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Title: Only in QLD
Post by: bushrat on October 30, 2013, 03:53:55 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 30, 2013, 03:58:40 PM
They're northerners, what else would you expect....  ;D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Chris J on October 30, 2013, 04:31:26 PM
Day light saving is simple, if you want it just go to work an hour earlier.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: edz on October 30, 2013, 04:38:01 PM
OOHHHHH Dear ... WINNERS !!!  :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: rodsswag on October 30, 2013, 04:38:58 PM
Day light saving is simple, if you want it just go to work an hour earlier.

 :cup:

X2

 :cheers:

Rod.....
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Pirate_Pete on October 30, 2013, 04:56:38 PM
Doesn't it make the carpets fade   >:D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on October 30, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
OK, I'll pose the question to you southerners who are doing the mocking here.

Why do you want daylight savings if not to give you more daylight in the afternoon?

"No, I think the days are spread out evenly throughout the year anyway.  They're reasonably close." - a perfectly logical and rational statement, what's wrong with it?
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: TOPNDR on October 30, 2013, 05:50:40 PM
It's not just northerners that can't see the light for the day, westerners are just as simple!

Having spent half my life with, and half without daylight saving, I'm still an advocate for it.  What's the point of it getting light at 4:00 am in Brisbane?

When I was a kid and living with DST in Melbourne, our curtains didn't fade, the cows still gave milk, we had the same number of hours of daylight. AND, when mum put us to bed at 7:30, still daylight, we went to sleep because she'd brook no buggering about by any of the four of us.  My mum was 5', her kids range from 6'4" to 5'10", so if she could control her kids I can't aw why other parents can't.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: McGirr on October 30, 2013, 06:32:33 PM

Living in Wollongong for 35 years with daylight saving and now living in Cairns for the last 16 years, it does not worry me.

You adapt. Get up early for a walk before work, come home and still plenty of daylight to do things.

So what do most southerners do for the extra hours.

Mark
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Spada on October 30, 2013, 06:33:13 PM
Daylight savings would be great in Qld, if it was in winter when the daylight hours are shorter, and it would actually be handy having some sunshine when you get home from work, but in summer, there are already enough daylight hours in the afternoon......

And according to the results of the last referendum (ie- the entire voting population of QLD had their say AFTER TRIALING IT), it wasn't wanted in the sunshine state.

But I can understand why it would be desirable in the darker states  ;D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on October 30, 2013, 06:42:21 PM
when mum put us to bed at 7:30, still daylight, we went to sleep because she'd brook no buggering about by any of the four of us. 

Maybe kids are just smarter these days, as they realise that daylight savings is a stupid idea.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Jenko67 on October 30, 2013, 06:58:16 PM
Hhmmmm, having a go at us Qlders.... Have a look at this....
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: griz066 on October 30, 2013, 07:02:20 PM
All southerners here on holiday I suspect.  :cup: :cheers:
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Barry G on October 30, 2013, 07:04:50 PM
It's not just northerners that can't see the light for the day, westerners are just as simple!

Having spent half my life with, and half without daylight saving, I'm still an advocate for it.  What's the point of it getting light at 4:00 am in Brisbane?

When I was a kid and living with DST in Melbourne, our curtains didn't fade, the cows still gave milk, we had the same number of hours of daylight. AND, when mum put us to bed at 7:30, still daylight, we went to sleep because she'd brook no buggering about by any of the four of us.  My mum was 5', her kids range from 6'4" to 5'10", so if she could control her kids I can't aw why other parents can't.
X 200000
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: DRB120 on October 30, 2013, 07:13:49 PM

You adapt. Get up early for a walk before work, come home and still plenty of daylight to do things.

Mark

Spot on, Get up early and make the most of the day, I have plenty of friends who sleep in and lose the best few hours of each day.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: LC on October 30, 2013, 07:24:35 PM
I cant understand why you wouldn't want it!!!

Day light saving is simple, if you want it just go to work an hour earlier.

This doesn't work if you work in a service orientated industry like the banking sector where you have to be at work during certain hours of the day.


So what do most southerners do for the extra hours.

Mark

I like to go kitesurfing of an afternoon, and to do this I need the afternoon sea breeze. I cant do this in the morning. I can leave work at 1700 and know that the breeze is going to stick around until 1930 or so. Or just being able to go to the beach to have dinner with the family and have a swim, oh hang on you cant do that in cairns cause you will either get stung or eaten by a croc!!!!

I notice today that sunset in cairns is at about 1830, with DLS it would be 1930 - sounds ok to me! I suspect that on Dec 22 or 23 this might blow out to about 2015, but the twilight that far north is very short so it would then get dark very quickly.

When I lived in Tassie, the twilight lasted until 2200 which meant we could water ski until 2130.


What's the point of it getting light at 4:00 am in Brisbane?


None - would be my guess.

OK, I'll pose the question to you southerners who are doing the mocking here.

Why do you want daylight savings if not to give you more daylight in the afternoon?


That's exactly why I want it - for the reasons I have mentioned above. There things I like to do outdoors / at the beach of an afternoon / evening during summer.

My question is why do you not want the daylight ours to be at more useful time of the day, and why is DLS a stupid idea as you put it?

I do however agree that in western Queensland, if they operate on the same time zone as the east coast that DLS would be a PITA, but then maybe they should move to central time ie the same as Adelaide and Darwin, just as Broken Hill in NSW as done.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on October 30, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
My question is why do you not want the daylight ours to be at more useful time of the day, and why is DLS a stupid idea as you put it?

The closer you get to the equator the less seasonal variation you get between winter and summer, so the length of a day changes less in the north than it does in the south.  If you move the clock back in summer to give you more recreation time in the afternoon it really doesn't make much difference to those in the north as the length of the days barely change anyway.  You also have to consider the fact that close to the equator, it gets damn hot, so the only time of the day you really want to be active is in late afternoon anyway, so by moving the clock back you are giving yourself an hour that you aren't really going to use outdoors, so again it begs the question what is the point?

However, if you move the clock back in winter, it makes sense as you are compensating for the shorter day and giving yourself more time to do things in the afternoon.  But obviously that doesn't make sense to those in the south as they have quite short days during winter.

What REALLY gets on my nerve is the pompous ignorance and arrogance of the daylight saving advocates that see QLD and WA as 'backwards' and 'not with the times' as they do not have it.  Both QLD and WA have trialled daylight savings in the past and have elected to not have it.  A reasonable person with a greater than room temperature IQ would conclude that the reason why it was rejected is that people found it did not suit their lifestyle.  This concept seems to be incomprehensible to some hence the bigoted rhetoric about 'fading curtains' and 'milking cows' to try and justify their somewhat xenophobic belief.

I do understand that it is total PITA to those in the eastern states who otherwise would be on a common timezone and especially those who have to interact between QLD and NSW during this time.  The reality is that Australia is a damn big country and a one-size-fits-all solution may not be suitable in this instance.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Nomad on October 30, 2013, 08:11:45 PM
Thats the best answer I have ever read.

 :cup:

Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Mobi on October 30, 2013, 08:35:41 PM
IMO daylight saving is too long now. It's good with Canberra twilight in November to January but that's enough.

 :cheers:

Peter
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: UIZ733 on October 30, 2013, 08:54:12 PM
Not worth discussing. The little baldyheaded fella in charge right now will not listen to logic bad or good. Something to do with motorbike riders and judges............................etc.
 As for the previous mob.........they were too busy trying to look good. Either way it would upset my body clock and confuse/delay/expedite my morning bodily functions.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: dallp on October 30, 2013, 09:00:31 PM
I don't see the problem.

You lot want it. You got it.

We don't want it. We don't got it.

You care.

We don't.

We win State of Origin every year.

You don't.

Obviously a positive correlation  there.

And the reason why xxxx and Bundy Rum taste sweeter up  here.

(and we have brighter coloured curtains.)
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Moggy on October 30, 2013, 10:21:54 PM
Geez I thought we didn't have it cos it's too hard to turn the sun dial back an hour


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Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: West on October 30, 2013, 10:54:18 PM
The closer you get to the equator the less seasonal variation you get between winter and summer, so the length of a day changes less in the north than it does in the south.  If you move the clock back in summer to give you more recreation time in the afternoon it really doesn't make much difference to those in the north as the length of the days barely change anyway.  You also have to consider the fact that close to the equator, it gets damn hot, so the only time of the day you really want to be active is in late afternoon anyway, so by moving the clock back you are giving yourself an hour that you aren't really going to use outdoors, so again it begs the question what is the point?

However, if you move the clock back in winter, it makes sense as you are compensating for the shorter day and giving yourself more time to do things in the afternoon.  But obviously that doesn't make sense to those in the south as they have quite short days during winter.

What REALLY gets on my nerve is the pompous ignorance and arrogance of the daylight saving advocates that see QLD and WA as 'backwards' and 'not with the times' as they do not have it.  Both QLD and WA have trialled daylight savings in the past and have elected to not have it.  A reasonable person with a greater than room temperature IQ would conclude that the reason why it was rejected is that people found it did not suit their lifestyle.  This concept seems to be incomprehensible to some hence the bigoted rhetoric about 'fading curtains' and 'milking cows' to try and justify their somewhat xenophobic belief.

I do understand that it is total PITA to those in the eastern states who otherwise would be on a common timezone and especially those who have to interact between QLD and NSW during this time.  The reality is that Australia is a damn big country and a one-size-fits-all solution may not be suitable in this instance.

 :cup:
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: KieranR on October 30, 2013, 11:09:31 PM
I don't see the problem.

You lot want it. You got it.

We don't want it. We don't got it.

You care.

We don't.

We win State of Origin every year.

You don't.

Obviously a positive correlation  there.

And the reason why xxxx and Bundy Rum taste sweeter up  here.

(and we have brighter coloured curtains.)


 :cheers: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: KingBilly on October 30, 2013, 11:13:30 PM
Us Queenslanders reckon the sun shines out of our bums and we ain't getting up early for nobody.  Now go away and leave us alone  ;D ;D ;D

KB
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: kylarama on October 31, 2013, 05:08:59 AM
:o
(http://www.myswag.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=33268.0;attach=81235;image)


I'm not laughing that QLD doesn't have daylight savings.  I'm laughing at the above four. I'm tipping you could ask them any question and you'd get the same type of dim answer...

Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on October 31, 2013, 06:01:00 AM
I'm not laughing that QLD doesn't have daylight savings.  I'm laughing at the above four. I'm tipping you could ask them any question and you'd get the same type of dim answer...

Can you explain why they are 'dim' answers?  They look perfectly OK to me.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Robbo on October 31, 2013, 07:20:21 AM
Can you explain why they are 'dim' answers?  They look perfectly OK to me.

I think you'll find Symon, it's because they appear to be referring to the actual daylight changing when in actual fact the daylight remains the same regardless. It's the clocks that would be changing. Although i don't have a particular opinion on it either way, we did try it a while back and it was'nt all that popular and did'nt suit the majority. I think the old saying of "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" comes to mind here.  8)
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Chris J on October 31, 2013, 07:29:03 AM
To cap this daylight saving debate off why don’t we also have one time ZONE as well?
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on October 31, 2013, 07:36:19 AM
I think you'll find Symon, it's because they appear to be referring to the actual daylight changing when in actual fact the daylight remains the same regardless. It's the clocks that would be changing. Although i don't have a particular opinion on it either way, we did try it a while back and it was'nt all that popular and did'nt suit the majority. I think the old saying of "if it ain't broke then don't fix it" comes to mind here.  8)

I agree, and that's my point - states have daylight savings to 'give' them an extra hour of sunlight in the afternoon to do things.  The people highlighted are pointing out the fact that moving the clock doesn't make any sense as at Yorkeys Knob there is already enough daylight in the afternoon to do things, so moving the clock back to 'give' an extra hour doesn't have any real advantages.

The fourth person is merely pointing out the fact that there isn't much seasonal variation in the length of the day between winter and summer, so again there isn't much advantage to be gained from daylight savings.

Since the pointing out undeniable facts makes them 'dim' or the subject of ridicule I again question the motivations of those making the accusations.

To cap this daylight saving debate off why don’t we also have one time ZONE as well?

Now that's a debate worth having.  The entire country could be on one timezone.  The eastern states move their clocks back an hour, the central ones back half an hour, and WA forward an hour.  No daylight savings, everyone is on the same time for the entire year.

Wouldn't that cause some arguments.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: JGM on October 31, 2013, 07:38:15 AM
And of course the main reason why there is no daylight saving in Queensland is all the city blokes will have p*$# horns on the bus on the way to work!

Cheers
JGM
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Alan Loy on October 31, 2013, 08:13:40 AM
To cap this daylight saving debate off why don’t we also have one time ZONE as well?

Interestingly China is on one time zone (Beijing time) and it is bigger than Australia

You get some strange daylight hours out west
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Alan Loy on October 31, 2013, 08:25:47 AM
To follow up Symon, look at the difference between Darwin & Hobart (source weatherspark.com)

Darwin
The length of the day does not vary substantially over the course of the year, staying within 51 minutes of 12 hours throughout. The shortest day is June 20 with 11:24 hours of daylight; the longest day is December 21 with 12:51 hours of daylight.

Hobart
The length of the day varies significantly over the course of the year. The shortest day is June 20 with9:00 hours of daylight; the longest day is December 21 with 15:20 hours of daylight.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: muzza01 on October 31, 2013, 09:00:25 AM
 As the comments in the Cairns Post state, we simply have enough daylight.  The people whom made these comments are simply referring to the amount of daylight we have before we go to work and after we come home from work.  Obviously the whole sentence that they spoke has been trimmed down fir comment in the paper.  Now it is getting taken out of context to try and make us look stupid.

I understand why the southern states want it but we don't need it or want it here.  Southern people move up here and want to change things similar to Victoria or NSW.  If you miss it that much, just move back.

The Southern States interfere by changing the timezone why should we follow.  They call this the sunshine state for a reason.

Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: RobM on October 31, 2013, 12:52:01 PM
I can remember eating dinner at 8:00pm with the sun shining and 30+ degrees. Gee that was fun. NOT'
Might suit down south, but I too am amazed that the advocates for daylight saving think that becasue it suits them it should suit everyone.
As for doing business, well maybe the whole planet should be on the same timezone.  ???
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: McGirr on October 31, 2013, 12:57:15 PM

My 6B&S wiring lasts longer up in Cairns  because we dont have daylight saving ;D ;D

marki
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Diesel Power on October 31, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Is this the reason they want to make Nth Queensland a separate state?
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: nelso on October 31, 2013, 01:27:35 PM
A lot of comment around this in QLD refers to the extra daylight in the EVENING and people's kids won't go to sleep. No-one ever says anything about when here in SEQ the sun is up at 0415 in the middle of summer and nothing is ever said about their kids won't stay asleep. Like in most arguments, the case is put forward to suit the personal opinion.

Cairns and Townsville are a lot further west longitudinally than people realise and when considered along with the lower latitude this fits with FNQ'ers far less than us SEQ'ers.

Broken Hill works on Adelaide time and it's in NSW so REGIONALISED (as opposed to daft state line-wise) daylight saving makes far more sense.

Ultimately, it's what suits the individual - FNQ'ers dont' gain much from it, so fair call for them.

Try working virtually beachside on the NSW/QLD border and you'll soon see that 660,000 GC'ers and 70,000 Tweed Shire'ers are impacted in some form or another, especially in business.

It's the state line descriptor for daylight savings that fails every time.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Clouty on October 31, 2013, 01:50:31 PM

I understand why the southern states want it but we don't need it or want it here.  Southern people move up here and want to change things similar to Victoria or NSW.  If you miss it that much, just move back.

The Southern States interfere by changing the timezone why should we follow.  They call this the sunshine state for a reason.
Totally agree.. My wife and I moved up from NSW into QLD about 7 years ago, the first year we were here it was all about daylight savings and the government should change it to be like the southern states but 6years down the track there is no way we won't it here..  :cheers:
We'll never move back so sorry QLD your stuck with us.. Lol
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on October 31, 2013, 03:24:43 PM
Try working virtually beachside on the NSW/QLD border and you'll soon see that 660,000 GC'ers and 70,000 Tweed Shire'ers are impacted in some form or another, especially in business.

If that is the case, instead of changing the lifestyle of 20 million or so people, how about the 70,000 or so in the Tweed Shire just adopt QLD time during daylight saving, the same way as Broken Hill has done with SA time.

OH NO, WE CAN'T DO THAT, QUEENSLANDERS ARE BACKWARDS REDNECK IGNORANT TWATS WHO LIVE IN CURTAIN FADED HOUSES WHO CAN'T DISCIPLINE THEIR KIDS AND DON'T KNOW HOW TO TEACH THEIR COWS WHEN TO MILK.  WE IN THE SOUTH ARE SOOOO MUCH SMARTER THAN THEM, HOW DARE THEY SAY WHAT WE DO DOESN'T SUIT THEM, HOW STUPID ARE THAT LOT - IT WORKS HERE, IT MUST WORK FOR THEM, THEY ARE JUST TOO STUPID TO REALISE IT.  HA HA HA.






Yes I feel better now....
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2013, 03:32:51 PM
Good to see ya feelin better now...  :D

Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: krisandkev on October 31, 2013, 04:11:44 PM
Yep, it amazes me that people speak about Qld like the start of this thread yet how many southerners move up here!  If Qld is so bad, stop coming!!!!   ;) I recall when we had daylight savings and I loved it then, but now I don’t really care.  There are more important things to solve.  First should be how we can get back on the road travelling again.... ;D.  Kevin
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: TOPNDR on October 31, 2013, 06:52:27 PM
I can remember eating dinner at 8:00pm with the sun shining and 30+ degrees. Gee that was fun. NOT'
Might suit down south, but I too am amazed that the advocates for daylight saving think that becasue it suits them it should suit everyone.
As for doing business, well maybe the whole planet should be on the same timezone.  ???

And no doubt the nay-sayers are doing so because it suits them and they want to deny the advocates!
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Redcherokee on October 31, 2013, 08:13:55 PM
A lot of comment around this in QLD refers to the extra daylight in the EVENING and people's kids won't go to sleep. No-one ever says anything about when here in SEQ the sun is up at 0415 in the middle of summer and nothing is ever said about their kids won't stay asleep. Like in most arguments, the case is put forward to suit the personal opinion.

Oh, I remember that from my time in Brissie.  Neighbours kids are up just after 4am, so I have no choice but to be up then as well.  Shower, brekky, futz around, still get into work before the legal start time of 7am.  Then get in strife cause I want to leave at 3pm, but there are meetings scheduled with the southerners till 5pm.  Then when I get back home, cook and eat, feel like siting outside with a wine, but it's already dark!

I so wanted daylight savings when I lived in Brissie.

Can totally understand those from further north not liking it. But for me the lack of it really sucked.   If I retire back up there I'll be checking the neighbours don't have bl@@dy kids!


Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on October 31, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
And no doubt the nay-sayers are doing so because it suits them and they want to deny the advocates!

The difference is that they don't attack the integrity of those who have a differing opinion, with such labels as 'simple', 'dim', 'backwards', etc do they now?
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: scoot on October 31, 2013, 08:49:41 PM
Yes china being on Beijing time makes it tough in the west in the mountains. Bloody dark and cold at 9 in the morning. Imperial arrogance at its worst.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on October 31, 2013, 10:44:06 PM

I'm against DLS in any form.  Where I live doesn't really matter but Symon makes very valid observations which make perfect sense to me. 

To those who have DLS:  If my average day is 16 hours (allowing for 8 sleeping hours), and I now have to get up one hour earlier and go to sleep 1 hour earlier ... does my day still remain 16 hours?  Of course it does ... But now I'm suffering from shift workers syndrome ... I'm grumpy and jealous of anyone that doesn't have to do the same as my body clock is now out of whack.

Kit_e

P.s.  I don't have curtains ... I have block out blinds ...  The heat from the sun in early morning summer gives no chance of a sleep in anyway.

P.p.s.  We just had a record 'hot' October ... Maybe Chris Hall does have something in that article ... Or maybe he just knows how to take the piss ...
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: HEM19X on November 01, 2013, 06:00:15 AM
A chill pill is required, me thinks

I just think that it is great how a proud Queenslander [Bushrat] is able to laugh at things said by his fellow Qlders! NS Welshmen had the same silly comments when DLS was introduced many years ago!
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: dungee on November 01, 2013, 06:01:41 AM
Queenslanders, 20 years and 1 hour behind the rest of Australia.

Queenslander 1st, Australian 2nd...

 ;D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on November 01, 2013, 07:18:53 AM
Queenslanders, 20 years and 1 hour behind the rest of Australia.

Southern states, one hour ahead on the clock, but 41 years behind Queensland. ;D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Chris J on November 01, 2013, 07:35:33 AM
I think I’ll leave now!
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: chisel on November 01, 2013, 08:22:15 AM
To those who say "go to work an hour earlier" that is impossible for a large number of people due to their workplaces having standard hours, not to mention issues with school hours, public transport timetables and shops or other support services having set opening times.

Even without daylight saving Qld has a lot less evening sunlight in summer than the southern states. 

Everywhere on earth has the same total hours of sunlight across a year (avg 12 hrs per day).

I think Qld could be moved forward 1 hour for the entire year.  It would mean slightly late sunrises in winter, especially in the north/west, but nothing ridiculous.

It'll keep coming up for debate every year.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Spada on November 01, 2013, 08:56:20 AM
I start work at 5am, and finish at 1pm. allready plenty of sunshine left when I get home each day. I dont want all you other bastards out and about any earlier, otherwise I might miss out on the best camping spots  ;D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Barry G on November 01, 2013, 09:12:19 AM
To those who say "go to work an hour earlier" that is impossible for a large number of people due to their workplaces having standard hours, not to mention issues with school hours, public transport timetables and shops or other support services having set opening times.

Even without daylight saving Qld has a lot less evening sunlight in summer than the southern states. 

Everywhere on earth has the same total hours of sunlight across a year (avg 12 hrs per day).

I think Qld could be moved forward 1 hour for the entire year.  It would mean slightly late sunrises in winter, especially in the north/west, but nothing ridiculous.

It'll keep coming up for debate every year.
From what I have read hear and from speaking to a number of current / ex-pat Qldrs, it seems that the levels of opposition are greater in western and northern Queensland.  At the same time, it is the south east corner, especially those ares closest to NSW, with the higher levels of support, as well as being closest to / having greatest interaction with NSW.

ON that basis the 'Broken Hill solution' would seem a logical thing to trial - DLS, say from Toowomba to the coast and from the Sunshine Coast south.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: muzza01 on November 01, 2013, 09:21:20 AM
A lot easier for the Tweed north to the border not to adopt daylight saving.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: RobM on November 01, 2013, 09:25:37 AM
Bring on the State of North Queensland.
Down south can have daylight saving and we'll keep the money   :cup:
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: muzza01 on November 01, 2013, 09:39:52 AM
Bring on the State of North Queensland.
Down south can have daylight saving and we'll keep the money   :cup:

X 2.
So long as Cairns is the capital Rob :D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: RobM on November 01, 2013, 09:51:29 AM
X 2.
So long as Cairns is the capital Rob :D
LOL let's not go there

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Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: albany_nomads on November 01, 2013, 10:05:52 AM

Day light saving is simple, if you want it just go to work an hour earlier.

Here here so right  , if you want day light saving  start earlier simple, I've come to work 45 minutes early today so I can knock off 45 minutes earlier, that's my choice ..why should I have to  force my choice on others ... Leave the clocks alone



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Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: TOPNDR on November 01, 2013, 12:28:17 PM
I've come to work 45 minutes early today so I can knock off 45 minutes earlier, that's my choice ..why should I have to  force my choice on others ... Leave the clocks alone



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I'll try that next time I go to work.  It'll make an easy day for the Cabin Crew because we'll take off before any of the passengers have checked in.  I'm sure they'll understand that their flight departed early for the convenience of the pilot, and so sorry, no more flights until tomorrow!

Then I'll go look for another job.   :angel:

Now being more sensible, I have not yet heard a rational reason for not having daylight saving.  Curtains don't fade, there is no more daylight, and the temperature change from one hour to the next is greatest in the mornings, not mid afternoon when schools get out.  Poor little kiddies, never dun us no harm when I wuz yung.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: McGirr on November 01, 2013, 12:45:14 PM

This is like state of origin  ;

Mark
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Rodt on November 01, 2013, 12:48:30 PM
Now being more sensible, I have not yet heard a rational reason for not having daylight saving.  Curtains don't fade, there is no more daylight, and the temperature change from one hour to the next is greatest in the mornings, not mid afternoon when schools get out.  Poor little kiddies, never dun us no harm when I wuz yung.

The only rational reason that is needed is that at the present some of us are up already before 5:00am and your body clock gets used to it and by moving the clocks forward then in reality it is 4:00am which for a fair period of time usually results in not getting the same amount of sleep which in turn can lead to health issues or potentially falling asleep earlier anyway loosing any advantage. Once you get used to it then it is basically time to change back again creating the same issues in reverse.

The only argument that I have heard for it is that it is done in other states so must be good. ??? We are essentially creatures of habit and routine and I haven't heard any decent reason why we should change. Someone also said that it appears to be most strongly around Nth and West Qld. Don't kid yourselves that just because people don't comment on a forum doesn't mean that we agree with you. I would hazard a guess that it is the people who get up early that are against it moreso than the 8:00 - 9:00am starters :D

Rod
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Steffo1 on November 01, 2013, 01:01:25 PM
The "Broken Hill Solution" would just move the problem from the Qld-NSW border north. You're always going to have some poor buggers affected.
To all the naysayers about Qld, the closer to the equator, the less change in daylight hours over the year, so you time poor southerners with your fanciful notions of DST benefits can have it but why Tassie has it has got me stuffed......sunset at 8:00 o'clock & twilight for hours more!!
Forget it!
Steffo The Grumpy
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Clouty on November 01, 2013, 01:35:30 PM
This is like state of origin  ;

Mark
And we all know what happened with that score.. Don't we :'( ;D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: RobM on November 01, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
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Curtains don't fade, there is no more daylight, and the temperature change from one hour to the next is greatest in the mornings, not mid afternoon when schools get out

This maybe true, but it doesn't change the fact that it is one more hour it takes for the house to cool down to a bearable temperature after coming home from work ( not every one has the luxury of a fully air-conditioned home).

And I'm not too sure about the curtains fading as they would be closed a lot more  8)
It probably doesn't worry me as much as when we first tried it ( early 70's  I think ?? ). I seem to remember studying after dinner with full sunlight streaming in the window.
And it probably won't worry me in a year or two when I don't have to go to work, I'll do things to my time and not the clock.


Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: muzza01 on November 01, 2013, 02:39:19 PM

Now being more sensible, I have not yet heard a rational reason for not having daylight saving.  Curtains don't fade, there is no more daylight, and the temperature change from one hour to the next is greatest in the mornings, not mid afternoon when schools get out.  Poor little kiddies, never dun us no harm when I wuz yung.

I will give a rational reason,

Why try to fix something that isn't broken.
The locals don't want it. It is the southerners who move up here that want it. If they miss NSW that much they can move back there. Just because NSW have it doesn't mean it would suite us.


Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Symon on November 01, 2013, 02:43:12 PM
Now being more sensible, I have not yet heard a rational reason for not having daylight saving.  Curtains don't fade, there is no more daylight, and the temperature change from one hour to the next is greatest in the mornings, not mid afternoon when schools get out.  Poor little kiddies, never dun us no harm when I wuz yung.

You call that being sensible?

There has been plenty of rational reasons given in this thread already if you take your blinkers off.

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Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Robbo on November 01, 2013, 04:16:36 PM
Hey Guys and Gals, i have just come up with a solution to this problem. For those that want daylight saving because it gives them an extra hours playtime at the end of the day, just knock off work an hour earlier and you've got it.
For everyone else, "as you were"

That's OK, No need to thank me.. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Mace on November 01, 2013, 04:55:32 PM
I think I’ll leave now!

 ;D

Don't know why I even came back to check this thread out, hey, it works for us down south, it don't work above the Tropic of Capricorn.  FFS, who gives a shirt!  8)

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: chester ver2.0 on November 01, 2013, 05:04:08 PM
Jesus just be honest the only reason that daylight saving is not in WA is cause it would kill ARB in the summer cause they have to stay open till 1 on a Saturday
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Mace on November 01, 2013, 05:07:06 PM
Jesus just be honest the only reason that daylight saving is not in WA is cause it would kill ARB in the summer cause they have to stay open till 1 on a Saturday

Most informative answer here!
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: markpeh on November 01, 2013, 05:15:43 PM
Hhmmmm, having a go at us Qlders.... Have a look at this....

That's gold!!!
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: xcvator on November 01, 2013, 06:42:51 PM
Who said old Joe B was dead  >:D
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Nomad on November 01, 2013, 06:51:18 PM
For me I would rather have the hour in the morning.
Less wind better surf.
Less wind better fishing
Less wind better swimming with the kids

Its good to get down the beach early especially on a work day...........swim breakfast and go...the day feels much better for it.

I know these are personal reasons but they are mine and a big part of my families life.

If you are to lazy or whatever to do something before work it's your problem, not Queensland's.............maybe the cockroaches could do some extra training session and try and win an origin series

Who gives a f^ck about work and business really........................
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Moggy on November 01, 2013, 06:52:47 PM
Bring on the State of North Queensland.
Down south can have daylight saving and we'll keep the money   :cup:

X3

I'm not sure which is a more interesting forum, this one or the one on whirlpool about the nbn.

If anybody  needs some plans to a bridge, pm me & i'll forward on

 :cheers:
Moggy
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Moggy on November 01, 2013, 06:56:12 PM
Is this the reason they want to make Nth Queensland a separate state?
Clive will step up & be premier
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: bodgie on November 01, 2013, 07:13:15 PM
Doesn't it make the carpets fade   >:D

The extra daylight makes everything fade quicker.
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Homer_Jay on November 02, 2013, 06:32:06 AM
I'll try that next time I go to work.  It'll make an easy day for the Cabin Crew because we'll take off before any of the passengers have checked in.  I'm sure they'll understand that their flight departed early for the convenience of the pilot, and so sorry, no more flights until tomorrow!

Then I'll go look for another job.   :angel:

Now being more sensible, I have not yet heard a rational reason for not having daylight saving.  Curtains don't fade, there is no more daylight, and the temperature change from one hour to the next is greatest in the mornings, not mid afternoon when schools get out.  Poor little kiddies, never dun us no harm when I wuz yung.

I couldn't understand why it would bother you in your situation at all. As wouldn't your hours be all over the place anyway? Or do all flights leave at 9:00am and land at 5:00pm?

I don't see any rational reason we need it in Qld.

There is still the same amount of daylight hours in the day. Get up early and enjoy the best part of the day doing what you want!
It's a no vote for me!

But I am self employed and I only work the hours I want anyway.

Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: LC on November 18, 2013, 11:29:04 AM
Flew into Brisbane Saturday afternoon -  was really bumpy as we went over the boarder where the time zone changes. It was like going back in time!
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: rodw on November 18, 2013, 01:59:14 PM
Flew into Brisbane Saturday afternoon -  was really bumpy as we went over the boarder where the time zone changes. It was like going back in time!

So we missed with the ground to air missile? Sorry about that. Must have been close to rock the plane.  ;D ;D
Will try and do better next time. Gotta keep whinging southerners out of our sunny state!
Title: Re: Only in QLD
Post by: Rumpig on November 18, 2013, 07:15:07 PM
So we missed with the ground to air missile? Sorry about that. Must have been close to rock the plane.  ;D ;D
Will try and do better next time. Gotta keep whinging southerners out of our sunny state!
;D ;D ;D