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Some information on Palmer River and Maytown from gclan.
The Old Coach Rd was a highlight of our Cape trip last year. I've heard of some some doing it in around 6 hours+, but it took the two of us (one towing a camper trailer) just over 9 hours from Jowalbinna to Dog Leg Crossing, with a 40min lunch stop up at the Robert Logan Jack Memorial, a few quick photo stops along the track, and about 20mins trying to find the Palmer River campsite in the dark(no luck). Dog Leg Crossing is by far the better campsite anyway.
With a typical Myswag group size, you'd probably have to camp the night somewhere along the track, but I'm not sure where you are allowed to camp up on the plateau, and I can't remember if we even passed a spot large enough for a group to camp. We passed a single car heading south-north, and they'd camped the night near the old Folder's Hotel site before continuing on to Laura. The Ron and Viv Moon book might help with that.
The track is slow going, but not too difficult. There are probably only half a dozen spots that will hold a few people up. The main one being the big rock step on the western most route going up the escarpment. Coming from the south, you'll have to go 'up' it, which will require a bit of road building and possible winching. We needed to do a fair bit of road building ourselves just to get down the waist high ledge. There used to be a chicken track, but it's almost as bad as the main rock step now. Just make sure everyone is ok with the thought of some possible damage here to the underside of their campers. This was the only spot along the whole track that I was glad we going north to south, so that we could go down through the cutting. There's always the option of taking the eastern route which is supposed to be slightly easier, and avoids this big rock shelf (follow the main signs for Maytown or Laura).
If you do take the eastern route, make sure to double back and head up to the RL Jack Memorial on top of the plateau. The turn off and sign were easy to miss last year. A small overgrown track and a faded, rusted sign lying on the ground at the base of a tree.
There are several tight squeezes between trees for those with camper trailers, and some rock cuttings to negotiate that aren't hard, just time consuming. There are several long descents and ascents with small rock ledges, that you'll need guides for, and some of the creek crossing have steep exits and entries. Just make sure you've got a few good guides with you, and you'll be fine.
It's an amazing track. The history, views, and technical driving are all worthwhile. I'm personally glad we went north to south, but both directions have their good and bad points, and I think the number of hill ascents and descents all balance out roughly equally.
The road out from Maytown to Palmer River Roadhouse took us close to 3 hours, and it was a very well maintained road. The road from Laura to Jowalbinna was in really good condition too, though I can't remember how long it took.
Jowalbinna was a great campground, with flush toilets, hot showers.
I've put up quite a few photos in my Cape York trip report, and am working on a series of videos for youtube that will give you a good idea of the track if you're interested.
Many Thanks Karen
We will spend a full day at Maytown exploring the old relics and history of the area.
http://www.tourismcapeyork.com/news/cooktownlocalnews/maytown (http://www.tourismcapeyork.com/news/cooktownlocalnews/maytown)
http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/palmer-goldfield/about.html (http://www.nprsr.qld.gov.au/parks/palmer-goldfield/about.html)
http://www.tourismcapeyork.com/stay/lakeland_and_laura/accom/jowalbinnacamp.jpg/view (http://www.tourismcapeyork.com/stay/lakeland_and_laura/accom/jowalbinnacamp.jpg/view)
Mark
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Mark, I can't recall your proposed trip route BUT the museum in Cooktown has a great display model of Maytown & other stuff, we found that it put everything into place once we had been there.
We went in & out on the western route, there were 4 vehicles [3 with CT's] when we visited & we camped on the river on the way back after looking around the town & with a bigger convoy this might be an option. Can't recall how far it is but it is between the escarpment that gclan talks about & Maytown.
Hem
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Mark, I can't recall your proposed trip route BUT the museum in Cooktown has a great display model of Maytown & other stuff, we found that it put everything into place once we had been there.
We went in & out on the western route, there were 4 vehicles [3 with CT's] when we visited & we camped on the river on the way back after looking around the town & with a bigger convoy this might be an option. Can't recall how far it is but it is between the escarpment that gclan talks about & Maytown.
Hem
Thanks Hem. I may have to do a weekend trip there to check things out.
Mark
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Thanks Hem. I may have to do a weekend trip there to check things out.
Mark
I always luv a Reccie!!!
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Thanks Hem. I may have to do a weekend trip there to check things out.
Mark
Do it before it warms up too much , lol ...We camped out there late October one trip and it was uncomfortable to say the least .. almost ran out of lubricant , lol And we left the drive home till dusk as we didn't want to be in the ute in the heat of the day , its a slow drive coming out after dark..
cheers
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I hope you don't mind me posting this here, but I finally got the first highlight video of the Old Coach Road finished, and it may give those who haven't been before a bit of insight into this amazing track.
Just remember that you will be going in the opposite direction and that there is an alternate road up the escarpment to the track we took down from the RL Jack Memorial (the alternate track is shown in letsgo's (Kate and Chris') report).
Offroad Highlights from the Old Coach Road - Cape York (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKd8wKwY1bA#ws)
Cheers
Karen
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Thanks Karen, great video look forward to part 2.
Not sure what track to take yet ;D
Mark
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Great video, thanks Karen I'm sure the slopes are a lot steeper than they look ;D
:cheers:
Peter
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Top video. Can't wait for part 2. :cup:
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I kicked the kids off the computer and managed to finish Part 2 of the Old Coach Road, so here it is.
Cape York 4x4 - Old Coach Road Highlights Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCCBYSTkN78#ws)
Cheers
Karen
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Thanks Karen.
Can't wait to tackle the track.
Mark
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Awesome footage Karen
Thanks so much for sharing your amazing journey.
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Thanks Karen.
Not sure if its my ipad but its not very clear.
Mark
Crystal clear on my iPad.
Thanks for the footage, that is awesome
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Crystal clear on my iPad.
Thanks for the footage, that is awesome
No all good now.
Mark
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Getting excited.... :D :D :D :D :D
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From looking at that track it might be worthwhile for people to carry 2 spare tyres - especially if the tug doesn't match the trailer.
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From looking at that track it might be worthwhile for people to carry 2 spare tyres - especially if the tug doesn't match the trailer.
Good point Symon. I will carry a spare tyre without the Rim on the roof racks.
Mark
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Very jealous of all of you who are going up there this year >:D
We must have had luck on our side, because neither of us got a puncture, which really amazed us considering the terrain.
Mind you, our camper tyres didn't look too good when we got back to Cairns. We had to replace them for the trip south, but they had travelled across to the Kimberley and through every mainland state, plus the Cape, so they didn't do too badly overall ;D
Karen
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Thanks Karen a great video looks like you had a great trip.
:cheers:
Peter
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We must have had luck on our side, because neither of us got a puncture, which really amazed us considering the terrain.
That's what I'm thinking as well, those tracks are tyre shredding terrain. We will be running low pressures and taking it easy but amongst 15 or so vehicles the odds are we will shred a tyre at some stage. I know JK, McGirr and I all have the same stud pattern so there should be plenty of spares for the cruisers (not sure if GQ/GU's are the same? Duggie? Geoff?) but those of us with Pajero's, Triton's etc might consider carrying a second spare without the rim.
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I'll be bringing 2 spares on rims as usual.
Bert
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That's what I'm thinking as well, those tracks are tyre shredding terrain. We will be running low pressures and taking it easy but amongst 15 or so vehicles the odds are we will shred a tyre at some stage. I know JK, McGirr and I all have the same stud pattern so there should be plenty of spares for the cruisers (not sure if GQ/GU's are the same? Duggie? Geoff?) but those of us with Pajero's, Triton's etc might consider carrying a second spare without the rim.
Now you tell me...I just got rid of the old tyres replaced with the new BFG's. ;D ;D
Looks like I'll have to put up a wanted ad... :cheers:
Mark
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but those of us with Pajero's, Triton's etc might consider carrying a second spare without the rim.
I would suggest a second rim as well..........I have changed enough tyres by hand, for the bit of extra weight of a rim I know I would rather do on the side of the road or the end of a days drive
I suggest to anybody who is thinking of taking just a 2nd spare tyre i.e. no rim is to change a tyre in your back yard first
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Don't worry Mark...................I'll loan you my Tyrepliers ;D I love watching people change rims :cheers:
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That's what I'm thinking as well, those tracks are tyre shredding terrain. We will be running low pressures and taking it easy but amongst 15 or so vehicles the odds are we will shred a tyre at some stage. I know JK, McGirr and I all have the same stud pattern so there should be plenty of spares for the cruisers (not sure if GQ/GU's are the same? Duggie? Geoff?) but those of us with Pajero's, Triton's etc might consider carrying a second spare without the rim.
Hi Guys,
I am not a fan of running low tyre pressures on rough tracks/roads, I keep my tyres at around the 32 pound mark as it will reduce the side wall bulge that becomes evident when running low pressures. Most rock/tyre damage is in the side wall area of the tyre, ( my experience from working in the mining industry and growing driving on rough rocky bush tracks ).
Yes GQ and GU are the same stud pattern but my rims will not go over the larger front rotors on the GU Nissan's.
All of the Japanese manufactured four wheel drives with the six stud pattern are the same pattern. The difference is the rim to rotor ratio tyre size and wheel offset, but when and if needed there will be something on a vehicle that will do for a quick fix.
cheers duggie
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That's what I'm thinking as well, those tracks are tyre shredding terrain. We will be running low pressures and taking it easy but amongst 15 or so vehicles the odds are we will shred a tyre at some stage. I know JK, McGirr and I all have the same stud pattern so there should be plenty of spares for the cruisers (not sure if GQ/GU's are the same? Duggie? Geoff?) but those of us with Pajero's, Triton's etc might consider carrying a second spare without the rim.
I trust someone will carry a spare for my OKA
regards, Chris.
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Im with Duggie on this one, but haven't seen the track or terrain as yet, my initial thoughts are with your tyres being a bit to bagged then you would be susceptible to the sharp edges that rocky terrain would/could offer.
Whilst dropping your pressures will offer a bigger foot print, and make the ride a little softer I guess, we will need to carful not drop to much air, and cause ourselves dramas.
Suck it and see I guess ;D, ill be carrying 2 spares in any event.
Swanny
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Im with Duggie on this one, but haven't seen the track or terrain as yet, my initial thoughts are with your tyres being a bit to bagged then you would be susceptible to the sharp edges that rocky terrain would/could offer.
Whilst dropping your pressures will offer a bigger foot print, and make the ride a little softer I guess, we will need to carful not drop to much air, and cause ourselves dramas.
Suck it and see I guess ;D, ill be carrying 2 spares in any event.
Swanny
Remember we will be traveling very slow over the track. My understanding, quote me if I am wrong, is lowering tyre pressure helps more on corrugated roads and sand. I agree that exposing the side wall creates more opportunities in getting a tear in the tyre.
Years ago the road between Lakeland downs and Laura was riddled with sharp rocks, it's now tarred all the way, and talking to locals and road crews back then they never lowered the tyre pressure as they got more tears in the sidewalls when they did.
I suppose everyone has an opinion.
Mark
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nice landy ...
it would be a hell ride in my buggy .. lol
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The camper I was going to bring has land cruiser wheels, but after seeing that awesome VDO I will try to get one made with a 30+ offset to match my new rig.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/23/9y5ade2y.jpg)
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The camper I was going to bring has land cruiser wheels, but after seeing that awesome VDO I will try to get one made with a 30+ offset to match my new rig.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/23/9y5ade2y.jpg)
Nice one Scott. It's missing a led light bar mate ;D
Mark
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The camper I was going to bring has land cruiser wheels, but after seeing that awesome VDO I will try to get one made with a 30+ offset to match my new rig............
Nice bus Scott :cup: :cup:
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I know! Trouble is I'm friends with so many people that sell them. Better not to have one, that way no one gets hurt.
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Im with Duggie on this one, but haven't seen the track or terrain as yet, my initial thoughts are with your tyres being a bit to bagged then you would be susceptible to the sharp edges that rocky terrain would/could offer.
Whilst dropping your pressures will offer a bigger foot print, and make the ride a little softer I guess, we will need to carful not drop to much air, and cause ourselves dramas.
Suck it and see I guess ;D, ill be carrying 2 spares in any event.
Swanny
Everyone has their own techniques, but the idea of dropping pressures on rocks is that it allows the tread to wrap around sharp edges, and not press up hard against them like a balloon - hence avoiding punctures. The other thing it does is give you a heap more grip, so you don't have to use the loud pedal as much and avoid wheelspin. Nothing shreds tyres like spinning wheels on rocks.
I'm not telling people what to do, but my tyres will be sitting at ~16-20 psi if we encounter jagged rocks.
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We had our tyres down to around 34psi (from memory) because we were towing.
Jamie normally runs them at around 24-28psi when we're offroad, lower on sand, and will drop them further to get out of a situation.
Not sure what pressures the Triton was running.
Our crew often run different tyre pressures. As Symon says, it's a personal choice.
Fingers crossed nobody needs one, let alone two, spares.
If in doubt, I've got a slightly used official lucky shamrock from Ireland going cheap ;D
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A mud map of the old coach rd. Click on it to make it easier to read.
Mark