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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: jetcrew on October 31, 2013, 05:08:50 PM
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Ok gurus of grass,
I have a 3000m2 block all flat lawn ;D ;D
I had an L108 john deere for the pas 8 years it did 132hr in that time. I just sold it and got $1800 for it.
so I am now in the market for a new one. the JD gave me no trouble in the time I had it.
I just got a quote for the new D110 $3150 which seems pretty good can anyone recommend another brand in the price point I should also compare . Having regard for the low usage it will get and no steep hills or hard grass, or am I on the money just replacing what worked before, i note the motor is now built by JD not Briggs and stratton ?
I will get myself a poly trailer this time as well $348 from JD oh and a bull bar for $88 just It has one avail and we all know you need a bull bar on the ride-on. ;D ;D
Jet ;D
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Why did you sell the old one. At 132 hours, it wasn't even run in.
I'll turn 500 hours tomorrow (on 497.8 now) on the Husky (22/42) and it should be good for well over a 1,000 hours.
If ya happy with the JD, then stick with 'em.
Mowers are like the women, no matter how good they look and perform, they all have someone who is sick of 'em at some point in time.
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Why did you sell the old one. At 132 hours, it wasn't even run in.
8 yrs old and I figured why not move it obtain 60% re-sale value and put 40% towards an upgraded one, guy at mower shop reckons I did well.(prob cause he will get another sale) but i just figured move it on before it costs me any money and i like a few features of the new one with the hose plug on top of cutter deck to wash under the deck after mowing.
$1350 change over seemed good for 8 yrs service ;D ;D
Jet ;D
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I recently bought a D120, got $100 off and a free bullbar thrown in, lucky cos I was mowing a block today for a friend and in the long grass was a stump and I hit it pretty hard, it would have done a heap of damage to the bonnet had I not had the bullbar.
I went for the D120 cos i thought I would use the cruise control, but I don't. THe taller seat and more power is nice though.
we have a few acres to mow as well, its nice to get it all done quickly, now I am clearing areas out the front to mow as well.
I came from a 11hp greenfield so this one is luxury compared.
I use a steel tipping trailer that I bought second hand, works a treat and much better than a poly or plastic trailer.
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Why did you sell the old one. At 132 hours, it wasn't even run in.
Agreed, if it were a car it would have done the equivalent of 13200 km (at 100 kph).
No offence, IMO People need to do a reality check on what they really need to replace when, and look at end of life maintenance and replacement cycles.
Cars, 300k.
Tractors 5000 to 6000 hours
Camper trailers?....
Oh well, if you have the spare $$$ then go for it. :cheers:
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132 Hours in 8 years Gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz , lets talk about 215 hours in 10 months 19 hp Cub Cadet
hYDRO HEAL / TOE . l do believe you have ripped your self off selling the JD off . The mower shop has stitched you up a beauty there . :cheers:
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John Deere. I work on an L120, LT150 and X300, all really well built compared to the MTD that is also in the stable at work, stick with what you know.
Squeeze them though, I had a glossy Australian JD catelog that I threw out this morning with the bins that I am sure listed the D110 at $2900. Make sure it is Hydrostatic though.
You can drill two holes in the deck and put in a deck squirter for about $25, waiting o one for the L120
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John Deere. I work on an L120, LT150 and X300, all really well built
Hey, I would like to make my own deck, I know my mower is brand new but I can see it getting damaged, I have tried to level out the place as much as I can with the grader on the tractor, but I still take the mower in lots of places that I can get the tractor in..
anyway I would like to start fabricating my own deck, is it possible and have you seen many fabricated decks..
Peter,
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I have the Husky YTH2648 with a fabricated deck. I highly recommend a fabricated deck, and for my use it has been fantastic. Copes with the rocks around here well. It's a big bugger though, and won't fit on my 7x4 trailer! Would be a task to make a fabricated deck I reckon, getting spindles etc perfectly aligned etc. but give it a go.
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Yes its going to be a long term project, but I need to make stensils of the original deck before its gets dented and all knocked up..
I had a trailer half finished on my workbench last time I pulled the deck off so I didnt trace it then.
next time I rip the deck off I will have to do some drawings..
mower has only done 11hours and I already have painted the inside of the deck, and now I notice the top of the deck has a dent and the paints chipped off so will need a spot of paint already.. so I need to get a deck started.
even if I sell the first one, then make another thats better for me. ohh I am dreaming again.
Peter,
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Peter, go skip bin diving at the biggest supplier of your mower brand in the area. Local JD here had 2 decks in the bin last week when I dropped off a mower for some engine repairs, both looked rebuildable, one still had the spindles on it but had some holes in the deck. It is easier to patch up/rebuild a second old deck than build a new one. We regularly rebuild them at work as the kids tend to be a little less diligent about hitting rocks than we are.
I am going to scrounge a 38inch to rebuild for my L120 as it has a 48 on it that is a bit to wide for my yard and doen't fit on my 8x4 trailer.
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l am using a Kotota 18 HP 4wd diesel with a 36 in slasher on the ruff stuff . The little beast chugs along only if the slasher becomes a land plane dose it struggle . Recently it waded into grass that was over 1 m high , 1st cog , flat out & on it went .
Works all day on 15 L of juice , & that works for me :cheers:
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Peter, go skip bin diving at the biggest supplier of your mower brand in the area. Local JD here had 2 decks in the bin last week when I dropped off a mower for some engine repairs, both looked rebuildable, one still had the spindles on it but had some holes in the deck.
Great idea Thankyou, I might just do that.. thanks
Peter,
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Yep, go the fabricated deck, i also have one on the Husky.
May not shoot quite as good, but tougher than nails.
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Agreed, if it were a car it would have done the equivalent of 13200 km (at 100 kph).
No offence, IMO People need to do a reality check on what they really need to replace when, and look at end of life maintenance and replacement cycles.
Cars, 300k.
Tractors 5000 to 6000 hours
Camper trailers?....
Oh well, if you have the spare $$$ then go for it. :cheers:
Fair call ;D ;D ;D
I paid $2999 for it 8 years ago
It needed a service kit $80 a new belt $75 new blades $84.55 = $ 250ish
so I did not have to spend that plus got $1800 so in my pocket is $2050 I need to add $1150 and I have a new machine with 2 years warranty . get another 8 years = 131 per year in ownership.
All it would take is a $500 repair on 1 item of the unit and It would take 4 years of ownership to re-coup.
I turn my stuff over before it costs me money MRS car will go at 5 year mark (end warranty regardless of KLMS)
The only item I kept and now wish i had of sold when i could have got decent $$$ is my boat motor .. kept it an extra 2 years now it,s not worth anything to trade so i am stuck with it, will wear the hurt soon and then turn over every 5 years.
horses for courses but happy to pay $150 year in ownership for a ride on.
Some may think me crazy but I am very happy with the outcome for my $1150 outlay.
jet ;D ;D
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I used to have one of these with the standard 42 inch deck 20hp. At the beginning and the end of every wet season I removed the deck (5mins) gave it a wire brush where necessary, gave it a pressure clean, put it in the sun to dry then resprayed the deck. When I traded it in after nearly five years the sales guy commented on how the deck looked like new. My bro in law however has pretty much the same machine 1 year older than mine. He has never worried about doing the same for his deck. He has rust holes right thru his deck.
Seriously, if you look after the deck, it will last.
(http://image.nettix.fi/extra/machineimg/1180401_1180500/mowers-jonsered-1180430_b_24994f33ba801546.jpg)
Now I got one of these with a fabricated 52 inch deck 30hp.
My mowing time has been cut big time and it provides a much better cut. Yeah it chews a bit more fuel but who cares about the fuel economy of a ride on mower. I haven't bothered spraying this deck.
(http://imgc.classistatic.com/cps/poc/130906/780r1/9477k9g_27.jpeg)
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This arrived today ;D ;D ;D ;D
got a good deal with the folding stuff in hand
$3350 with mulching plug / trailer and free home delivery ;D ;D
And it now has a double YES double stubbie holder :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Jet ;D
Improvements over prev model
1, Much lighter steering looks like a new design steering rod set-up
2, quieter with blades on and off
3, under deck wash plug (plug garden hose in)
4, better access to grease nipples on deck
5, larger air filter
6, more cutter deck height adjustments
7 and the 2X can holder ;D
Thats all for now but I am very happy at this early stage
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You ever tried a cup holder out on a mower?
You'll have more drink in ya lap than lap.
Nice mower, but would look good with a set of flames painted over the front. :D
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You ever tried a cup holder out on a mower?
You'll have more drink in ya lap than lap.
My goodness Jeepers ....don't you know it's to hold the empty cans ;D ;D ;D ;D
who mows with a full can in the holder ??? ???
This is why I could never own a zero turn ..you need both arms ;D ;D
Jet :D
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I have tried the drinking while mowing, and it works fine. Yes I had a screw top, old juice container that I filled with water.
congrats on ya mower, they look great, I am loving mine..
I have been cleaning the bonnet and seat etc with MR. Sheen. it shines everything up nicely.
makes the seat a little slippery but thats fine.
I dont think the deck wash works that well but its better than nothing.
for ya 8 hour service take the deck off for practice, flip it upside down and inspect and sharpen the blades, only if ya want to.. I mainly took mine off to see where the grease nipples were, mine was covered in grass, turns out they are really easy to get to.
but only do the above if you want to.
I had to spray some lithium spray on my seat so it will adjust easier. I found it easier to put the seat all the way back everytime I get off.. But I have a stiff leg n hip problems.
I aint happy with the front wheels, the alignment is off and both front wheels point in, not happy with that and I cant see where to adjust it.
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Good call on the JD brand Jet. Just in case you want to mow a little faster, here's one you could consider. ;D ;D
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Holy crap, i just got a stiffy. ;D
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I have tried the drinking while mowing, and it works fine. Yes I had a screw top, old juice container that I filled with water.
congrats on ya mower, they look great, I am loving mine..
I have been cleaning the bonnet and seat etc with MR. Sheen. it shines everything up nicely.
makes the seat a little slippery but thats fine.
I dont think the deck wash works that well but its better than nothing.
for ya 8 hour service take the deck off for practice, flip it upside down and inspect and sharpen the blades, only if ya want to.. I mainly took mine off to see where the grease nipples were, mine was covered in grass, turns out they are really easy to get to.
but only do the above if you want to.
I had to spray some lithium spray on my seat so it will adjust easier. I found it easier to put the seat all the way back everytime I get off.. But I have a stiff leg n hip problems.
I aint happy with the front wheels, the alignment is off and both front wheels point in, not happy with that and I cant see where to adjust it.
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Thanks for all the tips mate :cup: :cup:
one of my fav improvements was the grease nipple for the deck being cut out of the plastic caps so it's easy to get too.
Agree on the front wheels I asked about this and the mechanic at JD said that the toe in is a result of the lightened steering so it is a trade off, not a biggy for me as I only do 20hrs a year :-[ :-[
but could see for others who mow for living it may be of concern, after 7 odd years on my last mower the tyres still looked new so not an issue for me personally. I do like the lighter feel to the wheel though.
So far so good the MRS had a go and really likes the feel so all good, prob only complaint i have is the aggressive cut back on the motor cover means more of the engine and wiring is exposed. Not a major one for me but if I were mowing for a living in dust etc then it would be . Just seems to be alot of stuff exposed on the r/h side. also the engine seems to hit its rev limiter easily when blade are not engaged, I had to pull the throttle back slightly when just cruising around with the little fella and the dog in the trailer. with blades engaged all good i give it full throttle.
will monitor sat the 8 hr service and seek advice then as it may just need a throttle adjustment or it is still bedding in as it has 30min of run time on it and still giving off that "I'm a new motor smell"
But as said very happy with the price I got. service took a bit of personality to massage to the right point . Ie show the guy the cash and tell him to pull his head in if he wants it. ;D ;D after that all good :cup: :cup:
jet ;D ;D
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I think I am upto about 14 hours.
if I am mowing light grass then I have the revs down, I often call it the volume lever..
did you get a free john deer cap, I ended up getting 3, me, mum and the misus. but really aint just John deere caps they have the shops details on the side..
did you get a bullbar, it saved me last week when I was mowing a friends lawn and ran into a stump in long grass at full speed, well fast enough anyway. It would have done heaps of damage to the bonnet had I not had it.
Peter,
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So I wont worry about the toein with the front wheels, its still annoying though as the little tyre pimple things have gone off the front wheels, still there on the back wheels.
thinking I need more aggressive rear tyres next winter. these ones slip lots on my hill.
or I could just file off every second row of knobies.
Peter,
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Brumbypt I worked for a mower Manufacturer building Ride on Mowers for 11 years A fabricated deck multi spindle is not easy, Your biggest hurdle is to get the grass to throw out the shute without fouling or blocking up, copy some ones design expecially with 3 rotors and note the type of blade they use as not all blades are equal when trying to move grass, the mower contractors on this forum can advise on blades.
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I was just going to copy the deck thats on it, but using thicker steel, but coppying the design and layout of everything.
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Holy crap, i just got a stiffy. ;D
Jeez you're easily satisfied! >:D
Foo
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Jeepers slow down the little blue tablets :cheers:
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I think the toe-in is to make them track straighter and not wander so easily offline over uneven ground.
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I always wondered why it has toe in, same with the old fergi tractor.
Peter,
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Toe in is for the block treads to bite on the tight turns . Little front wheels & huge rear surface area you do the math :cheers:
l managed to get 12 months out of the 15X6X6 front bags , but only just :cheers:
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Make sure you check out the FERRIS zero turn mowers, I'm in the industry and would have to say it's the best built mower i have seen in the range.
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The bil bought a flash looking Chinese ride-on with rear catcher off fleabay to mow his vacant block next door and his shack block up the Murray and spent more time tinkering with it than mowing. Belt driven thing and among other probs kept chewing belts until he found out the thing needed special 'power' belts while it was supplied with standard belts ( a bit like Chinese campers and their wheel bearings) Anyway he lost interest in the bloody thing and I've suggested he flog it and buy a hydrostatic Husqvarna with 5 yr domestic warranty (if you use their oil apparently) after getting some good lowdown here-
http://www.powerequipmentdiscounters.com.au/index.php?main_page=articlePage&artno=100 (http://www.powerequipmentdiscounters.com.au/index.php?main_page=articlePage&artno=100)
Interestingly enough as I was looking on fleabay under ride-ons it seems Husky often shares parts with John Deere and MTD so that probably tells you something important.
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After owning a Husqvarna hydrostatic lawn tractor for five years, I wouldn't buy another one. My BIL and two of my nephews also have similar Huskies. Although there is nothing wrong with the Husky, I reckon John Deere and Toro leave them for dead.
The husky is just an average mower. The second hand parts are outrageous. The genuine oil, fuel and two air filters from Husky cost more than my oil, fuel and air filter off the Cruza from Toyota.
I now own a Toro, not sure what my BIL and nephews will buy next but they have all indicated that it won't be a Husqvarna.
Each to their own.
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thats why I paid more for a John deere. living in the country I cant just pop in and buy parts every 5 mins. I want to be able to turn the key and mow the lawn..
although I am sick of sitting on it, go to start it and bugger, key is in the house.
its cut my mowing time right down. So now I have cleared more so I can mow more.
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OK I haven't had the need for a ride-on mower so don't know much about them and so far the bils experience is not encouraging. Commenters here have passed on their experiences with various equipment but it might be useful to pin down mower cut to power ratio, drive type and for what sort of task. In that regard that PED article I linked to starts out with an obvious criteria-
'1. What size block will you be mowing?
As a general rule of thumb, the larger the block you are mowing, the larger the ride on mower you will need. Larger ride on mowers with a a larger size cutting deck and faster ground speed will reduce your mowing time. As a rough guide we recommend a ride on mower with a cutting deck size of between 30" and 42" for 1, 2 and 3 acre blocks. We recommend a larger ride on mower with a cutting deck size of least 42" and above for acreage blocks larger than 3 acres.'
Now in the bils case he has one block which slopes particularly at one end but the shack block is flat and neither present rocks or stumps so presumably the twin bar blades ( are twin blades common?) should be OK re a disc and retractable blades. Must measure the cut size but it sports an 18HP Briggs and Stratton with belt drives to cutters and transmission. Now belt drives can be quite robust and offer shock protection to shafts and bearings which can prevent bent shafts, broken shaft keys and the like in a potential shock situation like a mower.
Now recall from that sizing article he probably only needs a 30" cut but I noticed 2 new Husky mowers for sale both with 19.5HP motors and the pics look similar but one has 30" cut and the other a 38" cut. Ipso facto you'd expect the 30" model to be a better buy for intermittent block mows up the river when the grass might be up 300mm or so. Fine having bigger cut for the same power if you're cutting back regularly like home, but the 30" 19.5HP seems a better bet for his particular circumstances. Also does your mower have hydrostatic drive or belt drive re performance. I ask because the bil and others might need to compare some apples with apples here and not just brand names. Also, despite the brand some may have the wrong size mower for the job as clearly there are a few important criteria to consider here.
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Now in the bils case he has one block which slopes particularly at one end but the shack block is flat and neither present rocks or stumps so presumably the twin bar blades ( are twin blades common?) should be OK re a disc and retractable blades. Must measure the cut size but it sports an 18HP Briggs and Stratton with belt drives to cutters and transmission. Now belt drives can be quite robust and offer shock protection to shafts and bearings which can prevent bent shafts, broken shaft keys and the like in a potential shock situation like a mower.
Now recall from that sizing article he probably only needs a 30" cut but I noticed 2 new Husky mowers for sale both with 19.5HP motors and the pics look similar but one has 30" cut and the other a 38" cut. Ipso facto you'd expect the 30" model to be a better buy for intermittent block mows up the river when the grass might be up 300mm or so. Fine having bigger cut for the same power if you're cutting back regularly like home, but the 30" 19.5HP seems a better bet for his particular circumstances. Also does your mower have hydrostatic drive or belt drive re performance. I ask because the bil and others might need to compare some apples with apples here and not just brand names. Also, despite the brand some may have the wrong size mower for the job as clearly there are a few important criteria to consider here.
Most hydrostatic driver lawn tractors are belt driven hydrostatics. Your BILs case is not unusual.
Husky's model number usually tells you about their machine. LTH2142 means lawn tractor, 21hp 42 deck.
Up here the grass grows faily quickly and thickly so you need the HP. I reckon I mow my lawn approx 48 times per year. In the wet season it needs to be mowed every 5-6 days.
I reckon the 30" mowers are good for 1/2 acre blocks and a 42 for 1-2 acres and a 50-60" cut for 2-4 acres and a 72" cut for above that.
My next door neighbour has a 2009 or 2010 husky with 15hp and 38 " deck. He traded in his old Cox a few years ago and really regrets buying the Husky. His mower really struggles with the thick grass. He has the same size block as I do but it takes him nearly twice as long to mow his because he has to slow down his mowing speed. His lawn has never looked as nice as mine. Not enough horses.
In you BILs case I reckon 19.5 HP with the 30" cut might suit him. So long as he has plenty of HP (20 or more) than maybe up to a 42" cut.
My family members own blocks between 1.25-1.75 acres.
These are our machines:
Husky. 2006 17hp. Koehler 42" deck 2 blades hydro/drive
Husky. 2007 21hp. Briggs/S 42" deck 2 blades hydro/drive. (now have a Toro 30hp 50" dk zero turn)
Husky. 2010. 21hp. Koehler 42" deck 2 blades hydro/drive
Husky. 2011. 21hp. 42" fabricated deck 3 blades hydro/drive
I cut my lawn yesterday afternoon. Here is a pick of the front taken this morning(still covered in dew)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/muzza01/DSCN1776_zps5c0b9e08.jpg)
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I cut my lawn yesterday afternoon. Here is a pick of the front taken this morning(still covered in dew)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/muzza01/DSCN1776_zps5c0b9e08.jpg)
Cheeky buggers in Cairns, always showing off their green grass.
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"In you BILs case I reckon 19.5 HP with the 30" cut might suit him."
I'm coming round to that point of view muzza after checking it over this arvo and also a bit or net research, not least this good overview of trans types-
http://todaysmower.com/2011/what-you-need-to-know-transmission-types/ (http://todaysmower.com/2011/what-you-need-to-know-transmission-types/)
Now his mower sports an 18.5HP Briggs Professional series engine with twin blade 40" cut and with the engine belt drive offset to one side transmission(LHS) that allows a grass shute to exit into a large catcher centrally at the rear, unlike hydraulic Tufftorq transmissions and the like. That's all very fine and I think it would work OK on that nice flat green grass you regularly mow but even with maybe 3/4acre total with his 2 blocks he's got a very tough intermittent mow problem in South Oz. Simply put in our climate it's feast or famine for our grass and let it shoot up in spring the mower won't handle it, both for slope on one block and the sheer height of grass at the shack at times. Essentially he's got a relatively small area but a very tough ask.
In that regard the Greenfield mower site warns Oz users often have different needs to so many US users and they recommend single cut 30" with reasonable HP for 'tough' grass conditions and naturally hydrostatic trans is a good choice for drive belt longevity. It's not all about the area you're mowing as he's finding with a walk behind Toro self propelled and a similar old Deutscher slasher that are up to the job but not his knees unfortunately. It's about the right balance of HP, cut and transmission for the job and you'd like to be able to take a few for a test drive in order to strike that balance but alas you pays yer money and yer take yer chances.
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Meant to say my hunch is this one or a similar spec model for his particular needs-
http://www.powerequipmentdiscounters.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=42_43&products_id=319 (http://www.powerequipmentdiscounters.com.au/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=42_43&products_id=319)
but we'll see how the China Inc one goes with proper power belts all round and the once over with the various adjustments
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My mower is needing a service, I only have Briggs n stratton oil and dont have John deere oil.
Are the motors in the 2013 D120s a John deere motor or Briggs n Stratton?
Peter,
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As long as the weights are the same they wont know,
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yeah thats similar to what I was thinking.
thanks.
Peter,
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I like my old Cox Stockman. It just eats up the thick stuff!
I made a video a long time ago when I was bored years ago when we lived in Warwick.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd6G0ipSJIQ (http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd6G0ipSJIQ)
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Gezzzzz l must be bored l just watched the Vid of somebody mowing the lawn . :'( :cheers:
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Gezzzzz l must be bored l just watched the Vid of somebody mowing the lawn . :'( :cheers:
You should go and read the bored thread
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yeah I just watched it too, once ya start watching it sucks you in and you cant stop, you cant turn it off, you have to keep watching..
why do you wear a hat if you are going to smoke, so lung cancer is ok, but skin cancer is too serious?
I can under stand the drink, that would just take away the pain on your body of your rough ground using that mower.
Peter,
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yeah I just watched it too, once ya start watching it sucks you in and you cant stop, you cant turn it off, you have to keep watching..
why do you wear a hat if you are going to smoke, so lung cancer is ok, but skin cancer is too serious?
I can under stand the drink, that would just take away the pain on your body of your rough ground using that mower.
Peter,
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I don't smoke anymore and haven't for near 4 years now. It's a terrible habit. It was all I had in the house at the time I think.
I made the vid a long time ago. I was pulled off the road when the old man had heart issues to run the fleet and it was normally full noise all day and half the night and every now and then it got really quiet, that's kinda how this video came about. I was bored!
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its actually pretty good, well done.
Peter,
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its actually pretty good, well done.
Peter,
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Cheers mate. Bit of a hobby.
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No probs, once you start watching it gets you in and have to watch it till the end..
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I just bought a Craftsman YT4000 built out of the same factory as the Husky however bigger hp. Ours has 42" cut with a Briggs & Stratton 24hp motor cuts perfectly and heaps of power.
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I just bought a Craftsman YT4000 built out of the same factory as the Husky however bigger hp. Ours has 42" cut with a Briggs & Stratton 24hp motor cuts perfectly and heaps of power.
Same here, ours has 150 hours up and going well. For the same price ($3 grand) I could get a John Deere with 17.5HP and 42" deck, the Huskie was 19.5HP and 38" deck and the Craftsman with a V-Twin Briggs and Stratton 24HP with 42" deck. A no-brainer really, made by Husquvarna the chassis, deck, blades, motors etc are the same, just the shell and accessories are different (no diff-locks for example).
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With the new house I have been offered a ride on to purchase as part of the deal. Can anyone give me some feedback on this particular model please. Its only done 50 hours on the clock, thanks.
GG
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GG, Hustlers seem all right based on what I've seen with friends who have them. American made, looks very similar to a Jacobsen (which is what I have got), again American, aimed at the commercial market. What engine is in this one? What's the deck like, as with any ride on this is where the damage will be.
As with all things it gets down to the price. Good luck.
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How much HP , petrol or diesel , cup holders & $ ??? ??? lt looks good & at 50 hours its due for a service , change the oil & filter . Really how much lawn is there to cut ???to warrant such a unit . :cup: :cheers:
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Scangauge and chip it........ ;D ;D
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With the new house I have been offered a ride on to purchase as part of the deal. Can anyone give me some feedback on this particular model please. Its only done 50 hours on the clock, thanks.
GG
I'm looking for something like that mainly that it's heavy duty if you decide not to buy it, of course better if you are in Qld.
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How much HP , petrol or diesel , cup holders & $ ??? ??? lt looks good & at 50 hours its due for a service , change the oil & filter . Really how much lawn is there to cut ???to warrant such a unit . :cup: :cheers:
Not sure of the motor Jamie, 4 acres of lawn, has cup holder, 60 inch deck. Around the $14k mark which is not bad I think, need to do some more research
GG
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.......4 acres of lawn.........
That'll keep you busy GG.
Maybe run some sheep........
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Scangauge and chip it........ ;D ;D
I did something similar to my ride on mower 1976 MTD 10HP B&S compact tractor. Fuel Injected it, ported the head, 2pk paint job, Stronger V belt pulleys, Polished grill, etc. The grass had a saw tooth effect every time you touched the throttle, if it didn't spit you off the back. The thing is crazy. Its now sitting in the shed until I decide to tame it down.
Sorry if I hijacked the thread
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That'll keep you busy GG.
Maybe run some sheep........
Next vic meet maybe, half of it is the house paddock which is good lawn, the other half is a bush block which is cleared and needs a chop every once and a while.
GG
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The Husky is a great machine. More of a professional mower than a home mower but that makes it even better.
Once you have driven a zero turn mower, you won't go back to a lawn tractor. We have just over an acre here 4500 m2 but it is mostly nice lawn not just grass. It takes me about 1 hour and 5 minutes to do the lot. I never use a whippet, I just use poison around the edges.
Here is a pic of my Toro and the back yard. It's raining here at the moment.
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/muzza01/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpse4a7bd91.jpg)
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14k......................................tell 'im he's dreaming ;D
chuck it into the house purchase for 5 k sounds about it
Nice bit of gear all the same, overkill for 4 acres i reckon, it looks to be a commercial style of unit
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Hang on a bit ,,, with 4 acres to mow GG may never see another camping trip . He will become a Turf Tender all weekend . Teach the little bloke to drive it >:D >:D >:D :cheers: What could possible go wrong ??? :laugh: :laugh:
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That should be about 24 /28 HP somewhere around that size to drive such a deck :cheers:
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14k......................................tell 'im he's dreaming ;D
chuck it into the house purchase for 5 k sounds about it
X2 re the asking price, and, yes offer 5k.
Perfect for running around your 1 acre block in under 1 hour.
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To cut that size of grass a 42in , 19 HP petrol Hydrostatic drive ride on should cost you $3500 to $4500 . Might take a bit longer to do the job , but not by that much . Somebody is " Dreaming " . Just cause you have the " Noddys " Yes l want the property , Yes it what l want , Oh Yes l will take the mower as well , & Yes l will regret it later in overkill & running costs . Your Call :cheers:
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Get a Husky like this, i saw Jeepers mowing his hedge with his the other week.. ;D ;D
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All I can say is good luck - he's taking the piss at 14k!
I have agonised over buying a ride on, as the owner of the property I bought wanted thousands for his and I couldn't see the value, so I didn't get it. and now I don't know which one to get.
I have never owned a Ride on.
Everyone's got an opinion on every mower, it's done my head in. Plus every bloody manufacturer has used multiple engine brands and all manner of trickery to create a new brand code every couple of years in all manner of hp to deck width combinations.... ???
Thinking of either a husky with diff lock (YTH something something) or a JD (D something, or STX something). But the ones I am looking at either have Kawasaki, B&S or Kohler engines -how the f... Do I compare them???
I also reckon I have read every forum from every bloke wanting a ride on, including this one. So, how the bloody hell do you work out which one to get, so that you don't regret it instantly?
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All I can say is good luck - he's taking the piss at 14k!
I have agonised over buying a ride on, as the owner of the property I bought wanted thousands for his and I couldn't see the value, so I didn't get it. and now I don't know which one to get.
I have never owned a Ride on.
Everyone's got an opinion on every mower, it's done my head in. Plus every bloody manufacturer has used multiple engine brands and all manner of trickery to create a new brand code every couple of years in all manner of hp to deck width combinations.... ???
Thinking of either a husky with diff lock (YTH something something) or a JD (D something, or STX something). But the ones I am looking at either have Kawasaki, B&S or Kohler engines -how the f... Do I compare them???
I also reckon I have read every forum from every bloke wanting a ride on, including this one. So, how the bloody hell do you work out which one to get, so that you don't regret it instantly?
The Husky, Briggs and Stratton and Kohler engines are all pretty good. They will still be running strong when the rest of the ride on wears out. I have always preferred to have a machines that are more powerful than what I really need so that I don't need to work it too hard to do the job.
My first ride on was a 20 HP twin cylinder petrol B&S with 42 inch deck lawn/yard tractor which is a bit of an overkill for a 1 acre block. The machine handled the job with ease even when the grass was pretty thick. I could have got away with a smaller machine and smaller engine but as I said earlier I reckon bigger is better.
A few years ago, I worked for a mates business for a year looking after commercial lawn maintenance. We had three ride ons, they were all zero turn mowers. Two were John Deeres, one 50 inch deck and the other one was 60 inch and we had a big diesel Kubota that had a 60 inch deck also. I mainly drove the big Kubota.
After sitting on a zero turn mower at work I found it frustrating to sit on a slow going lawn/ yard tractor especially when these tractors have the turning circle of a Landcruiser. As I said in an earlier post, once you have driven a zero turn it is hard to go back to a standard lawn/yard tractor. In the end I traded in the lawn tractor and got the zero turn. It is so much quicker and more manoeuvrable than a lawn/yard-tractor. I don't mind mowing but if I can do it 30 minutes quicker by getting a better machine then that is more time for :cheers:. I know the bigger mower chews more fuel but who cares about the fuel economy of a ride on mower.
Husky uses the letters YTH to mean yard tractor with Hydrostatic drive. LTH = lawn tractor with hydrostatic drive and CTH which means fitted with catcher. The next four numbers usually mean eg 2038 = 20 HP 38 inch deck.
Happy to help out with advice if you need help with your ride on choices MIK.
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There is another way to approach the problem . Go & buy a pre loved mower so you have a point of reference to work from . l started with a 12.5 hp 36 in cut heal/toe control Rover Rancher , drove it for 2 1/2 years commercially then my business changed so l flogged it off . lt did about 10km per hour & the job was done well even in wet long conditions it just too longer .This unit cost me $900 to start & that was a great start . Eventfully l replaced the motor with a newer as it was 91/2 seasons old .
Now my 19HP Cub Cadet Hydro 42 in deck, has done 400 hours in 18 months , at 50 km per cut its covering quit a bit of ground each cut . Cubby will turn in 30cm very handy in & around trees .
Like CTs the 1st unit you buy wont be your last . Always consider at some stage you will have to transport the unit so will it fit in your trailer or do you have to get another , more expense again . :cheers:
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Cheers for the advice. I'm going to buy 2nd hand as I would be stretching the budget too far to get a decent unit, plus I'm just not confident I wouldn't regret my choice.
I have 5 acres, mostly flat, but by no means a 'lawn' if you know what I mean. It's had horses and is a fair bit clumpy and paddock like, with a couple of challenging slopes. Plus dirt/rock/grass sections, and quite a few fences and structures to mow around.
Hence I was thinking of a diff lock model like the husky yth2242 or similar. Agre that I want bigger hp, and bigger cut width if possible - no less than 38, and preferably over 42.
These are in my 'watch list' currently - appreciate opinions on suitability for my application...
Husky yth2242 v twin - 170hrs
Jd d120 2142 - 47hrs no diff lock
Husky yth2246 intek 30hrs
Husky yth2348 intek 16hrs
Cox - all stockman models have smaller decks, same as greenfield, so have excluded. But they are cheap!
Have excluded MTD and other similar models sold at big shed stores - perception is they are not up to it over the long haul.
Budget is $3k max - I accept this isn't a lot of money to throw at a solid unit. I can find more money later for a better unit, but right now I'm stretched.
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Have you considered getting a contractor in with a tractor to flog over the ground with bigger equipment . Might be worth a call to check prices . Your time , investment in equipment , service etc have to be factored in . With 5 acres to cover you should consider a 60 in zero turn . Hang on that's how this got started
:cheers:
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I have 5 acres, mostly flat, but by no means a 'lawn' if you know what I mean. It's had horses and is a fair bit clumpy and paddock like, with a couple of challenging slopes. Plus dirt/rock/grass sections, and quite a few fences and structures to mow around.
Budget is $3k max - I accept this isn't a lot of money to throw at a solid unit. I can find more money later for a better unit, but right now I'm stretched.
I know this is not what you asked but are there no fuss grazing animals that could sort most of your grass out? ??? Maybe goats if you can't get Lamas or whatever is fashionable.
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Good point Alan, we are definitely getting a couple of sheep to run around the hilly section. Not keen on goats.
Maybe a horse as well.
If I could afford a monster zero turn, I would have one now. Luckily it's so dry (no rain for ages), the grass doesn't need mowing. So I don't need any heavy duty slashing etc. but soon I need to decide so I can start keeping the grass down before it gets to that stage.
More and more I'm thinking of a husky with diff lock. If that's rubbish, at least I haven't blown a huge sum and would look to resell to upgrade.
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Worth a look for $3500
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Massey-Ferguson-zero-turn-mower-/261429592007?pt=AU_Lawnmowers&hash=item3cde6affc7&_uhb=1 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Massey-Ferguson-zero-turn-mower-/261429592007?pt=AU_Lawnmowers&hash=item3cde6affc7&_uhb=1)
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With the new house I have been offered a ride on to purchase as part of the deal. Can anyone give me some feedback on this particular model please. Its only done 50 hours on the clock, thanks.
GG
Looks like the SuperZ HD the cricket club here has one and it is a goer, good ride as well much more comfortable than our consumer level one. They are around $18,000 new. I'd say it would do the 4 acres in an hour. The specs say 7.76 per hour at 80% efficiency. Depending on your terrain and obstacles I'd say 4 in an hour would be fair. I don't think there are many faster than it.
Actually can be had for under $16,000 new http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/springwood/lawn-mowers/hustler-31hp-60-zero-turn/1053177539 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/springwood/lawn-mowers/hustler-31hp-60-zero-turn/1053177539)
Specs page http://www.hustlerturf.com/products/Super_Z_HD_Hyperdrive (http://www.hustlerturf.com/products/Super_Z_HD_Hyperdrive)
I think if you got it under $14k you'd be doing well.
We have an entry level Cox Cruiser, no where near as comfortable or quick as the SuperZ (given it is a good $13000 less that is to be expected), but it goes alright.
Specs seemed better than the competitors with a fabricated deck, swing-back blades and importantly an adjustable seat! Seat position was rather important, I looked like a fat praying mantis on the others we tried with arms and legs everywhere. One model I couldn't have my feet on the rests and push the levers past about 50% without them hitting my knees.
They have a fairly bad website:
http://www.coxmowers.com.au/?page_id=1585 (http://www.coxmowers.com.au/?page_id=1585)
I mow this http://imgur.com/LlqncU6 (http://imgur.com/LlqncU6) (Was a poor season when they took that image, currently has nice green grass everywhere around the house and sheds)
Usually leave the spike heading north and still have to clear a few sections for rocks, stumps and various bits of metal. Only about 4500m2 (according to SIX) gets done on a regular basis and takes me a little over an hour (can do it in ~45 if I disregard the bouncing). Would take less if I didn't have all those trees to dodge and a few less fences as well. Roughly 2.4 acres per hour is its 80% efficiency calculation, so my usual is only about 40% efficient with all the tree dodging and having to drive to gates, get off and move things that I didn't find when I checked before jumping on.
Moved there about a year ago now, slowly getting it tamed. There was a bit of a mess of random rocks, stumps and rubbish in the sections around the sheds and along the road that had to be cleared before I'd take the mower in there.
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Just had a service done on my Husky YTH2648 and blown away by the cost! The special pre-season service deal of $99.00 was cool, but the cost of a new spindle, and new front and rear stabiliser bars for some reason, pushed the bill to over $400! So the advice before about getting a contractor to do the work may not be that silly when the cost of maintaining this thing is factored in plus the initial purchase cost etc....but then again I do find it strangely therapeutic tearing around our 8.5 acres on the thing. Cheers! Andrew
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........So the advice before about getting a contractor to do the work may not be that silly when the cost of maintaining this thing is factored in plus the initial purchase cost etc....
....and it would make even more sense if you factor in your time as well....
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Retro Hot Rod Mower :cup:
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A bit of an update and report. We got the Super Z tied into the sale and it has been great. Fantastic cut, fast worker and a joy to use. The manicured part of our block takes around 35 minutes to mow once a week at the moment. The paddock takes around the same time but has a lot more obstacles, the zero turn makes little work of them.
Now all I need to do is find the time to fit up the light bar and we will be set for winter mowing ;D
GG
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Now all I need to do is find the time to fit up the light bar and we will be set for winter mowing ;D
GG
Are you a masochist ;D It's not worth the hassle :'( My mower man only comes about every 3 weeks in winter
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You will be just driving around for practice in winter , spend your money on a radio/CD unit & hear bids for under the ear muffs . :cup:
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Agreed, if it were a car it would have done the equivalent of 13200 km (at 100 kph).
No offence, IMO People need to do a reality check on what they really need to replace when, and look at end of life maintenance and replacement cycles.
Cars, 300k.
Tractors 5000 to 6000 hours
Camper trailers?....
Oh well, if you have the spare $$$ then go for it. :cheers:
Everyone's circumstances are different. No way I'd keep a car 300K, if I did I'd have to pay the tax man the amount it cost me to turnover cars every 3 years & be stuck with an old car. Buy a new car every 3 years, or give the money I would have spent on new cars to the tax man? For me, that's a no brainer! Your circumstances may be different.