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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: thommo19 on September 09, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
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Hi Guys
I did a sand driving course yesterday (Sunday) up at Stockton Beach.
It was with Getabout ,a great experience, learnt a lot in a good friendly enviroment.
I can recommend it to people who want learn .
Jeff
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Stockton Beach. You listen to some people and they say it is locked up and you can't drive there. Good to see you had a good day there.
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Good stuff, glad you made the investment: sand causes a lot of beginners dramas but once you learn a few tricks you will be ready for sand and desert conditions anywhere!
Stockton is not closed but there are restrictions in place. It's only the yobbos who want to drive their lifted 4WDs over everything that doesn't move and play snatchum-straps with each other who aren't happy.
It's great to see the dunes looking unmolested again and grass etc starting to grow back in places
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There are some small restrictions and the northern entrance is closed.
What did amaze/shock me is the amount of people that just litter the place. How difficult is it to take your rubbish with you.
One day someone will ban these people and we will all suffer ,can't they see that.
I now want to get a compressor how confusing is all that so many models and price.
Jeff
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yep
(http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii518/GTCampers/bottlesonbeach_zps641a71ea.jpg) (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/GTCampers/media/bottlesonbeach_zps641a71ea.jpg.html)
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Stockton is not closed but there are restrictions in place. It's only the yobbos who want to drive their lifted 4WDs over everything that doesn't move and play snatchum-straps with each other who aren't happy.
Call me a yobbo then. It was great fun to drive up the dunes north of Lavis Lane and far more challenging.
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yep
(http://i1257.photobucket.com/albums/ii518/GTCampers/bottlesonbeach_zps641a71ea.jpg) (http://s1257.photobucket.com/user/GTCampers/media/bottlesonbeach_zps641a71ea.jpg.html)
Geeze that sort of thing reeeaally P1SSES ME OFF >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Geeze that sort of thing reeeaally P1SSES ME OFF >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
yea, why do people drink cans of Fanta???
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There are some small restrictions and the northern entrance is closed.
I was up there a few weekends ago and the Northern entrance (Gan Gan Rd) is defineately open now (was closed a few weeks before I went up there).
Great fun playing on the dunes in the RV area.
Chris
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Yes that is annoying. We meat a young girl from landcare australia up at the tip. She was talking to my young girl and telling her how everywere she goes she always tries to leave it better than she fownd it, even if it is one bit of rubbish. What a great concept and we have tried to do that as well.
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Call me a yobbo then. It was great fun to drive up the dunes north of Lavis Lane and far more challenging.
Yobbo ;D
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"I was up there a few weekends ago and the Northern entrance (Gan Gan Rd) is defineately open now (was closed a few weeks before I went up there"
Thanks for the update. The closure was information supplied by the course instructor.
Jeff
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Northern entrance was closed due to flooding/excess water
It was open two weeks ago when I was there - and I guess it's open now for easy access to the pub :)
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Is there anywhere in Victoria hat do such training? I know of a few places that do 4wd training but they don't seem to offer sand driving training.
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Maybe around Robe, just over the border
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Maybe around Robe, just over the border
Nah Robe only offers recovery training ;D
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Is there anywhere in Victoria hat do such training? I know of a few places that do 4wd training but they don't seem to offer sand driving training.
4wd Vic do sand courses...
http://www.fwdvictoria.org.au/upload/training/2013%20-%20Jul-Dec/11137_FWDV_Driving%20in%20Sand.pdf (http://www.fwdvictoria.org.au/upload/training/2013%20-%20Jul-Dec/11137_FWDV_Driving%20in%20Sand.pdf)
Theres a couple of Driver Trainers on this forum from our club.
Or join a club and do all forms of offroad training.. A Robe Trip or Portland is probably the easiest if you wanna do it yourself.
I've taken about 8 groups over Robe now without issue
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Video update on Stockton beach.
http://www.4wdaction.com.au/articles/2013/behind-scenes-stockton-update
Sounds like a lot of it has been sold for sand mining >:(
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There are some small restrictions and the northern entrance is closed.
What did amaze/shock me is the amount of people that just litter the place. How difficult is it to take your rubbish with you.
One day someone will ban these people and we will all suffer ,can't they see that.
I now want to get a compressor how confusing is all that so many models and price.
Jeff
Same at Fraser Island mate. One of a kind island, and morons litter everywhere.
I've used a few cheaper compressors and they all do the job. Currently have a repco one I got for $100 on sale. No need to spend up, unless you are impatient and want to inflate at the speed of light
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http://www.worimiconservationlands.com/services.php?top=services&category=about&sid=88
Plan Your Visit
Annual Stockton beach clean up day
The 2013 Stockton Beach Clean Up Day will be held on Sunday 27th October.
Further details will be available closer to the event.
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Is there anywhere in Victoria hat do such training?
Portland
or join your local club, and do some trips with them.. I've taken about dozen groups to Robe over the years.
We even have an accredited driver trainer on this board thats in our club...
I started the processes of getting my driver trainers stuff, but what a load of bullShit you have to go through, and dealing with fossils that can do no wrong.
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hey all
been driving on the beach for years but never with a trailer.
what are the pressures to put the trailer tyres at?
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Run them similar to what ever your running on the rear of the tug.
I am generally around 20 to 22kpi if there is some soft stuff around, softer ride and better length of tyre contact to distribute the weight more.
Cheers Nomad
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I always start on sand at 16psi and adjust from there, have been down to 10psi but be careful on turns you don't roll off the rim
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hey all
been driving on the beach for years but never with a trailer.
what are the pressures to put the trailer tyres at?
10 under the trailer works well... and 15 on the tow tug. And as CRD mentioned rolling tyre off rims is a possibility but this won't happen unless you're being silly ;D
Hope this helps
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hey all
been driving on the beach for years but never with a trailer.
what are the pressures to put the trailer tyres at?
It depends on the sand you are driving in IMHO.
Some places you may need to go with GeeTee's recommendation other places where the sand is firmer you may be good with slightly higher pressures.
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I always start at 15psi and tweak from there if necessary which is very rare. Sure I could get through with more but I don't see the need when I can take things slower with less wheel spin and less right foot.
I am usually not in a hurry when sand driving so not an issue anyway but I have never had a problem running along the beach in the hard around 80km/h. I just know that I can't swerve for anything and expect a positive outcome!
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I always start on sand at 16psi and adjust from there, have been down to 10psi but be careful on turns you don't roll off the rim
Yep that works for me
Although not sure how much advantage there is on a trailer lowering the pressures on sand/beach driving.
Didnt lower trailer pressures on Fraser from memory.
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I used to be 'yeah whateva' with trailer pressures but towing a bit on the beach across from my workshop, go deep with the pressures, especially with the soft fluffy sunny Sunday stuff. It kind-of lets the trailer tyre 'get on the plane'.
With no drive and negligible braking or steering input you are safer at lower pressures under the trailer than the tow vehicle - ...but that is not an issue unless you are doing turn-and-burns for the camera ;)
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Different beaches....different sand.............different pressures..............I reckon if you go in at 15 to 16 psi straight from the get go you are going in a little bit too much too early. Give yourself some where to drop to if you start to bog down.
This relates to the beach, not a desert situation, but most will run along the beach with ct on lower tides for obvious reason, so the only soft sand you are doing is either cuttings or getting to a site. In these situations you can prepare to have some speed to get where you are going so 15psi isn't really going to help to much.
Cheers NOmad.