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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Nay-DMAX on July 23, 2013, 11:53:58 AM
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I know it's a camping forum and this is my second not very camping question (at least the ereader could come camping) anyways our washing machine at home is on it's last legs and I will be looking at replacing it. I have heard great things about the LG front loader and am leaning towards this path as they are meant to be more water efficient and I have been told wash better. Can anyone shed any light on this pro's and con's of brands and front v's top I know everyone will like certain things about theirs. I do not often add to the wash after it has started and I think front loader so it is easier to put the dryer above it which will get a cupboard out of the laundry.
Thanks
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We went from a top loader to a front load last year and I wish we got one sooner. There a lot quieter and clean better less room as you can put the dryer on top or build in as we did. The one we got was the Samsung 10kg Eco bubble. Masters were the cheapest.
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I know for sure a front loader uses less water and tends not to wreck your clothes. Putting the horse blanket in a front loader is not a good idea, LOL. We have a Maytag and nothing but praise for it. I would probably go the same again. Its probably 8 years old. Does 2-3 washes a week. I think my neighbour has an LG and are happy with it. My tuppence worth.
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Beko 8kg front loader- went to that from a F&P 7.5kg top loader. Love it. So quiet, until the spin which tends to shake my weatherboard house a little at 1600rpm! Uses next to no powder, or power- 13c a load. Can fit heaps in, just gotta stuff it in and washing comes out clean. Oh, and it was cheap- new european brand opening up it's aussie market, so offering cheap. Got mine from a Bi-Rite store.
Have fun deciding. Kris.
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Had a LG front loader for eight years. Three service calls under extended warranty. Cabinet rusted like you wouldn't believe. Bought a Bosch front loader three years ago and couldn't be happier. Would never, ever go back to a top loader.
KB
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I know for sure a front loader uses less water and tends not to wreck your clothes. Putting the horse blanket in a front loader is not a good idea, LOL. We have a Maytag and nothing but praise for it. I would probably go the same again. Its probably 8 years old. Does 2-3 washes a week. I think my neighbour has an LG and are happy with it. My tuppence worth.
My horses get their own wooly winter coats so no worries of the horse blanket ending up in it.
Thanks to all who have replied so far sounds like people are happy they changed to a front loader.
Had a LG front loader for eight years. Three service calls under extended warranty. Cabinet rusted like you wouldn't believe. Bought a Bosch front loader three years ago and couldn't be happier. Would never, ever go back to a top loader.
KB
KB I wonder if they have rectified this in newer models friends of ours have had theirs for I guess about 2 years and I don't think they have had trouble, this is why I started the thread though as I don't know enough about the brands myself I do google search but you can only find so much where as on here I get real life people answers. We are on tank water here so water savings in washes is a big plus for me.
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If you can afford it. Go Miele front loader. Ours gets a ridiculous amount of use with 4 boys and hasn't missed a beat in 7 years. It costs more in the beginning but after a whirlpool exp disaster years ago I wanted a name I could trust. Miele has definitely been that.
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Meile gets my vote as well. Even washes dirty recovery geat when the boss is out>:D
GG
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I'm pretty sure I have the latest Choice washing machine test at home. Will scan it and PM you tonight.
KB
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I'm pretty sure I have the latest Choice washing machine test at home. Will scan it and PM you tonight.
KB
Thanks heaps KB that would be great after putting towels the wool underlay, doona cover, blanket and shortly sheets through multiple loads this morning I am honestly surprised this one is still going but it hasn't been washing well for a while now which isn't helped by the fact we have dogs inside and they leave there hair everywhere.
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Have had several frontloaders now. They use alot less water, the wife says they wash better but the do take alot longer to complete a wash cycle.
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I needed to buy a new machine a couple of years back I contacted some one I know in the business as to what brand and the prices I can knock them down to and I was told to steer clear of LG.... I don't like front end loaders as they look like tumble driers and if I one day had the chores of washing clothes i know i would put the clothes in the wrong machine so stuck to a top loaded and f&p as what was recomended
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i have got a kleenmaid/speedqueen washer(American made i believe) and have it for about 23years,last week i had to have its first service call cause it broke the belts that make it spin
The new models are essentially the same except for cosmetics,which to me says its near bulletproof.
When it stopped i considered buying another cheaper brand,front loader,top loader...but got it fixed for $250.
So in 23 years it has cost me $250 in repairs....show me a new washer LG,Westinhouse,Fisher & Paykal,that will last that long!!
http://www.speedqueensales.com.au (http://www.speedqueensales.com.au)
Im not a rep or affiliated in any way with them.just a very very satisfied customer
:cheers:
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We will be in the market for our third one soon, LG was painfully slow to do a wash
cycle and also rusted badly, the present one is a Technika. Was a cheapie and has been very well used in the last 6 years doing at least 1 mostly 2 loads every day, now looking for something that will replace it as it's got a small leak and goes out of balance badly sometime when spinning. But still working. lol
Have had several frontloaders now. They use alot less water, the wife says they wash better but the do take alot longer to complete a wash cycle.
If doing a small load there's nothing more frustrating than waiting 90mins, so
look for one with a quick wash or a sort cycle mode or similar.
I'm pretty sure I have the latest Choice washing machine test at home. Will scan it and PM you tonight.
KB
Please don't be shy with the test results. hehe
I would also be interested in reading the results if you'd be kind enough too share KB.
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We are in the same boat & currently looking at a new washing machine. We have decided to get a front loader but still trying to work out which one.
From our research so far I can tell you that it comes down to how much you want to spend. The German built machines (Miele, Siemens, Bosch 8kg & above models) are supposed to be better built than most other machines but at the same time your are looking at $1400 plus appox. Bosch 7.5kg or less models are either built in Thailand or China. Bosch are currently discontinuing their current machines & replacing them with new models, so prices on the new models will probably be more expensive than the run-outs
I think all machines with the exception of Siemens (5 years) have a 2 year warranty period - Samsung do have a 11 year warranty on the motor on some of their machines.
Like Mrs Smith said, watch the length of the cycle as some can be very long
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i have got a kleenmaid/speedqueen washer(American made i believe) and have it for about 23years,last week i had to have its first service call cause it broke the belts that make it spin
The new models are essentially the same except for cosmetics,which to me says its near bulletproof.
When it stopped i considered buying another cheaper brand,front loader,top loader...but got it fixed for $250.
So in 23 years it has cost me $250 in repairs....show me a new washer LG,Westinhouse,Fisher & Paykal,that will last that long!!
http://www.speedqueensales.com.au (http://www.speedqueensales.com.au)
Im not a rep or affiliated in any way with them.just a very very satisfied customer
:cheers:
yep had one for 20+ years and gave it away for a newer quitter Simpson. in 6 yrs its been replaced once and had 5 service calls. soon as I pull my finger out I will be getting another Speedqueen.
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Here's the Choice article for those that are interested
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yep had one for 20+ years and gave it away for a newer quitter Simpson. in 6 yrs its been replaced once and had 5 service calls. soon as I pull my finger out I will be getting another Speedqueen.
Maybe they arnt pretty enuff and dont have all the fancy buttons and crap,but for my money,i would get another one tomorrow :cup: :cup:
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Here's the Choice article for those that are interested
Thanks for that.
Seems the Samsung is there weapon of choice.
Maybe they arnt pretty enuff and dont have all the fancy buttons and crap,but for my money,i would get another one tomorrow :cup: :cup:
How much would someone expect to pay for a speedqueen FTSAO ? It's like some sort of secret
society trying to find a local melbourne price advertised, seems very little
in the way of advertised price's online or maybe I'm looking in the wrong spots. haha
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i have got a kleenmaid/speedqueen washer(American made i believe) and have it for about 23years,last week i had to have its first service call cause it broke the belts that make it spin
The new models are essentially the same except for cosmetics,which to me says its near bulletproof.
When it stopped i considered buying another cheaper brand,front loader,top loader...but got it fixed for $250.
So in 23 years it has cost me $250 in repairs....show me a new washer LG,Westinhouse,Fisher & Paykal,that will last that long!!
http://www.speedqueensales.com.au (http://www.speedqueensales.com.au)
Im not a rep or affiliated in any way with them.just a very very satisfied customer
:cheers:
we have a Speedqueen washing machine also, my brother fixes washing machines for a living and that's what he got, so that's what we got also. ours is a commercial size front load washing machine, not cheap to buy (well it was for us relatively speaking thanks to my brother and his contacts at work), but well worth the coin in the long run i reckon. my brother reckons todays household washing machines are nothing like they used to be, plastic cogs where they used to be metal, etc, etc....i know he's not a fan of LG in anyway. will likely see him tonight, if i can remember i'll see what he reccomends or atleast says to stay away from...lol
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Replaced my top loader this weekend after 27 years - got my money's worth. Did the research and bought another
top loader with an agitator. Didnt have one in the old machine but for first time in 27 years now have tangle free
clothes out of the machine.
Call me old fashioned but can't see how less water cleans clothes. Full loads take way too long up to 2 hours just to wash.
So we bought a Simpson 6 kg top load and are thrilled with it.
Good luck with your choice.
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Have had LG for a few years and happy enough with it. Might need to look for rust.
Every now and then it wanders across the floor and needs a slight adjust on the feet.
Front loaders take MUCH longer than top loaders
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I know it's a camping forum and this is my second not very camping question (at least the ereader could come camping) anyways our washing machine at home is on it's last legs and I will be looking at replacing it. I have heard great things about the LG front loader and am leaning towards this path as they are meant to be more water efficient and I have been told wash better. Can anyone shed any light on this pro's and con's of brands and front v's top I know everyone will like certain things about theirs. I do not often add to the wash after it has started and I think front loader so it is easier to put the dryer above it which will get a cupboard out of the laundry.
Thanks
Front loaders are the ducks guts.
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We purchased a Lg Front loader 6yrs ago & we will never have another LG product for as long as my bum points south. It was a $1200 machine at the time & for the warranty period it was a good machine except for moving around a bit on the spin cycle. The walking around got prgressively worse, repardless of how much you levelled the machine. It has now smashed the thread out of the adjusters & can't be levelled without packing it up with timber. We now can't spin it any faster than 400 rpm which is next to useless. Wifey is so disheartened with it she won't buy another front loader. I would have another one, but in a euro brand I think.
Cheers, Mike.
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We've recently replaced our washing machine. After much research, and knowing the longest warranty we could get to cover parts and labour or replacement was 5 years, we bought a Samsung 7.5 kg front loader and are very happy with it. First front loader we've had. Shortest cycle is 15 minutes. Longest is 2 hours and lots of options in between. We got a good price including extended warranty (replacement rather than repair). If it breaks after the warranty runs out we are unlikely to have it repaired but will replace it. We will have gotten our money's worth from it by then.
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Give me ten minutes whilst I go and ask the wifey
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Another lot of great information in these posts and glad to read it is helping others out who are also looking for a new machine. Maybe with our friends LG it has not started to show those signs of wear etc so I am glad that I posted. I cannot remember who posted about the brand from masters we don't have one here but can certainly get to one easy enough. I would be interested to see the price on the speedqueen ones as well. (is that what they were called)? If anyone else has any other info please keep posting and I will have a look at that choice info. Cheers
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Just asked my brother about Speedqueen prices, he said a top loader is about $1900 and a front loader he thinks is about $2500
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Just asked my brother about Speedqueen prices, he said a top loader is about $1900 and a front loader he thinks is about $2500
Thanks for finding out the prices Rumpig will have a look at a few prices and hopefully ours lasts at least a few more weeks.
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Do NOT buy F&P ... I got one 6 years ago and I HATE it. Eats ya clothes ... doesn't clean them properly ... the lint filter requires a complete pull down of the entire machine (yes the bowl, agitator, inserts and lid removal) ...
I'm going to get my old Westinghouse fixed and take this chunk o junk to the tip since I just got free tip vouchers. Might keep the bowl and use it as a backyard fire pit.
Kit_e
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Another thing to think about is the amount of room you have in laundry, if it is going in laundry, we have very small laundry with just enough room to move passed the washer, so with the front loaders all our research indicated that cause they are
watertight the door must be left open frequently to prevent mold developing on and inside the door seals.
We dont have enough room to leave the door open as it is a thoroughfare and would get in the way. Shop assistant advised that the seals needed to be wiped dry everytime the washer was finished.
So as said before, bought old fashioned top loader.
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We've always had front loaders.
Cant believe more people dont buy front loaders, (its pleasing to see some swaggers above have) as I think the old australian ways cant see how good they really are. My mum included who bought a new top loader as thats all shes ever had.
FL Uses far, far less water.
FL Better wash and better on clothes.
FL more energy efficient.
FL is convenient and under bench or dryer on top.
We've had seimens duo and now have a bosch washer only, practically the same machines. Ours are German made, not the Thai ones, though the thai ones are made under german guidance and am led to believe are very good also, I'd buy one of them also.
(we gave our seimens washer and dryer to my father in law when we moved, and bought new Bosch)
Weve used Bosch front loaders,(and dryers) on the villas and boats and they were running at least 14 hours a day, 7 days a week and never had an issue, we bought for our own appartment the same.
Can do a quick 15 minute wash, through to full washes etc. fast spin, clothes come out almost dry.
Wife loves it, I'm extremely happy with it and really, at teh price, wouldnt even bother looking at a top loader at all.
We'd only have upgraded to a Miele, but that was way out of our price range.
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Do NOT buy F&P ... I got one 6 years ago and I HATE it. Eats ya clothes ... doesn't clean them properly ... the lint filter requires a complete pull down of the entire machine (yes the bowl, agitator, inserts and lid removal) ...
I'm going to get my old Westinghouse fixed and take this chunk o junk to the tip since I just got free tip vouchers. Might keep the bowl and use it as a backyard fire pit.
Kit_e
Our F&P is no problems does about 4 loads a day but they do have a new design drive system
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Our direct drive LG front loader is about 7 years old now.
Looks and works as well now as it did when we got it.
More than happy with it.
Someday I will need to learn how to use it... I'm in no hurry though.
Bill
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We have had an LG front loader for a couple of years. First flint loader we have had and now wouldn't buy anything else.
'shakey'
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Front loader every time. As a pommie immigrant I was always used to a front loader under the kitchen bench and was surprised to see so many top loaders when I arrived in Australia - maybe they were demonstrating that they had bigger houses with separate laundries and didn't need to save space.
Currently we have a Miele which we've owned for about 8 years: before that I had a cheap Italian import that I bought in 1995 and carted Brisbane-Adelaide and back again without any problems. We love Miele products: they work and are reliable.
I agree completely with the advice to make sure you have a quick wash cycle available. We visited some friends in Italy this year and they had bought a Bosch which took 2 hours to wash anything - painful!
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Laundry? Laundry? Don't tell me, I remember seeing it somewhere. That's right it's downstairs near the doorway to my man cave!!
We had an LG top loader for 20 years until it finally died, bought another one - Happy Wife, Happy Life.
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Though we don't have a front loader, my parents do and are very happy with it, does a great wash but takes a long time as said. Not sure what brand it is. I occasionally take my son's work (diesel mechanic) clothes over for a 'really good clean'. Not that our Whirlpool top loader is no good, in fact very happy with it, there is just 'something' about the heavy clean of the front loader. When it's again time to replace ours, I will be weighing up between the two styles.
The only thing that concerns me with my parents front loader is the noise of it, at one stage during the wash cycle it seriously sounds like a plane preparing for take off!!! It is seriously loud! My workplace has one also, and same thing with the noise levels - again not sure about brand, maybe the same as my parents, but I'd ask about that before purchase.
Friends have a front loader with the dryer on top, it's a nice neat look, never heard it wash so not sure about noise levels.
Dee.
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Having read through this thread, I guess we are one of the few people left in this country who still hand wash, other than our blankets which we give to the kids to wash. Not being the most technological people (this laptop the only technology we own), I guess we should try to catch up, but not yet.
My daughter has a big machine that can wash blankets, and that is loaded from the top, and quite some time ago, we put underground pipes in, so the waste water went straight to the garden (weed patch now), I think her machine is an LG, but that is about all I can say about it.
Regards
Tjupurula
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Our normal wash cycle on our Bosch front loader is 50 minutes. We have several other options, one of which is a quick cycle of just 15 minutes.
In relation to leaving the door open, yes, it is advised to leave it open to dry the interior, but you don't need to leave it open permanently. We leave ours open for an hour or so after washing and then it gets closed. When open, it folds back and doesn't take up much extra room. No issues with mould on door seals.
As others have said, our LG also bounced all around the laundry when on spin. We could never seem to get it sitting right on our floor. And it was a direct drive which supposedly was smooth and quiet.
In relation to the LG rusting. This was only noticeable externally after about 4 years. But the two service calls prior to that, with the front & back of the machine off, the rust internally on the cabinet and components was shocking.
In relation to noise, our Bosch is pretty quiet compared to the jet engine in the previous LG. The dryer is more of a distraction than the washing machine.
KB
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Another vote for a Miele front loader. My work clothes are covered in dust and mud (mortar) and assorted other crap, which quickly destroyed 2 washing machines. Had the Miele 8kg front loader for several years now and can highly recommend it. Cant beat german engineering!
If you're in Melbourne, they have a factory seconds outlet at their office in knoxfield. Scratch and dent or discontinued stock with full warranties.
Their coffee machines are bloody good too ;D
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Just like to thank everyone that's contributed to this thread, it's been a great
read and a wealth of info so far.
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Another vote for a Miele front loader. My work clothes are covered in dust and mud (mortar) and assorted other crap, which quickly destroyed 2 washing machines. Had the Miele 8kg front loader for several years now and can highly recommend it. Cant beat german engineering!
If you're in Melbourne, they have a factory seconds outlet at their office in knoxfield. Scratch and dent or discontinued stock with full warranties.
Their coffee machines are bloody good too ;D
Thanks Matt we are not in Melb but can get down there if need be I will see if they have any info online.
Just like to thank everyone that's contributed to this thread, it's been a great
read and a wealth of info so far.
Hasn't it been great I did not expect to get so much info.
Having read through this thread, I guess we are one of the few people left in this country who still hand wash, other than our blankets which we give to the kids to wash. Not being the most technological people (this laptop the only technology we own), I guess we should try to catch up, but not yet.
My daughter has a big machine that can wash blankets, and that is loaded from the top, and quite some time ago, we put underground pipes in, so the waste water went straight to the garden (weed patch now), I think her machine is an LG, but that is about all I can say about it.
Regards
Tjupurula
Thanks for posting anyway it would be good if we could just hand wash everything but unfortunately don't get to with working and having bedding towels etc too. Good you give the kids the blankets to wash. :cup:
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Do I need to be the one to say it?
C'mon ladies, get ya s*** together!
I'm gonna have to go and take a shot of testosterone now ;)
Sent from the machine that goes..... Bing!
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In relation to the length of time, my everyday cycle takes 1:24m at 30deg. If it heats to 60deg (like it wants to, but I don't) it takes around 2h+. It's not that longer than my old F&P, but that probably has something to do with my tank supply. Yes there is a quick 14m cycle, I've used it once in 2mths.
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I'm gonna have to go and take a shot of testosterone now ;)
Go and polish your bar again :)
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Nothing wrong with old fashioned
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Nothing wrong with old fashioned
Ease up on the "old fashioned" comment there old fella, we actually still have one, and it does work, and yes, I know how to use it well.
Tjupurula
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Another feature you want is a "pause and add". When you start the washer the door locks, and I usually leave out the one item I was actually wanting to wash. I can press pause and a few minutes later the door will unlock allowing it to be put in. Some don't have this feature and you hav e to do a second load. ( hard enough to get me to do one)
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Miele front loader. Over 10 years old. We have 3 kids so it gets used daily. Never missed a beat.
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Thanks to all of you who replied the new machine arrived today it is still packed in the shed and we will set it all up on the weekend. Went with Bosch (german made model) with the help of people on this posts who have one and some google reviews. To the other poster's who are looking for a new one good luck on your search and I hope we have chosen well.
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I'm sure you'll like ti on first wash.
Which model did you get?
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I'm sure you'll like ti on first wash.
Which model did you get?
I am sure we will anything has to be better than the old one haha. It is way32540au
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Currently have an AEG Front loader, German built gear and good quality
Had a Maytag - American POS, overpriced and over rated, died after 5 years too.
Have owned 2 simpson machines, with 4 kids they both worked hard, but neither lasted more than 5 years.