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Title: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: noel_w on March 13, 2014, 02:38:02 PM
Daniel Morecombe's alleged killer has been found guilty.
Some closure at last for Daniel's family.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Tractor88 on March 13, 2014, 02:39:48 PM
Now lets just hope the scum never gets out, ever.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Barrabart on March 13, 2014, 03:01:38 PM
Daniel Morecombe's alleged killer has been found guilty.
Some closure at last for Daniel's family.

Not "alleged" anymore..........

Yep great news from a extremely tragic situation...... and also I hope too the scumbag never see's freedom again.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: noel_w on March 13, 2014, 03:38:57 PM
Now for the sentence to happen. Apparently the scumbag has had priors for similar things they just read out in court.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: dazzler on March 13, 2014, 03:43:09 PM

Some closure at last for Daniel's family.

Maybe.  There will be an appeal.  I was very surprised they were able to get the confession into evidence given the circumstances it was obtained under.

I think there will be some harsh times ahead.

Hopefully he will get life.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: swanny on March 13, 2014, 04:18:22 PM
BULLET.....!!!!!
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Robbo on March 13, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Did you see what this Scum has done in the past...

http://www.news.com.au/national/daniel-morcombe-trial-what-the-jury-wasnt-told-about-brett-cowan/story-e6frfkp9-1226852468671 (http://www.news.com.au/national/daniel-morcombe-trial-what-the-jury-wasnt-told-about-brett-cowan/story-e6frfkp9-1226852468671)

Even a bullet is too quick for this animal. He will get his just desserts in the Big House.. >:(
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: DropBearRacing on March 13, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
Now lets just hope the scum never gets out, ever.

 :cheers:

I bet that's what the parents of the 7 year old he sexually assaulted in 1987 and the 6 year old he sexually assault and almost killed in 1993 said.  It would be good to think that the courts would sentence in a manner that is wanted and needed by the community but unfortunately things like precedents, pre sentence reports which say he didn't get enough hugs as a kid and judges who do not live in the real world mean that sentences are never adequate.  I hope he gets life with no chance of parole as he can never be rehabilitated.

I don't know what it's like in QLD but here in NSW there hasn't been a life sentence handed down by the Supreme Court since 2010 and 190 cases. Unbelievable isn't it.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: kylarama on March 13, 2014, 04:58:55 PM
  I hope he gets life with no chance of parole as he can never be rehabilitated.

I don't know what it's like in QLD but here in NSW there hasn't been a life sentence handed down by the Supreme Court since 2010 and 190 cases. Unbelievable isn't it.

A reporter on the radio just said that a life sentence in QLD is 20 years with parole after 15!  What a joke.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: StrvnMrvn on March 13, 2014, 05:05:37 PM
The judge has to go off what has been handed down before!

This is a crap situation for the family, but that is where the defence can come back and say that what is handed down is to much!!

Oh, and I can't believe that having emphysema for the last two years has anything to do with the decision!!??

I just gave up smoking, it was my choice to smoke and also to give up!! How does that effect the decision of killing another human being!!??
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Hairs on March 13, 2014, 05:36:24 PM
Bruce and Denise Morcombe,
My thoughts are with you.
You guys have showed unbelievable strength.
Our thoughts are with you guys.
 
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: cm4x4nut on March 13, 2014, 05:39:46 PM
Guys, this thread has the possibility of going south very quickly. There are some strong emotions involved in this case and as such, please be VERY mindful of what you post if you want this to stay open.

Cheers, Craig
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: dazzler on March 13, 2014, 05:50:31 PM
Guys, this thread has the possibility of going south very quickly. There are some strong emotions involved in this case and as such, please be VERY mindful of what you post if you want this to stay open.

Cheers, Craig

Well said Craig.

It is very easy to jump up and down and scream and carry on.

My wife worked in the sexual assault unit for years.  Her take is that the vast majority of these crimes are committed by family and 'friends' and these high publicity crimes take away the focus on caring for our kids where they are likely to be hurt.

My 2c.
 
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: martyst on March 13, 2014, 06:50:23 PM

Bruce and Denise Morcombe,
My thoughts are with you.
You guys have showed unbelievable strength.
Our thoughts are with you guys.
X2



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Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Nomad on March 13, 2014, 08:13:49 PM
Just another pedo off the streets.

The Morcombes are a lovely family I have known them for a long time, prior to the event, and they finally have some sort of closure.

My deepest respect for their strength over the years and the commitment that they have made to making Daniel unforgettable and the education they have brought to Australians about these unfortunate types of beings. I could say alot more but don't want to.

RIP Daniel. Deepest thoughts to Bruce, Denise, Deano and Brad.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: wilson79 on March 13, 2014, 08:17:15 PM
Just another pedo of the streets.

The Morcombes are a lovely family I have known them for a long time, prior to the event, and they finally have some sort of closure.

My deepest respect for their strength over the years and the commitment that they have made to making Daniel unforgettable and the education they have brought to Australians about these unfortunate types of beings. I could say alot more but don't want to.

RIP Daniel. Deepest thought to Bruce, Denise, Deano and Brad.



Agreed, this is one amazing family and I wish them the best in the future...
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: muzza01 on March 13, 2014, 08:24:07 PM
Hopefully the QLD Judges get this one right. There will be he'll to pay if the sentence is short.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Shelbyright on March 13, 2014, 10:17:04 PM
Terrible situation,

I just wish they accidentally put this thing in with the general population.

Justice.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: cardinal28 on March 14, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
Its going to cost the taxpayer heaps to keep this scum alive in the 'crowbar motel'. Times like this is when Capital Punishment should be used.
The Morcombes finally get to see some justice but i'm sure they would rather have Daniel back. 
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: RLI on March 14, 2014, 01:08:48 PM

G'day folks,

Thank goodness that this evil monster is off our streets and in jail ware some inmates will be looking forward to meeting him!

PS, my condolences and deepest sympathy to the Morcombe family for there tragic loss of such a beautiful teenage son. May Daniel rest in peace and may the Morcombe family hopefully be blessed with so much love from their two other sons.

Kind regards

RLI and family
 :'(
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on March 14, 2014, 01:24:50 PM
He got life. Eligible for parole in 2034.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Robbo on March 14, 2014, 01:28:36 PM
He got life. Eligible for parole in 2034.

Hopefully he won't live long enough inside to make that parole date.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on March 14, 2014, 01:49:59 PM
Just heard on a different radio station only 15 years ???

NFI.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Mace on March 14, 2014, 02:02:32 PM
Just heard on a different radio station only 15 years ???

NFI.


Minimum for offence is 15 years. 

Justice Atkinson set 20 in this case, with recommendation that more time be considered beyond that.

"I am not of the view that you should be released in 20 years’ time ... that is not in my control."


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-20140314-34qpi.html (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-20140314-34qpi.html)
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Foo on March 14, 2014, 04:24:15 PM
Insert barbed wire and then feed him laxetts for the next 20yrs.  >:D

Foo
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Rumpig on March 14, 2014, 07:08:24 PM
Minimum for offence is 15 years. 

Justice Atkinson set 20 in this case, with recommendation that more time be considered beyond that.

"I am not of the view that you should be released in 20 years’ time ... that is not in my control."


http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-20140314-34qpi.html (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-20140314-34qpi.html)
if you read the link you'll see he also got another 3 1/2 years on top of that murder charge for indecently dealing with a child, and another 2 years for interfering with a corpse...to be served concurrently after his murder time is done.
either way, here's hoping the grub never gets released ever. he should of been locked away forever after his previous dealings with kids (and i only say that as i won't say what i really think should happen to him)

Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Mace on March 14, 2014, 07:28:37 PM
Concurrently means "at the same time"

Not after.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Bill on March 14, 2014, 07:33:06 PM
Concurrently means "at the same time"

Not after.

 :cheers:
Right you are.
But he serves the murder sentence first, and then he serves the other two sentences and they are concurrent.
Bill
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Mace on March 14, 2014, 08:49:01 PM
Not that it matters.

"The sentences are to be served concurrently with his murder sentence."


Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-20140314-34qpi.html#ixzz2vvuGZ6Fw (http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/daniel-morcombes-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-sentenced-20140314-34qpi.html#ixzz2vvuGZ6Fw)
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: krisandkev on March 15, 2014, 08:57:20 AM
Yep, they should have been accumulative.  Concurrent basically means he got nothing for the other offences as they are completed while he is doing his so called life sentence. (I don't know why they still call it a Life Sentence?)  The Judge could have made them accumulative, but not many do these days with multiple offences.   Kevin
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: dazzler on March 15, 2014, 09:04:19 AM
I really can't remember a cumulative sentence handed down for a long time. Where they have minimum sentences they should be cumulative.


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Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Robbo on March 15, 2014, 01:45:18 PM
This is what that scum has got to look foward to.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/daniel-morcombe-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-at-high-risk-of-bashing-while-in-jail/story-fnihsrf2-1226855280869 (http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/daniel-morcombe-murderer-brett-peter-cowan-at-high-risk-of-bashing-while-in-jail/story-fnihsrf2-1226855280869)

Can't see 24/7 protection lasting for 20 years.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: MarkGU on March 16, 2014, 08:13:34 PM
Just watched 60 Minutes about the Morcom Case.
To any potential or present Judges or Magistrates on Face Book............we the people are sick & tired of the softly softly approach to these animals that abuse children. If that scum had have served life for the 1st child abuse case against him then the other kids including Daniel would still be alive and well today. Once you have committed such and offense then sorry you wave ALL RIGHTS as a human being and need to be treated accordingly.
It will im sure come a time when the people will act with or without the Law and deal with these maggots!!!We really don't care if they missed out on breakfast or any other poor excuse they use as a child, they know what they are doing to these kids.
Put them away for life or pay for their funerals if parents get to them 1st!!

Time is now to put a stop to it.


sorry for the rant but as a dad who's 6 y/o daughter was seconds away from being abducted this story was very close to home. again my apology to My Swaggers. 
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: McGirr on March 16, 2014, 08:19:59 PM

Mate you don't have to apologise. These type of people make everyone sick.

Mark
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Nomad on March 16, 2014, 08:20:38 PM
Hear Hear.
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: robbo1172 on March 16, 2014, 08:24:29 PM
The Morcombe family have my complete and unreserved respect for the strength they have shown. I, on the other hand, would of done everything in my power to see Cowan set free... It would be far easier to get your hands on him on the street than behind bars (allegedly ;))

Robbo
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: V8100 on March 16, 2014, 08:25:27 PM
Just watched 60 Minutes about the Morcom Case.
To any potential or present Judges or Magistrates on Face Book............we the people are sick & tired of the softly softly approach to these animals that abuse children. If that scum had have served life for the 1st child abuse case against him then the other kids including Daniel would still be alive and well today. Once you have committed such and offense then sorry you wave ALL RIGHTS as a human being and need to be treated accordingly.
It will im sure come a time when the people will act with or without the Law and deal with these maggots!!!We really don't care if they missed out on breakfast or any other poor excuse they use as a child, they know what they are doing to these kids.
Put them away for life or pay for their funerals if parents get to them 1st!!

Time is now to put a stop to it.


sorry for the rant but as a dad who's 6 y/o daughter was seconds away from being abducted this story was very close to home. again my apology to My Swaggers.

Almost word for word what I just said to my wife..

Scum of the earth.

Eddy
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: MarkGU on March 16, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
Almost word for word what I just said to my wife..

Scum of the earth.

Eddy
cheers mate. how come if you and i and god knows how many other people think the same why on earth arnt these animals dealt with the MAXIMUM penalties?
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: V8100 on March 16, 2014, 08:35:50 PM
cheers mate. how come if you and i and god knows how many other people think the same why on earth arnt these animals dealt with the MAXIMUM penalties?

God only knows
Too much political correctness and rehabilitation crap
Once a piece of sh*t  always a piece of sh*t
Just hope they put him in general population.

Eddy
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: V8CRSA on March 16, 2014, 08:38:25 PM
These creeps don't deserve a second chance or anything,they don't deserve to draw another breath.
They give up there rights when they do these things to children.

Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Rumpig on March 16, 2014, 09:53:44 PM
Just watched 60 Minutes about the Morcom Case.
To any potential or present Judges or Magistrates on Face Book............we the people are sick & tired of the softly softly approach to these animals that abuse children. If that scum had have served life for the 1st child abuse case against him then the other kids including Daniel would still be alive and well today. Once you have committed such and offense then sorry you wave ALL RIGHTS as a human being and need to be treated accordingly.
It will im sure come a time when the people will act with or without the Law and deal with these maggots!!!We really don't care if they missed out on breakfast or any other poor excuse they use as a child, they know what they are doing to these kids.
Put them away for life or pay for their funerals if parents get to them 1st!!

Time is now to put a stop to it.


sorry for the rant but as a dad who's 6 y/o daughter was seconds away from being abducted this story was very close to home. again my apology to My Swaggers.
no need for an apology in my books, i've been saying to the misses ever since Cowan's back ground came to light after the conviction...how the hell was this guy ever allowed out on the street? it beggars belief  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: oldmate on March 17, 2014, 05:47:44 AM
Agree Mal
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Bill on March 17, 2014, 05:53:24 AM
These creeps don't deserve a second chance or anything,they don't deserve to draw another breath.
They give up there rights when they do these things to children.
Agreed whole heartedly...
Bill
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: Homer_Jay on March 17, 2014, 06:14:04 AM
Our prison system is too good for this grub. He deserves much much worse.

It makes my bloody boil these rock spiders ever see the light of day again. He will be out again in his 60s ...... That sends a shiver down my spine.

I challenge and 'do gooder' snivel libiterian to come and debate the rights of these grubs.



 
Title: Re: Cowan found Guilty
Post by: krisandkev on March 17, 2014, 08:45:54 AM
I actually think the media needs to let this go quite.  His legal team, which we would be paying for, have said they will be putting an appeal in, so it is far from over.  They must be loving all of the media attention because if they get to have a retrial they will argue that he would not get a fair trial. The media should have waited until after the appeal period at least.  Kevin