupid feeder still gets tangled every time I use it
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Post by: truckiejas on March 21, 2014, 01:35:50 PM
go with the sthil and get yourself one of these littl juey heads and throw those wind on cord heads away i think you can get them a bunnings now too
http://littljuey.com/products/cutting-heads/professional-engine-head.html (http://littljuey.com/products/cutting-heads/professional-engine-head.html)
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Post by: staghornflat on March 21, 2014, 03:12:09 PM
Sheep, they don't need fuel and taste good on the BBQ. ;D ;D ;D :cheers:
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Post by: Beachman on March 21, 2014, 03:53:56 PM
I also purchased an entry level bent shaft Sthil about 2.5 years ago and it works like a dream!! it cost $199.00 and is bloody great so far.

While they say mower shops advertise they keep spare parts for the Sthil range, but for $200 when this eventually breaks it’s probably more cost effective to just throw it away and buy a new one.
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Post by: Swannie on March 21, 2014, 04:34:51 PM
Sheep, they don't need fuel and taste good on the BBQ. ;D ;D ;D :cheers:

 :cup: We have a winner
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Post by: whatsa on March 21, 2014, 04:40:07 PM
x2 on the Homelite from Bunnings. Value for money, starts 2nd or 3rd pull (sometimes 4th or 5th if I'm not concentrating - user error), and for the price I can throw it away after 5 years if I need to and buy whatever the latest is then. Currently 4 years old and reckon I'll get more than another year out of it.

Having said all of the above, I don't have much grass to cut (and the neighbour won't let me cut hers), so at best it get's used for about 15mins a week.

Are you sure she knew what you meant?
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Post by: MIC78C on March 21, 2014, 06:15:34 PM
Buy your hondas buy your your sthills buy all the other crap brands you want then when you wasted your money save up and by shindiawa straight shaft .Have 3 commercial mowing runs all using shindiawa for the past 7 years dont put a grease gun near them ,change air filter occasionally put fuel and replace the chord .job done

Ive had my Shindaiwa for about 6-7 years now, absolutely love it. So much lighter than other comparable quality machines. It's a straight shaft, and has been totally reliable. I wouldn't know if it needs a service or not, never had a spanner to it.
My mate has the next one up from mine, which has a pole saw attachment, same size bar as my Stihl pole saw, but once again its half the weight, but does the same job.
Put my vote down for Shindaiwa, you'll appreciate how mich lighter they are to use.
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Post by: shrek4 on March 21, 2014, 06:35:23 PM
This is what I picked up today.

The FS 45 C was $279. Listed on the Stihl website for $369 or March catalogue for $319
The HS 45 was $329. Listed on the Stihl website for $499 or March catalogue for $399

Not a bad saving at the Adelaide All Tools Pooraka car park sale.
Didn't even know it was on, lucky I went to Pooraka and not Payneham.

That's $260 saved on RRP or everyday prices or $110 on their March catalogue.

I'm happy with that!

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Title: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: scarps on March 21, 2014, 06:54:39 PM
Are you sure she knew what you meant?
i'm not sure I know what you mean?

Nah, yeah I do:-)
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Post by: Beatle on March 21, 2014, 07:16:58 PM
What sort of snipping do you need to do?

I've had a few different ones over the years and now have a straight shaft Stihl.  Believe it or not I reckon it's too much tool for a cared-for yard.  Great for a bush block when using some of the heavy duty cutter heads though.  But it's a bit like using a big chainsaw to trim your hedges ;D  I've tried everything and I can't keep cord up to it as it over-revs and the cord breaks.

I once got a rechargable snipper (to burn up excess frequent flyer points) and honestly, it was great for a normal sized yard.  I was in Katherine at the time so she got used more than weekly in the wet season.  Light, short, quiet, clean, and no excuses from the missus or kids that they can't start it or mix fuel, so no reason the whole family can't use it.  The cutter head also had a quick-swivel function and took 5 seconds to turn right angle so you can cut a nice neat edge along a path or driveway.

So consider electric or rechargable depending on workload
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Post by: Swogjb on March 21, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
This is what I picked up today.

The FS 45 C was $279. Listed on the Stihl website for $369 or March catalogue for $319
The HS 45 was $329. Listed on the Stihl website for $499 or March catalogue for $399

Not a bad saving at the Adelaide All Tools Pooraka car park sale.
Didn't even know it was on, lucky I went to Pooraka and not Payneham.

That's $260 saved on RRP or everyday prices or $110 on their March catalogue.

I'm happy with that!

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Bargain :cup:
It's hard to go past the Stihl gear IMHO.

Had the Stihl straight shaft brush cutter for about 10 years.(it's copped a pizzling in this time I can tell ya)
Broke the pull cord last week, so I gave it a birthday and replaced the spark plug and air filter while I had it on the work bench.

I purchased the same  HS45 hedge trimmer for a very overgrown garden at a new property we purchased not long ago. It makes light work of pruning that's for sure. Even SWMBO reckons it's awesome for pruning the 200 hundred odd roses she has adopted.

 :cheers:


Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: maurerless on March 21, 2014, 10:39:24 PM
There's plenty of opinions here, and I'm going to add some more.

If you're only going to use the whipper snipper for light work, then go for a cheapie and chuck it when it's knackered. If you want it to do a bit more hard yakka or get something that'll last, then maybe look into a more durable beastie. It might be better to fork over a bit of extra cash to get something that'll last, or can be repaired.

I have a few acres and really appreciate the guts of my Stihl brushcutter - I also use weed killer spray around fences and driveway. I'll be buggered if I'm going to trim a 50m driveway and over 400m of fence line perimeter every week through spring. Look at a straight shaft - there's less wear and lube required to maintain the flex shaft in the longer term. Also a straight shaft often allows you a wider range of heads. If you have a really tough job you can add a rubber/plastic tipped head, or a metal plate jobbie. (Just be careful using metal plates - they can be deadly and also create sparks off stones and in summer it could lead to fires) :police: I usually use a line, but for some occasions I've swapped to a metal blade. It truly is amazing what they'll cut through.

If you are going to turn your trimmer to the side (say to do edging) it's better not to go for a 4 stroke. Having oil in a sump makes it a design problem to properly lube the piston/cylinder. It can also lead to oil foaming thereby killing the oil circulation. To my mind the good old 2 stroke mix keeps the lube no matter the angle of the trimmer.  ;D

And if you have the time to look, there's often sales, or field days that you can go to and get a bargain llike shrek4 did. If you are buying a few items from a dealer, often you can haggle them down, or maybe get something thrown in like ear protection, face guard, extra bottles of lube, spare lines, etc.

Good luck sorting through all the opinions!!
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: GeoffA on March 22, 2014, 05:34:46 AM
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So consider electric or rechargable depending on workload

I agree.

We have a suburban block, and we keep the garden under control.
Bought a Ryobi 18v blower, and it works fine for what we need. Same batts as my drills etc.
Not the same blowing power as a petrol, but very convenient, and the lovely one can use it.....

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: shanegtr on March 22, 2014, 06:11:36 AM
x2 on the Homelite from Bunnings. Value for money, starts 2nd or 3rd pull (sometimes 4th or 5th if I'm not concentrating - user error), and for the price I can throw it away after 5 years if I need to and buy whatever the latest is then. Currently 4 years old and reckon I'll get more than another year out of it.

Having said all of the above, I don't have much grass to cut (and the neighbour won't let me cut hers), so at best it get's used for about 15mins a week.
x3 for homelite. I run a tank of juice through mine every 12 days with my backyard. Yep, its noisey and is not the most egonomically friendy snipper out there, but I havent had a single problem with it in the last year and a half I've been running it. Cant complain for $100 ;D, to rub it in the bugger starts easier than my 2 month old husky chainsaw >:(
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: jmorgan1981 on March 22, 2014, 07:35:30 AM
Ive got a Honda. Love it.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: DRB120 on March 23, 2014, 12:05:49 AM
Thanks everyone for your thoughts and opinions.

I ended up having a look at bunnings today and got another Ryobi. $179 and can add the extra attachments if needed which was handy. I figure for the price as long as I get a few years out of it Ill be right.

I don't have that much to get through in a week so should be fine.

Thanks again for all the help.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: hainess on March 23, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
Most of the problems with the cheaper 2 stroke powered garden tools is the failure to burn all the oil.
It also affects some of the top end items.
This in turn clogs up the exhaust with carbon and unburned oil gunk.

If the muffler has a spark arrester fitted, usual steel mesh, this can clog rather quickly.

The solution?
Run the bloody things flat out. Like a 2 stroke outboard. At least 30% of running time at WOT.Wide Open Throttle.
They are designed for it.
Use a decent 2 stroke oil.

If the machine becomes hard to start or wont rev when running, try this first.
Remove the exhaust. Usually a plastic cover then a couple of bolts.
Soak the exhaust in a container of petrol for 30 minutes.
Shake the crap from the exhaust and bash it against something hard a couple of times.
Do it somewhere you DONT want oily carbon crap all over the place.
Repeat soaking and bashing. Repeat again.

Let the exhaust dry for a bit then reassemble the machine.

Use a decent 2 stroke oil.

3 hedge trimmers, 2 whipper snippers, brush cutter, 2 chainsaws and blower.
None are Stihl(long story) but my 2 stroke oil is.

Rod.
.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: speewa158 on March 23, 2014, 06:47:04 PM
lf you read through the posts  , Best results
1 . Straight shaft
2 . New lean fuel
3 . Regular use
4 . Service to the exhaust port so it can breath
5 . Keep the air cleaner clean
6 . Run it flat out
After 24 years working with these types of kit , l expect 2 to 3 years as a service life then it toast , but that's commercial life  . As a domestic unit it s down time will do more damage than work time . Keep it busy & it will keep going .
 Most important  " You Gets Whats You Pays For "
                                                                             & then its time for  :cheers:
l use a Honda striaght shaft Bruhys & a Honda 21in self propelled 3 speed if l have to walk , then a ride on .
But thats another story  :cheers:
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: DRB120 on March 23, 2014, 07:41:21 PM
I got the new trimmer out today and its a great little unit. No troubles starting, plenty of power. So all in all Im happy, now to see how long it will last.

I think it is a good point made above in regards to running them at WOT for a bit each time, its the one thing my grandfather taught me with 2 strokes. I always make a point for the last minute or 2 of use to have it wide open at a minimum.

After the whipper snipping was done I jumped on the new John Deere D110 for its first run and the lawn was done in no time. However I must have looked like the biggest knob as we are currently renting a house while our new place is being built and here I am roaring around on a big bloody ride on for a 500sqm block. First time I have enjoyed mowing the lawn at this place though.

Thanks again for all the help and opinions.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: scarps on March 23, 2014, 07:51:42 PM

I got the new trimmer out today and its a great little unit. No troubles starting, plenty of power. So all in all Im happy, now to see how long it will last.

I think it is a good point made above in regards to running them at WOT for a bit each time, its the one thing my grandfather taught me with 2 strokes. I always make a point for the last minute or 2 of use to have it wide open at a minimum.

After the whipper snipping was done I jumped on the new John Deere D110 for its first run and the lawn was done in no time. However I must have looked like the biggest knob as we are currently renting a house while our new place is being built and here I am roaring around on a big bloody ride on for a 500sqm block. First time I have enjoyed mowing the lawn at this place though.

Thanks again for all the help and opinions.
seems like a lot of power for a small task. maybe you could see if the neighbour wants their lawns trimmed.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: DRB120 on March 23, 2014, 08:07:54 PM
seems like a lot of power for a small task. maybe you could see if the neighbour wants their lawns trimmed.

Hi Scarps

I was nice and did the neighbour on both sides footpaths. The new house will be on 3000sqm. Thanks
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: noel_w on March 24, 2014, 12:56:01 PM

The solution?
Run the bloody things flat out. Like a 2 stroke outboard. At least 30% of running time at WOT.Wide Open Throttle.
They are designed for it.


My Yamaha RD350 was like that, loved WOT. The  :police:  didn't though.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: dazzler on March 24, 2014, 06:27:20 PM
No takers for Ryobi.

That is some top quality gear. 

(its opposite day)  :D
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: speedcomm on March 24, 2014, 07:05:42 PM
Well this post couldn't come at a better time, I too am in the market for a new whipper snipper, mine needs to be girl friendly as I work OS and wife and kids mow the lawn mostly. We started looking at the battery powered Ryobi then worked out the run time etc and baulked, next was a Honda 4 stroke because of ease of fuel ( same as mower ) and supposed easy starting. Then we stumbled on Troybilt at Masters which have a USA built 4 stroke cheaper than a Honda, and then Wife found the ultimate for her an electric start 2 stroke Ryobi. I think it was straight shaft, can't remember. You attach a drill battery to the handle bar and then presto, electric start. No idea how gimmick an idea it is, I still want to buy the Honda straight shaft, which I believe will be fine for them to start ! BIL has a Stihl, wife is checking them out as well, prob not overly girl friendly though, but will see what she thinks.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: dazzler on March 24, 2014, 07:44:43 PM
Not Ryobi.  For the love of god.  :D
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: red t ute on March 24, 2014, 11:00:32 PM
Well this post couldn't come at a better time, I too am in the market for a new whipper snipper, mine needs to be girl friendly as I work OS and wife and kids mow the lawn mostly. We started looking at the battery powered Ryobi then worked out the run time etc and baulked, next was a Honda 4 stroke because of ease of fuel ( same as mower ) and supposed easy starting. Then we stumbled on Troybilt at Masters which have a USA built 4 stroke cheaper than a Honda, and then Wife found the ultimate for her an electric start 2 stroke Ryobi. I think it was straight shaft, can't remember. You attach a drill battery to the handle bar and then presto, electric start. No idea how gimmick an idea it is, I still want to buy the Honda straight shaft, which I believe will be fine for them to start ! BIL has a Stihl, wife is checking them out as well, prob not overly girl friendly though, but will see what she thinks.
You will need to check if your if wife will Handle the extra weight of the the Honda.
As my wife won't use our Honda straight shaft as it's to heavy to use.
I have a sore back after using the heavy thing.
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: speewa158 on March 25, 2014, 05:44:02 AM
Honda has perfected easy start to a fine art . Prime it , set it ,, few pulls & its away . lf Honda sell it , it works  :cheers:
Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: nickandbron on March 25, 2014, 11:46:56 AM
I have used a Shindaiwa for almost 10yrs without incident. I'm so happy with it that I have since purchased A Shindaiwa chainsaw (awesome), hedge trimmer and leaf blower. Lots of contractors around here seem to use their gear also. When it comes to mowers, a 4 stroke like Honda IMO is the way to go. I bought a Honda mower 10 yrs ago and it too has been great, but I think that you need a 2 stroke that revs easily for whipper snippers.


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Title: Re: Which Whipper Snipper to buy?
Post by: mrdenn1s on March 25, 2014, 11:56:41 AM
I have a Sthil FS85

Bullet proof but maybe too expensive for the budget you quoted

Whatever you get, get a single shafted one. Not a 2 piece