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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: DaveR on February 22, 2014, 08:50:51 AM
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Hi Swaggers
I guess many of you have these pests near by, and have wanted them gone. Is anyone taking part in catching them?
How is your suscess rate?
Did you make the Pee Gee type cage?
I am about to build my cage and take part, as I don't want these horrible things taking over the many native birds I get here.
If your not sure, Google "Indian Myna Control" and Google "Pee Gee cage".
Here are some helpful links.
http://www.indianmynaproject.com.au/sites/default/files/media/docs/PG_trap_intructions.pdf (http://www.indianmynaproject.com.au/sites/default/files/media/docs/PG_trap_intructions.pdf)
http://cvcia.org.au/common-mynas/build-a-trap/ (http://cvcia.org.au/common-mynas/build-a-trap/)
Some helpful Videos
Indian Myna Some Basic Instructions for Trap Use (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqRTmp2bZY#)
Cage trapping of Indian Myna birds (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y75LuN2mTUo#ws)
Edit bit
I forgot to add that the transport cage the lady mentions in the 2nd video is not in the drawings above, but I figure that you will figure out how to make it if you can make the 2 part cage in the drawing.
When I am done, I shall put some pics here, my 8 year old an I are doing it together......
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We have heaps that I'd like gone, that and the crows seemed to have moved in recently. What do you do with them once you have trapped them? Does throwing them into a hessian sack and in the dam still work :)
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I a, really in to killing Myna's. I always swerve to hit them when there on the side of the road. So far I have killed 0, none, nada; they are too clever and fly out of the way at the very last second.
Good luck with the trap.
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Not sure if it's still current advice, but in at least some States you could legally euthanise them by dropping the trap/cage into a wheely bin and running a pipe from you vehicle exhaust into the bin to gas them. Cold petrol engine gives best results.
http://www.yimag.org.au/assets/files/YIMeuthanasia-instructions.pdf (http://www.yimag.org.au/assets/files/YIMeuthanasia-instructions.pdf)
http://www.lanecove.nsw.gov.au/Living%20in%20the%20Area/Parks/Facilities/IndianMynaBirds-ProtocolonAnimalWelfare.htm (http://www.lanecove.nsw.gov.au/Living%20in%20the%20Area/Parks/Facilities/IndianMynaBirds-ProtocolonAnimalWelfare.htm)
http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/agriculture/pests-diseases-and-weeds/pest-animals/ag1415-indian-mynas (http://www.dpi.vic.gov.au/agriculture/pests-diseases-and-weeds/pest-animals/ag1415-indian-mynas)
http://kb.rspca.org.au/afile/140/81/ (http://kb.rspca.org.au/afile/140/81/)
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Will trade you for the Corellas we get over here in SA....
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we usually get a bloke in with a shot gun and he usually gets a few.
Peter,
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Nephew with a slug gun , missus with her .410 shotie and me sitting back with a beer , laughing at the great white hunters. :cheers:
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Nephew with a slug gun , missus with her .410 shotie and me sitting back with a beer , laughing at the great white hunters. :cheers:
:worthles:
Would love to see that!
Cheers
Disco teddy
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What do you do with them once you have trapped them? Does throwing them into a hessian sack and in the dam still work :)
Or a crab pot ;D
They do say to be humane about it as the links which Beatle gave.
What a time consuming task that is to follow the written instructions and build the twin cage as per the link I gave above. There is room for improvement in the way the instructions are written, so take your time with them.
If your thinking of building one your self, I recon, look for an old bird cage at a garage sale and modify it it, saves a few $ and a lot of time. The main thing to achieve is the method of encouraging the birds into the cage, and then to be trapped and want to go up high into the 2nd holding section. If the funnel, and valve arrangement is made so that they can't go back, it will be good.
The bait game has started, then this week when kids are at school, I shall try the cage out.
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whoops
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I'm not into trapping them but I'm right into killing them ;D.
I started eradicating them about two years ago from around my house. The neighbors have been commenting over spring/summer this year how many more native birds they have been seeing around our street. So it's working.
Go as hard as you can Dave, I say.
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We have heaps that I'd like gone, that and the crows seemed to have moved in recently. What do you do with them once you have trapped them? Does throwing them into a hessian sack and in the dam still work :)
I found a rat trap works well, saved on the sack 8)
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I'm not into trapping them but I'm right into killing them ;D.
I started eradicating them about two years ago from around my house. The neighbors have been commenting over spring/summer this year how many more native birds they have been seeing around our street. So it's working.
Go as hard as you can Dave, I say.
When we were in Sydney could easily get 5 a day. Makes a big difference over time and a lot more natives can have a chance to bread. Rats of the sky.....
Found these predators (http://www.predatorpellets.com) worked extremely well.
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Found 4 skeletons in my flue. Myna birds.
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I think it was a Bryce Courtenay novel that had the main character go out every morning in Sydney and feed then rat pellets wrapped in small peices of bread.
As far as humane deaths, the car exhaust into a container works. As said in a previous section an recently started car works best. I had the need to put down some Guinea Pigs years ago and ran a hose from the exhaust into a large vase. It did the job but the smell of the cooked animals gave it mixed feelings.
Cheers
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I'm not into trapping them but I'm right into killing them ;D.
Some of us don't have the time to sit around on the porch all day drinkin' moonshine popping off little birds with a BB gun ;D ;D . Traps are good because they keep working when you aren't there, and once you catch one the others come down to help so the trap rate goes up pretty quickly.
Be careful using poison baits if you or your neighbours have pets that might ingest the baited birds.......
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Our local noisy miners and butcher birds seem to be doing the job on flying rats but I saw some bloody starlings up the street for the first time.
too bad we can't trap and gas scrub turkeys
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Flying yabbie pot filler ,,,,,,ummmmmmmm that works >:D
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Some of us don't have the time to sit around on the porch all day drinkin' moonshine popping off little birds with a BB gun ;D ;D . Traps are good because they keep working when you aren't there, and once you catch one the others come down to help so the trap rate goes up pretty quickly.
Be careful using poison baits if you or your neighbours have pets that might ingest the baited birds.......
What's wrong with a little "shine" ????????
I agree with you in the poison. I don't use it for that very fact plus we have a family of possums living in the bush behind and owls and a whole heap of other natives. So I won't take the risk.
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I built one of those traps about 5 years ago. Bring it out every now and then and by best day was 21 in the trap.
I've got about a dozen bird boxes around the yard and they get used by Rosellas and lorakeets mostly, but also get sugar gliders and possums in them.
Everey year they get over run by Minor birds in the breeding season. I used to get up the ladder and clean out their nest as soon as I saw them using a box, but the bastards would just make a new nest in the same box.
I've found it much better now to leave them build their nest, lay their eggs and wait for them to hatch.
By the time their eggs have hatched, their breeding season is over. By disposing of the chicks in the nest, the breeding cycle is broken for that year.
I've definately noticed their numbers have declined over the years (at neast in my neighbourhood), but they will never be gone.
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We're lucky here I guess, the 1st pair any of us have seen, including the old boys over the road, have moved in area in the last 6 months.
I'll be out to get them both.
The bait on the lawn worked yesterday, so the trap will be out today I hope.
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I haven't read the links or looked at the videos but is there a chance of trapping other breeds of bird. I understand you can just let them go if you did but can you also get multiple breeds trapped at the same time.
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True, the only other native bird I am concerned about trapping is a Butcher Bird, as we have them out side singing along regularly.
We have a way of keeping an eye on things.
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I haven't read the links or looked at the videos but is there a chance of trapping other breeds of bird. I understand you can just let them go if you did but can you also get multiple breeds trapped at the same time.
Generally not.
The Minor birds are a scavange feeder and by using bait such as dry cat / dog food, the natives won't go in the trap. The only thing I've ever got other than Minor's was 1 pidgeon (but I've cought over 100 Minors over the years).
Just a tip if trapping, Minors are a bloody smart bird. They will usually have a look-out bird while the others are feeding. Only set the trap in the dark, and don't go near it during the day. If they see a person near the trap at all, they won't go near it. Do 2 or 3 days of free feeding to build their confidance, then a day of trapping, and repeat as necessary.
Also, they are a comunal bird and will generally have a commen roost tree that they all go back to at night. If you can find that tree and trap near there you will have better success
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I bought a commercial trap which was based on a bait and a spring flap. The theory was that you trap one bird and a whole lot of its mates fly down looking for company and enter the trap through a conical opening at the top, from which they can't escape.
According to the theory, you very soon have a cage full of Indian Mynahs.
Well I set the trap and caught one bird, which promptly died of fright. Then it's mate came in through the conical hole, took one look and left through said excape-proof conical hole.
I disposed of the dead bird and put the trap out for the council cleanup.
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Keith
I can't find the link at the moment, but I have read the same kind of thing about a trap as you describe, unless it was you sharing it somewhere else.
There is a video of a Pee Gee cage in someones back yard where a bird went in, out, and then back into the 1st chamber to then climb into the 2nd and join the other 4 birds from there they can't get out.
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These traps (http://mynamagnet.com.au) are supposed to work well. Check your local council as some have them for loan/rent. Same as above. Free feed for a few days.
Renno :cheers:
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That's the flash version of what I have built.
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I might have been using mine the wrong way. But it was a definite failure. It sat horizontally on the ground but did not look exactly like the ones I could see online. Maybe they've improved it.
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Here is mine, finished, following all the tree huger recommendations to the letter... ;D
It makes sense to treat the 1st one caught nicely so that it calls to the others to join in.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5535/12739208055_e7719cbf11_c.jpg)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2869/12739355283_99db64307a_c.jpg)
Didn't get my act together today, shall put it out tonight for the 1st day tomorrow.
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Apparently the tasmanian birds that look like mynas are not mynas but something native. Interesting.
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Apparently the tasmanian birds that look like mynas are not mynas but something native. Interesting.
That would be the noisy miner. Type of wattle bird, and a bit similar.
http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/species/Manorina-melanocephala (http://www.birdsinbackyards.net/species/Manorina-melanocephala)
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So much for that plan ???
I baited the ground for a few days, got them to fly in, then placed the cage, and had a key hole spying point.
We watched them going into the 1st chamber, grabbing a feed, then straight back out, several times.
So I have given it a few mods, and shall try again after a bit more baiting.
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At the inner end of the tunnel you should have several cut of wire ends, try bending them in a little so that the bird can push past them going in and they stick in when the bird try's to leave. We have caught hundreds in a similar trap and even a few in the pigs milk when the lid is left of the 44gal Drum. Barnray
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Tried that, but not enough I guess, so have bent them a bit more, and also have copied the set up and "Valve" arrangement used in this type of cage.
(http://www.pestit.com/images/mynaMagnetTrap.jpg)
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Bundy Council pay $2.00 per bird
Bundaberg Regional Council has announced that a $2 bounty would be paid for every Indian Myna which was trapped and bought into Council alive and in good condition. Council has a number of myna traps available for loan to the public as part of this latest approach, to find out how you can access these traps and get involved in the program contact a Council Land Protection Officer on 1300 883 699
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Bundy Council pay $2.00 per bird
Bundaberg Regional Council has announced that a $2 bounty would be paid for every Indian Myna which was trapped and bought into Council alive and in good condition. Council has a number of myna traps available for loan to the public as part of this latest approach, to find out how you can access these traps and get involved in the program contact a Council Land Protection Officer on 1300 883 699
I think the birds would be dead by the time I get them from Sydney to Bundaberg.
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Swagmail them to Bundy , split the return then off to the Pub :cheers:
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Finally...................... MK III Version worked.
I was outsmarted by 3 birds, can you believe it >:(
I progressively made the exit of the funnel smaller, until the 2 x big birds no longer fit. They just sent the small one in and sat on the fence standing guard.
So I changed it, made a new cage with a drop door that is triggered by the feeding tray. The door slides on Elec Conduit.
Got the cheaky Sucker.
Now to get his 2 x bigger friends......
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2697/13209433435_228e2b4d83_c.jpg)
There is still the 2 x chambers, and the funnel on the 1st part is made longer and has a right angle turn at the end, I hopt this stops them to go back out and take the micky out of me.
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Am enjoying this thread! :cup:
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I think the birds would be dead by the time I get them from Sydney to Bundaberg.
give em a map & tell them to fly8)
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So much for today's big plans.
The prisoner was to attract the other 2 in, just like they ALL say on the youtube videos.
NOT
The other 2 started to hang about at 1st light, and I though you beauty.
Then the Crows, Butcher Birds and Noisy Myna's moved in and took turns in tormenting the prisoner.
In the time being, the other 2 rats flew off to get some friends, came back with 6 more.
I then end up with 8 of the flying rodents over the road on the Old Fellas roof.
So the Noisy Myna's went over for a bit of sport, greatly out numbered and out gunned, they went it and scattered the rodents. Then resumed the torture of the Prisoner.
Had to bring this to an end.
Got some plastic, the type you would lay beneath a pebble path way, wrapped the prison cell with it and sat behind the cars.
Then a realise that I need a petrol car.
Grrrrrr
Look in both neighbours drive ways, na, no one home.
So out with the lawn mower it was.
Job done, finnaly.
Mess cleaned up, then I see my mate pulling into the drive with his crapy old V6 Magna.
Grrrr, where were ya 20 mins ago!
Can't wait to do it all again.
(Insert evil laugh)
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Look in both neighbours drive ways, na, no one home.
So out with the lawn mower it was.
Job done, finnaly.
Mess cleaned up,
Can't wait to do it all again.
(Insert evil laugh)
Blades ??? or exhaust :D
Always wondered what was an "acceptable" way to dispose of them
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That's funny.
Yes, Exhaust it was. The wife would never talk to me if it was the blades.
My preferred method is a swim, and a crab pot, but not allowed.
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Had a few native miners in the backyard but keeping a good eye for the the indian myna birds
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I got relos down your way who have not seen them either.
The noisy Miners put up a great fight with these pests, great to watch.
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This mob have had a great deal of success in Canberra http://www.indianmynaaction.org.au/ (http://www.indianmynaaction.org.au/)
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We have literaly hundreds of these bloody Indian minors around the golf course at work, would love to do a cull but the bosses are a bit sheepish when you start talking shotguns
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It's funny. Unlike others up here, we've never had a problem with the mynah birds. Maybe our cat has earned her keep. Those stinking white ibises are a huge pest though. Wish a mynah bird trap would work on them :)
I don't think I am allowed to dispose of them creatively?
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Look out lm inspired to have a go . lts a supremacy thing , am l smarter than a bird ( Shut Up The Lot Of You ;D ;D )
:cup: :cheers:
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I'll put some better pics of my cage if you like.
The drop door worked very well.
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Blades ??? or exhaust :D
i was wondering the same thing when i read
Job done, finnaly.
Mess cleaned up,
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Blades ??? or exhaust :D
Spits coffee on screen.
cheers
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I did think if I could get them to stand still long enough in the grass to run over then I wouldn't need a cage in the first place.
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A diesel exhaust will still work. If it doesn't actually poison the birds, it'll still replace the oxygen so they'll suffocate. They might choke on the soot first though ;D
This method won't work if the birds have undergone Confined Space training.