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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: BobT on October 20, 2013, 11:29:13 AM
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With the bullbar you have on your fourbie now, how often have you hit something where you might have thought, "Geez, I'm so glad I have a bullbar!"
I know this is a touchy subject with emotions involved nevertheless I ask you to be objective. There is no hidden agenda. I'm just trying to get a feel for the cost/effectiveness of bullbars. I know it greatly depends on where you live, what you do, where you drive, how you drive etc., etc. but I want to keep it simple. Thanks!
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Don't have one on my Pajero but had a TJM one fitted to my patrol when I lived out at charleville and emerald... Hit kangaroos, emus, pigs and sheep.... Saved me many times.... Don't need one in the city but if I was travelling a fair but I would certainly get another bulbar fitted..
Scott...
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I've only had one road kill with my Patrol in 10yrs and it saved my I'm guessing $2k in damage. ;D The truck I drive well lost count of the number of times I've had road kill. :o
Foo
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Once I hit a tree stump in long grass in low low that stalled the car.
The last car had plenty of scrapes from offroad that would have wrecked the standard bumper.
I've never had a big animal hit but a few small ones that would have saved some panel damage. Plus a few near miss brown pants moments.
I wouldn't be without my ARB bar on a 4wd that goes west.
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What temporal constraints would you like ?? this week, this month ??
Most people who live in western Queensland are probably collecting more roos with their vehicles than an apprentice roo shooter at the moment :)
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Haven't hit anything in 30 years of 4x4ing.....................but that's not to say it won't happen tomorrow ! I just hope it doesn't :-\
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Hit a roo the other night just down the road from home, I'm only on the outskirts of Brisbane - so glad I had the bullbar it saved my car however the roo wasn't so lucky
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With my current fourbie I would have collected about 5 roos in 4 years.
If you drive in western QLD without one I would consider you to be very game.
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It really depends if you need / want one for a lot of reasons.
The main part is protecting the front of the car from wildlife.
Do want want to mount lights, winches, aerials so they serve another purpose.
Do you do a lot of off road driving through bush as they help when you need to move off a track or make a new one.
Do you do night driving when most wildlife is about.
Every one will have their reasons for having one, its whether it suits your requirements.
Mark
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If it had included my previous 4B my answer would have been completely different.
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I'd like to see a category I've been close to hitting something as I'd reckon it would be a pretty common occurrence.
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What temporal constraints would you like ?? this week, this month ??
Most people who live in western Queensland are probably collecting more roos with their vehicles than an apprentice roo shooter at the moment :)
Isn't that the truth! On my way out to Surat this week and there was one section that had a fresh kill every 50-60mtrs and when I got out there, it was from one of the trucks in front of me. The young bloke couldn't believe his luck and said it didn't matter what he did, they just kept coming. :o He ended up hitting close to a dozen in 5Klms. :laugh:
Foo
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Isn't that the truth! On my way out to Surat this week and there was one section that had a fresh kill every 50-60mtrs and when I got out there, it was from one of the trucks in front of me. The young bloke couldn't believe his luck and said it didn't matter what he did, they just kept coming. :o He ended up hitting close to a dozen in 5Klms. :laugh:
Foo
On the bright side, the dumb roos are being culled leaving the road smart roos, if there are any, to breed. :)
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I'm up to 14 Roo's up here. Real please they bounce off the front.
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We live rural & hence the bar as my wife often drives home after dark, Also, last weekend, a 200mmx300mm piece of steel plate was flicked up off the road by the vehicle in front & hit the bull bar at 100kph. It put a fair old gouge in the steel bar. I reckon it would have gone clean through the grill & into the radiator without the bar.
Would have crapped myself if on a motorcycle or even a smaller city car.
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I'd like to see a category I've been close to hitting something as I'd reckon it would be a pretty common occurrence.
Added that option so all can vote now
GG
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trying to preserve the current vehicle but in previous vehicles esp the last old Hilux, gave it a flogging off road enjoying the hard stuff. Had fun with no damage.
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Ive had a few different bars over the years on various cars, and a quick search of this thread will unveil a myriad of opinions and suggestions.
I personally have one on my car for the off chance that I do hit something on the road.
We do a lot of outback and country travel.
I don't believe it "saves" the car, but I do hope that it at least saves my radiator and some other necessary bits to be able to limp home.
This gives me a small piece of mind. Insurance for want of a better word.
Just my reason for having one.
Hope it helps
Brian
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I've hit a crash barrier in a carpark - not a scratch. Does that count? ??? ???
Mal
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If it had included my previous 4B my answer would have been completely different.
Same here......
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What temporal constraints would you like ?? this week, this month ??
Most people who live in western Queensland are probably collecting more roos with their vehicles than an apprentice roo shooter at the moment :)
No temporal constraint, only that it be your current bullbar.
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I'd like to see a category I've been close to hitting something as I'd reckon it would be a pretty common occurrence.
Sure but a near miss hasn't anything to do with a bullbar's effectiveness. Maybe you are just a better defensive driver than most. :)
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I've hit a crash barrier in a carpark - not a scratch. Does that count? ??? ???
Mal
Why not? It went part way to paying for the bullbar.
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If it had included my previous 4B my answer would have been completely different.
No doubt but I want to keep the survey to a single bullbar. Some will have brand new bars with no hits while others will have old bars with many hits. It should even itself out... provided I don't get too many "fish stories".
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When we has the GQ had many hits and near misses. We travel to the west and the roos live in the pine plantation. It is nothing to see 70+ roos on the sidE of the road in 45 minutes. Our first mod on the Rodeo was a bullbar
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It is refreshing to see the topic of bullbars discussed in exactly the context they should, an accessory that has applications that are relevant to the vast majority of Myswag members. This speaks volumes for the caliber the myswag community! For the travelling and four wheel driving that I do with my family they are a must and have proved there worth time and time again.
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It is refreshing to see the topic of bullbars discussed in exactly the context they should, an accessory that has applications that are relevant to the vast majority of Myswag members. This speaks volumes for the caliber the myswag community! For the travelling and four wheel driving that I do with my family they are a must and have proved there worth time and time again.
Dare you to post it in the electrical section??? ;D ;D ;D
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I had a close friend many years ago while living in a rural area who fitted a bull bar to his Holden after getting a new job that took him through roo infested areas at night. He hit one a few weeks later but it cleared the bar then went through the windscreen and ended up in the back seat. Had his wife been with him she may not have survived.
I have never had one in fifty years of driving and never will. I hit a roo on the Nullarbor in 1972 and vowed never to do it again. So far a combination of reduced speeds, limiting night driving and avoiding certain roads has worked. I am not saying you don't need them, just don't let them lull you into a false sense of security. That roo through my mate's windscreen was not the only one I saw or heard about while living in the bush.
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I had a close friend many years ago while living in a rural area who fitted a bull bar to his Holden after getting a new job that took him through roo infested areas at night. He hit one a few weeks later but it cleared the bar then went through the windscreen and ended up in the back seat. Had his wife been with him she may not have survived.
I have never had one in fifty years of driving and never will. I hit a roo on the Nullarbor in 1972 and vowed never to do it again. So far a combination of reduced speeds, limiting night driving and avoiding certain roads has worked. I am not saying you don't need them, just don't let them lull you into a false sense of security. That roo through my mate's windscreen was not the only one I saw or heard about while living in the bush.
I agree, maybe he needed a bull windscreen instead.
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I lived in the heart of roo country (Rushworth central Vic) and worked shifts for 10 years and I spent many nights on the road........I hit more roos when I slowed down than I ever did travelling at the speed limit, now since I have had what some may consider excessive lighting on my 4x4 :) I have noted that with the verge well lit up, most roo's tend to head bush rather than crossing the road.
I have also heard of roos coming through windscreens, I have also heard of folks losing control when bouncing over the top of one on a dirt road.......Shit just happens, a case series of one is not really robust evidence of a trend :laugh:
A bull bar is also a mighty fine attachment point for a winch and other recovery apparatus :)
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I agree, maybe he needed a bull windscreen instead.
Could you just imagine what one of those would look like? :laugh:
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My 100 series came to me with the genuine Tojo Chrome bar on it, thankfully the missus went too quick round a corner on the dirt and ran off into a Mallee tree. What it did do was take the impact without any real under bonnet damage meaning we could carry on our merry way - thankfully now have an arb steel bar that this year knocked a couple of roos over on the Tilpa to Pooncarie section of the Darling Rd and no damage, not sure it would have been the same without either bar, and with both being many kms from home could have been an expensive exercise.
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Both my D40 and 100 series are fitted with ARB winch bars, the 100 had it already fitted and I have hit 2 roos with it, 1 on the F3/M1 at 110kms, and the other in a 100 kms zone with no damage either time. When I purchased the D40 I ordered it with the ARB bar and have already hit a roo out Gilgandera way at about 80 kms again with no damage. I will continue to put ARB bars on my 4wd's when I update them not to mention they hold my lights, winch and antennas.
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Both my D40 and 100 series are fitted with ARB winch bars, the 100 had it already fitted and I have hit 2 roos with it, 1 on the F3/M1 at 110kms, and the other in a 100 kms zone with no damage either time. When I purchased the D40 I ordered it with the ARB bar and have already hit a roo out Gilgandera way at about 80 kms again with no damage. I will continue to put ARB bars on my 4wd's when I update them not to mention they hold my lights, winch and antennas.
that's good to hear, I will only use ARB bars as well as I to have had a few close calls, this is a photo of what a six foot tall roo did to a bull bar well sort of, this happened at Burpengary, I live only a few hundred meters from were it was hit.
(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/Red_Dog_4x4/IMG_1349_zps5bb81be6.jpg) (http://s699.photobucket.com/user/Red_Dog_4x4/media/IMG_1349_zps5bb81be6.jpg.html)
You can see in this photo it has torn the tube the winch horn is welded to,
(http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv359/Red_Dog_4x4/IMG_1350_zps937d9aae.jpg) (http://s699.photobucket.com/user/Red_Dog_4x4/media/IMG_1350_zps937d9aae.jpg.html)
You can see were the roo hit