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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nomad on October 23, 2013, 07:24:21 PM
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Hi All,
I have bitten the bullet and decided the SWMBO'ed needs a new car. The Astra is f'd It would have to be the most banged up shopping trolley I have ever seen or sat in. SWMBO'ed drives by feel and does so very quickly......................................
So I am tossing up mainly the two wheel drive versions of above.
Front runners atm are the ix35 and RAV. 29K and 31k respectively.....I haven't negotiated anything yet. Will take the Mrs out for a test drive of each on Saturday. I plan to stay at the dealers and let the salesperson go with her and she can scare the sh!te out of him.
So I thought there might be a few swaggers on here who have something like I am looking at and would love your opinions.
Cheers Nomad.
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Don't get a petrol Captiva, just my two cents. The kia dont make a bad small suv but i do like the iX35 for my money.
Take that advice/suggestions as you will.
chris
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If resale is a consideration get the Rav
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Wife has a x trail company car and loves it. Really nice to drive and plenty of room.
Eddy
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Go the Rav
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Kia Sportage
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Yeah thats my leaning............but not my decision because I won't be driving it. How do you like your Kluger swannie, I might have an angle on one of those thats about 2 years old with low k's........bit bigger than what I want though and too powerful...........seriously..........
and probably can't fit both it and the Parado in the garage at the same time......bikes surfboards etc.
Keep the thoughts coming...I really like the Vitara but its long in the tooth now.
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Mate I had a petrol Captiva for a work car a few years ago and I couldn't fault it. Can't compare to the others though as haven't had much to do with them
Rod
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How do you like your Kluger swannie, I might have an angle on one of those thats about 2 years old with low k's........bit bigger than what I want though and too powerful...........seriously..........
and probably can't fit both it and the Parado in the garage at the same time......bikes surfboards etc.
My work vehicle is a Kluger and a Kluger ain't no small SUV. They used to advertise it as having the widest rear seat on the market. Also not very fuel efficient.
KB
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Its great, plenty of power, tows well and heaps of room for the kids and camping gear. Its a company car so I don't pay for fuel but I towed the swan over 2000k's and it returned an average of just over 13litres per 100 which I though was good. my only gripe is its not a 4x4
Swannie
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I towed the swan over 2000k's and it returned an average of just over 13litres per 100
Swannie, I can only just get that when not towing.
KB
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geez KB its amazing how cars vary, Im always travelling with the BIL in his territory petrol and he returns around 16/100. Without towing I get between 10/11 litres/100.
Swannie
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Suzuki Grand Vitara.
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Diesel 2.7l SZ Territory RWD.
Just got back from Wilpena Pound and got 10.5l/100km on BP diesel on the way there. Filled up with Caltex Vortex diesel on the way home and got 10.2l/100km towing the CT.
Not a small SUV by any means, but great for towing. I get around 9.2 around town.
I was amazed at the number of small SUV's towing caravans at Wilpena. I would question how many were over their towing capacity.
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Suzuki Grand Vitara
X2
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have bitten the bullet and decided the SWMBO'ed needs a new car. The Astra is f'd It would have to be the most banged up shopping trolley I have ever seen or sat in. SWMBO'ed drives by feel and does so very quickly......................................
If she is a Shit driver why spend a fortune on a decent car? Its only going to end up a wreck again...
buy an old solid car... XD or similar and some driving lessons.
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What about a CX-5?
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We had a 2011 diesel Kia Sorento for a year. Loved the size, shape, finish but don't EVER count on Kia to back their product if you have a problem. We sold it 3 years earlier than planned due to atrocious warranty obstacles and being bounced between the dealer and customer care. They had the car back 17 times in 14 months. I gave up in the end.
I know that every make and model has a lemon somewhere but even Consumer Protection conceded that Kia have a lot to learn about backing their product.
Great reviews on the Kia Sorento and Sportage but enter with eyes open.
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Suzuki Grand Vitara
x3
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What about a CX-5?
Ok its on the list.
SUV's on:
Rav...fixed serving $170
ix35...3 fixed services for $279 then who know......every 15K. Full size alloy spare in the boot.
CX5...????
Vitara.....though I don't need a 4wd and I looked at one and they have been left behind in terms of fitout.....but the best offroader of anything that size.
xtrail.....meh maybe.
ford kuga....anyone know anything about them?........territory is to big Marschy but not a bad thought.
SUV's off
Captiva
Kia
Lost, its just time.........she can't drive a Shit heap around forever......and she would really do some damage in something like an XD. I have been promised that this one will be regularly looked after....and our kids are getting older so they aren't as messy now. And if she trashes it she'll just have to drive it until dies..... >:D >:D
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Adaptive cruise control in the Kuga is brilliant, but the bling inside is a little over the top when the lights are turned on, it looks too busy if you get my meaning. Very similar interior to the Focus. Much better than the old model which had a very bland interior
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And if she trashes it she'll just have to drive it until dies..... >:D >:D
But will the warranty have expired by then?? :D
I wouldn't be costing service costs, I'd be seeing which is cheapest so I lost the least amount of $$$... Does it have to be new?
Stateman's are cheap at the auctions...
or there is this..
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181242626649
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.Nomad about 15mths ago we went through the same exercise but was looking for a diesel. I had been impressed with the IX35 after driving a petrol 2.4 model for work for 6 months so considered one of these as they are well equiped with great warranty etc, previously i have had a new model Rav every 18mths for work before the Hyundia and they had always been the favourite but for us at the time it was still the old model with no diesel,the Ravs are a typical Toyota reliable ,simple . We have just returned from NZ where we hired a new Rav4 and did 2500km in it. The new model was quite nice to drive ,the lift up tailgate was a great improvement over previous models,it had afull size spare as does the Hyundai but the floor was raise to accomodate the spare,it was comfy averaged around 10l/100km ,typical toyota car. After our search last year we ended up with a new Mazda CX5 diesel ,which is such a nice car to drive, at the time they only came in either the 2.2 diesel or the 2lt petrol which was underwhelming compared to the diesel but they have now released a2.4 lt petrol which would be much better if a petrol is what you are after. I still think the Mazda is a better overall car with some good features but maybe a little dearer but is a great drive. We did have a fault with ours where it was off the road for 3 weeks while Mazda sorted out a problem but has been ok since and Mazda was ok to deal with also.
If you are just an entry level petrol 2wd as a runaround then i would be comparing the IX35,Rav4 and CX5 and see who comes out the cheapest overall including service intervals ,cost, warranty and also you like the most but i am tipping that you will get the Hyundai IX35 .I recently did the same exercise for the mother inlaw who wanted a new corolla size hatch back ,compare the same 3 manufacturers and overall best buy was the new Hyundai I30. Also i note that you are on the Sunny Coast ,we ended up getting a good deal on the mother inlaws car from Suncoast Hyundai at Maroochydor, but i went armed with a few brissy prices found on Carpoint to use as bait .
For me i would buy the Mazda CX5 again.
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The 1.6l petrol Kuga is gutless, the 2l turbo diesel is much better
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rags,
I will have a good look at the cx5. I do a lot of work for GP Mazda and know Joe and John very well, plus I have bought work cars off them before.
The ix35, in its special edition form, has more bells and whistle than the rav, I think but personally I think the rav is the pick, new shape, not that I necessarily like it that much, but will hold better value..........plus the usual toyota resale and I think fixed price servicing is great and a big part of the deal these days and toyota seem to win hands down in that..............
not that I would buy one but you can walk into toyota and haggle, on a camry, adn get it for around 30K, with $129 fps and get it a zero interest.....(subject to reading the fine print) I mean even if it works out at 2% its still bloody cheap motoring.
:cheers:
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We had the top of the range diesel ix35 and loved it. PLENTY of power and VERY good on fuel.
Our only complaint was the angle of the rear windows was too high for either of the kids to see out of.
We upgraded to a Pajero Exceed for the extra space and towing capacity.
Loved the ix35 though.
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Also been looking for a small suv replacement for our 2005 RAV4 Nomad.
Done a lot of research and driven most of them but getting servrely dissappointed.
Basically , I can't find a car to match let alone exceed the 2005 RAV4 - almost ready to start searching for a mint condition old RAV.
I currently drive a GU patrol and believe it not many of the new small SUV's have grown fat and less
powerful than before.
The new RAV is actually fatter than a GQ I used to have and slightly fatter than the current base model GU Patrol
(hasn't got plastic mudguards).
The IX35 looked good on paper but my first review scan showed that about 8 out of 40 had brakes redone by 30K -
but not just new linings , apparently the steel is soft and thin and most brakes couldn't evenbe machined.
I got > 100'000 out of our RAV brakes and still going.
It goes on and on - not 1 of the new ones had the cargo height loadability , nor width and most are quite long.
We help out with some older people sometimes and not one of the new cars could load there walker straight
in without folding up or laying sideways.
None had the visibility - the CX5 felt like a sub half under water.
Most didn't have the power to weight ratio - Suzuki and RAV have dropped there V6 options.
On none of them can you start car without getting in and putting foot on brake first.
Holden Trax was a fun car though if you don't mind a fair bit of engine noise and limited luggage space.
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The Vitara is the only one that will go any where :cup:.
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Well we took a RAV and an ix35 for a spin today
The Rav we drove was a higher spec 2.5litre AWD and it went like the proverbial
The ix35 we took was a lower spec and manual
The Rav was good the mrs did't like the ix35, apparently there is a new spec due out this month
Looked at the cx5 but the leg room in the back is awful and the seats in the front seem to be cut shorter to try and get more room in the back
Will persue the Rav at this stage I think........................................
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Ok its on the list.
SUV's on:
ix35...3 fixed services for $279 then who know......every 15K. Full size alloy spare in boot.
SUV's off
Captiva
Kia
Lost, its just time.........she can't drive a **** heap around forever......and she would really do some damage in something like an XD. I have been promised that this one will be regularly looked after....and our kids are getting older so they aren't as messy now. And if she trashes it she'll just have to drive it until dies..... >:D >:D
If you are keeping the Hyundai till it dies half your service intervals if you want to keep it.
My wife has a Hyundai Trajet people mover with close to 200000 km now with no major probs (touch wood). I halted the service intervals to 7500 and all the other majors like auto transmission, fuel filters etc.
Car mechanically is as good as new.
Cheers, Chris
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Suzuki grand vitara x4
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The IX35 looked good on paper but my first review scan showed that about 8 out of 40 had brakes redone by 30K -
but not just new linings , apparently the steel is soft and thin and most brakes couldn't evenbe machined.
I got > 100'000 out of our RAV brakes and still going.
That is pretty common with most new cars. Brake components ( discs) do not last like they used to. Crusiers, Pajeros are all suffering. The answers is aftermarket when required.
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Hi Nomad,
We did a similar thing to you and ended up with the iX35. First long trip yesterday (7 hours all up). Found the interior road noise VERY loud. It was weird how loud it was actually, and it was all freeway/highway driving.
All the best.
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Another with petrol/diesel models that comes to mind is the Outlander.
My SIL is in the same boat at the moment although petrol only as she reckons that filling up with diesel is too messy when dolled up for work/shops/coffee with the girls etc. & I can't argue with her there.
Both my vehicles are diesel & 90% of servo pumps are oily, messy things that will never rust.
Steve
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Thanks for that Paulo. THat put the nail in the coffin for the yundi.
Rav was ordered yesterday.............I am now taking bets on the time it takes to get its first ding.
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.............I am now taking bets on the time it takes to get its first ding.
I can lend you my wife, she won't take long to dint it :(
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Glad to be of help.
I'm not going to mention dings other than we thought Miss 5 had christened a back door last week whilst helping Mr 7 because he was coming around to her side because there was no room to open his door. Slow motion and screams of STOP were useless and Bang! straight into the Black Merc SUV parked next to it. The P plated driver hardly got her head out of her phone, we were apologising profusely and all she had to offer was "Doesn't matter. Don't worry about it". Our car survived thankfully, but I can't help but wonder what happened to the other girl when she got home and told Mum and Dad all about it!
I'm sure you'll be fine with the Rav.
All the best.
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I can lend you my wife, she won't take long to dint it :(
Ha...........my wife will destroy it before your wife even opens the door...................I think I will keep this thread going as the "laugh at the abuse this car gets" thread.
I saw the trade in sheet for the trashtra yesterday and it was a funny read.
:cheers:
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Subaru has the best driveline layout if its ever going to be used in low traction areas as the transverse transmissions on the others causes traction loss. (found this in our Rav4 that was a beauty otherwise) See here;
http://youtu.be/ooQRxlChvMw
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My wife got herself the new Captiva 5 a couple of months ago. It's a petrol/auto, and for under $30k it is a cracking little car. Has all the lairy stuff like sunroof, ipod control and bluteooth phone, cruise, parking sensors etc.
We left the 80 at home and took it for a drive to Melb for a bit of a holiday (4000k round trip). I was a bit nervous about its size (me, the wife, 4yo boy and 2yo boy), but we had plenty of room for all our gear, and only had pillows packed up above the rear seats. It has 5 year warranty, 5 year free roadside assist, and 5 year services capped at $275.
I was a bit hesitant about buying it, considering how Shit the (some) older ones were, but the longer we own it, the more we confirm that it is the right choice for us.
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Subaru has the best driveline layout if its ever going to be used in low traction areas as the transverse transmissions on the others causes traction loss. (found this in our Rav4 that was a beauty otherwise) See here;
http://youtu.be/ooQRxlChvMw
Absolutely..........I have had a WRX, GT Liberty and a couple of Forresters as work cars and agree with you entirely. I also recently helped my FIL buy a Forrester cos it was the easiest to get a wheel chair in and out.........the new Forrester was more than I wanted to spend, went like a shower of Shit and I also thought that the panels, being a lighter gauge would be a bit of a disadvantage given my wifes propensity to bump into things.
The WRX also did the odd run to teewah.................it was fun driving that thing on the beach, I tell you.
Have just been told our new car wont be delivered to the end of the month.
Cheers Nomad.
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Hi Nomad,
We did a similar thing to you and ended up with the iX35. First long trip yesterday (7 hours all up). Found the interior road noise VERY loud. It was weird how loud it was actually, and it was all freeway/highway driving.
All the best.
Ditch the Korean spec original equipment tyres ASAP. High speed running on freeways is not in their design parameters!
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Ditch the Korean spec original equipment tyres ASAP.
A lot of the newer Hyundai's actually come out with pretty good premium ya looks that aren't too bad I like the older spec tyres.