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Title: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 11, 2013, 04:13:46 PM
I have found the quickest way to have my teenage daughters scream at me that the don't love me anymore!!!!!
Yesterday afternoon on their arrival home from school, I asked how their day was, fine they said.
I mentioned that I would be turning the router off at 4.30pm, so we can spend sometime together without having Ipods, laptops and mobile phones on.
I got the impression that it went in one ear and out the other  ;D
They walk off to their rooms down the hall way and close their doors.
At 4.30pm I go and switch off the router, tick, tick, tick,   :police:
Both doors open, with tears in their eyes they scream at me "Why did you turn off my internet"
"Pardon me, Who's internet?:
Girls, "I was talking to my friends and you had to kill our internet, I hate you, I hate you too"
Storm back into their rooms yelling that they don't want to live here anymore and they are not coming to Nymboida with us.
Fysh was sitting on the lounge just smiling to herself  8)
This is the simplest way to have your daughters tell you they Hate you   :angel:
It was a very stoney and quiet dinner and evening.
In the morning, I got big cuddles, I love you and have a lovely day dad,  ;D
Come home today, I have the internet off again,
"Dad can I message my friends?"
No girls, you have just spent 6 hours with them at school, it wait till tomorrow to tell them.
It's amazing the difference in their attitude  ;D
God I love having the power, he who has the power is KING EHEHEHEEH    :cup:
BTW, the young bloke has discovered how much fun it is to ride his bike around town, just like we did when we were kids  ;D
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Swannie on September 11, 2013, 04:17:29 PM
Brilliant.

Swannie
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: chester ver2.0 on September 11, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
Yep then they start going out till all hours coming home smelling of booze and boys with nicknames after car parts like clutch come around at all hours

You stay up all night worrying about them

Guess What........ You lost the power ;D
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 11, 2013, 04:21:30 PM
Hey Chester,
Love living in a small town of less than 1000 people.  ;D
I can see where it can back fire, but after a chat things are good.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Brij on September 11, 2013, 04:37:03 PM
My wife always says to our 3 - ".....well if you hate me I must be doing my job right!"

In our house phones etc go up on the kitchen shelf before bed. When our eldest turned 18 we all had a good day celebrating, until it came to bed time. Mr 18 says his goodnights etc and off to bed. "Don't forget to put your phone up" I says.....and then WW3 started....."I'm 18 now......I'm an adult......it's my phone, I payed for it.......you can't control me......I'm not a kid anymore.............." before storming off outside "leaving home". Eventually came back after settling down a bit.

Next few days he resorted to putting his phone up without arguement. But then I started turning the internet off when I went to bed so he couldn't use his Ipod >:D.

One night I got out of the shower and headed off to bed. Mr 18 was already in bed with the door closed. I didn't dare go in to say goodnight - never know what he might be up to :angel:.
I turn internet off and go to bed. About 10 minutes later Mr 18 comes up all lovey dovey "you didn't say goodnight dad". "Sorry son. Goodnight. See you tomorrow." He wonders off and I whisper to the dear wife "I think he came up to turn the internet back on". Sure enough a few seconds later I hear the "click click" from the adjacent study as he turned the router etc back on.

I waited a few moments until he would of vacated the room then went in and turned it off again :cheers:. He never tried it again.

Although M15 tried it one night as well. But only once.

It takes them a while to work out how dad's selective hearing works >:D

Peter 
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: chester ver2.0 on September 11, 2013, 04:40:23 PM
Hey Chester,
Love living in a small town of less than 1000 people.  ;D
I can see where it can back fire, but after a chat things are good.
 :cheers:

Yep the small town can be a help or a hinderance sometimes both
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: ozmoose on September 11, 2013, 05:27:03 PM
Love it.....

I have had to resort to similar measures at my house. I have limited the wifi to the kitchen and laundry areas to ensure the wife reamins in those zones and I get fed and clean clothes  :cup:

( I hope she doesn't see this  ???)
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: UR-50-LO on September 11, 2013, 05:37:39 PM
I wish I had of thought of that....Instead I smashed my daughters an missus Iphones. Not the smartest plan as I had to replace them!!!
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: firefox on September 11, 2013, 05:49:56 PM
Hey Hairs,
So with being on the road, the kids have all the technology however it is limited. They've just had 2 days of no ipads and no computers and Internet.

Being someone whom has lived with the Internet from it's beginnings and being around technology i get some very sad looks when i flick the switch and turn the internet off. My two have learnt to play offline games, which is why they now have technology free time.

It's funny when you do it the first 20 times and you get the evil looks and the "i don't love you anymore" but after that first 20/30 times it then actually gives the family time together.. :)...

Though there are times like right now... when the removal of technology is painful on me.. I'e were in the bush the kids have lost it and decided it's time to argue with each other and annoy everyone.. arrggghhhh why can't i bring the technology back!
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Post by: kylarama on September 11, 2013, 05:54:44 PM
Stuff turning the internet off.  That's only used to get them to the dinner table ;D

If you really want a reaction out of a 16 year old girl, remove their bedroom door as punishment, allowing miss 3 and miss 6 full access >:D
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: rossbarb on September 11, 2013, 06:00:54 PM
Hairs,
This is going back a few years, eldest son was called for dinner twice and did not move from in front of the tele, so he was warned if you don't move the cord will get cut. Ross walked in pulled a pair of pliers out of his pocket and duly cut the plug off the TV. Son wasn't to impressed but he didn't have to be called twice again.
I had trouble with a child in my class sleeping in class, he was up playing computer games at 2 in the morning ( 12 years old) I told him, that wasn't a good thing to be doing etc. mother of said boy informed me not to tell him that as she let him do it so he wouldn't be stressed. I threw my hands in the air and thought to myself am I the only one worried that this boy can't stay awake of a daytime, and can't read
Barb
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: The Bockies on September 11, 2013, 06:23:46 PM
Have a similiar story rossbarb only Brother in Law through the whole telly out the door. Called his son a few times for dinner and after being ignored once more promptly got up from the dinner table, pull the plug from the wall, kicked the screen door open and threw the (Old) TV down the steps. His wife looked on gobsmacked but it sure got the kids to the dinner table. They didn't have telly then for several months and reckoned it was the best thing that ever happened although their son was chasing the Child protection services number as he reckoned it was cruelty to children.

Cheers!
The Bockeis
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 11, 2013, 06:30:56 PM
( I hope she doesn't see this  ???)

(http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/smiley-scared.gif)

I wish I had of thought of that....Instead I smashed my daughters an missus Iphones. Not the smartest plan as I had to replace them!!!

(http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/Fall_Over_Shocked.gif)

It's funny when you do it the first 20 times and you get the evil looks and the "i don't love you anymore" but after that first 20/30 times it then actually gives the family time together.. :)...

Yep, That's the plan behind it,
(http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/thumbs%20up.gif)
When we traveled in 2011, we had soo much fun together as a family because there wasn't the external influences of the electronic gadgets.

remove their bedroom door as punishment, allowing miss 3 and miss 6 full access >:D

 :cup:  That's Gold  ;D

Son wasn't to impressed but he didn't have to be called twice again.

Sometimes it takes drastic measure to get the result we are chasing.

I had trouble with a child in my class sleeping in class, he was up playing computer games at 2 in the morning ( 12 years old) I told him, that wasn't a good thing to be doing etc. mother of said boy informed me not to tell him that as she let him do it so he wouldn't be stressed. I threw my hands in the air and thought to myself am I the only one worried that this boy can't stay awake of a daytime, and can't read
Barb

Stressed?
Sheesh, (http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/confused.gif)
It is amazing how these gadgets and the internet can change the attitude of young minds, it changes their whole persona.
They are different people when they are free of them.





Title: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Steinzy on September 11, 2013, 06:56:36 PM
My two girls aren't so worried about me turning the Internet off....but if I touch the tv when they are watching Peppa Pig it's a different story!   But they are only 2 & 3 so I have a lot to look forward to after reading this post!

Steinzy
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Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: fishfinder on September 11, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
it was only 20 minutes before reading this i followed my 14 year old daughter in to her bedroom to have a chat that i hardly see her now days i come home at 5.30 we have dinner at 6.00 and straight after dinner she is straight in her room not to surface until 7.00 the next morning and her answer was whilst chatting to her friends on facebook was "what ever".

My question is how do i turn off the internet without turning off the phone ??? it is one of those iinet bob thingy me bobs ?
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 11, 2013, 07:08:50 PM
My two girl aren't so worried about me turning the Internet off....but if I touch the tv when they are watching Peppa Pig it's a different story!   But they are only 2 & 3 so I have a lot to look forward to after reading this post!
Steinzy

Mate, You've got it all in front of ya  ;D
The telly gets hijacked for Big Brother and all the talent shows these days  >:D
And we wont mention the bloody cooking shows as well GRRRRR
 :cheers:

"what ever".

My question is how do i turn off the internet without turning off the phone ??? it is one of those iinet bob thingy me bobs ?
'What ever' is one of my pet hates too Grrr >:D
Mate have a look at a little program called, Net Watcher, Edit, I gave you a bum steer, check the link in the post below, Sorry.
A handy little gadget for watching who is using your Wifi and you can disable it temporary.
 
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: fishfinder on September 11, 2013, 07:16:47 PM

'What ever' is one of my pet hates too Grrr >:D
Mate have a look at a little program called Net Watcher (http://dw.com.com/redir?edId=3&siteId=4&oId=3000-2085_4-10205205&ontId=2085_4&spi=143444c6e750941921b6c0a90d064f42&lop=link&tag=tdw_dltext&ltype=dl_dlnow&pid=10816084&mfgId=112777&merId=112777&pguid=UjAyUgoOYJMAABQpje4AAADS&ttag=dl_dldirect&ctype=language&cval=en&destUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fdownload.cnet.com%2F3001-2085_4-10205205.html%3Fspi%3D143444c6e750941921b6c0a90d064f42%26dlm%3D0).
A handy little gadget for watching who is using your Wifi and you can disable it temporary.

thanks for the tip i will give it a go rite now - and yes "what ever " is a hate of mine as well, as soon as i hear it i straight away think of oprah winfrey and the reason i despised that show
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 11, 2013, 07:21:30 PM
Let us know how you go with that link.
It is a trail version I think, but it will give you an idea of what's out there to look for.
If it doesn't do what you want there is another program called, Wireless Network Watcher 1.67 (http://www.filecluster.com/downloads/Wireless-Network-Watcher.html)
Title: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Steinzy on September 11, 2013, 07:21:39 PM
Mate, You've got it all in front of ya  ;D
The telly gets hijacked for Big Brother and all the talent shows these days  >:D
And we wont mention the bloody cooking shows as well GRRRRR

Cooking shows sound like a reasonable excuse to suggest they cook nice meals

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Post by: Brumbypt on September 11, 2013, 07:34:27 PM
THe other day I wanted my girls to do something, cant remember what now. But they wouldnt do it.

so I took a photo of my fat belly and threatened them that if they dont do it, I would post the photo on facebook and tag them in it.

the job got done really quickly.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Lemo79 on September 11, 2013, 07:36:24 PM
We run 2 wireless routers with 2 different passwords, 1 my wife and I and the main computer is connected to, and the other that the kids are connected to. 2nd one gets turned off every evening and sometimes stays off for days. Otherwise same as every one else, no communication and they will stay up till all hours bloody chatting. Have caught miss 13 trying to turn it back on a few times, so now I disable the wifi in the settings. Boy were we loved for a while. But now that's just how it is.

Lemo
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 11, 2013, 07:45:21 PM
Hey Lemo,
That's a great idea having two routers.
Might just do that.
Besides, it's handy to have one as a backup in case one dies.
Cheers for the heads up.

 :cheers:
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Post by: woolgoolgaoffroad on September 11, 2013, 07:54:49 PM
welcome to my house..
I had my 15 year old beautiful daughter move in with me this year and from what you have described sounds like our daily routine !!
I suppose it doesn't help that I stir her constantly.... love it !! ( except when my usage gets all used up and it slows down to near dial up speed )
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 11, 2013, 08:04:40 PM
It certainly is a wild ride with girls at 13 & near 15, the young bloke at 11, get caught up in the crossfire between them and us, poor buggar.
And yet at times when we do get a chance to sit down and share what our days have brought us it can be very rewarding and they can make me very proud of them  ;D
Title: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Socks on September 11, 2013, 08:15:06 PM
My son was banned from all electronics several years back for 4 weeks initially. Each time he mucked up the ban was increased. He could also earn days back for good behaviour. In the end the ban went for 7 weeks and by the end of it he was a different kid. He was 8 at the time. Nowadays his screen time is limited to 1/2 on weekdays on 2 hours on weekend days. Makes a huge difference to his behaviour


We run 2 wireless routers with 2 different passwords, 1 my wife and I and the main computer is connected to, and the other that the kids are connected to. 2nd one gets turned off every evening and sometimes stays off for days

Great idea!!

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Post by: MarkandLea on September 11, 2013, 08:15:58 PM
I like the 2 router idea. Never thought of that as a option before. The KISS principle.
I use one of these http://www.fritzbox.com.au/product-fritz-wlan7390.html (http://www.fritzbox.com.au/product-fritz-wlan7390.html) animals.
Can be setup to even block any web site you select.  >:D
I am still in trouble for doing a test one day and blocking facebook ;D
Title: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Ynot on September 11, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
I use the router idea from time to time, nothing works better!


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Post by: TOPNDR on September 11, 2013, 08:27:02 PM
Hey Lemo,
That's a great idea having two routers.
Might just do that.
Besides, it's handy to have one as a backup in case one dies.
Cheers for the heads up.

 :cheers:

More recent Apple AirPort Extreme/Time Capsule routers allow two networks, home & guest,  give the kids the guest password and you still have control of their access!
Title: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Brumbypt on September 11, 2013, 08:31:51 PM
I suggested the two router idea and theirs was going to be limited to certain hours, both of them complained, and the wife complained too..

all female wingers.


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Post by: Bunyip on September 12, 2013, 10:00:20 AM
I went out and bought a router that I can set time of day by individual address.

Wife and I get 24/7, if I catch the daughter using technology late at night she will be limited in her hours.

The threat itself seems to be enough at this point, have not had to restrict her.

Our kids have lived with no electronics camping since we started and we have never had an issue with them. The daughter somehow loses her phone or iPad charger, untl she finds them her devices will not get charged. She has just gone two months without her iPad for that very reason.

Bunyip
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Post by: fishfinder on September 12, 2013, 01:03:16 PM
I like the 2 router idea. 

One of many dreams I have  ;D ;D
Title: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: mcm72 on September 12, 2013, 01:16:58 PM
Most routers these days will allow multiple SSID's

This allows you to set up more than one access point. 

Most routers will also allow restricted. Speed. Hours of use.  And total time. Via the MAC address of devices.

Mine does all above. And it works GREAT !!!


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Post by: Squalo on September 12, 2013, 01:46:31 PM
We're just at the point of needing to think about this stuff (6,7 and 9 year olds). All three have their own Android tablets, plus there are two iphones, one ipod and one ipad in the house. Oh and mum's laptop and my work laptop.

My work laptop is out of bounds and internet is off for all devices except the ipad (which they don't have the pin for). But kids need to be able to use internet (can't hold them back in this age of technology) so I will take some of the advise in this topic and get going on it - thanks in advance for helping me avoid tantrums later in life :)
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Post by: Rumpig on September 12, 2013, 04:59:03 PM

The telly gets hijacked for Big Brother....  >:D

our 10 year old daughter started trying to watching that rubbish this year (her friends at school watch it), the first few episodes i caught her watching it i made her turn the crap off, after several more times being told she can't watch that show she gave up and doesn't try anymore  8) 8) how that rubbish ended up back on the idiot box i'll never understand  ??? ???
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 12, 2013, 05:11:38 PM
how that rubbish ended up back on the idiot box i'll never understand  ??? ???

G'day Rumpig,
It's there because the young one can't live without watching others.
Like Lab Rats, people are fascinated with watching others.
I don't get it at all.
 >:D
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Post by: gqcamper on September 12, 2013, 05:18:00 PM
Have recently had to set restrictions for gadget use and surprisingly all went very well.
Daughter was told no usage before school and to set her own for after school or we would.
She ended up setting herself a 2hr limit for night time usage ,so after homework and uptil she goes to bed at around 8pm she uses her 2hr time limit.
So far it has amazed me how easily she has adapted to it without any whinging.
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Post by: gibbo301 on September 12, 2013, 06:33:25 PM
One of many dreams I have  ;D ;D


Hahaha Thats routers not rooters  :cheers:
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: DRB120 on September 12, 2013, 06:42:32 PM
I must be harsh on my 11yr old boy. He isn't allowed to use his Ipod or the likes any time during a school week except for an hour each day on the weekend.

I grew up playing video games however the games on the net these days have so many ways of making them addictive that the young ones feel they need to keep going back to it and sooner or later it consumes all their spare time and behaviour becomes terrible. A work mate has had to smash his kids Ipad to get his kid to stop using it, after a couple months of the kid being moody and tired all the time he found out they had been playing it every night until 2 and 3am,and the kid ended up having withdrawal symptons and got a bit of counselling. His boy is now 14, hasn't played games for 8 months, grades at school improved straight away and is now a great kid all round.

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Post by: schmik on September 12, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
My wife phubbed me the other day... (phubbing = phone snubbing).   She did it 3 times. Some thing was much more interesting on facebook.

I blocked facebook on the router.  Fire cracker night came early that year!
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Post by: Mallory Black on September 14, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
our router lives in a the home office.
the door has a lock.
I have the only key...........
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on September 14, 2013, 06:59:43 AM
Well,
What a difference a few days make.
They have got use to the idea of having an hour each evening to chat with their friends.
The eldest gets a bit longer to research stuff for school assignments.
They don't grunt as much, their attitude has changed greatly,
Ya gotta love a bit of hard love at the right time  ;D

Hey guys, thanks for all the other tips too.
It's appreciated 

 :cheers:

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Post by: HEM19X on September 14, 2013, 07:05:15 AM
One very unhappy father, maybe a bit drastic but I'm sure he would have got his point across!!


Dad shoots daughter's laptop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D6aHAPoE78#ws)
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: speewa158 on September 14, 2013, 07:56:22 AM
l hare you Brother  :cup:
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: fishfinder on September 14, 2013, 08:46:04 AM

Hahaha Thats routers not rooters  :cheers:
depends on what part of australia your from as to how it is pronounced
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: WilSurf on November 13, 2013, 02:39:17 PM
What is a good modem/router to use which could do the limiting in hours thing?
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 13, 2013, 02:53:13 PM
What is a good modem/router to use which could do the limiting in hours thing?


Don't know, I was thinking of buying either one of these and keeping my Billion 7401vgm for the kids.
Hmmm.

Billion 7404VNPX ADSL2+ Modem/Gigabit Router/Wireless-N/VOIP/3G Support (http://www.computeralliance.com.au/billion-7404vnpx-adsl2-modem/gigabit-router/wireless-n/voip/3g-support)
(http://www.computeralliance.com.au/InventoryImages_300/5662.jpg)

EBAY, TP-Link TD-VG3631 300Mbps Wireless N VoIP ADSL2+ Modem Router  (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/TP-Link-TD-VG3631-VoIP-ADSL2-300Mbps-Wireless-N-Modem-Router-USB-Sharing-WiFi-/281015181948)
(http://static.pccasegear.com/images/TD-VG3631s.jpg)

We still have issues with the girls wanting to spend far to much time online(As far as I'm concerned anyway), but no where near as bad.
Spending 10 days camped at Nymboida for the national meet & at the gorge helped with attitude adjustments  ;D
 :cheers: 
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: WilSurf on November 13, 2013, 04:03:27 PM
We took my oldest daughter (10) her tablet off as she was on it when she was going "to bed".
Even after telling her 10 times not to, she still did it.
Now her tablet is mine and my wifes tablet has a password.

It would be great to restrict the daughters time for 1 hour every day.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 13, 2013, 05:32:21 PM
Hmm, That's why I'm looking at a second router, I can give the kids access through it and Fysh and myself will have access throught the new one.
When the kids have had 'Their Time" I can turn the one off that they have their access through.
First world problems hey.
 ;D
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: dazzler on November 13, 2013, 07:18:07 PM
Aren't you lot a barrel of laughs. 

Bullying your kids.  Waaaaaay to go! 


(You do of course get the irony.  Bagging out your kids for using the exact medium you use to bag them out on.)  :laugh:
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 13, 2013, 08:21:44 PM
Bullying your kids.  Waaaaaay to go! 


Ya reckon.  (http://www.hairfysh.com/images/Icons/Smileys/smiley-thinking.gif)
Can I ask Dazzler, Do you have kids of this age?
I know it's a different world to when I was a kid of their age some 34 odd years,  Oh but wait, I can't bring that up with them can I?
What I did when I was their age has got nothing to do with them!
Hmm, lets see,
Using this medium doesn't interfere with my time I spend with my family or friends face to face, it doesn't give me attitude, it's doesn't take from my ability to interact with others. I don't use the excuse there is nothing else to do and I don't chuck a izzy fit when I don't have internet connection AND I don't have to check my messages every bloody second on my Facebook page.
A big difference I would think.
Every child needs boundaries and rules, I had them as a kid and we have set them for our kids.
And on a whole they are pretty good, BTW I do let them know when they have done the right thing too  :cup:
 :cheers:
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: dazzler on November 13, 2013, 08:33:03 PM
Nah, got no kids.



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Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: dazzler on November 13, 2013, 09:13:55 PM
Hi Hairs

I was stirring but also being blunt for a reason.  You live once.  You  have your kids once and then they are gone.  My mum died of cancer in ten days from diagnosis.  I really wish I had more good times to remember rather than unpleasantness.  I cant go back in time to get it.

What possible outcome could there be by turning off the internet.  "Oh Father, thank you so much for showing me the error of my ways.  Now lets all sit together and talk about the day?"  Seriously?

And it is bullying,  You have control they don't.  Your behaviour is designed to annoy them and annoy them is what it did.  Did it achieve what you hoped?

I am not suggesting I have the answers to raising kids.  We have been lucky with our 18yo and our 13yo is pretty good.  Maybe our 6 and 3 will give me trouble.  Antagonising them is'nt real useful IMO.






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Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 14, 2013, 05:51:55 AM
Hey Dazzler,
You might not agree with how I'm dealing with my kids, but please don't call me a bully in a public forum when you haven't walked a mile in my shoes.

 :cheers:

Edit,
I don't think you realize how much time these kids(this generation) are spending in front of their phones, Ipods and computers, it is unhealthy.


Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Foo on November 14, 2013, 07:00:16 AM
Unless they are paying the for the computer, phone, internet or any other media, I have control over how or when they will be on them!  >:D

Foo
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: alnjan on November 14, 2013, 09:20:15 AM
My take on the issue with kids and it doesn't just relate to internet usage, you have to have the ground rules set right from the start.  If that includes allotted times to use the internet then so be it.  Think about it yourself, what is the one thing that annoys you about a regular routine or work.    Change.   

Same thing applies with kids.  Without the ground rules set at the start trying to reel the barriers back in will create hardship and at times heart ache.  The older the kids more so the problem, they want and at times need a bit more space.   

Only my thoughts though.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: DannyG on November 14, 2013, 09:22:34 AM
We like to tie our kids up in the laundry for most of the day, so the little bit they are let loose we are happy to let them use the internet. ;D
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: WilSurf on November 14, 2013, 09:43:46 AM
Agreed with the ground rules.
But if she is breaking them every time, then action is required.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Dion on November 14, 2013, 10:41:57 AM
Rather than buy a second router just buy an access point.  It just plugs into your existing router and just provides extra WiFi.  Set that one up for your kids use.

I have a similar setup in my house (thought not because of my kids) for providing internet access for friends/family/work colleagues when they come to visit/work.  They get their own WiFi which goes straight out to the internet and can't "see" any of my computers or servers.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: WilSurf on November 14, 2013, 01:43:20 PM
My router/modem is from 11/2009 so over 4 years old.
I am sure a new one will be a better investment.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: GXL4X4 on November 14, 2013, 02:19:26 PM
Well what great topic I live a small town of about 1100 I have a partner she has a 15 yr old son who to me is the most laziest dirtiest laziest am yeah all he dose is go to school comes home gets on the net eats chips drinks coke doesn't move I turn the net off at 9.30 pm he knows that's time to get off but dose t think I know the time so when I turn it off he slams the mouse down on the table but mums doesn't say or do any thing I hate when weekends and holidays come he gets out of bed a around 11 than walks out and straight on the laptop and thTs where he sits for the hole day like I might have 3 acres of lawns to mow doesn't offer to help if I ask him to do some thing it's like done in 3 sec and rushes back to the laptop and he sits on till I turn the net off at midnight I said to his mum why dose he have to stay on the net till midnight  what if I won't to go to bed early she said tell him to get off and when I do he cracks the Shits and she doesn't say any thing I said to her who is boss in this house him or us.

Chris


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Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: fishfinder on November 14, 2013, 03:59:49 PM
Well what great topic I live a small town of about 1100 I have a partner she has a 15 yr old son who to me is the most laziest dirtiest laziest am yeah all he dose is go to school comes home gets on the net eats chips drinks coke doesn't move I turn the net off at 9.30 pm he knows that's time to get off but dose t think I know the time so when I turn it off he slams the mouse down on the table but mums doesn't say or do any thing I hate when weekends and holidays come he gets out of bed a around 11 than walks out and straight on the laptop and thTs where he sits for the hole day like I might have 3 acres of lawns to mow doesn't offer to help if I ask him to do some thing it's like done in 3 sec and rushes back to the laptop and he sits on till I turn the net off at midnight I said to his mum why dose he have to stay on the net till midnight  what if I won't to go to bed early she said tell him to get off and when I do he cracks the ****s and she doesn't say any thing I said to her who is boss in this house him or us.

Chris


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I think your other half is doing the rite thing giving you the opportunity in discipline this kid - seen so many situations where the mother takes sides of their kids and the step fathers hands are tied.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Symon on November 14, 2013, 07:05:55 PM
Nah, got no kids.

Some time ago I made the decision to never criticise how someone raises their kids until I had kids of my own. 

As long as the child isn't being abused, they are raised in whatever manner their parents want them to be.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: dazzler on November 14, 2013, 07:45:50 PM

Hey Dazzler,
You might not agree with how I'm dealing with my kids, but please don't call me a bully in a public forum when you haven't walked a mile in my shoes.

 :cheers:

Edit,
I don't think you realize how much time these kids(this generation) are spending in front of their phones, Ipods and computers, it is unhealthy.


Well then dont bloody post if you cant take criticism. You brought it in the public arena - you own it. You gloated over how you treated them not me.
Your behaviour was bullying.  Whether or not you see that or agree with that is an issue for you. Did I call you a bully?  NO.  I called the behaviour bullying.

In closing, if you want to take my post as a personal attack that is a choice for you.  It was not intended that way as it was aimed at all the posts giggling about how they torment their kids.




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Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: jaycamrie on November 15, 2013, 05:26:59 AM
Mr seven year old gets home from school

says dad i am going to mates place , they play out on the street riding there scooters ,bikes ,swimming in neighbours pool ,shoot i even seen them playing cricket yesterday we dont own xboxs and the like  and he does not come home untill its dark or he,s starving  as he puts it is this normal behaviour

Miss twelve year old gets home from school

Well thats a whole differant story on comes the laptop and thats where she stays ,i ask why dont you be like your brother and go play with your friends Dad she says they are all home on there computer , i just unplug the modem every night a pain i know but you cannot trust the little buggers

Maybe its the age who knows but they all seem to have the gadgets 12 year old has no phone and she reckons she is the odd one out we reckon when she is 14 and gets a part time job and pays for her own credit she can have one Man i hope i can put up with the tantrums for that long

cheers
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 15, 2013, 05:58:00 AM
G'day jaycamrie,
Our 11yr boy comes home from school riding his bike, comes in the door, says g'day(while looking at me), unpacks his bag, gets out of his school clothes, grabs something to drink and eat, says he'll be back in an hour and off he goes on his bike to catch up with his mates, Just like I did as a kid.
It must be a girl thing, the girls come home, phone/ipod in their hands, don't look up said 'Hi' and straight into their rooms,
they have to be hunted out.
Since starting this thread, I have received member messages of support and ideas on how to try and deal with this and it has surprised me how many parents struggle with this. BTW, thanks for the ideas too.
This isn't just a couple of parents that have to deal with this, most parents are struggling to deal with their teenagers addiction to having to have their phone in their hand or in front of a screen, it is common and especially with teenage girls.
As I mentioned it is unhealthy and there are studies that are showing the social problems that kids are facing with this.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: WilSurf on November 15, 2013, 09:56:40 AM
It is fine during the day.
The same thing happens at our place, if they have time as they do dancing, synchro swimming etc.
It is when they are going to bed when this all happens.
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: axle on November 15, 2013, 12:16:56 PM
Hi Hairs,

I have been a teacher of IT for years and from my experience you are doing the right thing. I have had students leave Year 11 and 12 as a result of online gaming addiction.

People who allow their kids to use the internet on any device in their closed bedroom really concern me.  If you wouldn't let your child wonder around the streets of Kings Cross (or equivalent) at night why would you let them loose on the internet without supervision? Ask them what really happens on Snapchat.......

Thankfully my kids are only 5 and 6 but they still have boundaries for computer usage (ie playing games etc).

Everyone has their own take on parenting and its a bit like politics and religion when it comes to emotive topics, but why not listen to the advice of those who have walked that path already?

Good work mate and keep up your standards, they will one day hopefully respect you for it and perhaps be better parents themselves one day as a result.

Goodluck
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: jaycamrie on November 15, 2013, 08:25:39 PM
G'day jaycamrie,
As I mentioned it is unhealthy and there are studies that are showing the social problems that kids are facing with this.
 :cheers:

Its funny you say that  when i tell little miss its time to get off she says i am interfereing in her social life ,i try to explain that i think she is anti social and is anti social behaviour she does not understand just differant times and really hard to control, people who think they have control are kidding themselves in my opinion , all you can hope for is to keep showing them the way and hope they come out the other end OK


cheers
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: alnjan on November 16, 2013, 09:59:07 AM
Just out of shear curiosity, how many here actually sat down as a family group and discussed with their children the concenrs they have about the children being on the internet or other devices before just pulling the plug. 

Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: briann532 on November 16, 2013, 10:01:53 AM
We like to tie our kids up in the laundry for most of the day, so the little bit they are let loose we are happy to let them use the internet. ;D

PMSL......................
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Foo on November 16, 2013, 12:01:25 PM
Just out of shear curiosity, how many here actually sat down as a family group and discussed with their children the concenrs they have about the children being on the internet or other devices before just pulling the plug.

Been done here, especially after my daughter and her best friend disappeared at school to meet someone, that had hacked the school system and chatted them up.  :o  >:( (they were 13yrs)

She is now a very switched on young woman about these things.  :)

Foo
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Socks on November 16, 2013, 05:59:34 PM
Just out of shear curiosity, how many here actually sat down as a family group and discussed with their children the concenrs they have about the children being on the internet or other devices before just pulling the plug.

Can't say we've sat as a family group but I talk o my kids all the time about the amount of time on devices. My daughter isn't too bad but starts high school next year so that's likely to change. My son 10 is a problem already so I am strict with his time limits and its the first thing he looses when in trouble


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Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: jaycamrie on November 16, 2013, 06:55:05 PM
Just out of shear curiosity, how many here actually sat down as a family group and discussed with their children the concenrs they have about the children being on the internet or other devices before just pulling the plug.
Every friggin day ,,
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 18, 2013, 09:50:43 AM
Many times Al,   >:(
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Bird on November 18, 2013, 09:59:22 AM
Many times Al,   >:(
x eleventybilliondailyteen
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 18, 2013, 10:36:28 AM
all you can hope for is to keep showing them the way and hope they come out the other end OK
cheers
Sorry I missed this  :-[
I agree with you, I keep telling myself this.
 :cheers:
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 18, 2013, 10:46:23 AM
x eleventybilliondailyteen
We talk about, they agree they should spend less time in front of their phones/Ipod,whatever, things are great for a couple of days, maybe a week then we notice they are spending more & more time with their devices, the back chatting, disagreeing and attitude is back. It's time to pull them into reality again and all hell breaks loose again for a couple hours. next morning they are still cold towards us, but they talk to us, the ask & don't demand, they answer questions with more than a single syllable noise.
Lets see what this arvo brings when they come home from school.
 ;D
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: WilSurf on November 18, 2013, 11:29:34 AM
Did you get one of those routers?
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Hairs on November 18, 2013, 11:38:28 AM
Not yet,  :-[
Got other things to get first, guess we will have to work out how to deal with this in the mean time.
Hmm, We'll sit down with them again this arvo and talk about it again. there has to be a way that it is a compromise for all of us.
Maybe give them some ownership of the time/s they would like to spend on line with their mates, gotta try something  ;D
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Socks on November 18, 2013, 01:32:49 PM
Did you get one of those routers?

We have a wifi extender. They are at aldi for $40 at the moment. They're meant to give a better longer range signal to your current wifi but they show up as a separate thing. Connect yourselves to the normal router and the kids to the wifi extender (disconnect them from the regular wifi). That way you can unplug the wifi extender when you don't want them on the net. And this way you can still use the net. My wifi extender cost $80. So not bad for $40 from aldi


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Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: Swannie on November 18, 2013, 06:14:38 PM
Been done here, especially after my daughter and her best friend disappeared at school to meet someone, that had hacked the school system and chatted them up.  :o  >:( (they were 13yrs)

She is now a very switched on young woman about these things.  :)

Foo

Scary Scary stuff
Swannie
Title: Re: My Teenage daughters don't love me anymore ;)
Post by: woolgoolgaoffroad on November 19, 2013, 08:41:42 AM
maybe we need to buy a bulk amount of this publication called IDISORDER and get them read it to understand what the dangers are and how to walk away from technology sometimes to at least have time out.


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