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Title: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: rockman on October 03, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
http://www.couplemate.com.au/page34.html

This should happen more often I think .
The amount of people that do not pay or drag out payment in a business is shocking .


Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: baldheadedgit on October 03, 2013, 08:55:15 PM
I like it...!   :cup:
Sure has my vote 

 :cheers:

BHG
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: 86gav on October 03, 2013, 09:01:48 PM
Love it!

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Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: muzza01 on October 03, 2013, 09:05:50 PM
I like it...!   :cup:
Sure has my vote 

 :cheers:

BHG
X2 my vote also.
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Swannie on October 03, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
Love the name and shame file
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Big Nath on October 03, 2013, 09:18:25 PM
Great idea!



Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: evolution on October 03, 2013, 09:20:48 PM
Surprising that Trackabout is on there. Don't know if Im surprised that the old jimboomba is on there or just the amount!!!!

Cheers
Evo
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: oldmate on October 03, 2013, 09:25:05 PM
Yeah good on them
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: GanG on October 03, 2013, 09:27:44 PM
Couple of well known names on there.

My 2 brothers have just lost their 17yo business due to bad debtors.........they have been done over for over $200,000 in the last 2 years with builders going bankrupt.......how does a 2 man business absorb that sort of debt and stay afloat.

They have seriously looked at the bikie option too :laugh:
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: DannyG on October 03, 2013, 09:35:40 PM
I'm not sure it's good form to put a company on there for a couple hundred dollars, I'm guessing there is two sides to that story.

Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: evolution on October 03, 2013, 09:40:50 PM
I'm not sure it's good form to put a company on there for a couple hundred dollars, I'm guessing there is two sides to that story.

Id say your probably right mate, but i can understand where they are coming from.

Cheers
Evo
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: GeoffA on October 03, 2013, 09:42:57 PM
How did they let some of the debts get so big?

Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Bird on October 03, 2013, 09:43:43 PM
Quote from: DannyG
I'm not sure it's good form to put a company on there for a couple hundred dollars, I'm guessing there is two sides to that story.

I'd say that would depend on that companies attitude towards you when you were trying to get your few hundred $$ back..

Yep, there are 2 sides to every story.
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: DannyG on October 03, 2013, 09:48:40 PM
How did they let some of the debts get so big?



The 16k one must have been a big customer? Even if they were generous and extended credit to 60 or even 90 days before stopping credit, that customer must have been quite large.

It's a lot of money to have to soak up :(
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: GanG on October 03, 2013, 09:59:12 PM
big debts from big buyers........they buy big and pay regular, you trade with them for a while and take it for granted, then all of the sudden they dont pay 1 month, you think aaaaaah its cool, they always pay its just a glitch, you ring, they make promises, blame the accounts chick, you still need their business they are a big customer, 60days hits and still no pay they are another month into you and you suddenly realise you have been screwed and its too late
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: oldmate on October 03, 2013, 10:04:21 PM
And even if it is for just a "few hundred dollars". So what!! Money is money, and if it another business/customer can't afford or doesnt want to pay their bill of a "few hundred" then I reckon that is even worse then the big accounts.  Just pay your fricking bill!!  If you have an issue with it, sort it out straight away, it only takes a phone call.  Sorry not having a go at anyone, just pisses me off when people don't pay me. I regularly have to chase people for small amounts of outstanding money, and nine times out of ten, it is the people that you know have it, that you are chasing.
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Trackabout Off Road Campers on October 03, 2013, 10:09:42 PM
It's a fantastic idea Rockman I agree however I think these concepts need to work both ways.. John Vezos, the previous owner of Trackabout went out with a bang not only owing Couplemate money but many others which goes against our grain however no more on this topic...   :police:

We were made aware that our name was on their website and after making many calls demanding to have our $234.80 order delivered or to remove our name from their website if they could not fill our order. Our order finally arrived in August this year (10 months later) and was paid for immediately upon delivery. We have since been in contact with Couplemate still with no luck, so this mater is now in the hands of our solicitor..

Not to mention during this this scenario we lent Couplemate stock to fill their customers orders due to low stock levels.... No thanks to us mentioned here though...  :-[

We would have thought after lending Couplemate stock back for an order he couldn't cover for another customer ( a good Aussie thing to do in business) that we at least would have heard back from them after the first few calls but no..

After numerous efforts we have given up on dealing with such unreliable business.. Not meaning to gripe but this may give you an idea of how accurate this name & shame concept actually is..

Dave
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: DannyG on October 03, 2013, 10:14:05 PM
And that's the other side of the story I suspected, good on ya Dave for sticking up for your name :)
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: CRW on October 03, 2013, 10:15:23 PM
As lost said, there is always 2 sides to every story as written by Trackabout Dave


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Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Trackabout Off Road Campers on October 03, 2013, 10:18:01 PM
And that's the other side of the story I suspected, good on ya Dave for sticking up for your name :)

Thanks Danny, fair enough if you do owe money mate but we have bent over backwards for this mob with no return contact/action.. Anyways, who's coming to see us at Leisurefest in Melbourne tomorrow?  :cheers:
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: evolution on October 03, 2013, 10:24:43 PM
Thanks Danny, fair enough if you do owe money mate but we have bent over backwards for this mob with no return contact/action.. Anyways, who's coming to see us at Leisurefest in Melbourne tomorrow?  :cheers:
Hence why I said I was surprised to see your name there. Good on you for going above and beyond.
On the other point, I wish I was.. but I'm stuck working. Feel free to stop for coffee/beer on the border on the way home though.  ;D

Cheers
Evo
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Trackabout Off Road Campers on October 03, 2013, 10:27:24 PM
Hence why I said I was surprised to see your name there. Good on you for going above and beyond.
On the other point, I wish I was.. but I'm stuck working. Feel free to stop for coffee/beer on the border on the way home though.  ;D

Cheers
Evo

Woohoo  :cheers: Thanks Evo!! How's your camper going mate? Looking good from the last pics..
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Brett B on October 03, 2013, 10:38:15 PM
who's coming to see us at Leisurefest in Melbourne tomorrow?  :cheers:
I did today
Good to meet Dave keep up the good work
Brett B
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Trackabout Off Road Campers on October 03, 2013, 10:44:22 PM
who's coming to see us at Leisurefest in Melbourne tomorrow?  :cheers:
I did today
Good to meet Dave keep up the good work
Brett B

Great to meet you today Brett & glad to hear all is well!! We'll be in touch soon mate! Sorry to high jack thread everyone :-*
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: dazzler on October 03, 2013, 11:16:29 PM
He can't get punitive damages for non payment.  Only what is owed.
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: baldheadedgit on October 04, 2013, 04:36:39 AM
Thanks Danny, fair enough if you do owe money mate but we have bent over backwards for this mob with no return contact/action.. Anyways, who's coming to see us at Leisurefest in Melbourne tomorrow?  :cheers:
Two sides to every story,, very true Dave, but you yourself know how hard and frustrating it can be to recover even the smallest amount of money when your a small company, then a regular customer decides he's not going to pay for what ever reason and bingo..!
I like the idea of name and shame, but, yes.... you must be 100% sure who you name.

 :cheers:

BHG
Steve
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: oldmate on October 04, 2013, 07:27:21 AM
X4 on the 2 sides to every story, and its good to hear trackabout has actually done the right thing,and it is the other guys playing hardball. That is just not fair
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: bobnrob on October 04, 2013, 11:36:11 AM
Quote
Non payment of accounts offends me, the person who extended to you credit in good faith and puts the onus onto customers who do pay, causing prices to unnecessarily rise.
Wondering if the price drops again if/when the debt(s) paid?
Highly doubtful = BS excuse!!!
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Bird on October 04, 2013, 11:49:05 AM
Quote from: baldheadedgit
Two sides to every story,, very true Dave, but you yourself know how hard and frustrating it can be to recover even the smallest amount of money when your a small company, then a regular customer decides he's not going to pay for what ever reason and bingo..!

my company has 14 days terms - your fed to the debt collectors.

but they pay on 90 day terms....
bill comes in - goes into a *do **** all* tray - no matter what date it comes in..
end of month gets put to the *action* tray
end of month gets entered into system
end of month gets paid if your lucky.

We had some work done by a 1 man show in perth, few grand of work and they are ****ing him around no end... This company has burnt so many bridges in Perth it aint funny - we cant get some Shit fixed at all as there are only 2 people in WA who do the work...

Another customer of ours over paid an account by $6000 - the girl on the phone said no problems I'll get it reversed straight away for you - finance manager lost it saying **** them we didnt forecast repaying it so no your not yet... ??? ??? ???

One for the finance gurus - how often do you *forecast* repaying money?
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Big Nath on October 04, 2013, 09:39:37 PM

It's a fantastic idea Rockman I agree however I think these concepts need to work both ways.. John Vezos, the previous owner of Trackabout went out with a bang not only owing Couplemate money but many others which goes against our grain however no more on this topic...   :police:

We were made aware that our name was on their website and after making many calls demanding to have our $234.80 order delivered or to remove our name from their website if they could not fill our order. Our order finally arrived in August this year (10 months later) and was paid for immediately upon delivery. We have since been in contact with Couplemate still with no luck, so this mater is now in the hands of our solicitor..

Not to mention during this this scenario we lent Couplemate stock to fill their customers orders due to low stock levels.... No thanks to us mentioned here though...  :-[

We would have thought after lending Couplemate stock back for an order he couldn't cover for another customer ( a good Aussie thing to do in business) that we at least would have heard back from them after the first few calls but no..

After numerous efforts we have given up on dealing with such unreliable business.. Not meaning to gripe but this may give you an idea of how accurate this name & shame concept actually is..

Dave

Likely story Dave. :-)


Ps just pulling the piss on Dave. That's all



Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: Garfish on October 06, 2013, 07:42:16 AM

Another customer of ours over paid an account by $6000 - the girl on the phone said no problems I'll get it reversed straight away for you - finance manager lost it saying **** them we didnt forecast repaying it so no your not yet... ??? ??? ???

One for the finance gurus - how often do you *forecast* repaying money?

Never, but I also don't forecast overpayments. You do for underpayments or. Non payments but not overpayments So I could return money and still hit my cash flow forecast,

^
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: GeoffA on October 06, 2013, 07:47:47 AM
.........
One for the finance gurus - how often do you *forecast* repaying money?

I'd say he wasn't going to meet his forecast, and this was his "get out of gaol" card......
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: kylarama on October 06, 2013, 07:56:27 AM
my company has 14 days terms - your fed to the debt collectors.

but they pay on 90 day terms....
bill comes in - goes into a *do **** all* tray - no matter what date it comes in..
end of month gets put to the *action* tray
end of month gets entered into system
end of month gets paid if your lucky.

We had some work done by a 1 man show in perth, few grand of work and they are ****ing him around no end... This company has burnt so many bridges in Perth it aint funny - we cant get some **** fixed at all as there are only 2 people in WA who do the work...

Another customer of ours over paid an account by $6000 - the girl on the phone said no problems I'll get it reversed straight away for you - finance manager lost it saying **** them we didnt forecast repaying it so no your not yet... ??? ??? ???

One for the finance gurus - how often do you *forecast* repaying money?

I think we work for the same company!
Title: Re: Interesting concept for non-payment for a business
Post by: 58fc chev on October 06, 2013, 08:17:42 AM
I needed to get a flexplate balanced a few years ago so took it to a local shop to get done. Every friday i stopped in to pick it up only to be told some half arsed story. Finally after 3 months it was done but had he hadn't done the invoice yet as his office girl ( his wife ) was away. No worries i said just mail it to me, which he did, for 3 months.
I figured if he could make me wait for 3 months then i could do the same, i even told him this when i did go in and settle.
I always try and spend my money locally but i only give you one chance, screw me around and i'll spend my hard earned else where.
I always pay though, no matter the circumstance.