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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: DaveR on August 17, 2013, 06:00:09 PM
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It is getting worse, the local made stuff is going, and replaced with the home brand that has the fancy label etc and made OS with crud inside.
Now, the local pure yogurt without the various sugars is no longer sold.
Also, as of today, they no longer stock the full range of Weet-bix.
That is a form of TREASON.
My trolley was over half way full, I hit the cereal isle, and it wasn't there, OK, no stock, but hang on, no space for it either. So I asked for it and was told my Favorite that I have eaten for who knows how long will no longer be stocked in this store, but more of the other plain types instead.
So I left my half full trolley where it was and walked out, after having a whinge at the manager.
Argggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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good for you Dave. should be more of it go on i say. so they cant no longer stock weet bix?
unbelievable >:(
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UnAustralian, clearly they're just focussed on profit and not on you the customer.
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I'm shocked.
A retailer making a profit!
How dare they.
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Yes, seems strange doesn't it.
Seems it's accepted in some retail business but not ok in others............
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just read the wife your story, she is the inventory manager at our local woollies. a lot of stores carry all stock of certain brands,but some cant due to not enough sales, what do you buy, she can see what is available close to you, or it may have just been out of stock. I hope my local bottle shop does not experience the same problems.
regards wmarsb
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Good on you, problem is that 90% of customers don't even realise this insidious change is taking place!
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Good on you, problem is that 90% of customers don't even realise this insidious change is taking place!
You'd have to be blind not to... Coles is the same.... its near on impossible to find anything but tasteless homebrand Shit now.
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I went to buy bread the other day, went to Coles, only a few of one of the brands I buy and they were stale, but there they were, shelves of Coles own brand bread. I left and went to Woollies’ and the same. Very little what I would call good quality bread, buts heads of Woollies’ brand. I gave up and went to a Baker’s Delight store. Now I may be wrong and the bread may be fine, but I just don’t like not having a choice. I still have not bought one single bottle of their own brand milk, no matter how cheap they have been. And I might add. Went to a K Mart store last week and I went to find a check out and the only ones open were self service! So I found an assistant and said I refuse to use a self service, so she went and opened a check out and served me. Yes, I have never used a self service one. But I know I am just an dinosaur and I need to get use to it. :-[ Kevin
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a lot of stores carry all stock of certain brands,but some cant due to not enough sales
Not having a go at your SHMBO, but they manage what goes where, and what has prime place to increase sales. Their own brands now occupy prime of place, or, if you want your product in these location, you pay$$$$$. No wonder products drop below sales quotas and are discarded.
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our local foodworks store doesnt sell dicksmith aussie choc, so we have to travel to melboune, atleast 90 mins away to buy it.. so yes we do all our shopping too, wife likes going to aldi nowdays and buys most things from there.
Peter,
Tapa talker
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They were not out of stock, I was told they wont be selling these items any more.
The guys on the ABC show "The Checkout" did thing about it to.
Plain pack of aussie made variety bikies I was getting for the kids is no longer available, but a look-a-like from india with home brand label is. Even the kids don't eat it it is that bad.
I am happy they make a profit, but there is no need to take something off the shelf which was obviously selling as it was always low on numbers when I was there to then not sell it at all.
My wife does the online thing with them now, but I am the one who dashes of the to shops.
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I went to buy bread the other day, went to Coles, only a few of one of the brands I buy and they were stale, but there they were, shelves of Coles own brand bread. I left and went to Woollies’ and the same. Very little what I would call good quality bread, buts heads of Woollies’ brand. I gave up and went to a Baker’s Delight store. Now I may be wrong and the bread may be fine, but I just don’t like not having a choice. I still have not bought one single bottle of their own brand milk, no matter how cheap they have been. And I might add. Went to a K Mart store last week and I went to find a check out and the only ones open were self service! So I found an assistant and said I refuse to use a self service, so she went and opened a check out and served me. Yes, I have never used a self service one. But I know I am just an dinosaur and I need to get use to it. :-[ Kevin
I'm with you on the self serve checkouts. Scanned an item the other day and it came up different price. Bit hard to call for your own price check.
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Spot on Mace, if you want your product at eye level you PAY to have it there.
those that pay LESS will end up down the bottom rack.
When the bidding has finished your stock might not have a place anymore, and home brand gets the spot for free!!
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I'm with you on the self serve checkouts.
I often see a Queue of people in the Green shed or Supermarkets at the Check out, with no one at the Self Check outs. Our local Green shed even has a dragon lady at the check out to try and get folk to not use it, so I just go to the service desk.
Yet to use 1 myself. My Brother-in-law told me a good one, he makes a mistake on 1 in every 10 items, he seems to not notice that it didn't scan..... Funny that, his theory is if I must do their work for them, I get paid for it.
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I'm with you on the self serve checkouts.
I used them once - and never will ever again by choice...
I had 4 of those huge garden pots, and 4 bags of potting mix from memory.
Anyway scanned the first bag of potting mix, it wouldn't fit on the shelf so I put it on the deck... but it wouldn't let me do anything else until I piled it on the shelf.. It just wouldn't fit. left the ****in lot and walked out.
Thinking about it, I should have torn the bag open and poured it over the ****ing thing.
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Go to aldi all made under aldi brand, bit like getting caught drunk driving then blaming the pup for shuting at ten :police: :police: :police:
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Go to aldi all made under aldi brand, bit like getting caught drunk driving then blaming the pup for shuting at ten :police: :police: :police:
most of it is imported from Europe.
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We have a really big IGA opened up near us, I can get what I want down there more often that I can from Woolies. I also refuse to use self serve checkouts. thats taking jobs from kids and the stuff doesn't get any cheaper for it.
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Watch this - The Beast File: Woolies and Coles (HUNGRY BEAST) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1et_HBmLYw#ws)
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been shopping at woolies for years, we used to buy spc apple sauce and spc plum sauce for years now they don't stock either only their own brand and a 888 brand, yet we are hearing support aussie farmers and companys yet now we have to go to coles to get these products, its a joke
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most in germany , where is your car / cars made , perhaps you drive fords like me :cheers: ;D
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The sad thing is everyone demands cheaper prices.. theres only one way to do that... and it isn't buying from Australian farmers..
And everytime theres one of these threads, everyone jumps up and down and spits flames and fart solid titanium bullets.. but that's about as far as it goes.
I think everyone is waiting for the Government or ACCC to give a Shit... Sadly that wont ever happen - neither have an goolies.
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TITANIUM BULLETS ? bob catter does those or are they SURPOSERIES ???
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Our nearest Coles is less than 200m from home, but we use Aussie Farmers Direct who deliver to our door, and the quality of the stuff is SO much better.
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We go to the weekend fruit markets to get our fruit and always try do our shopping at foodland which supports local products and Australian products.
Doug
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Our nearest Coles is less than 200m from home, but we use Aussie Farmers Direct who deliver to our door, and the quality of the stuff is SO much better.
I also use aussie farmers direct, food is so fresh
Swannie
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Our local IGA is locally owned and stocks a "fair" amount of good products.
I also know for FACT that IGA sponsors wholly and solely the food supply and run for the Drive for life charity.
It is one of the only charity's where 100% reaches the cause. No money taken for running costs etc.
IGA are brilliant that way.
I also know the owner supports local, especially by putting the money back into the pub (well he buys beer and bets!!!)
Friendly staff, no self serve, if asked will stock a product for you, and no dearer than the other mobs who really only super discount a few items to suck you in. >:(
Go IGA.
Brian
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I have 2 IGA's near by, but sadly, they don't sell Norco milk, which is the local farmer co-op milk made 5 min drive down the road on the gold coast. They do sell milk from Victoria. I did ask them for it and got a brush of type reply.
I may now go there more often and ask for it also, the nearest branch was owned by a local family but new owners now it has changed a lot.
We get fresh veggies and fruit delivered from a small online firm. It is cheaper and yummier then supermarkets, tomato's taste like tomato's.
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IGA for us too, it happens to be our local supermarket
The next town has both Coles and Woolies but I prefer IGA.
They don't night fill so at anytime of the day the local kids are up down the aisles restocking ;D
They can go from 1 checkout open to 4 (total amount) in about 15 secs :cheers:
Plus I can get a park straight out the front ;D
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The sad thing is everyone demands cheaper prices.. theres only one way to do that... and it isn't buying from Australian farmers..
And everytime theres one of these threads, everyone jumps up and down and spits flames and fart solid titanium bullets.. but that's about as far as it goes.
I think everyone is waiting for the Government or ACCC to give a ****... Sadly that wont ever happen - neither have an goolies.
I don't demand cheaper prices.
Ever.
I demand quality Australian made goods. Every product I buy.. every... I turn the package over and determine the country of origin before I decide if I want to buy it or not. If it's imported, it goes back on the shelf until I can find an Aussie made product.
Sometimes there is no Aussie product at a particular store so then I think.. can I do without this product? And can I shop somewhere where there IS Aussie product?
Some of my mates think this is a little extreme but I am happy paying an Aussie farmer for his efforts because one day, in my travels, I will more than likely drive past that bloke's farm and I want him to be there growing produce. Like last weekend, in the Riverina, where I saw lots of yummy oranges ;D
I refuse to buy biscuits made in China.
I refuse to buy orange juice from Brazil.
I refuse to buy prawns from Vietnam.
I refuse to buy 'baked fresh on-site' bread that arrived from Ireland as dough.
It's the least I can do to keep Australian society strong.
And I encourage others to do the same.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-17/citrus-grower-mounts-campaign-to-change-labelling-laws/4893778?section=nsw (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-08-17/citrus-grower-mounts-campaign-to-change-labelling-laws/4893778?section=nsw)
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I went to buy bread the other day, went to Coles, only a few of one of the brands I buy and they were stale, but there they were, shelves of Coles own brand bread. I left and went to Woollies’ and the same. Very little what I would call good quality bread, buts heads of Woollies’ brand. I gave up and went to a Baker’s Delight store. Now I may be wrong and the bread may be fine, but I just don’t like not having a choice. I still have not bought one single bottle of their own brand milk, no matter how cheap they have been. And I might add. Went to a K Mart store last week and I went to find a check out and the only ones open were self service! So I found an assistant and said I refuse to use a self service, so she went and opened a check out and served me. Yes, I have never used a self service one. But I know I am just an dinosaur and I need to get use to it. :-[ Kevin
Can't remember the last time we bought crap supermarket bread. We always go to the local bakery (not franchise) and get our bread fresh in the morning. There is nothing better than coming home to make sangers to take to work and the bread is still nice,soft and warm in the middle. Mmmmmm
X2 GeeTee
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Last night I tried to get onto Aussie Farmers Direct but unfortunately they don't service our area. I'll keep trying though and I don't mind paying a little extra for an Aussie product, in the long run if more people do this the prices will balance out. DaveR, I'm a little concerned that you had tomatoes that tasted like tomatoes. Are you sure they were tomatoes :-)
As an ex commercial fisherman I understand the pain of being a primary producer and I refuse to buy imported seafood, I know the difference between a local product and the crap we get imported.
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Our local IGA is locally owned and stocks a "fair" amount of good products.
I also know for FACT that IGA sponsors wholly and solely the food supply and run for the Drive for life charity.
It is one of the only charity's where 100% reaches the cause. No money taken for running costs etc.
IGA are brilliant that way.
I also know the owner supports local, especially by putting the money back into the pub (well he buys beer and bets!!!)
Friendly staff, no self serve, if asked will stock a product for you, and no dearer than the other mobs who really only super discount a few items to suck you in. >:(
Go IGA.
Brian
that local owner also sponsors our junior rugby league club and another in the area.
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Last night I tried to get onto Aussie Farmers Direct but unfortunately they don't service our area.
We get their family fruit & veg box, very good value and always fresh and good quality. My son thinks it is a novelty and always wants to be first to try something out of the box when it is delivered. I can remember getting full cream milk in glass bottles delivered in the wee hours of the morning.
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most of it is imported from Europe.
No it isnt
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No it isnt
... yea ok then.
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that local owner also sponsors our junior rugby league club and another in the area.
Going off track now, but he's a legend.
Several years ago when the boss had just had our first baby, he told me to p1s$ off and go home. Ring with our order and he'd deliver it.
Fresh meat is superb, service is above and beyond and I can always get a parking spot.
A local, and a legend.
This country needs more like him and I'm happy to support him.
Sent from a machine made in China that is of no benefit to our country......
Brian
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I too have noticed that Woolies are steadily replaceing (generally poor) copies of favourite branded products selling at 10-20c cheaper than the originals. How long will it be before Woolies only stocks their own brands. Hopefully the branded companies will get together and open their own distribution stores and stop the Woolies/Coles duopoly in this country.
rob
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My current obsession - finding a can of the good old mushy peas - have searched Woolworths, Coles and all the local IGA's no one stocks them anymore - whenever I ask for them the only suggestion I get is to buy a can of peas and mush them myself - talk about un-Australian - how much longer till the bakery stops selling the good old mushy peas - anyone know where they get them or do I stage a sit in at Yatala pies !!!
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I make mushy peas myself, using dried peas. I'll see if I can find the method.
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Another Aussie Farmers Direct - I love their meat! Delivered twice a week, I belong to a co-op for F & V (Although I use to use Aussie Farmers) I now don't have to go to a supermarket for weeks at a time :-)
I don't mind their being a coles/Woolworths brand (There is a place for everything) I just think its really sneaky that sometimes the packaging looks so similar to the older brands. On occasion I've bought coles/Woolworths not realising!
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How long will it be before Woolies only stocks their own brands.
as soon as they can. thats been the plan for 25 years.
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A big part of the problem is that Coles and Woolworths now control 80% of the dry grocery market in Australia. Business people visiting from overseas can't believe it! These outfits are also major players in hardware, petroleum, liquor and poker machines. They have to power to dictate terms to manufacturers, who always seem to drop their pants for the supermarket giants.
A case in point is white milk, where the processors are effectively selling their product to the supermarkets at, or a little less than, cost. In order to maintain profitability, the milk processors have to charge the independent stores a higher price. This means that the independent stores - grocers, corner stores and so on - a effectively subsidising the supermarket giants.
To make matters worse, the manufacturers hike their prices to the independent wholesalers in order to claw back some profit lost in their dealings with Coles and Woolworths. The independent wholesalers then find themselves having to deliver products to stores at prices well above what these store operators can buy from the local Coles or Woolworths. So a big chunk of what we buy at local stores, actually comes from the supermarkets.
Yet our grocery prices in Australia are not particularly cheap. Fat grocery margins allow the big two to put on huge petrol discounts - which always happen at the expense of independent service stations.
The system is broken and go Government has the guts to step in and fix it. I think grocery retailing in Australia is an international disgrace.
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We live near a small tow that only has an IGA so we shop there most of the time. They do stock our local milk & chicken
They only stock the mid size box of weetbix & some things like bulk tins olive oil are only available in the city so we shop at Coles about once every month or so to get those things we can't get at the IGA
The last time I was at Coles I saw a nix box of weetbix like we got when we were kids but it was advertised as being 1/3 more with the Down Down Finger.
I got that box but when I put it on the shelf in the pantry I sat it the same way round as our normal IGA weetbix.
Then it struck me the IGA bix are 33g each but the Coles 1/3 more ones are only 30g each . . . WTF . . . .???
How can that be
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I got that box but when I put it on the shelf in the pantry I sat it the same way round as our normal IGA weetbix.
Then it struck me the IGA bix are 33g each but the Coles 1/3 more ones are only 30g each . . . WTF . . . .???
How can that be
All the big players are doin it.
Cadbury chocolate blocks used to be 250g. Now they're 200 or thereabouts. Don't see a 20% price reduction in them! Same with their mini packs.
Playing us for fools.
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OK, I am Biased, I do like this show.
But. there is a point to this segment from the show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Hzd5bh3ko (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1Hzd5bh3ko)
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All the big players are doin it.
Cadbury chocolate blocks used to be 250g. Now they're 200 or thereabouts. Don't see a 20% price reduction in them! Same with their mini packs.
Playing us for fools.
Yep.. so much it aint funny.
There was a big article on this recently titled something about everything shrinking but prices...
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I shop Local IGA.
They fully supported my wifes recent cupcake fundraising for RSPCA.
On a price for price basis, Ive been more than happy with the IGA pricing, over Coles/Woolies.
I have also recently found out that our Local Nth road IGA support ALOT of charity/fundraising and local events...............
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I ...
- only buy Australian Made & Owned. It's very easy if you read the labels, but do be aware some labels lie, and it's getting harder and harder to find stuff that doesn't have the old "Australian and Imported Goods" get out of it clause - which could mean 1 aussie peanut and 99 imported peanuts.
- also DO NOT buy pre-made food - sauces are the exception. I make everything at home. That way I know what went into it and the end results are always better.
- buy my bread at a local bakery - their bread is THE BEST!
- used a good butcher, but he's now closed up due to lack of interest.
- shop at IGA.
- buy Dairy Farmers where possible (Aussie Owned / Aussie Made).
- source local fruit and veg ... I know where Gatton is and I support the growers there as much as possible (Mulgowie Corn is so very YUMMO! ... Aratula Carrots ... etc, etc) and I know they haven't been stored for 9 months in some bulk fridge unit.
Australian Made & Owned products using Australian Ingredients are becoming harder and harder to find. Why?
SHARE HOLDER DRIVEN PROFITS and consumers who just don't give a rats ...
Our farmers are going broke, China is buying up our farm land (yep only one of the many countries doing it) ... and our government supports it all.
Kit_e
P.S. Don't get me started on FACTORY FARMING!
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I don't demand cheaper prices.
Ever.
I demand quality Australian made goods. Every product I buy.. every... I turn the package over and determine the country of origin before I decide if I want to buy it or not. If it's imported, it goes back on the shelf until I can find an Aussie made product.
Sometimes there is no Aussie product at a particular store so then I think.. can I do without this product? And can I shop somewhere where there IS Aussie product?
Some of my mates think this is a little extreme but I am happy paying an Aussie farmer for his efforts because one day, in my travels, I will more than likely drive past that bloke's farm and I want him to be there growing produce. Like last weekend, in the Riverina, where I saw lots of yummy oranges ;D
I refuse to buy biscuits made in China.
I refuse to buy orange juice from Brazil.
I refuse to buy prawns from Vietnam.
I refuse to buy 'baked fresh on-site' bread that arrived from Ireland as dough.
It's the least I can do to keep Australian society strong.
And I encourage others to do the same.
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- buy Dairy Farmers where possible (Aussie Owned / Aussie Made).
Sorry Kit-e Dairy Farmers were Purchased by Kirin in 2008, so is Japanese owned , just like my XXXX
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Sorry Kit-e Dairy Farmers were Purchased by Kirin in 2008, so is Japanese owned , just like my XXXX
Swear Word ... back to doing a new milk producer search. ;D
Kit_e
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Kit-e
Norco is a local dairy firm for you, sort of I think.
http://www.norco.com.au/ (http://www.norco.com.au/)
We already get our fruit and vegge from these guys, and have done so for some time now.
http://www.freshness4u.com.au/ (http://www.freshness4u.com.au/)
Now we're looking at the farmer dirrect as well.
I am surrounded by Coles or Woolies, with 2 small and expensive IGA's. Also 2 Aldis near by, but they have limited range. Is there someone on the net like farmer direct that is an Aussie based and supportive enterprise that I can get all the other needs from, like Cereal, soap, frozen stuff, etc from which anyone knows off and can recommend?
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My local IGA has managed to blockade the plans to build a Woolworths in our local area for nearly 4 years. Plans to build a new Woolworths have now been approved with building commencing very soon.
We rarely shop at our local IGA except to buy bread and milk or top up on supplies over the weekend.
The shop is filthy dirty. The fruit and veg area is full of stale brown greens. I bought chicken breast from the meat section once and went to cook it the next day but it was off. This also happened once with ham from the deli. As I had bought 2kgs of chicken, I took it back for a refund. I did finally get my money back but not after I had to answer a buch of questions about how long it took before I put it in the fridge, was my fridge working properly etc and made me feel like I was trying to scam them.
There are stains all over the floor that really need a good mop and polish and there are cobwebs hanging down in the ceiling area. There are always half unpacked boxes in the aisles and they quite often have gaps in the shelves where they have run out of stock.
The IGA 20mins away from us is the complete opposite, it is very clean with good produce and friendly staff but it is not where I live.
Personally, I can't wait for Woolworths to open in our local area.
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Keep an eye out for this milk from Milla Milla.
It is now being stocked in Woolworths and IGA ( I think)
Not cheap but even the "lite" has cream on top ;D
http://www.mungallicreekdairy.com.au/ (http://www.mungallicreekdairy.com.au/)
Rob
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Just spent a couple days at Gloucester NSW and they have a new Woolies for 2500 people they have a local IGA been there for years the guy who owns this tried to get a Super IGA but couldn't get it passed in time now the town of 2500 people and local jobs will look like loosing the bottle shop as Woolies has a BWS,the Bakery, Butcher Shop and who knows what else ,sad.While i was visiting a local Winery the owner said that in Europe that if a major chain wants to come into the town they have to offer to buy them out first if they want.Good idea!
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Key Kit-e
Paris Creek Milk (is from SA but there are Qld Suppliers
www.bdfarmpariscreek.com.au/Where_to_Buy.html (http://www.bdfarmpariscreek.com.au/Where_to_Buy.html)
Cheers
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Woolworths operate on a "regional" basis, as opposed to Coles/ IGA / Aldi etc who supposedly work on a statewide basis.
Once Woolworths get a certain % of market share up go the prices, and quite viciously as well. At least thats what I have been told.
Cheers Nomad.
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Found THIS (http://www.aussiecooking.com.au/cook/australian-cooks-shopping/local-dairy-milk-companies/) ... lists local milk suppliers ... where I found Barambah ... and they have ethics (http://www.barambahorganics.com.au/barambah-difference/the-farm.aspx) I like ... I've seen them at our local IGA ... a bit more expensive per litre than others ... but I'm happy to pay the bigger price ... as the milk tastes like it did years ago on the farm (incidentally our farm was on Barambah Creek) :cup:
Kit_e