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Title: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: cyberess on November 27, 2013, 11:24:50 PM
Does anyone have any super hints or tricks for looking after the black finish on bullbars, side rails etc..

My 4wd lives in the open, and I am finding  the black finish on my bullbar, siderails and snorkel, is starting to look a bit weathered.
(http://gallery.myswag.org/gallery/d/47168-1/Black-Bullbar-fading-Finish01.jpg)
(http://gallery.myswag.org/gallery/d/47170-1/Black-Bullbar-Fading-Finish02.jpg)
(http://gallery.myswag.org/gallery/d/47172-1/Fading-Finish-Snorkle01.jpg)

now someone must know a good product or a good hint for looking after this black finish ;)

Open to all sorts of suggestions.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: nab on November 27, 2013, 11:33:44 PM
That looks more like the original paint was not that flash. I get that look after a while when I paint anything with rattle cans, like my old trailer.

Maybe some good old elbow grease and give it a good polish.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: cyberess on November 27, 2013, 11:43:17 PM
Yeah --  I have been polishing, and that does sort of work, but it's not sustainable, as the finish will start getting thin  -- actually I have found this stuff happening to me since living in Darwin, the UV up here is rather severe.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: D4D on November 28, 2013, 05:35:25 AM
Powder coat seems to do that no matter what you do, I don't know the science but it doesn't seem very UV stable. My shorty lived outside and it suffered the same problem. Maybe a coat of clear gloss would help.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Coiled on November 28, 2013, 06:10:21 AM
When talking to an ARB or TJM dealer about a bar he was ppushing the colour code over std black for this reason. What he said was if you go black you need to keep the wax up to it if you want to keep the finish.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: bushbandit on November 28, 2013, 06:16:17 AM
For any plastic use 303 Aerospace it has a SPF (Sun Prevention ) apparently developed by NASA .Similar to Amoral but alot better product.Used to be difficult to source but i think they sell it at Autobarn etc just make sure you get the right one for the plastic as there are many types in there range.

 http://www.303products.com/ (http://www.303products.com/)
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Marcus73 on November 28, 2013, 06:26:37 AM
A good polish and then a coating of something such as Opti-Coat should fix it. Max Car Care in Parap is an authorised dealer ( 89413888 ) For the record I have no affiliation with MCC, but am an authorised Opti-Coat dealer. I don't get anything out of passing on this information unless you want to come to Tassie for me to apply it ;) I am merely passing this info on as Opti-Coat is really good sh!t


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Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Whitty on November 28, 2013, 06:29:12 AM
Buy an aerosol can of cheap tyre black and try that. Will shine it up nicely but won't last too long. I use the stuff on all my plastics and steel on the outside of the car and it comes up alright. Just have to keep re-applying it once a week if you want the look all the time.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Goose on November 28, 2013, 08:11:31 AM
Powder coat seems to do that no matter what you do, I don't know the science but it doesn't seem very UV stable.

I second this. I have heard it from a full-time power-coater too.

Seem to affect black more, and it also applies to pool fences, awnings etc
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: KingBilly on November 28, 2013, 08:26:18 AM
ARB recommend applying a coat of quality wax to all their bars.  I thought, yeah, whatever, when I put all my barwork on.  Then a mate told me it really does make a difference.  So I went and bought some and took the time to apply it properly.  Wow, what a difference.  Seriously.  And the bugs just wash off with a regular wash and sponge.  Mind you it needs to be reapplied every six months or so but I am certainly converted to using wax on the barwork.  Can recommend Meguiar's "Carnauba Wax'.

For the black plastic bits, I can recommend Mother's "Naturally Black".  Works a treat.

KB

Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: DannyG on November 28, 2013, 09:15:12 AM
A good polish and then a coating of something such as Opti-Coat should fix it. Max Car Care in Parap is an authorised dealer ( 89413888 ) For the record I have no affiliation with MCC, but am an authorised Opti-Coat dealer. I don't get anything out of passing on this information unless you want to come to Tassie for me to apply it ;) I am merely passing this info on as Opti-Coat is really good sh!t


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$2 silicon spray ;D
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Marcus73 on November 28, 2013, 10:53:46 AM

$2 silicon spray ;D

Don't start swearing at me!!!


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Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Clouty on November 29, 2013, 03:54:35 AM
WD40.. Every couple of months just give it a quick wipe down.. That's for the bar work and for the snorkel I'd use armoral
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: GGV8Cruza on November 29, 2013, 04:55:40 AM
I keep mine covered in mud and dust, to reapply you head out of the city and go camping

GG
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: oldmate on November 29, 2013, 06:15:58 AM
I keep mine covered in mud and dust, to reapply you head out of the city and go camping

GG

 :cup: :cup:

The most sensible reply I have read so far.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Tractor88 on November 29, 2013, 08:18:54 AM
We use Armour All spray on the bar work and snorkel which keeps a protective layer on it all. Has worked a treat and the bars look great. Cheap too as you use it on all the interior anyway. Usually just rub over with the rag after the interior coat as there is always plenty in the rag which coats the bars anyway. Works well for us.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Jason B on November 29, 2013, 08:24:57 AM
My black bar coating has almost completely broken down (17 years young). I use the cheap $2 cans of tyre shine. It's a clear silicone spray. It makes my bar look $1,000,000 and you can't tell how bad it is. It stays a deep black and is easy to apply. I just spray it all over and then wipe of the excess with a rag. It had had no adverse effects at all.

Jas
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Marcus73 on November 29, 2013, 08:40:12 AM
La la la la.... I'm not listening. Silicone... Armour All?
Nasty nasty nasty. It's a bit like putting coconut oil on your skin and sunbathing ;)


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Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Jason B on November 29, 2013, 09:17:04 AM
La la la la.... I'm not listening. Silicone... Armour All?
Nasty nasty nasty. It's a bit like putting coconut oil on your skin and sunbathing ;)


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Only nasty when you go to repaint it mate, as if you don't get ALL of it of in prep, you end up with silicone dimples all through the finish. Grrrr.

Jas
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Beatle on November 29, 2013, 04:58:37 PM
????   All this talk about special products when there is already a specific-to-purpose product on the market.  It's called BLACK PAINT!!!!

I mix a can of gloss black quality rust paint with a can of flat (or buy a can of satin if it's available in your preferred brand) and spray it on.  It doesn't take much to remove the bar work.

I did the badly faded bar of my 60-series when I lived in Katherine and then just polished it when I polished the rest.

I used a 240V blower/painter designed for fences, so I wasted a lot of paint, but I'm sure one of those small airless sprayers would do an acceptable job.

But living Darwin and having a shiny new bar might get the car keyed......!
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: bluejay on November 29, 2013, 07:32:25 PM
Hey Beatle
Can you come up to Townsville and polish my car please the cruiser looks great!!!
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: jwb on November 29, 2013, 07:56:38 PM
sh*te, that is a VERY SWEET looking 60 !  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Beatle on November 29, 2013, 08:05:06 PM
All due to the nice shiny paint on the bullbar   ;D ;D ;D  (what you can't see is the 6.2 V8 diesel under the bonnet)

I guess it's in the same category as  s i l i c o n e, but if you are starting from an already sun-damaged paint job on the bar work, seriously consider a light cut then NU-FINISH to keep shiny for longer.  It'll help keep the bug guts at bay and kangaroos, camels, donkeys and buffalo just slide right off.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Nomad on November 29, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
Don't forget it also stops hail from dinting it as well............................. :cup:
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Beatle on November 29, 2013, 08:11:18 PM
Something else to consider is to give the barwork a coat of PENETROL using a sponge/brush/roller.  Not sure how UV resistant it is, but it might be worth testing on an inconspicous area.
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: D4D on November 29, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Don't forget it also stops hail from dinting it as well............................. :cup:

Poor old Robin, he hasn't been back since ;D
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: mcdisco on November 29, 2013, 08:39:04 PM
Just use a can of bulbar black or rollbar black paint. You can get it at autobahn. Matches pretty well
Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: cyberess on November 29, 2013, 11:49:22 PM
My bar and snorkel is not quite up to the stage of a repaint -- really just chasing ideas, just how to keep things looking good.

All this mention of $2 Silicon spray  -- can't find the $2 stuff
The cheapest at Supercheap I can see is $10 Silicone spray  --
http://search.supercheapauto.com.au/search?w=silicone%20spray (http://search.supercheapauto.com.au/search?w=silicone%20spray)
Have I got the right stuff?

O.K. last night at my favourite toy store "Bunnings"  I found Turtle Wax Super Hard Shell Car Wax  -- for $8.99
(http://gallery.myswag.org/gallery/d/47184-1/Turtlewax-Hard-Shell.jpg)
 O.K. reading the label said it does "Out Door Furniture" Hmm my bull bar a bit like out Door Furniture, this could be stuff..  Tried it out on the bar  -- applied the wax  -- the polishing cloth was a little black, the surface of the black finish was a little chalky..   Finished polishing  -- not that crash hot..  O.K. got out the tire shine cleaner spray foam stuff  -- gave that a go wiping that off  -- looking a little cleaner and shinier now  --  then re-applied the wax, not it looks good  :cup:

O.K. will have to see how it looks in a couple of days.

 :cheers:

Title: Re: Any hints on how to look after black finish on bar work?
Post by: Black Diamond on November 30, 2013, 06:48:38 AM
Mate that is one kickArse clean 60 you got there :cheers: